Nowonmai
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How I would love that!
But then mayharp we are already soulmates.
Or do we have to wait for a thunderbolt to hit us?
You could also be my soulmate. You see, Time passing too fast and we (women) grow so quickly.
Asante sana Chief.Hongera sana mkuu. Nikitulia vizuri nitakuandalia orodha nzima.
Nami piaStarting “Outliers” by Malcolm Gladwell.
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For real, he had been my ever story tellerGrisham churns out some nice legal yarns. I read ‘The Firm’ some time in the mid 1990s and have been a fan ever since.
I apologize for my late response. Yes you can call me Paula.
The Gospel of John 19:25-26 ''Now there is stood by the cross of Jesus his Mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus Saw his mother and the disciple standing by, whom he loved..." So in this verse the beloved disciple was Mary Magdalene, she was among of the women mentioned to be there together with Jesus' mother and she was Single[emoji4]
"He lived with his students most of time" yes Mary also she was one of them.
Also the Gospels in the Holly Bible says, Mary was a Jesus follower and she traveled with Jesus as one of his followers. Mary was the witness to his crucifixion, buried and resurrection.
In the Non Colonial Gospel Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and they had kids. [emoji4][emoji4]Truthfully, I find this studies so interesting coz there are so many fascinating and mysterious like this.
Well the Idea that he married to Mary, erotic love, gay etc there is almost no information in the Bible. So it might be a conspiracy.
Sure, "there is so much in the world of books" .
Nowonmai, hivi tulifikia muafaka gani?Apologies accepted.
Thanks for this addendum Paula and lets keep on reading. You know the earlier book which raised controversy in the account of the life and times of Jesus was ‘The Last Temptation of Christ’ by Nikos Kazantzakis. I commend this as a must read on this subject if you have not read it before.
I have a feeling that The Da Vinci Code is not yet broken.
For real, he had been my ever story teller
Nowonmai, hivi tulifikia muafaka gani?
Nowmai, kuhusu paragraphs kadhaa za mwanzo I am glad you feel that way. I don't know why but Thanks anyway. Your compliment is greatly appreciated. I really feel happy.Paula, ni kweli hatukufikia hitimisho la mjadala kuhusu nadharia ya Yesu kuwa na mpenzi au watoto na kuwa uzao wake ungali hata leo hapa duniani.
Naomba sana uniwie radhi kwa hili.
Niungame na kukutaka radhi pia kuwa mara nyingi najikuta nikikufikiria wewe, Paula, zaidi hata ya mada tunazojadili.
Pengine hicho ndio kinachoitwa ubinadamu. Tafadhali samehe tu. Sina udhuru wa kutosha kwenye hili. Itoshe tu kama unaridhia tuwe, au tuendelee kuwa, soulmates.
Uzi wako wa wasomaji vitabu wa JF ulinivutia na kuninasa kama kwa ulimbo. Nimeshakuwa mwanachama wa book clubs lukuki. Nimeshiriki mijadala mingi sana ya vitabu lakini bado hamu yangu kubwa ni kufungua jf na kukuta wewe na washiriki wengine mme post kuhusu kitabu hiki na kile.
Naelewa kwa nini mchangiaji mmoja ame propose. Na mwingine akasema most of us feel the same way about you.
A great intellect is more attractive than physcal beauty. And you are endowed with both! I feel this deeply even now as I find myself straying away from the theme of your simple and direct question. Instead I find myself almost composing a teenager’s love letter! Forgive me again.
Now about the Master Teacher and Saviour of the world dear Paula, I have most of the time thought it prudent to live and let live.
I have a health respect for other people’s opinions and even more, for their faith.
The account of Jesus’ life and time is based on the christian bible. As a historic document this not so authentic. But the faith this document has inspired over time is without doubt stupendous. Throughout the age of bookprinting the bible has bested all other books in terms of sales and followers(I stand to be corrected in this though I think the argument will still stand)
That’s why I think that there is no productivity in bucking other people’s faith. Most, if not all of them woul just pass it off as profanity. Faith is blind and its one eyed kings are the priests, pastors, shiekhs(elders) or whatever titles they choose to go by.
That leaves you and me Paula.
As free intellectuals we can persue these questions without being hindered by the barriers of faith.
Did Jesus had a lover?
Was the lover Mary Magdelena?
Did they have issues(children)
Did these children, over the course of time, form a clan which endured up to the present time?
To answer these questions my dear, we need not only historic but also emperical evidences.
Let me just say that the books I have read on this theme have not conviced me much about the truth of a positve answer to the few and simple questions posed above. And out of fiction I ‘ve never heard of these Jesus clansmen in Egypt, Northen Ireland or anywhere else.
N B. I completely feel with you that it would have been delightful for us if the Lord Jesus,as a human(even though coated in divinity) could have fallen in love with beautiful and sinful Mary Magdelene, take her for a wife and give her children
But then that might not have rhymed with the plan of salvation which he came to execute. And definetely the love and fellowship he inspired would have suffered.
Now let me hear from you Paula.
And other bookworms too.
I know we cannot exactly conclude this matter but at least we can come to a compromise.
Nowmai, kuhusu paragraphs kadhaa za mwanzo I am glad you feel that way. I don't know why but Thanks anyway. Your compliment is greatly appreciated. I really feel happy.
I agree with you that the bible never says about all that. Ila kuhusu kuoa, kwenye Matthew 28:9-11 , Yesu alivokuwa anaongelea kuhusu mtu kumwacha mkewe (kum-talaka) wanafunzi wake wakamwambia "Mambo ya mtu na mkewe yakiwa hivo haifai kuoa".
Kwenye mstari wa 11 Yesu akawaambia "si wote wawezao kulipokea neno hili ila wale waliojaliwa" ikimaanisha sio kila mtu anaweza kuishi bila kuoa isipokuwa kwa wateule tuu.
Ambapo hapa wachambuzi wengi wanasema kwamba "waliojaliwa" aliokuwa anawazungumzia Yesu mmoja wapo ni Yesu mwenyewe kwa maana hiyo hakuoa.
Na kama hakuoa pia hakuwa na watoto.
Let's say the Idea that Jesus was a married man, had children etc, is made up. We can call them as conspiracy theories whith almost zero evidence.
Btw, that presentation was really good.
Why nation fail
Bring out the magic in your mind written by Al Qoran
Who will cry when you die by Robin Sharma
Nilipewa zawadi ya hicho kitabu why nations fail, siku moja niko na naibu katibu mkuu mmoja kwenye safari ya kikazi, akawa anatusimulia kuhusu hicho kitabu, kwa vile ni cha 2017 akawa anafikiri ni yeye tu amekisoma, nikamwambia nikitabu kizuri sana hata mimi nimekisoma akawa haamini nikamtolea issue zilizoko kwenye hichi kitabu, wacha atoe macho. Akanikubali kweli
Nimesoma 48 laws of power by Robert Greene na pia nimesoma 21 laws of leadership by John Maxwell, vyote ni vitabu vizuri mno vinavyoongelea power, however Rober Greene wa 48 laws of leadership ana emphasize kwenye tricks zaidi kuliko kwenye principles wakati John Maxwell anaongelea zaidi kuwa na principles1: Bible,
2: Before you do,
3: 48 laws of power,
4: Long Walk To Freedom,
5: Dreams From My Father.
6 ...........
By the way nimesoma alots of books kwenye kila nyanja biashara,siasa,dini the reason ni kuwa na uelewa wa mambo yote yanayofocus kwenye jamii na maisha ya kila siku vitabu nilivyosoma vinafika 200 na zaidi.
Quality counts more than quantity in reading books....unaweza soma kimoja chenye nondo kuliko kumi......just my thoughtsNimekuwa mvivu siku hizi,mwaka huu mpaka leo nimesoma vitabu 7 au 8 tu. Sasa hivi nasoma hiki
Reading is a habit, you can develop it if you want......I've never had passion for reading books, tried here n' there but it all ended in vain. Back in the days I'd enter a subway/metro, only to find out that I was the only one staring at people, everyone was busy reading something (during the IPad/bookreaders era), I tried really hard to go along but nah!
Reading is a passion, can't force!!
Hongera. Soma Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground. Naona uvivu kuandika juu ya hiki. Ila ni kizuri sana.