Citizen Tv ya Kenya yaomba msamaha kwa matumizi ya "Ukaidi wa Magufuli"

[Bantugbro]

Huyo mwanahabari wa Citizen ni mwongo mara ya kwanza na ni mwongo pia kwa mara ya pili, akubali tu kua alikosea lugha, vyombo vya habari vya Tanzania havina tabia ya katukana au kudharau viongozi wa nchi jirani, especially hapo EAC, ujirani mwema ni kitu muhimu sana.

Mwanahabari wa Citizen TV ndo kasema walitishiwa kufungiwa kupeperusha stesheni ya Citizen huko TZ, na wakapewa masharti yepi ambayo lazima wafanye ndo waruhusiwe TZ.
Alafu kwa hilo la ubebari hata usianze...... hayo ni mambo ya baadae kwasasa tupambane na corona

 

[Bantugbro]

Waarabu na Wahindi tupu.

Huko Kenya hali ndio mbaya zaidi ukiondoa a few corrupt politicians and their Kikuyu and Kalenjin sidekicks the rest are Indians as well as you correctly put..

The worst part is that ,the net worth of your richest person does not even amount to half networth of TZ 's richest person.

Here is a list of Rich Kenyans in 2020

1. Bhimji Depar Shah
2. Naushad Merali
3. Manu Chandaria
4. Chris Kirubi
5. Atul Shah
6. Uhuru Kenyatta
7. Peter Kahara Munga
8. S. K Macharia
9. The late Nicholas Biwott
10. Baloobhai Patel
11. James Mwangi
12. Raila Odinga
13. Moi & Family
14. Dr. Titus Naikuni
15. Bharat Thakrar
16. Mama Ngina Kenyatta
17. Jane Wanjiru Michuki
18. Prof. Joseph Wanjui
19. Duncan Ndegwa
20. Pradeep Paunrana

Source:
20 Richest People in Kenya 2020 • Urban Kenyans

 

[Geza Ulole]

Huko Kenya hali ndio mbaya zaidi ukiondoa a few corrupt politicians and their Kikuyu and Kalenjin sidekicks the rest are Indians as well as you correctly put..

The worst part is that ,the net worth of your richest person does not even amount to half networth of TZ 's richest person.

Here is a list of Rich Kenyans in 2020

1. Bhimji Depar Shah
2. Naushad Merali
3. Manu Chandaria
4. Chris Kirubi
5. Atul Shah
6. Uhuru Kenyatta
7. Peter Kahara Munga
8. S. K Macharia
9. The late Nicholas Biwott
10. Baloobhai Patel
11. James Mwangi
12. Raila Odinga
13. Moi & Family
14. Dr. Titus Naikuni
15. Bharat Thakrar
16. Mama Ngina Kenyatta
17. Jane Wanjiru Michuki
18. Prof. Joseph Wanjui
19. Duncan Ndegwa
20. Pradeep Paunrana

Source:
20 Richest People in Kenya 2020 • Urban Kenyans

Kuna mtu anaitwa Jimmy Wanjigi ambapo serikali iliopo iliundwa ndani ya choo cha nyumba yake!

Msikilize

 

[NairobiWalker]

Black people are despised because of our own infriority complex that leads us to do exactly what it is you are doing, belittling each other and always finding falt in each other. I know not any other reason

You're the ones belittling us by boasting how you have billionaires and we don't. I'm simply telling you the truth and you're finding it unpalatable. Nobody will respect black people if they continue boasting over Indian and Arab billionaires in their own countries while they've nothing to show for it.

 

[hydrogen]

You're the ones belittling us by boasting how you have billionaires and we don't. I'm simply telling you the truth and you're finding it unpalatable. Nobody will respect black people if they continue boasting over Indian and Arab billionaires in their own countries while they've nothing to show for it.

I didnt go into the details of your argument with whoever, I just called you out on one thing. Thats why I said read and re-read my comment

 

[NairobiWalker]

Huko Kenya hali ndio mbaya zaidi ukiondoa a few corrupt politicians and their Kikuyu and Kalenjin sidekicks the rest are Indians as well as you correctly put..

The worst part is that ,the net worth of your richest person does not even amount to half networth of TZ 's richest person.

Here is a list of Rich Kenyans in 2020

1. Bhimji Depar Shah
2. Naushad Merali
3. Manu Chandaria
4. Chris Kirubi
5. Atul Shah
6. Uhuru Kenyatta
7. Peter Kahara Munga
8. S. K Macharia
9. The late Nicholas Biwott
10. Baloobhai Patel
11. James Mwangi
12. Raila Odinga
13. Moi & Family
14. Dr. Titus Naikuni
15. Bharat Thakrar
16. Mama Ngina Kenyatta
17. Jane Wanjiru Michuki
18. Prof. Joseph Wanjui
19. Duncan Ndegwa
20. Pradeep Paunrana

Source:
20 Richest People in Kenya 2020 • Urban Kenyans

First of all, your list does not reflect what's in your link. Did you even read the whole article? The list you provided is not ranked. Read the whole article and you'll find this.....
1. Moi and family
2. Biwott and family
3. Mama ngina Kenyatta
4. bhimji Depar Shah
5. Naushad Merali
6. Uhuru Kenyatta
7. Chris Kirubi
8. Manu Chandaria
9. Atul Shah
10. Peter Munga

Number of blacks = 6
Number of Indians = 4

Meanwhile in Tanzania, here's the list.

Tanzania’s richest population: who are the 12 biggest earners in 2020?

1. Mohammed Dewji
2. Rostam Azizi
3. Said Bakhresa
4. Reginald Mengi (dead)
5. Ally Awadh
6. Shekhat Kanabar
7. Shubash Patel
8. Fida Husein Rashid
9. Yusuf Manji
10. Salim Turkey


Number of blacks = 1 and he's dead
Number of Indians = 9

Dude, as a Tanzanian black, you should be ashamed of yourself rather than boasting over these Indian billionaires you have.

 

[NairobiWalker]

I didnt go into the details of your argument with whoever, I just called you out on one thing. Thats why I said read and re-read my comment

Dude, re-reading your comment a million times doesn't change facts. Call on your brothers and tell them they sound stupid boasting over a few Indians exploiting poor Tanzanians and getting super rich over it.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Wewe huyo Chris Kirubi kasaidia nn kwa covid19 fight? Nimeona kanunua shares baada ya shares at NSE ku-collapse kutokana na janga la coronavirus! Humprey Kariuki je? Uhuru Kunyatta na Brookside dairy?

Stop shifting the goal posts and continue worshipping your Indian masters. You're the ones boasting over having billionaires, not me.

 

[hydrogen]

Dude, re-reading your comment a million times doesn't change facts. Call on your brothers and tell them they sound stupid boasting over a few Indians exploiting poor Tanzanians and getting super rich over it.

You are such a hypocrite!
First I assume you have proof of these exploitations.
Maybe if I should ask, when a business does good and makes someone rich do you say they've exploited poor people?
Now in Kenyas case, you see politicians like Kenyatta, Raila, Biwot, Moi.... people whove used their family's influence to amass their wealth but somehow genuine business tycoons gives you the worst itch?!

 

[NairobiWalker]

You are such a hypocrite!
First I assume you have proof of these explanations.
Maybe if I should ask, when a business does good and makes someone rich do you say they've exploited poor people?
Now in Kenyas case, you see politicians like Kenyatta, Raila, Biwot, Moi.... people whove used their family's influence to amass their wealth but somehow genuine business tycoons gives you the worst itch?!

Did you see me boast over Kenyatta and Moi and Raila being rich?

 

[hydrogen]

Did you see me boast over Kenyatta and Moi and Raila being rich?

C'mon....... when you do comparison and count them in your list then tell someone they should be ashamed, technically thats boasting. So please spare us the bullshit!

Number of blacks = 6
Number of Indians = 4

Meanwhile in Tanzania,

Number of blacks = 1 and he's dead
Number of Indians = 9

Dude, as a Tanzanian black, you should be ashamed of yourself rather than boasting over these Indian billionaires you have.

 

[NairobiWalker]

C'mon....... when you do comparison and count them in your list then tell someone they should be ashamed, technically thats boasting. So please spare us the bullshit!

I did the comparison in response to a post that was displaying false information. I didn't boast about anyone. Interestingly, it is your Tanzanian brothers who are boasting yet you haven't called a single one of them out but you're here on my case.

 

[hydrogen]

I did the comparison in response to a post that was displaying false information. I didn't boast about anyone. Interestingly, it is your Tanzanian brothers who are boasting yet you haven't called a single one of them out but you're here on my case.

You dont get it do you?
The problem was dismissing them as Indians even though they are Tanzanians saying they have exploited poor Tanzanians, so you brought your list of black kenyans for comparison which had indians aswell. Now if you notice, I never talked about your Indians, I only pointed out your black politicians.
Do you see where am going? If you don't you never will!

 

[NairobiWalker]

You dont get it do you?
The problem was dismissing them as Indians even though they are Tanzanians saying they have exploited poor Tanzanians, so you brought your list of black kenyans for comparison which had indians aswell. Now if you notice, I never talked about your Indians, I only pointed out your black politicians.
Do you see where am going? If you don't you never will!

Once again, it is stupid to boast over having rich people when the rich people come from a minority group that is not native to your country and has historically exploited your people. Learn sir, learn. You'll understand where I'm coming from someday. If the richest man in China was white, no self respecting Chinese would ever boast over him irrespective of his citizenship status. Africans like you need an awakening.

 

[hydrogen]

Once again, it is stupid to boast over having rich people when the rich people come from a minority group that is not native to your country and has historically exploited your people. Learn sir, learn. You'll understand where I'm coming from someday. If the richest man in China was white, no self respecting Chinese would ever boast over him irrespective of his citizenship status. Africans like you need an awakening.

Funny you should talk of awakening while boasting of rich politicians who've exploited their positions in everyway imaginable to amass great wealth yet dismiss genuine business people because of their race. Who needs awakening?! Remenber when we talked of africans being despised? You are partly why
"Come from a minority group?" Really?!
You really are Kenyan! Tribal to the core with a sense of entitlement, I could bet you are from a majority group. So in your world what is success pegged on? Do you mean success should not come to a minority group regardlessof how hard they work?
OMG you talked about awakening?!!!NairobiWalker My mind is blown

 

[NairobiWalker]

Funny you should talk of awakening while boasting of rich politicians who've exploited their positions in everyway imaginable to amass great wealth yet dismiss genuine business people because of their race. Who needs awakening?! Remenber when we talked of africans being despised? You are partly why
"Come from a minority group?" Really?!
You really are Kenyan! Tribal to the core with a sense of entitlement, I could bet you are from a majority group. So in your world what is success pegged on? Do you mean success should not come to a minority group regardlessof how hard they work?
OMG you talked about awakening?!!!NairobiWalker My mind is blown

Dude, I never boasted about rich politicians. Let's get that straight first before we continue. It is your countrymen boasting about having Indian billionaires yet you've managed to continuously ignore that while going on and on, on rants about boasting of rich people - cool off your frustrations on them.

..and stop twisting and misrepresenting my point - I didn't just say a minority group, I said "a minority group that is NOT NATIVE to your country and has HISTORICALLY EXPLOITED your people. Read that once more and let it sink."

 

[NairobiWalker]

It is interesting how Tanzanians who are always on our case on white people (who are Kenyan citizens) owning land in Kenya are now vehemently defending the fact that 11 out of 12 of their richest men are Indians on the grounds that those Indians hold Tanzanian citizenship and are even boasting about them.😂😂😂

 

[hydrogen]

Dude, I never boasted about rich politicians. Let's get that straight first before we continue. It is your countrymen boasting about having Indian billionaires yet you've managed to continuously ignore that while going on and on, on rants about boasting of rich people - cool off your frustrations on them.

..and stop twisting and misrepresenting my point - I didn't just say a minority group, I said "a minority group that is NOT NATIVE to your country and has HISTORICALLY EXPLOITED your people. Read that once more and let it sink."

Why would I have a problem with someone boasting? What would bother me is what you are boasting about.
Stop running from your thoughts. If I boast of my Toyota and you tell me its nothing then bring up your BMW. that can only be described in one word. boasting.
Minority group that is not native that historically exploited our people. Can you even hear yourself? This is neither here nor there. You make sound like we are discussing apartheid in south Africa, We are talking about specific people with names. Should we judge Dewji on what his ancestors allegedly did (though can't put a finger on it) such that he should not be successful no matter how hard he works?

 

[Kafrican]

Huyo mwanahabari wa Citizen ni mwongo mara ya kwanza na ni mwongo pia kwa mara ya pili, akubali tu kua alikosea lugha, vyombo vya habari vya Tanzania havina tabia ya katukana au kudharau viongozi wa nchi jirani, especially hapo EAC, ujirani mwema ni kitu muhimu sana.

Sasa atakuaje muongo na ni yeye ndo ameomba msamaha kwa niaba ya CitizenTV? Kwahivyo ukikana sababu alio toa basi itabidi ukane hilo ombi la msamaha pia.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Why would I have a problem with someone boasting? What would bother me is what you are boasting about.
Stop running from your thoughts. If I boast of my Toyota and you tell me its nothing then bring up your BMW. that can only be described in one word. boasting.
Minority group that is not native that historically exploited our people. Can you even hear yourself? This is neither here nor there. You make sound like we are discussing apartheid in south Africa, We are talking about specific people with names. Should we judge Dewji on what his ancestors allegedly did (though can't put a finger on it) such that he should not be successful no matter how hard he works?

You have a problem with someone who's not boasting for boasting yet you have absolutely no problem with somebody who's ACTUALLY boasting? Are you even listening to yourself?

Dude, read some history. During the colonial times, white people were at the helm as first class citizens, they made Indians second class citizens and Africans were treated a little better than monkeys. Due to that, Whites amassed a lot of wealth which they mostly sent back to Europe. Indians amassed some wealth which they kept while Africans remained poor. After independence, most of he whites left hence most wealth in the 3 major east African countries was in the hands of Indians from the mere fact of being accorded more privilege than Africans. At independence for instance, the whole CBD, Ngara and Eastleigh regions in Nairobi was owned by Indians - which was unfair to the Africans that initially inhabited the area. They owned most industries and Africans have been playing catch-up since then. There children inherited this wealth and that's why they're disproportionately wealthier which is not something to be proud of. Those Indians you boastfully list simply inherited their wealth from their fathers who profited from a system that privileged them at the expense of Africans. That's why I tell you, it's stupid to boast over those Indians for being wealthy.

Your comparison with Toyota is just stupid. It is perfectly cool to boast over your OWN Toyota but in your case, you're boasting over a Toyota owned by somebody else and this somebody else exploited you to buy the Toyota. It's like your uncle kills your father, steals his land and property from him, becomes rich and buys a Toyota and you go around boasting to people about it. That's the proper comparison. You can boast over your SGR or Kigamboni bridge but boasting over Mohammed Dewji is just stupid - the rest of the world will laugh at you and call you monkeys more if they find you doing that.

......and for the last time, nowhere did I boast about Kenya's rich men. I simply corrected somebody who made a wrong list of Kenya's richest men. If you continue insisting on the same in your next response I'll have to stop engaging you because we can't be wasting our time going round in circles forever.