Commentary Kuhusu Video ya Tundu Lissu Inayosambazwa

And what is that great answer of the day....In fact there is no answer of the day. Can somebody list not more than five people in the government of more than 500,000 civil servants and justify that there is tribalism in the government system?. Can somebody relate few individuals with VISA at the expense of the community?( Muslim, Christian and those without religion)

What is that great answer of the day?.....I do not wish to give any either ....but just to convince the good citizens who want development and stability to ignore him and the Part.
 
issa mweusi said:
Nothing you wrote rather than uccm,try to be more transparency and most of us will share instead of lift up your arrogant father and despising upinzan...watch out
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There is nothing to watch out really from your comments. Tundu Lisu has exposed all what is needed. Go back to the video clip.
 
Is magufuli a dictator and a despot or not if not which facts can u bringforth to justify his legitimacy!! In rwanda tutsis are just 5% but they are the decision makers of everythin so do u thino its numbers or POWER/INFLUENCE that matters!!!!! If you have 2 relatives in ur government but they have power over your decision making is it not enough to call a despot or until u have 3000 relatives???? Do u remember what happened to park geun-hye ??? Only one friend led to her downfall but they didnt say she just had one friend to advise her they looked at the impact and influence of the person not numbers so ur motion is obsolete

Numbers dont determine tribalism its the impact...... tribalism doesnt mean that 1 milion tribemates are in the government but rather thr can be only one tribemate but its the influence and power in the hands of that tribemate which will determine if the president is a tribalist or not

Great answers of the day means clear answers to the motions arise!!! Firstly is maguli a dictator??????
 
Mpaka dakika hii bado nazifuatilia siasa za nchi hii kwa sababu ya mtu mmoja tu..."Tundu Antipas Lissu". Nam appreciate mno huyu bwana.Amebarikiwa kiukweli.Hata nyie mnaojaribu kuleta unafiki katika hili naamini nafsi zenu zinawasuta.
 
Lumumbaz Siku zote ni idiot!mtu anakuja anandika uzi kizungu anajifanya kujua mambo kumbe ni hopeless kabisa...
Hivi utawala huu haoni kama hakuna fteedom of speech&expression,haoni ni jinsi gani katiba ya nchi inavyovunjwa?

Ova
 

"Firstly is maguli a dictator??????"

A question that may surprise everybody; and that why I do not have a great answer of the day

Elections were made based on a constitution and he took an oath to uphold ; and all parties participated. Citizen selected their leader(s) including member of parliament. CCM formed the government based on the mandate given by the people.

The president did not elect the parliamentarians and there are decisions made here-about that- dictatorship? We have the judicial system-from which the opposition and the ruling part has benefited from the decisions made- is that a dictatorship. We have the cabinet and several ministries and instruments are there on how things should go.

I addition we have the local government -where through their councilors-decisions are made (including several owned by the opposition!)

"Numbers dont determine tribalism its the impact"

And how lake zone was singled out-and not Lindi or Zanzibar-number 2? In fact you are negating what Lisus and CHADEMA) was trying to tell people, that numbers don't matter! THANK YOU

My expectation is that, the then renounced person like Tundu Lisu would come out with sections of the constitution what have been broken and how that relates to the issue of tribalism and religion sentiments.

You may continue quoting countries; but history needs to be known before making reference to other countries

I still conclude there were other Evil things were meant to be the outcome of Tundu Lisu address to the media and that is the basis of my thread.
 

Huna lengo.baada ya kupewa hela...upuuzi tu
 
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It is astonishing to see someone like Lissu saying that country is led by a dictator. Without providing legal evidence that this is true, who will believe you in the international community. He's a layer, why can't he find the true definition of dictator though the court. There courts in Tanzania, court in East Africa, even court in African. And funny enough, all those courts are based here in Tanzania.

It doesn't bring a good image when you're questioning about people related to president working in the sensitive government departments, while his own party [Chadema] has run very tribal succession of championship since its creation. From the founder to the brother in law, to the son in law.

The problem with Chadema is lack of party leader who has full authority to drive a positive agenda to the people. At the moment we're entertained with Mickey Mouse political tactics which will not results into anything concrete. In my opinion Lowassa is only grownup left in the building, the rest are just dancing around with small issues as if the country is not watching. Calling people names, some can't even hold back their tongues, others seems to enjoy to being lockup.
 

Your absolutely right sir.
 
Moderator Mhariri Paw Hizi thread za kumtuhumu au kauli za Lissu zimejaa mno hapa au mmelala ziunganisheni au trash them away.
 
The guy is trying to tell you guys to be objective, give JPM credit where he deserve and hammer him for his wrong doings! In other words be rational as he is a human being not an angel
 
Characteristics of a dictator, and they fit very well with dikteta uchwara Magufuli.

Common characteristics of world dictators

It was hard to tell whether Hugo Chavez rigged the Venezuela recall vote in his favor. But Coyote Blog’s "How to spot a dictator" post has a point. Click here.

For the record, a dictator guarantees none of the following:

Freedom of speech.
Freedom of the press.
Free opposition political parties.
Independent courts.
Free and regular elections.

Degrees of repression. Some dictators see themselves as a transition to democracy, but, in general, few eventually subject themselves to a free and fair election.

Some dictators allow limited freedom of expression, as long the expression -- written or spoken -- doesn’t directly challenge the dictator’s rule.

The restrictions vary. In some dictatorships, the people can call for free elections or criticize the dictator. In the more repressive tyrannies, such speech could be punished by imprisonment or worse. Under the most severe oppression, a society may appear calm, but only because the punishment for dissent is swift, harsh and certain.

Totalitarianism. Totalitarian dictatorships, the most repressive of regimes, strictly enforce the absence of freedom, and relentlessly apply the power of the press, the courts, the bureaucracy, the army and the police against individual liberties. Totalitarian means total dictatorial control.

Most totalitarian police states have some form of neighborhood block watches, requiring residents to inform on neighbors who exhibit any democratic tendencies. Secret police also watch for anti-dictatorship activity. Religions often are not permitted to operate without a government license; dictators fear that worshipers might plot against them during private religious activities. In totalitarian theocracies, one religion is central to the dictatorship, which relentlessly tells the people that oppression is God's will.

In totalitarian societies, gross abuses of human rights are common. Totalitarian dictatorships also tend to justify their abuses by claiming the total repression serves a higher cause, like material equality or superficial stability. Totalitarian dictators regularly educate both children and adults that freedom is a scary thing, or they redefine "freedom" as equality or stability. The arguments for totalitarian control become an "ideology," a system of principles that average citizens are never permitted to question.

No named successor. One oddly common trait among dictatorships: The dictator almost never has a named successor. Most democracies have something like a vice president, to take over if the president dies. Dictators don't want their opponents to know who would succeed them. The uncertainty discourages the opposition from assassinating the dictator. To the would-be assassin, the successor could be worse, or the chaos of choosing a successor too dangerous.

In dictatorships, the ruling political party either restricts the activities of opposition political parties or outlaws opposition parties altogether. (Each "party" simply is a group of people who agree on and organize around a collection of political ideas.) Dictatorships also allow the courts little or no independence; judges are expected to issue rulings based on what the dictator wants, even if the dictator's wishes contradict the truth or the law.

The same lack of openness and accountability makes dictatorships much more prone to mass murders of outcasts, political opponents and even people simply suspected of opposing the government. With no free elections, no strong opposition parties, no free press and no independent courts to challenge them, dictators can order mass death at their whim.

Link to famine. Some political scientists argue that the lack of openness and accountability of dictatorships also is a major cause of mass famine. Democracies occasionally experience hunger and malnutrition, but democracies seldom experience the kind of famine that lets hundreds of thousands or even millions die of starvation. A government that faces a free press and free elections is much more likely to produce quick action to avoid famine.

A dictatorship is more inclined to cover up famine and look the other way.

Hopeless oppression. The most common characteristic of a dictatorship: Hopelessness in the people -- no hope of a free election to change leaders, no hope of fairness in court, no hope of a life lived with the freedom to speak your mind or challenge a bad idea.

Yote haya niliyoweka rangi yanafanyika ndani ya hii serikali dhalimu ya dikteta uchwara ambayo sasa inashabihiana sana na iliyokuwa Serikali ya makaburu kule South Africa.

 

Umeongea ukweli ambao hatupendi kuusikia.Sijaona alichofanya Magufuli mpaka sasa.Miradi yote mtangulizi aliacha.

Alichofanya zaidi kutugawa kikanda na kiitikadi hili ndilo aliloweza kulifanya kwa 100%

Hongera kwa kyongea ukweli
 

Ni bora tuwe maskini lakini umoja,ubinadamu,undugu na amani yetu inadumu.

Hakuna maendeleo pasipokuwa na Haki na amani.

Mikutano yote ya hadhara ni halali kwa CCM na makada wake ni haramu kwa upinzani.

Bunge limefungwa mdomo na mikono amesema kwa kinywa chake na nukuu"Spika washughukike wote wanaonikosoa na kunipinga ndani ya Bunge,wakija huku nje nitawashughulikia"Huyu ndiye Rais unayempigia vigelegele.

Kwanza hauishi Bongo haujui kinachoendelea,endelea kukaa ughaibuni.

JPM naye ni wale wale waliolipiga Taifa sana,hana usafi wowote.Hakuna alichofanya kwa miaka miwili iliyopita tunaenda watatu.Miradi yote anayofungua ilitafutwa na mtangulizi wake.

Wakati mwingine msipongeze sababu tu mmeanua kupongeza

90% ya ajira ni kutoka kanda moja ya Ziwa,ndugu wa Katibu,marafiki,waliomsaidia kupata PhD,maana hatuna uhakika baada ya Ben kutoweka.

Tunahitaji Umoja,mshikamano na so ubaguzi,chuki na visasi.
 
Iliwachukua miaka 20 kumwelewa lissu juu ya ubovu wa mikataba na wizi kwenye madini......hata sasa kuna baadhi ya mambo mwendelee kudigest taratibu, baadaye mtaelewa. Si kila mtu anaelewa haraka, kuelewa ni process ambayo kwa wengine huchukua sekunde,....dakika,....saa,...au miaka!. Mkielewa mtarekebisha Kisha muanze kuhamasisha watu kuandamana kuwaunga mkono, chonde msisahau kuwa kuna walio andamana kitambo hivyo wasipo waunga mkono wakati huo msiwashangae kwani washatimiza "wajibu" wao.
(Si kweli kuwa Magufuli anakosea kila afanyalo)
(Si kweli kuwa Magufuli yu sahihi kwa kila afanyalo)
 
Yeah but the thing is, ulichofanya hapa ndio hicho hicho anachofanya Mh. Lissu, talking on the road side rather than in the legal house where it matter the most. Mtu yoyote anaweza kumwambia mwenzake wewe ni mwizi, muhuni, mjinga nk. But if that particular person decided to get clarification from the court that unayo mwambia kila siku ni kweli au la, na kama ni kweli uweke ushahidi utakao kubalika mahakamani ndio ufumbuzi wa tatizo upatikane once and for all. Hii ndio njia fupi Mh. Lissu alitakiwa apite, kuliko kulipuka na maneno mazito ambayo hayana ushaidi wa kuyabeba. Nchi kubwa kama marekani kabla ya kwenda vitani mfano Iraq, serikali iliomba ridhaa bungeni. Japo bunge lilikubali na kutoa baraka zake, kuna watu wengine walikwazwa na uamuzi huo, wakaenda mahakamani kuomba muongozo kuhusiana na swala hilo, sio mtaani, bali mahakamani.
 
Tuseme tusemavyo. Upinzani kazi yao kupinga.

Ukiwa mpole wanakuita dhaifu ukiwa mkali wanakuita dikteta.

Ukinunua ndege wanakuuliza pesa umetoa wapi, kama hukununua wanakuuliza pesa zinakwenda wapi hata ndege hatuna.

Ukiwaambia wacheni porojo tufanye kazi ya kuijenga nchi wanakwambia unaminya demokrasia na huwaruhusu kuongea, wakati huohuo wanakuita "dikteta uchwara" na bado wanapeta.

Akiwa msukuma kwenye nafasi yoyote serikali ni wana sema "mjomba" wake rais. Wakati huohuo kwao, wanarithishana mpaka uenyekiti kutoka mkwe kwa mkazia mwana. Bungeni mahala pekee kwenye fursa ya kuchaguana wamejaza mahawara zao, watoto zao, dada zao na wengine sijui ni michepuko tu.

Rais akisema hasomeshi watoto waliotiwa mimba, wao wanajulikana kabisa kuwa ni watoto wa mimba za utotoni zilizoridhiwa na mama zao (mababa wanakisiwa tu) ndio wa kwanza kusimama na kutukana.

Upinzani mmoja akiwa na mawazo tofauti na wasema hivyo na akitoa maoni yake au kusifu kidogo juhudi za serikali basi wale wasiofaidika nae humuita msaliti. Ikitokea mpinzani akaisifu serikali lakini wanafaidika nae basi huyo hukaliwa kimya hawanyanyui mdogo kumuita msaliti.

Tusiwalaumu sana ni uelewa wao tu finyu wa maana ya neno upinzani, au ni IQ?.

Wanazidi kunihakikishia utafiti ule wa mtu mweusi kuwa na IQ ndogo ni wa kweli.
 
Mahakama ipi unazungumzia wewe!? Hii mahakama ambayo kisheria ilistahili kumpa Lema dhamana asilale rumande hata kwa wiki lakini sheria ikapindwa na dikteta uchwara hivyo kunyimwa dhamana na kukaa rumande kwa zaidi ya miezi minne!?

 
kotelyimola said:
The guy is trying to tell you guys to be objective, give JPM credit where he deserve and hammer him for his wrong doings! In other words be rational as he is a human being not an angel
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Yes brother, Tundu Lisu is working hard to drive Tanzanians on Looking at negative things done by President Magufuli.
Lisu is ignoring all good things which are being implemented by The President.
He make us to see to it that, the political opponent of Chadema is no more CCM, but President Magufuli.
Magufuli have driven Chadema out of their political move, they have completely forgotten to advocate their political
policy.
They are no longer fighting for Warioba Constitution, Free Election Comittee and Better Social Service.
The plan for M4C, UKUTA, UKAWA, UFISADI and the like, are at the momment, placed in dust bin.
I see Chadema loosing direction on political arena, because of seeing Magufuli as a political party and not a human being who can make mistake.
If Magufuli is out of political game, (at the moment) what are we expecting to hear from Lisu and Chadema ?

CCM has no or opponent on their way to 2020.

Chadema is chasing Magufuli, CUF is chasing Lipumba.
ACT, Wazalendo is chasing Ana Mgwila

What an advantage.
 
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