Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

[Geza Ulole]

Yeah hii idea nzuri sana boss..ni kama bus station zinazofanya ..kuna plan ya kujenga kituo kingne Bunju na kingine Mbagala ..so as kupunguza kwa kile cha mbezi

Nmeipata point yako

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ndo efficient system inavyokuwa kama reli ya kwenda Arusha itajengwa SGR pia basi kuwe na kituo Bunju ikiunganishwa na mpango wa commuter train ya kutoka Bagamoyo kupitia Wazo inakuwa suluhisho then inapigwa ring moja toka Bunju kupitia Mloganzila kupitia Pugu Mkuranga mpaka Kigamboni na kuunganishwa na central! Pale central hata ujenge kituo kikubwa namna gani huwezi tatua msongamano! maana kila mtu atakuja pale!

 

[diamond d]

That moment when you think you make sense kumbe you are confused.... Huku Kwetu unaweza ku book SGR kwa kutumia USSD code ya *369#, pia unaweza ku book online na unatumiwa ticket number kwa simu... Lakini siku ya kusafiri kabla upande reli lazima uwe na "Bording pass" hio bording pass/ticket hakuna namna nyengine ya kuipata hadi wewe mwenyewe ujipeleke kwa ATM na uweke ticket number alafu ndo ina print boarding pass yako .

Kama huyu hapa unaona ana print ticket yake kwa hiyo ATM,

Kwahivyo upunguze ushamba, hata ukisafiri na ndege au hata na bus sikuhizi, unaweza book na ulipie ticketi yako mtandaoni, lakini siku ya kusafiri hauwezi ukaonyesha message uliyotumiwa kwa simu wakati wa kupanda ndege, lazima uwe na karatasi ya boarding pass... Unafikiri hio pass inapatwa wapi?

Mfano sisi kw Brt we serve more than 300000 per day and very automated service, asa nyie watu wanapanga foleni lote hilo wakati ingekuwa ni Brt kwenu wangepanga foleni mpaka jkia toka cbd the simple process hapo tutawafunza tukianza[emoji16]


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[babayao255]

hili linatokea Ethiopia kwavile Ethiopia haikuweka plan nzuri kuhusu umeme! Miradi yao ya HP yote imeshindwa kumalizika (stagnant)! Unavyoandika hapa kumbuka zaidi ya 70% ya vijiji Tanzania viko connected na umeme!
Toka mwaka 2015 kumejengwa major TL zisizopungua 5 across Tanzania! TL ya kutoka Kenya mpaka Zambia ipo U/C! Kuna miradi zaidi ya mitatu ya HP miwili kati ya Rwanda na Burundi na Tanzania na pia kati ya Uganda na Tanzania ukiacha wa JNHPP! Kinyerezi I and II tayari Kinyerezi I extension imekamilika! Kinyerezi III loading! Mtwara kuna project ya gas power plant!

FYI sasa hivi hamna power rationing Tanzania! Keep doubting, it is ur right as a Kenyan u r deliberately trying to be blind!

List of power stations in Tanzania - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For more information pitia hii link Comparison btn construction of Kimwarer dam and hydropower project and Nyerere dam in Rufiji Hydropower project

Connecting Power(s) in Kenya and Tanzania | GOPA Group

www.gopa-group.org

Mkumbushe pia kuwa viwanda vingi sasa hivi vinatumia gesi kujiendesha.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Mkumbushe pia kuwa viwanda vingi sasa hivi vinatumia gesi kujiendesha.

Huyu jamaa ni self denial the fact kwamba Tanzania itakuwa na electrical SGR kabla ya Kunyaland inamuuma na anachofanya ni kujaribu ku-discredit jitihada! japokuwa nyaya zinatandazwa bado anadai hakutakuwa na treni ya umeme! Sasa mtu kama huyu unamuacha siku kitu kinakuwa-launched unahakikisha halali kwa amani!

 

[Kifaru_07]

You exposed yourselves by posting long Queues, Sweaty Crowds & total confusion.
Its only shows that Quality of Service is very poor.
I have been at SGR station in the morning, Despite there being large waiting bays, no one sits there..its a waste, everyone is always standing in a long Queue waiting to be sniffed by a dog, getting his/her printed ticket (not paying as you wrongly put it payment is done be4 with mpesa) , or removing belts & earings at the poorly equiped scanning station.
Solve those problems stop defending mediocrity..NBO station can easily do away with 3/4 of its area..No one goes to a station to "enjoy" sitting his ass on hard metal chairs surrounded by smelly sweaty strangers. People want to board as quickly as possible & get to their destination

What confusion? Go through security, wait in waiting room, board when told, ushers everywhere guide.. Never seen any one confused. But big crowds are a good problem, more revenue.
Which waiting bay is outside the station? Because dog security checks are outside in car park on arrival and when you enter the building on your way upstairs to waiting area. Seems you really haven't been to this SGR station. What other type of scanner are you talking about that is more efficient and you are scanned while still holding your bag? Even in Dubai you remove your belt, we are unfortunately living next to a failed state carrying out terrorist attacks. If Tz is safe enough don't put scanners.
At what point did I say one pays for the ticket at the printing station? It's where you print the ticket using a code one received after paying via Mpesa at home.
This is a long distance train, not a commuter bus. Some people will arrive 2hrs early, others 15mins to departure. Those who arrive early will sit and wait as there is one train leaving, not a metro every 5mins that people can stand and wait.
Let those stations of Tz get finished then we see if you won't get these problems or even worse, early passengers sit outside on grass as there is no space in the building. We will see if you won't use metal waiting chairs, we will wait to see your sofas. Nairobi is always cool, mombasa waiting area has free air flow, Hot Dar and enclosed glass building, we will see who will sweat.

 

[Simon]

hili linatokea Ethiopia kwavile Ethiopia haikuweka plan nzuri kuhusu umeme! Miradi yao ya HP yote imeshindwa kumalizika (stagnant)! Unavyoandika hapa kumbuka zaidi ya 70% ya vijiji Tanzania viko connected na umeme!
Toka mwaka 2015 kumejengwa major TL zisizopungua 5 across Tanzania! TL ya kutoka Kenya mpaka Zambia ipo U/C! Kuna miradi zaidi ya mitatu ya HP miwili kati ya Rwanda na Burundi na Tanzania na pia kati ya Uganda na Tanzania ukiacha wa JNHPP! Kinyerezi I and II tayari Kinyerezi I extension imekamilika! Kinyerezi III loading! Mtwara kuna project ya gas power plant!

FYI sasa hivi hamna power rationing Tanzania! Keep doubting, it is ur right as a Kenyan u r deliberately trying to be blind!

List of power stations in Tanzania - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For more information pitia hii link Comparison btn construction of Kimwarer dam and hydropower project and Nyerere dam in Rufiji Hydropower project

Connecting Power(s) in Kenya and Tanzania | GOPA Group

www.gopa-group.org

huyu suala la umeme ndo kaingia anga zangu haswa!! [emoji23][emoji23].. source ya umeme wa SGR unatoka kinyerezi ninakofanya kazi .. afu ni bora ulivyomwambia kuwa power rationing/ power cuts in Tanzania haupo, si kama ilivyokuwa zaman

 

[Geza Ulole]

huyu suala la umeme ndo kaingia anga zangu haswa!! [emoji23][emoji23].. source ya umeme wa SGR unatoka kinyerezi ninakofanya kazi .. afu ni bora ulivyomwambia kuwa power rationing in Tanzania haupo, si kama ilivyokuwa zaman

Hebu mpe nondo za TL na power stations zinazojengwa around the country!

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

What confusion? Go through security, wait in waiting room, board when told, ushers everywhere guide.. Never seen any one confused. But big crowds are a good problem, more revenue.
Which waiting bay is outside the station? Because dog security checks are outside in car park on arrival and when you enter the building on your way upstairs to waiting area. Seems you really haven't been to this SGR station. What other type of scanner are you talking about that is more efficient and you are scanned while still holding your bag? Even in Dubai you remove your belt, we are unfortunately living next to a failed state carrying out terrorist attacks. If Tz is safe enough don't put scanners.
At what point did I say one pays for the ticket at the printing station? It's where you print the ticket using a code one received after paying via Mpesa at home.
This is a long distance train, not a commuter bus. Some people will arrive 2hrs early, others 15mins to departure. Those who arrive early will sit and wait as there is one train leaving, not a metro every 5mins that people can stand and wait.
Let those stations of Tz get finished then we see if you won't get these problems or even worse, early passengers sit outside on grass as there is no space in the building. We will see if you won't use metal waiting chairs, we will wait to see your sofas. Nairobi is always cool, mombasa waiting area has free air flow, Hot Dar and enclosed glass building, we will see who will sweat.

Wacha story ndefu..ambia mabwana zenu wa china warekebishe msongamano na foleni SGR..Ni jambo Rahisi sana ukiamua kutumia akili..Watu 2000 Ni idadi ndogo sana uwanja wa dar hujaa na masaa mawili watu 65k na wote wanaangaliwa hadi mabomu

 

[Kafrican]

Mfano sisi kw Brt we serve more than 300000 per day and very automated service, asa nyie watu wanapanga foleni lote hilo wakati ingekuwa ni Brt kwenu wangepanga foleni mpaka jkia toka cbd the simple process hapo tutawafunza tukianza[emoji16]


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Kadaanganye mama ntilie

Asubuhi na jioni watu wakienda/wakitoka kazini lazima kutakua na mirundiko ya watu, shida ni kwamba watanzania hamjui kupiga laini ili kurahisisha kazi, mtarundikana nyote kama kifurushi

 

[babayao255]

Huyu jamaa ni self denial the fact kwamba Tanzania itakuwa na electrical SGR kabla ya Kunyaland inamuuma na anachofanya ni kujaribu ku-discredit jitihada! japokuwa nyaya zinatandazwa bado anadai hakutakuwa na treni ya umeme! Sasa mtu kama huyu unamuacha siku kitu kinakuwa-launched unahakikisha halali kwa amani!

Huyo ni kumpotezea tu abaki na ujinga wake maana ndio kipaji chake.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Kadaanganye mama ntilie

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Asubuhi na jioni watu wakienda/wakitoka kazini lazima kutakua na mirundiko ya watu, shida ni kwamba watanzania hamjui kupiga laini ili kurahisisha kazi, mtarundikana nyote kama kifurushi

sababu inajulikana si ufinyu wa vituo bali hamna mabasi ya kutosha GoT inashughulikia

 

[Kafrican]

hili linatokea Ethiopia kwavile Ethiopia haikuweka plan nzuri kuhusu umeme! Miradi yao ya HP yote imeshindwa kumalizika (stagnant)! Unavyoandika hapa kumbuka zaidi ya 70% ya vijiji Tanzania viko connected na umeme!
Toka mwaka 2015 kumejengwa na kunajengwa major TL zisizopungua 5 across Tanzania! TL ya kutoka Kenya mpaka Zambia ipo U/C! Kuna miradi zaidi ya mitatu ya HP miwili kati ya Rwanda na Burundi na Tanzania na pia kati ya Uganda na Tanzania ukiacha wa JNHPP! Kinyerezi I and II tayari Kinyerezi I extension imekamilika! Kinyerezi III loading! Mtwara kuna project ya gas power plant!

FYI sasa hivi hamna power rationing Tanzania! Keep doubting, it is ur right as a Kenyan u r deliberately trying to be blind!

List of power stations in Tanzania - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For more information pitia hii link Comparison btn construction of Kimwarer dam and hydropower project and Nyerere dam in Rufiji Hydropower project

Connecting Power(s) in Kenya and Tanzania | GOPA Group

www.gopa-group.org

Hizo zote umeniandikia ni project ambazo hazija kamilika, ni sawa tu na muEthiopia aanze kusema wao wanajenga Grand Renaissance dam ya 6,000MW!!! Ama mimi nikelezee vile tuna explore visima vya geothermal ku produce 3000MW .. it doesn't mean sh!t
Mimi nimekwambia vile Ethiopia iko na umeme mwingi hadi inauzia Kenya 400MW na bado wako na blackouts... Kwahivyo hio inaonyesha shida si ukosefu wa umeme Shida iko kwa distribution kutoka kwa power plant hadi pale umeme unapohitajika......

Kwahivyo haufai kunipigia hadithi za vile mnajenga power plants nyingi au vile hamna power rationing siku hizi .... Hio si issue, unafaa kunipigia hadithi za vile stima hua haikatiki Tanzania... Manake kama stima hua ina katika kirahisi haswa kwa viwanda na kampuni za kibinafsi ambao hua sana sana wanasambaziwa umeme kwenye line spesheli za high voltage, hio inaashiria kwamba kuna tatizo kwa Upande wa Tanesco kusambaza umeme kwahivyo haitakua jambo la ajabu stima ikikatika kama uko juu ya SGR.

Lakini si ati nawaombea vibaya, kwamba stima ikatike kila mwezi.... ninachosema ni kwamba usikashifu reli ya Kenya na yenu haijaanza kufanya kazi.... manake kuna wengine kule Ethiopia hadi sasa wanapiga treni tatu za mizigo kwa siku miaka 3 baadaye. Kwahivyo usione magazeti ya Kenya yanakosoa KRC kila siku ukadhani eti kwenu operation zitakua nyweeee....

Kitu cha kwanza naweza kukwambia bure bila kulipwa... Kwasasa sijaona SGR ikijengwakuelekea portya DAR. Marshaling yard ya Dar iko 90km fromthe port. That means mzigo ukifika port most likely utapakiwa kwa MGR hadi marshaling yard, ukifika marshaling yard upakuliwe ndo upakiwe kwa SGR. Hapo tayari kutakua na changamoto zinawangojea..

 

[Geza Ulole]

Hizo zote umeniandikia ni project ambazo hazija kamilika, ni sawa tu na muEthiopia aanze kusema wao wanajenga Grand Renaissance dam ya 6,000MW!!! Ama mimi nikelezee vile tuna explore visima vya geothermal ku produce 3000MW .. it doesn't mean sh!t
Mimi nimekwambia vile Ethiopia iko na umeme mwingi hadi inauzia Kenya 400MW na bado wako na blackouts... Kwahivyo hio inaonyesha shida si ukosefu wa umeme Shida iko kwa distribution kutoka kwa power plant hadi pale umeme unapohitajika......

Kwahivyo haufai kunipigia hadithi za vile mnajenga power plants nyingi au vile hamna power rationing siku hizi .... Hio si issue, unafaa kunipigia hadithi za vile stima hua haikatiki Tanzania... Manake kama stima hua ina katika kirahisi haswa kwa viwanda na kampuni za kibinafsi ambao hua sana sana wanasambaziwa umeme kwenye line spesheli za high voltage, hio inaashiria kwamba kuna tatizo kwa Upande wa Tanesco kusambaza umeme kwahivyo haitakua jambo la ajabu stima ikikatika kama uko juu ya SGR.

Lakini si ati nawaombea vibaya, kwamba stima ikatike kila mwezi.... ninachosema ni kwamba usikashifu reli ya Kenya na yenu haijaanza kufanya kazi.... manake kuna wengine kule Ethiopia hadi sasa wanapiga treni tatu za mizigo kwa siku miaka 3 baadaye. Kwahivyo usione magazeti ya Kenya yanakosoa KRC kila siku ukadhani eti kwenu operation zitakua nyweeee....

Kitu cha kwanza naweza kukwambia bure bila kulipwa... Kwasasa sijaona SGR ikijengwakuelekea portya DAR. Marshaling yard ya Dar iko 90km fromthe port. That means mzigo ukifika port most likely utapakiwa kwa MGR hadi marshaling yard, ukifika marshaling yard upakuliwe ndo upakiwe kwa SGR. Hapo tayari kutakua na changamoto zinawangojea..

umeme wa SGR upo tayari!

 

[Kafrican]

sababu inajulikana si ufinyu wa vituo bali hamna mabasi ya kutosha GoT inashughulikia

Hapo wanasema wanatafuta operator mwengine ambaye ata 'Supply, operate and maintain" yani wanatafuta a whole new management kwasababu the last management company ilifilisika. So si guarantee kwamba hio new management itanunue extra buses... Wanaeza kusubiri kwanzakuangalia kama faida inaingia kabla kuamua kuwekeza zaidi

 

[Kafrican]

umeme wa SGR upo tayari!

kama nilivyosema, Ethiopia wako na umeme kuwashinda, shida si ukosefu wa umeme, shida iko kwenye usambzaji!!! SA iko na 40,000MW lakini bado wako na blackouts kibeo

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

Hizo zote umeniandikia ni project ambazo hazija kamilika, ni sawa tu na muEthiopia aanze kusema wao wanajenga Grand Renaissance dam ya 6,000MW!!! Ama mimi nikelezee vile tuna explore visima vya geothermal ku produce 3000MW .. it doesn't mean sh!t
Mimi nimekwambia vile Ethiopia iko na umeme mwingi hadi inauzia Kenya 400MW na bado wako na blackouts... Kwahivyo hio inaonyesha shida si ukosefu wa umeme Shida iko kwa distribution kutoka kwa power plant hadi pale umeme unapohitajika......

Kwahivyo haufai kunipigia hadithi za vile mnajenga power plants nyingi au vile hamna power rationing siku hizi .... Hio si issue, unafaa kunipigia hadithi za vile stima hua haikatiki Tanzania... Manake kama stima hua ina katika kirahisi haswa kwa viwanda na kampuni za kibinafsi ambao hua sana sana wanasambaziwa umeme kwenye line spesheli za high voltage, hio inaashiria kwamba kuna tatizo kwa Upande wa Tanesco kusambaza umeme kwahivyo haitakua jambo la ajabu stima ikikatika kama uko juu ya SGR.

Lakini si ati nawaombea vibaya, kwamba stima ikatike kila mwezi.... ninachosema ni kwamba usikashifu reli ya Kenya na yenu haijaanza kufanya kazi.... manake kuna wengine kule Ethiopia hadi sasa wanapiga treni tatu za mizigo kwa siku miaka 3 baadaye. Kwahivyo usione magazeti ya Kenya yanakosoa KRC kila siku ukadhani eti kwenu operation zitakua nyweeee....

Kitu cha kwanza naweza kukwambia bure bila kulipwa... Kwasasa sijaona SGR ikijengwakuelekea portya DAR. Marshaling yard ya Dar iko 90km fromthe port. That means mzigo ukifika port most likely utapakiwa kwa MGR hadi marshaling yard, ukifika marshaling yard upakuliwe ndo upakiwe kwa SGR. Hapo tayari kutakua na changamoto zinawangojea..

SGR Reli inaenda hadi port ndani kama tu MGR / Tazara..Posta hadi Port sio 90KM peleka propaganda zako mbali

 

[Kifaru_07]

Mfano sisi kw Brt we serve more than 300000 per day and very automated service, asa nyie watu wanapanga foleni lote hilo wakati ingekuwa ni Brt kwenu wangepanga foleni mpaka jkia toka cbd the simple process hapo tutawafunza tukianza[emoji16]


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Wewe unaona unafikiria vizuri ukilinganisha BRT an long distance, 2 times a day train service? Boarding pass inaitajika kuonyesha class, seat number and destination station. Nyinyi hufanya booking ya brt?

 

[Kafrican]

SGR Reli inaenda hadi port ndani kama tu MGR / Tazara..Posta hadi Port sio 90KM peleka propaganda zako mbali

Ushahidi uko wapi?

Marshaling yard ya SGR iko 90kf from Dar port!

 

[Geza Ulole]

kama nilivyosema, Ethiopia wako na umeme kuwashinda, shida si ukosefu wa umeme, shida iko kwenye usambzaji!!! SA iko na 40,000MW lakini bado wako na blackouts kibeo

Simon jibu hili mbwigambwiga!

 

[Kafrican]

Cleaning Crew Nairobi