Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

These people are in love with our sgr line, once kadoda also claimed that these railways are in Tz. Sasa leo pia mwingine amechukua picha za Nairobi national park railway na ile ya Duka mbili anadanganya Nazi wenzake ati ni za Tz. In this screenshot there is only one photo showing Tz railway which is of low quality.
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Wakenya Msipotezeee ooh low quality Tunajua Mmepigwa hiyo SGR yenu na bado Hela ya ku electrify, so msizuge kabisaa halafu kingine Reli zetu hazibebi Dunia mjue so tusizinguane. Ethiopia wanapiga kazi muwaache.
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Geza Ulole said:
Utofauti upo, mbali ya SGR ya Kenya kutokuwa na electric poles haina double drainage system kama yetu pia yetu itawekwa another layer ya kokoto!
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...pia SGR ya TZ itakua ni continuous welded rail, hakutakua na gaps between mataruma hivyo basi ukiwa ndani ya train inaposafiri hauwezi kusikia sauti ya mataruma ya reli yanavyogonga as the wheels traverse the line.... Hiyo ya jirani haijawa welded kwanza hilo ukiwa ndani ya train wakati ikitembea utasikia kale ka-knock knock sound....
 
Bantugbro said:
...pia SGR ya TZ itakua ni continuous welded rail, hakutakua na gaps between mataruma hivyo basi ukiwa ndani ya train inaposafiri hauwezi kusikia sauti ya mataruma ya reli yanavyogonga as the wheels traverse the line.... Hiyo ya jirani haijawa welded kwanza hilo ukiwa ndani ya train wakati ikitembea utasikia kale ka-knock knock sound....
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Kitu matata cha electrical SGR!
 
When did all economist meet and complain about it. Don't conflate some western economist fearful of China rise with all economist. The same western gov including US of A are choking with Chinese loans themselves.Africa has developed the last 15yrs thanks to Chinese. China are giving Africa lots of low or zero interest loan if not grants. China is trying to avoid the middle class trap and is awash with cash it doesn't want going into their economy - so there is huge opportunity to grab the chinese money and invest it.

Mombasa port collateral propaganda has no legs. What KPA committed was to give 40% of cargo to SGR. That is a small price to pay for someone who is willing to fund your rail with 10B dollars.

Why Tanzania chose to go for a commercial bank loan is not comprehensible to me. It probably because China were never going to finance another white elephant - after TAZARA. The rail to Morogoro to Mwanza doesn't make economic sense...will not meet it's operational cost. There is simply no cargo to transport unless TZ was to get Uganda to commit to transport all it cargo through it.

Geza Ulole said:
Then why are all economists complaining about the loan u took?
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And why they immediately wants to hold your assets, unlike other sources loans like Mombasa port, etc
Stano said:
When did all economist meet and complain about it. Don't conflate some western economist fearful of China rise with all economist. The same western gov including US of A are choking with Chinese loans themselves.Africa has developed the last 15yrs thanks to Chinese. China are giving Africa lots of low or zero interest loan if not grants. China is trying to avoid the middle class trap and is awash with cash it doesn't want going into their economy - so there is huge opportunity to grab the chinese money and invest it.

Mombasa port collateral propaganda has no legs. What KPA committed was to give 40% of cargo to SGR. That is a small price to pay for someone who is willing to fund your rail with 10B dollars.

Why Tanzania chose to go for a commercial bank loan is not comprehensible to me. It probably because China were never going to finance another white elephant - after TAZARA. The rail to Morogoro to Mwanza doesn't make economic sense...will not meet it's operational cost. There is simply no cargo to transport unless TZ was to get Uganda to commit to transport all it cargo through it.
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Janerose mzalendo said:
Hahaha [emoji23] mshenzi mwingine kaileta humu akidai kwamba wameshaikamilisha tayari.Hakujua kwamba ni ya Kenya. Kwanza viaduct ni noma.Wanaipenda bila kujua ni ya Kenya
thisdayes say something bro![emoji16]
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Nyie mnajibamba tu! halafu sijapenda ulivyo niita bro au kuna kitu unataka kuninyima [emoji15]! Anyways i mic you too my sweet Janerose

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Chinese are clever my friends, do you know BRICS study it and see why that? And its competition to G7 countries
Stano said:
When did all economist meet and complain about it. Don't conflate some western economist fearful of China rise with all economist. The same western gov including US of A are choking with Chinese loans themselves.Africa has developed the last 15yrs thanks to Chinese. China are giving Africa lots of low or zero interest loan if not grants. China is trying to avoid the middle class trap and is awash with cash it doesn't want going into their economy - so there is huge opportunity to grab the chinese money and invest it.

Mombasa port collateral propaganda has no legs. What KPA committed was to give 40% of cargo to SGR. That is a small price to pay for someone who is willing to fund your rail with 10B dollars.

Why Tanzania chose to go for a commercial bank loan is not comprehensible to me. It probably because China were never going to finance another white elephant - after TAZARA. The rail to Morogoro to Mwanza doesn't make economic sense...will not meet it's operational cost. There is simply no cargo to transport unless TZ was to get Uganda to commit to transport all it cargo through it.
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Kafrican said:
I reckon phase 2A is about 85-90% done
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Ballast(kokoto) bieng transported towards Naivasha, this is after the initial successful testing of the track happened last week..
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Hongereni sana ila hicho kichwa cha tren ni toleo lenu la sasa au ni ya zamani imenichanganya
 
Teargass said:
These people are in love with our sgr line, once kadoda also claimed that these railways are in Tz. Sasa leo pia mwingine amechukua picha za Nairobi national park railway na ile ya Duka mbili anadanganya Nazi wenzake ati ni za Tz. In this screenshot there is only one photo showing Tz railway which is of low quality.View attachment 1000660

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TZ's AREMA is equivalent to Chinese Class B(II) which is cheaper to build but more expensive maintain.Railways are very expensive to build, maintain and run. That is why the European built rails around Africa are all now decrepit. African gov couldn't afford to maintain them. They went into state of desrepair.
Janerose mzalendo said:
😂😂😂😂bro! Hatujibambi. Actually, SGR ya Kenya inapendeza ndio maana hii ni mara ya pili kuona mtz akidai kwamba ni yao.
So the Turkish firm is building a low quality rail at a low cost.Mta~repair hadi mchoke.
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Stano said:
TZ's AREMA is equivalent to Chinese Class B(II) which is cheaper to build but more expensive maintain.Railways are very expensive to build, maintain and run. That is why the European built rails around Africa are all now decrepit. African gov couldn't afford to maintain them. They went into state of desrepair.
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Evidence?
 
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