Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

[Kafrican]

Picha za kitambo hizo

Sh2bn faulty SGR cranes lie idle

Each of the Chinese cranes cost Sh355 million, a figure that has raised questions.

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Asante sana kwa kuleeta taarifa yenyewe unaona inaelezea vizuri kabisa

“The cranes will be replaced by CRBC. We had a meeting with them on Thursday and that was the agreement. The first two cranes are expected to be replaced in the next few weeks. I am made to understand that their shipment has already started. Eventually, we shall get new replacements for the six,” Mr Macharia told Sunday Nation.
The situation has now forced Kenya Ports Authority (KPA) to move in and use its cranes to perform the tasks that CRBC was supposed to have done, depending on eight rubber-tyred gantry cranes to assist in loading, offloading and movement of containers around the yard. The port agency has also distanced its self from the non-functioning cranes, saying they are just a host of the CRBC and KRC. KPA said its six Rail Mounted Gantry (RMG) Cranes manufactured in China by ZPMC Ltd are working.
“We have an RMG station with the six cranes providing loading zones namely lines Z4, Z7, Z8, Z9 and Z10, whereby Z4 and Z9 are dedicated for loading of dangerous cargo on SGR. From these loading zones, the cranes are used to load the bloc trains. Without these six RMGs at the loading zones, then we would not be able to attain our daily target of 10-12 trains,” Mr Bernard Osero, KPA Head of Corporate Affairs, said. https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Puzzl...t-Mombasa-port/1056-5121644-iws9cb/index.html




--------- Hiyo picha niliyo post ya gantry crane ni ya hii wiki, povu lingi linakumaliza , once again, crane za blue ni za KPA, za red ndo za CRBC

 

[Kafrican]

Ego gani? Enda leo uone 95% of workers building Tz SGR are locals..kenya hadi burura wa kufagia ni mchina

Ego ya kuniambia hakuna foreigner ataendesha commercial treni ndani ya Tz.....

Two years on? 😆😆😆😆 ATCL had pilots even before A220 and 787 arrived

There is a reason why up to now ATCL cannot fly outside the continent!

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

Asante sana kwa kuleeta taarifa yenyewe unaona inaelezea vizuri kabisa

“The cranes will be replaced by CRBC. We had a meeting with them on Thursday and that was the agreement. The first two cranes are expected to be replaced in the next few weeks. I am made to understand that their shipment has already started. Eventually, we shall get new replacements for the six,” Mr Macharia told Sunday Nation.
The situation has now forced Kenya Ports Authority (KPA) to move in and use its cranes to perform the tasks that CRBC was supposed to have done, depending on eight rubber-tyred gantry cranes to assist in loading, offloading and movement of containers around the yard. The port agency has also distanced its self from the non-functioning cranes, saying they are just a host of the CRBC and KRC. KPA said its six Rail Mounted Gantry (RMG) Cranes manufactured in China by ZPMC Ltd are working.
“We have an RMG station with the six cranes providing loading zones namely lines Z4, Z7, Z8, Z9 and Z10, whereby Z4 and Z9 are dedicated for loading of dangerous cargo on SGR. From these loading zones, the cranes are used to load the bloc trains. Without these six RMGs at the loading zones, then we would not be able to attain our daily target of 10-12 trains,” Mr Bernard Osero, KPA Head of Corporate Affairs, said. https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Puzzl...t-Mombasa-port/1056-5121644-iws9cb/index.html




--------- Hiyo picha niliyo post ya gantry crane ni ya hii wiki, povu lingi linakumaliza , once again, crane za blue ni za KPA, za red ndo za CRBC

The cranes are not working..chinese brought their 1840 cranes to kenya dumpsite at 2bn cost

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

Ego ya kuniambia hakuna foreigner ataendesha commercial treni ndani ya Tz.....

There is a reason why up to now ATCL cannot fly outside the continent!

No commercial trips will be done by foreigners
Ofcourse, ATCL cant fly outside the continent because it was a halfdead airline with no IATA certs..But the trip from seattle washington to dar was done by Tz born pilots

 

[Kafrican]

The cranes are not working..chinese brought their 1840 cranes to kenya dumpsite at 2bn cost

Yes, if you close your eyes and repeat those words 7 more times they will become true, despite the fact/evidence showing otherwise.

 

[Kafrican]

No commercial trips will be done by foreigners
Ofcourse, ATCL cant fly outside the continent because it was a halfdead airline with no IATA certs..But the trip from seattle washington to dar was done by Tz born pilots

After undergoing vigorous training from the Boeing HQ in seattle..... this was even before the pilots were already experienced flying other aircraft before.

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

After undergoing vigorous training from the Boeing HQ in seattle..... this was even before the pilots were already experienced flying other aircraft before.

As you can see, Tz wanajua kujipanga sio eti 2 years when you have acquired an asset( plane/train) no one is qualified to operate it

 

[Kafrican]

As you can see, Tz wanajua kujipanga sio eti 2 years when you have acquired an asset( plane/train) no one is qualified to operate it

Boeing hawawezi wakakupatia ndege kabla hawaja approve pilots watakaoendesha hio ndege, wacha kushobokea vitu vya kipuzi! The only way you leave with a plane from Washington is if your pilots have been certified by Boeing. they also have to certify your engineers to make sure they can conduct regular maintenance.

 

[Ummayed]

Do you have a manufacturing industry of automotive.ww mwenyewe una assembly industry kuwa na manufacturing industry ndio nikuone kidume

Ever heard of Dar Coach?


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[Ummayed]

I also saw that.....from the few photos I have seen.....TZ SGR is of very poor quality that's why they always use Kenyan SGR pics to caption their articles

Is that of.poor quality

 

[BILLY ISISWE]

Boeing hawawezi wakakupatia ndege kabla hawaja approve pilots watakaoendesha hio ndege, wacha kushobokea vitu vya kipuzi! The only way you leave with a plane from Washington is if your pilots have been certified by Boeing. they also have to certify your engineers to make sure they can conduct regular maintenance.

Marubani wengine ni Wajeda

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

Boeing hawawezi wakakupatia ndege kabla hawaja approve pilots watakaoendesha hio ndege, wacha kushobokea vitu vya kipuzi! The only way you leave with a plane from Washington is if your pilots have been certified by Boeing. they also have to certify your engineers to make sure they can conduct regular maintenance.

Yes delivery flight was done by Tz pilots certified by boeing. The only flight that was done by foreigners was the A220, But now even those very unique and only type in africa are now under Tz pilots

 

[Ummayed]

Anytime theAnytime they write an article about their SGR ni lazima watumie picha za Kenya.

Mbona nyie mlitupia pic za kigamboni bridge na kusema ya kwenu ilhali ipo tz
Haya nambie hapo km magufuli alikuja kenya

 

[Ummayed]

Hii tunaita tanguliza toto baba anakuja

Sgr ya kenya still bado unaleta hasara hata kuitumia kimanufaa hamjaweza asa wait itimie ya tz

 

[Mr. MTUI]

Si umejionea mwenyewe kwa picha ikipakia mizigo??? they say a picture is woth 1000 words......

Anyway, Ambazo hazifanyi kazi ni zile za rangi nyekundu zilizoletwa na CRBC for KRC, hizo za blue ni za Kenya Ports ndo zinafanya kazi kwa sasa

Hizi za blue ni za KPA
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Wakenya mtapigwa hadi lini..

 

[Ummayed]

Kwan waliozi fly walikua wazungu si Tz ones wale wenye sifa zao

Boeing hawawezi wakakupatia ndege kabla hawaja approve pilots watakaoendesha hio ndege, wacha kushobokea vitu vya kipuzi! The only way you leave with a plane from Washington is if your pilots have been certified by Boeing. they also have to certify your engineers to make sure they can conduct regular maintenance.

 

[Ummayed]

We unachekesha wakati huo ww wafanya hyo training.
Sio muda mrefu ukitaka kujenga phase three ya sgr yako utakuja kwangu kununua mataluma ya reli nimeshaanza kuyatengeneza pale soga asa hapo sijui nan kajiwekeza zaid

Out of the 15 Drivers who took the Locomotive driver qualification exam 11 of them passed while 4 failed the exam

The pictures quoted above were for Theory exam, the pictures below are for practicle exam..... For the last two years these candidates have been assistance locomotive drivers working under the supervision of the Chinese, Those who passed will now graduate to principal drivers who will be fully in-charge without supervision.


Practical exam

 

[Ummayed]

Una akili timam wakat huo ujenzi wa sgr unafanywa na watz pia watz ndio wanatengeneza mataluma na kufanya ujenzi wa sgr na ma engineer wa yapi merkez ilahli ww hadi mchanganya kokoto ktk ujenz wa sgr yako alikua mchina.
Kwa hapo tushawapiga bao kwanza mataluma ya reli hatutoi nje tunatengeneza wenyewe soga ilhal ww ulikua unatoa nje.
Pili tuna watz ambao wanafanya kaz sambamba ktk ujenz wa hii reli it means kuna watu tunao wana ujuzi ktk utengenezaji wa sgr.
Na kuna watu kumi wameteuliwa na rais wakasomee kuhusu uendeshaji wa sgr kiujumla sio udereva tu km nyie mlivyofikiria pafupi

I also saw that.....from the few photos I have seen.....TZ SGR is of very poor quality that's why they always use Kenyan SGR pics to caption their articles

 

[Kafrican]

Yes delivery flight was done by Tz pilots certified by boeing. The only flight that was done by foreigners was the A220, But now even those very unique and only type in africa are now under Tz pilots

I don't really care who flew what or when... My point is, in-order to fly those planes those pilots, especially the captain must have alteast 10-15 years of being a pilot...
Even our SGR drivers have to first have a diploma+experience or a degree in rail engineering or mechanical, electrical engineering to then study to be a loco driver, some of these drivers went to study rail engineering in Beijing first before coming back to Kenya as assistance locomotive driver

 

[Ummayed]

Tz wana hao watu kitambo tuu wanasubiri utendaji kaz reli ikikamilika

I don't really care who flew what or when... My point is, in-order to fly those planes those pilots, especially the captain must have alteast 10-15 years of being a pilot...
Even our SGR drivers have to first have a diploma+experience or a degree in rail engineering or mechanical, electrical engineering to then study to be a loco driver, some of these drivers went to study rail engineering in Beijing first before coming back to Kenya as assistance locomotive driver