Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

Kafrican said:
Unaona vile hizo stesheni hata bila vioo unajua tu hio design si ya kawaida kabisa...

Lakini kando na hapo uwache kulinganisha vitu ambavyo havilinganishwi!!! .... Kila project inajengwa kulingana na pesa zilizo tolewa, ni kama mimi niende niokote projects kali kali za CCCC zilizojengwa huko nje kana kwamba hivyo ndo watajenga huku kwasababu ni kampuni ile ile.

Qatar Intergrated Rail Project ni project ya $36B (Yani nusu ya Tz GDP), naitakua na urefu wa 300km ikiwemo 30km ya tunnels..

Gold line metro ambayo ni sehemu moja ya hio Qatar integrated metro rail ni project inayofanywa na consotium tano
i.e Gold Line metro project was awarded to a global consortium (Joint Venture Company) consisting of five companies. Aktor S.A from Greece, Larsen & Toubro LTD from India, Yapi Merkezi from Turkey, STFA also from Turkey and Al Jaber Engineering from Qatar.
Hizo kampuni mbili za uturuki zinamiliki jumla ya 40% ya ujenzi wa hio Gold line......

Hio Gold Line ni 32km pekee lakini garama yake ni $4.4 Billion USD !!!!!!! NI mwendawazimu pekee ambaye ataketi chini ya mnazi akifikiria project ya light rail iliojengwa kutumia $4.4B kwa 32km itakua sawa na project yao heavy rail ya Dar-moro iliojengwaa kwa chini ya $2B kwa reli ya 300km.
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[emoji23][emoji23] wapige tu na facts. Sisi hatukai vijiweni kupiga umbea, tunapambana na reality ilivyo.

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Kafrican said:
Unaona vile hizo stesheni hata bila vioo unajua tu hio design si ya kawaida kabisa...

Lakini kando na hapo uwache kulinganisha vitu ambavyo havilinganishwi!!! .... Kila project inajengwa kulingana na pesa zilizo tolewa, ni kama mimi niende niokote projects kali kali za CCCC zilizojengwa huko nje kana kwamba hivyo ndo watajenga huku kwasababu ni kampuni ile ile.

Qatar Intergrated Rail Project ni project ya $36B (Yani nusu ya Tz GDP), naitakua na urefu wa 300km ikiwemo 30km ya tunnels..

Gold line metro ambayo ni sehemu moja ya hio Qatar integrated metro rail ni project inayofanywa na consotium tano
i.e Gold Line metro project was awarded to a global consortium (Joint Venture Company) consisting of five companies. Aktor S.A from Greece, Larsen & Toubro LTD from India, Yapi Merkezi from Turkey, STFA also from Turkey and Al Jaber Engineering from Qatar.
Hizo kampuni mbili za uturuki zinamiliki jumla ya 40% ya ujenzi wa hio Gold line......

Hio Gold Line ni 32km pekee lakini garama yake ni $4.4 Billion USD !!!!!!! NI mwendawazimu pekee ambaye ataketi chini ya mnazi akifikiria project ya light rail iliojengwa kutumia $4.4B kwa 32km itakua sawa na project yao heavy rail ya Dar-moro iliojengwaa kwa chini ya $2B kwa reli ya 300km.
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Acha ushamba nia yangu ni kukuonyesha uwezo wa hawa jamaa Jengo la abiria ni kitu minor sana kwny ujenzi wa reli.....!!!!Ondoa hizo gharama nyingine maana kuna mambo mengine mengi sana ya kuangalia si kuja na ulinganisho wako wa kitoto toto.
 
WAKUDAMSH said:
Huyu nae,hivi ile think tank ya Kenya tuliokuwa tunaisikia those days iko wapi?!!! Hawa jamaa hamna kitu ujue.Muda na mitandao ya kijamii inawaumbua,time tells.
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Continue proving my point. Sasa hapa umeandika kitu kubwa with zero content. Shit doesn't even make sense
 
Kafrican said:
I have no problem with your station, You could have built a mud hut for all I care, just never try to compare it with our stations, or ever try to call it the biggest (cause its not) or the most modern station in EA!
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Which stations r those? Is Kunyaland having a train station to brag about? Those station u go upstairs then u come downstairs to board mtungi wa chang'aa! 🤣 🤣 🤣 👆
 
Kafrican said:
Unaona vile hizo stesheni hata bila vioo unajua tu hio design si ya kawaida kabisa...

Lakini kando na hapo uwache kulinganisha vitu ambavyo havilinganishwi!!! .... Kila project inajengwa kulingana na pesa zilizo tolewa, ni kama mimi niende niokote projects kali kali za CCCC zilizojengwa huko nje kana kwamba hivyo ndo watajenga huku kwasababu ni kampuni ile ile.

Qatar Intergrated Rail Project ni project ya $36B (Yani nusu ya Tz GDP), naitakua na urefu wa 300km ikiwemo 30km ya tunnels..

Gold line metro ambayo ni sehemu moja ya hio Qatar integrated metro rail ni project inayofanywa na consotium tano
i.e Gold Line metro project was awarded to a global consortium (Joint Venture Company) consisting of five companies. Aktor S.A from Greece, Larsen & Toubro LTD from India, Yapi Merkezi from Turkey, STFA also from Turkey and Al Jaber Engineering from Qatar.
Hizo kampuni mbili za uturuki zinamiliki jumla ya 40% ya ujenzi wa hio Gold line......

Hio Gold Line ni 32km pekee lakini garama yake ni $4.4 Billion USD !!!!!!! NI mwendawazimu pekee ambaye ataketi chini ya mnazi akifikiria project ya light rail iliojengwa kutumia $4.4B kwa 32km itakua sawa na project yao heavy rail ya Dar-moro iliojengwaa kwa chini ya $2B kwa reli ya 300km.
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The primary aim of any logistic infrastructure is to get goods n people from point A to B at an affordable cost ! If u can't do that then the whole project is a failure regardless of how beautiful r stations! This is the simplest fact most Kunyans can't grasp! What Chinese did to Kunyans was to apply lipstick on a pig n call it a Virgin girl!
 
Kafrican said:
Before I answer your question of total area in sq m, can you give us a source of where you came up with the 13,000 sq m figure?

And If I may ask, how are you guys going to stop people and animals from crossing on the rail instead of using the underpass given that alot of parts of your phase 1 don't have fence?
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Geza Ulole said:
The primary aim of any logistic infrastructure is to get goods n people from point A to B at an affordable cost ! If u can't do that then the whole project is a failure regardless of how beautiful r stations! This is the simplest fact most Kunyans can't grasp! What Chinese did to Kunyans was to apply lipstick on a pig n call it a Virgin girl!
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But tables turn when Kenyans use diesel engines on SGR carrying more freight, from point 'A to B'.


You must be the biggest hypocrite south of Sahara north of Limpopo.

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Zigi Rizla said:
But tables turn when Kenyans use diesel engines on SGR carrying more freight, from point 'A to B'.


You must be the biggest hypocrite south of Sahara north of Limpopo.

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which physics r u using to substantiate ur sgr will carry more cargo than ours while axle load for ours is 35 tones while urs is 25 tones and our electrical cargo trains can be 2 km long aside double stack n cruising at 120 km/h while urs at 80km/h n shorter?
 
WAKUDAMSH said:
Sawa jirani ni bora sisi kuliko nyie mliovaa chupi juu ya suruali halafu mnapita huku na huko mkijinasibu kuwa mmependeza!!!!!!.Ni ufwala, Stesheni nzuri......Reli teknolojia yake ni ya mwaka 1892,garimoshi ni mtungi wa chang'aa iliyolala.Kha,[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23].
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Hata elimu huna...kumbe hata hujui mfumo wa sgr umeanza lini

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Geza Ulole said:
which physics r u using to substantiate ur sgr will carry more cargo than ours while axle load for ours is 35 tones while urs is 25 tones and our electrical cargo trains can be 2 km long aside double stack n cruising at 120 km/h while urs at 80km/h n shorter?
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Kafrican spent their time educating you guys on OPERATIONS RESEARCH but lo and behold.. kuchezea mbuzi guitar.

At this point explaining anything to you guys is honestly a waste of energy I would rather TIME be the best teacher. FUUCK!
 
asvptx said:
Kafrican spent their time educating you guys on OPERATIONS RESEARCH but lo and behold.. kuchezea mbuzi guitar.

At this point explaining anything to you guys is honestly a waste of energy I would rather TIME be the best teacher. FUUCK!
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Nimeuliza ni physics gani mnatumia kusema reli ya axle load 25 tones inabeba mzigo zaidi ya yenye axle load 35 tones? Unajua axle load 35 tones means 140 tones for a wagon (2 infront, 2 behind) while for ur sgr means 100 tones for a wagon! So tell me having a rail that can afford to carry 140 tones and one that can afford 100 tones which one is more durable and with a capacity to carry more load?
 
Geza Ulole said:
which physics r u using to substantiate ur sgr will carry more cargo than ours while axle load for ours is 35 tones while urs is 25 tones and our electrical cargo trains can be 2 km long aside double stack n cruising at 120 km/h while urs at 80km/h n shorter?
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You need logic not physics to know that Kenya's SGR has been operational for 2+ years.

Yenu imebeba sifa pekee [emoji23][emoji23]

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