Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

coodip1 said:
Usichanganye madesa ndege ilizuiliwa SA na Canada hakuna mtu au nchi yoyote yenye ubavu wakutupangia au kuzuia mali ya TZ ndani ya ardhi ya Tz.
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Mlikataa ndani ya Tz ndo ikazuiliwa nje ya Tz.. hivyo ndo inaenda... Hakuna lolote linatuzuia kuwafurusha wachina lakini tukifanya hivyo tutakua tumevunja international law, hilo ndo jbo ambalo hatutaki kupatikana nalonmanake nje ya nchi Kenya Ina Mali nyingi sana
 
Simon said:
yes na haina waya.. zingine zinazopita zinaweza kupita kwenye hizo zenye waya.. uwe unauliza sio kujikuta mjuaji.. each electric pole will serve two lines.. na most stations zina five lines

haya nasubir ujuaji wako hapo kwenye one track for dedicated terminal
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Picha za Kwanza mlizonionyesha ni kama hii hapa Chini...

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hapo ukiangalia kote kote Kuna poles za stima, hizi ndo picha ambazo mlitumia haponawali, so kutokana na hio picha ndo comment yangu kuhusu kuhusu kushukisha mizigo kutoka kwa electrical SGR ilitokea, tena nikamwambia mwenzako Geza kwamba the only way that would be possible is kama hio track ya kushukisha mizigo itakua Haina nyaya za stima... Jibu lake ilikua ni Mimi sijielewi, inamaanisha hata yeye alikua hajui kwamba hio track ya kushukisha mizigo haitakua na nyaya za stima Bali itatumia diesel shunting locomotive., Manake kama angekua anajua hangechelewa kuniambia hivyo [so don't blame me for being observant]


Alafu kuhusu gantry cranes, Geza mwenyewe pia alitaja gantry cranes alipoanza kuongelea kuhusu the so called 'dedicated container yards'

Kwahivyo makosa ni yenyu nyinyi mnaopost picha ambazo hamuelewi ni nini alafu mkikosolewa kwa picha na maelezo mliotoa ndo mnakuja juu.... Kuna mwengine amepost picha za rail tracks zinazoingia kwa marshaling yard hapo Kwala, anasema hio ndo marshaling yard, je Mimi ninapoona hio picha ambayo ndo imenukuliwa kua ndo marshaling yard ya Tz na niwakosoe kwamba marshaling yard yenu Haina mahali pa kuegesha makontena, itakua makosa ni yangu au aliepost picha na kusema hio ndo marshaling yard?
 
Simon said:
yes na haina waya.. zingine zinazopita zinaweza kupita kwenye hizo zenye waya.. uwe unauliza sio kujikuta mjuaji.. each electric pole will serve two lines.. na most stations zina five lines

haya nasubir ujuaji wako hapo kwenye one track for dedicated terminal
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Atajua vp hata Ulaya electric trains zikisimama catenary lazma iwe detached from electromagnetic pantograph! Parking lanes huwa hazina overhead power lines! Ndo sababu ya kuwa na locomotives zinazo-store power na kuweza kijiendesha na kurudi kwenye overhead power line.

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Kafrican said:
Picha za Kwanza mlizonionyesha ni kama hii hapa Chini...

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hapo ukiangalia kote kote Kuna poles za stima, hizi ndo picha ambazo mlitumia haponawali, so kutokana na hio picha ndo comment yangu kuhusu kuhusu kushukisha mizigo kutoka kwa electrical SGR ilitokea, tena nikamwambia mwenzako Geza kwamba the only way that would be possible is kama hio track ya kushukisha mizigo itakua Haina nyaya za stima... Jibu lake ilikua ni Mimi sijielewi, inamaanisha hata yeye alikua hajui kwamba hio track ya kushukisha mizigo haitakua na nyaya za stima Bali itatumia diesel shunting locomotive., Manake kama angekua anajua hangechelewa kuniambia hivyo [so don't blame me for being observant]


Alafu kuhusu gantry cranes, Geza mwenyewe pia alitaja gantry cranes alipoanza kuongelea kuhusu the so called 'dedicated container yards'

Kwahivyo makosa ni yenyu nyinyi mnaopost picha ambazo hamuelewi ni nini alafu mkikosolewa kwa picha na maelezo mliotoa ndo mnakuja juu.... Kuna mwengine amepost picha za rail tracks zinazoingia kwa marshaling yard hapo Kwala, anasema hio ndo marshaling yard, je Mimi ninapoona hio picha ambayo ndo imenukuliwa kua ndo marshaling yard ya Tz na niwakosoe kwamba marshaling yard yenu Haina mahali pa kuegesha makontena nitakuja makosa ni yangu au aliepost picha na kusema hio ndo marshaling yard?
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uwe unauliza kwanza usilete ujuaji!
 
MGR Tanzania (size ya SGR Kenya) hauling cargo for LOT 5 SGR Mwanza-Isaka construction!
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MY TAKE
The phase Kunyaland couldn't get to though they started their SGR way before us halafu ikagota Naivasha! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🙆‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 
Geza Ulole said:
roho inamsokota! Siku hizi hawaiti SGR Kunyaland chinese first class !
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Reli ya 17 Million tonnes itishie reli ya 22 Million 🙄.. Sisi tulisha enjoy vya kutosha sahii kwetu ni jambo la kawaida tu, nyinyi huko ndo bado mko kama sisi zile enzi za 2016 ambapo tulikua over exited mpaka ilikua hii thread haikai 5 minutes bila new update.
 
KNBS latest economy data Shows SGR freight performance from Jan to May 2021, If you compare last years performance from Jan to May 2020, the SGR carried 1,597,471 tones of cargo compared to this years 2,309,311 over the same 5 months. (And in case you were wondering, in 2019 the SGR did about 3.5 Million tones)
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Na ukichukua hio data ya mwaka huu so far 2,309,311 tones hadi May, if you divide by 5 Months --> 2,309,311/5 = 461,862, Unapata average ya 461,862 tones per month, Ukichukua hio average ya per months na unafute projecttion ya mwaka inakua 461,862 * 12 = 5,542,346... Kwahivyo if things stay the same mwisho wa Mwaka tutarajie SGR itakua imebeba angalau 5.5million tones which will officially be more cargo than Meter Guage Rail's carrying capacity which is 5 Million tones maximum (tena hii 5 Million tones ni ile designed capacity in 1901 --- not today).

Kwahivyo wale wanaopenda kusema sijui MGR ingefanya kazi ya SGR wajue kwamba ingekua ishafika mwisho wa uwezo wake mwaka huu... MGR is just to complement the SGR by providing last mile connection, but can never be the future.
Sasa kama SGR ishafikisha 5.5 Million tones in four years na kila mwaka inaongeza angalau 1 million tones more, je ikifika 2030 itakua tumefikisha tani ngapi kwa SGR??? Tafakari hayo
 
Nakuru MGR Station 1960's when it was brand new

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Nakuru Station today
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