CREATION was only for israelites not for all human races, EVOLUTION still holds its truth !

[think3r91]

"... and lets create a man on our image, so he can stand for and monitor all the things we have made..." its the most thrilling statement in the bible showing about the completion of CREATION on what the bible and other religious book call, the creation of the earth. indeed it is,in one way or the other very convincing that the first man ever on the earth was created and lived in the Eden Garden which is believed to be somewhere in the middle east.

As one continues to enjoy and reading this creation story in the bible, we see how that small population of human race began to grow big. As the Adam and his wife Eve were blessed to have sons and daughter (though in their culture girls were less considered unless there was a significant role they do play). the most amazing thing in the story is when the woman was deceived by the snake, and the two sinned by disobeying the God and punishment was death to all of them without forgetting how man would live his life before he dies, and a woman pains in giving birth and so forth.

Apart from that the act of the older brother to kill his young brother brings something new to the world of creation, the death.. Adam witness the meaning of death, what happens when some dies and as a punishment God sent the older brother away from the small community but he MARKED the brother on his fore head so as PEOPLE from where he will be fled SHOULD NOT KILL HIM. this is the most interesting yet confusing part in the whole creation story as told by bible and other religious book.

I might be having low profiling about the facts of creation of the earth and the human race on the earth, if at all the creation was the first to all human race and the bible from the very beginning tells us how Adam and his family lived with exclusion of other societies. then here here were conclusions

1. why should the older brother, as we are told in the bible, asked God to protect him so as people should not kill him as he was chased of the family?
2. I do believe in CREATION and there was a creation on human but the creation didn't base on the entire human races on the earth surface, However the only human race created on the earth was the Israelite. and from the Israelite is where other human races should live and follow the example to.
3. THE STORY OF EVOLUTION of earth still holds its truth as the world just appeared due to the explosion of hydrogen clouds though the theory does not answer at all if people do evolve and developed from the apes why it takes long for the now apes to turn into humans
4. on the joint above, (2) it might be that the human race's ancestors were and are of differnt species as from the apes and that species will no longer be existed as it has evolved
5. the story of creation and the evolution theory are sometimes intersect somehow although depends on how one approaches it.
6. The whole story of CREATION based and reflects on culture of the jews and israelites ONLY because if otherwise, the creation story fails to explain as where does other human races like africans, indians , red indians and the far east Asians as chines and Japanese come from.

 

[KOMBESANA]

You need to read a Book by Retired American Anglican Bishop JOHN SHELBY SPONG..Rescuing the BIBLE from FUNDAMENTALISTS and from there you are thinking about the BIBLE,ISRAELITES,JESUS,and more wonderful stories than the KAIN STORY will fundamentally change

 

[think3r91]

You need to read a Book by Retired American Anglican Bishop JOHN SHELBY SPONG..Rescuing the BIBLE from FUNDAMENTALISTS and from there you are thinking about the BIBLE,ISRAELITES,JESUS,and more wonderful stories than the KAIN STORY will fundamentally change

will that book diverge the way i think of creation and evolution??? .. Some hints

 

[hargeisa]

Kuna watu na binadamu

Bin adamu ni kizazi cha adamu

Watu mijitu ilukuepo hata kabla ya adam

 

[think3r91]

Kuna watu na binadamu

Bin adamu ni kizazi cha adamu

Watu mijitu ilukuepo hata kabla ya adam

hapo naona unaafikiana na mimi kwa namna moja ama nyingine

 

[Ehud]

Interesting.....

 

[Kidzude]

Interesting.....

mMEPEWA JINA JIPYA LA KUTUMAINI ILI MUWE WANA WAKE

 

[STALLEY]

Kuna watu na binadamu

Bin adamu ni kizazi cha adamu

Watu mijitu ilukuepo hata kabla ya adam

ukisoma bible genesis 1:2 inasema the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep hapa ilikuwa kabla ya viumbe vyote kuumbwa
sasa hii story yako inatoka wapi

 

[Eiyer]

Nashindwa kukusaidia labda nina usingizi
'
Nitarudi,lakini kama unadhani uumbaji hauna ukweli,si uachane nao?Kitu gani kinakufanya uhangaike?

 

[Nzowa Godat]

Mijitu kwa sasa haipo na ilikuwa na umbo kubwa jamii ya dinoceurs(check spell) imesha-face extinction. Lakini bin Adam au wana wa Adam au wana wa Mtu, Adam maana yake mtu, ndio watu tunaowaona sasa walitokana na watoto watatu wa Nuhu yaani Hamu, Shemu na Jafeti. maana ni hao tu na wake zao na baba yao na mama yao katika mankind ndio waliokoka na gharika wakagizwa kuzaa sana bila uzazi wa mpango na kuijaza nchi, yaani dunia nzima.

 

[think3r91]

ukisoma bible genesis 1:2 inasema the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep hapa ilikuwa kabla ya viumbe vyote kuumbwa

sasa hii story yako inatoka wapi

Lakini uandishi wa biblia tukumbuke umeegemea sana kwa taifa la israel. Ukisoma mwanza hadi mwisho na hadi hata yesu alivyokuja na jinsi ya utawala wa warumi baadae. Lakini kama nilivyosema mwanzo.. Uumbaji upo kwa taifa moja la israel tu nao ndo wanasadiki palikuwa hakuna kitu juu ya chini bali giza juu ya vilindi vya maji.. Kwa lugha nyepesi ni kwamba hapakuwa na israel kabla.. Na creation ya israel ikaanzia hapo na biblia ikaanzia hapo. Swali la msingi ni... Hii tofauti ya 'races' hapa duniani inatokea wapi.. Where exactly does deep dim skinned people,the yellow (asians) the red and so forth come from???

 

[think3r91]

mMEPEWA JINA JIPYA LA KUTUMAINI ILI MUWE WANA WAKE

Thread hii haijakanusha uwepo wa hilo jina jipya la kutumaini .. Hii thread inaafikiana na yote yaelezwayo katka biblia ila tu nikujua tu uumbaji na evolution zote zilikuwepo.. Kwa mfano naamini pale kitabu cha mwanzo kinaposema 'natumfanye mtu kwa mfano wetu.. ' Hapa moja kwa moja naamini kwamba si kutengeneza au kuumba mtu kama mungu la hasha, bali ni kutengeneza au kumuumba mtu asiye na dhambi ili mataifa mengine yawezekuishi na kufata mfano wa taifa jipya

 

[think3r91]

Nashindwa kukusaidia labda nina usingizi
'
Nitarudi,lakini kama unadhani uumbaji hauna ukweli,si uachane nao?Kitu gani kinakufanya uhangaike?

Nadhani hujanielewa vizuri mkuu.. Labda ungerudia tena kupitia hii thread.. Ila kwa haraka haraka ni hivi.. Sijakataa kwamba uumbaji ulikuwepo.. Ofcourse uumbaji ulikuwepo na binadamu wa kwanza wa taifa la israel adam, aliumbwa ila hii haifumbii macho mabadiliko ya kijamaa nau evolution.. Mfano mdogo kwenye biblia hawajazungumzia sehemu yoyote kuhusu wanyama wakubwa saana kama madainasosi** ila walikuwepo... Ningefurahi urudi ili unisaidie vyema mkuu

 

[Eiyer]

think3r91 ,unaelewa nini biblia inaposema kuwa "akawafanya wanya wa kufugwa kwa jinsi yao na wanyama wa mwituni kwa jinsi yao?

 

[think3r91]

think3r91 ,unaelewa nini biblia inaposema kuwa "akawafanya wanya wa kufugwa kwa jinsi yao na wanyama wa mwituni kwa jinsi yao?

Ninaweza kutoa jibu ambalo likatofautiana na uelewa wako juu ya hilo jambo.. Nadhani ngekuwa vema kama ungenielewsha ndugu

 

[MaxShimba]

Allah is supporting Charles Darwin in a diabolic allahic reverse evolution.

5:60 Then say: "Should I inform you [People of the Book] of those, who will have even worse recompense from Allah than the transgressors? They are those whom Allah has cursed; who have been under His wrath; some of whom were turned into apes and swine; who worshipped taghut [the devil or idols]; those are the people who are in a far worse plight and who have turned farthest away from the Right Way." (Maududi)

Since Allah is full of love, he has decided to change/turned the Jews into apes and swine for generally disbelieving in Allah's revelations. That is an islamic evolution. Going backward.

 

[Eiyer]

Ninaweza kutoa jibu ambalo likatofautiana na uelewa wako juu ya hilo jambo.. Nadhani ngekuwa vema kama ungenielewsha ndugu

Jibu tu ndugu yangu,kwakua msingi wa ulichouliza upo hapo!

 

[think3r91]

Jibu tu ndugu yangu,kwakua msingi wa ulichouliza upo hapo!

Alitenganisha baadhi ya wanyama wakawa wa kufugwa na binadamu na wengine wakawa wa mwituni.. Ila ktk maandiko ya biblia hakuzungumzia aina gani ya mnya ni wakufugwa na yupi si wakufugwa kwa kile tunachhona kwa sasa binadamu anaweza fuga mnyama yeyote anayetaka kuanzia samaki,dolphins,simba,mbwa paka, tembo chui dubu panda n..k

 

[HT]

Apart from that the act of the older brother to kill his young brother brings something new to the world of creation, the death.. Adam witness the meaning of death, what happens when some dies and as a punishment God sent the older brother away from the small community but he MARKED the brother on his fore head so as PEOPLE from where he will be fled SHOULD NOT KILL HIM. this is the most interesting yet confusing part in the whole creation story as told by bible and other religious book.

Confusion sometimes comes from little minds who cannot think. Its easy to "confuse" a child with calculus right? Does that mean differential equations are confusing? No! It just means the child cannot understand them. So the same is your case!

why should the older brother, as we are told in the bible, asked God to protect him so as people should not kill him as he was chased of the family?

Where do you get this? Where did you copy and paste from? You seem to have problem in understanding simple things. Its a figment of your imagination. Its not in the Bible!

I do believe in CREATION and there was a creation on human but the creation didn't base on the entire human races on the earth surface, However the only human race created on the earth was the Israelite. and from the Israelite is where other human races should live and follow the example to.

Not only this shows how stupid your argument is, it shows you don't know what you are writing! If you believe in creation then where do you derive your history? If the Bible as you tried to say above it says all PEOPLE come from single couple, Adam and Eve. If you don't believe that, there exists no other creation story. So Esentially you are either wrong or a liar.

Also the Bible says nothing of what we know as race. There is no race in the Bible and so in science. Creator made no race. Racism is a fruit of Evolution, a stupidy hypothesis (Not even a theory)

THE STORY OF EVOLUTION of earth still holds its truth as the world just appeared due to the explosion of hydrogen clouds though the theory does not answer at all if people do evolve and developed from the apes why it takes long for the now apes to turn into humans

This is stupid comment at best. Yes it is!
What banged? Who banged it? Why did it bang? Why are no more bangs (and hence more lives)?
Why worms have stopped "evolving" into humans? Why haven't you evolved into something which is not a human?

Evolution is not even a story, its a tale. No one observed evolution. No scientific evidence to back it up, none!
Evolution is a religion that is believed by millions (billions?) not because its true but because they DO NOT WANT to believe in Creator God.

Here is the list to show how this sacred cow have been defended even by forgeries (when something have no evidence make one lol!)...Lucy, Neandathal man, Piltdown man, Haeckel embryo gill slits, and list goes on!
Evolution is a lie! A religion!

on the joint above, (2) it might be that the human race's ancestors were and are of differnt species as from the apes and that species will no longer be existed as it has evolved

How do you define a species? How did you know that those "species" were our ancestors? Were you there?

the story of creation and the evolution theory are sometimes intersect somehow although depends on how one approaches it.

No they are polar opposite, 180 out, never intersect anywhere. Evolution removes God and Creation makes Him at center. Evolution describes our existence as accident, creation clearly shows its Planned. I repeat, you seem to talk something you swallowed in class and don't even understand what you write!

The whole story of CREATION based and reflects on culture of the jews and israelites ONLY because if otherwise, the creation story fails to explain as where does other human races like africans, indians , red indians and the far east Asians as chines and Japanese come from.

How can creation explain something it denies it exists? Bible is clear we are of one blood and its clear that no races exists. God made a single "race" if you will and that is race of humans. So no need for explanation. Creation account covers how ALL humans came to exist, why do we have the earth as it is and what God is going to do as well as his current plan. Evolution cannot explain any of those. In fact evolution can explain nothing at all!

You seem to be a confused guy who does not seem to understand what is writing. Can you explain to me this simple thing: How did life come from non life?

 

[HT]

ukisoma bible genesis 1:2 inasema the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep hapa ilikuwa kabla ya viumbe vyote kuumbwa
sasa hii story yako inatoka wapi

Katika "imaginations" zake!