CREATION was only for israelites not for all human races, EVOLUTION still holds its truth !

[kadoda11]

the good thing i love about issues based on consiprancy theories is that act of unlimited argumentetion..hapa nategemea kupata mabishano yasiyo kuwa na ukomo toka kwa manguli.niliwahi kusoma sehemu kuwa eti science is their only to ask questions not to solve problems.

 

[kahtaan]

That is an islamic evolution. Going backward. [/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Ministry Maxshimba.! Back to the war with islam again!
I know they pay you to do this. But you are not doing any good to your church! Or even to yourself. You know that!?
If you trully the follower of Jesus! Then jesus never spoke like you! Cause what you do is !You are preaching Islam!.
All your threads is about islam.
I think you should focus on what they are paying you to do!.
Otherwise they mighy fire you!!.
Don't come to me and cry! Cause I've warn you! !

 

[kahtaan]

You need to read a Book by Retired American Anglican Bishop JOHN SHELBY SPONG..Rescuing the BIBLE from FUNDAMENTALISTS and from there you are thinking about the BIBLE,ISRAELITES,JESUS,and more wonderful stories than the KAIN STORY will fundamentally change

You say" RESCUING BIBLE FROM FUNDAMENTALIST!.

There is a total number of 52 Major bibles on earth today. Which is used in the different churches worldwide!

Tell us which bible. Was John sherby try to rescue??!

Or shall we ask help from the so called bible scholars! Eiyer and her companion MaxShimba !!

 

[think3r91]

Confusion sometimes comes from little minds who cannot think. Its easy to "confuse" a child with calculus right? Does that mean differential equations are confusing? No! It just means the child cannot understand them. So the same is your case!


Where do you get this? Where did you copy and paste from? You seem to have problem in understanding simple things. Its a figment of your imagination. Its not in the Bible!


Not only this shows how stupid your argument is, it shows you don't know what you are writing! If you believe in creation then where do you derive your history? If the Bible as you tried to say above it says all PEOPLE come from single couple, Adam and Eve. If you don't believe that, there exists no other creation story. So Esentially you are either wrong or a liar.

Also the Bible says nothing of what we know as race. There is no race in the Bible and so in science. Creator made no race. Racism is a fruit of Evolution, a stupidy hypothesis (Not even a theory)


This is stupid comment at best. Yes it is!
What banged? Who banged it? Why did it bang? Why are no more bangs (and hence more lives)?
Why worms have stopped "evolving" into humans? Why haven't you evolved into something which is not a human?

Evolution is not even a story, its a tale. No one observed evolution. No scientific evidence to back it up, none!
Evolution is a religion that is believed by millions (billions?) not because its true but because they DO NOT WANT to believe in Creator God.

Here is the list to show how this sacred cow have been defended even by forgeries (when something have no evidence make one lol!)...Lucy, Neandathal man, Piltdown man, Haeckel embryo gill slits, and list goes on!
Evolution is a lie! A religion!


How do you define a species? How did you know that those "species" were our ancestors? Were you there?


No they are polar opposite, 180 out, never intersect anywhere. Evolution removes God and Creation makes Him at center. Evolution describes our existence as accident, creation clearly shows its Planned. I repeat, you seem to talk something you swallowed in class and don't even understand what you write!



How can creation explain something it denies it exists? Bible is clear we are of one blood and its clear that no races exists. God made a single "race" if you will and that is race of humans. So no need for explanation. Creation account covers how ALL humans came to exist, why do we have the earth as it is and what God is going to do as well as his current plan. Evolution cannot explain any of those. In fact evolution can explain nothing at all!

You seem to be a confused guy who does not seem to understand what is writing. Can you explain to me this simple thing: How did life come from non life?

I wish you could go through it again abd again so as you get what I intended to deliver here.. Perspectives may differ, as you can see your point of approach was bias and kind of sarcastic which brings no help.. The basis of what I posted here are typical from the combination of the two the bible point of view and scoence point of view try to look at it in the wider view please may be it will help you big words and fantasy. By the way thank you for your contribution but at least add some sense in it next time.. Question with the need to know not to test what you think you know... And to answer your question.. It depends with what angle you want to know..PEACE

 

[Apollo]

....And Evolution shows how God is great, believing in Evolution doesn't mean that ur agaist God or you don't believe in God.

 

[think3r91]

....And Evolution shows how God is great, believing in Evolution doesn't mean that ur agaist God or you don't believe in God.

Of course now you have enlighted me to some extent inawezekana creation was long time ago before israel and the science called it evolution

 

[HT]

....And Evolution shows how God is great, believing in Evolution doesn't mean that ur agaist God or you don't believe in God.

Evolution is a blind process. Are you insinuating that God works blindly by chances?
That is insult to your very Creator!

 

[HT]

Of course now you have enlighted me to some extent inawezekana creation was long time ago before israel and the science called it evolution

Keep lying to yourself!

 

[kahtaan]

....And Evolution shows how God is great, believing in Evolution doesn't mean that ur agaist God or you don't believe in God.

Right sayying! Pal
High 5!!

 

[kahtaan]

Evolution is a blind process. Are you insinuating that God works blindly by chances?
That is insult to your very Creator!

HT I think both you and Apollo are right! But your differ from the way you described the "evolution"

My belief accept some part of evolution as a part of creation!

But it is not the way science described it! I think we both agree that the human of 1000 years ago is not the same as the human of today!
Same process when it comes to other animals, bird's. Insects! And so on!

But if you say "human is a product of chimpanzee! !

Thats where you mess things up!!

I think there no need for war on this!!
Thanks fellows!

 

[HT]

HT I think both you and Apollo are right! But your differ from the way you described the "evolution"

No! Either I or He is wrong! I reject evolution to dot. I don't have anything to agree with it, that is it!

My belief accept some part of evolution as a part of creation!

This is "your" definition of evolution and we cannot debate opinions. So I leave it undebated!

But it is not the way science described it! I think we both agree that the human of 1000 years ago is not the same as the human of today!
Same process when it comes to other animals, bird's. Insects! And so on!

Whether short or tall its still humans!

But if you say "human is a product of chimpanzee! !

Thats where you mess things up!!

And that is what evolution is and its worse than that. Evolutionists blindly believes that we came from unicellular organisms and then from non-living materials! That is stupid at best and dangerous at worst!
I reject it!

I think there no need for war on this!!
Thanks fellows!

Truth have to be said whether it will produce heat or light. But light is better than heat 🙂

 

[Ally Kombo]

Lakini uandishi wa biblia tukumbuke umeegemea sana kwa taifa la israel. Ukisoma mwanza hadi mwisho na hadi hata yesu alivyokuja na jinsi ya utawala wa warumi baadae. Lakini kama nilivyosema mwanzo.. Uumbaji upo kwa taifa moja la israel tu nao ndo wanasadiki palikuwa hakuna kitu juu ya chini bali giza juu ya vilindi vya maji.. Kwa lugha nyepesi ni kwamba hapakuwa na israel kabla.. Na creation ya israel ikaanzia hapo na biblia ikaanzia hapo. Swali la msingi ni... Hii tofauti ya 'races' hapa duniani inatokea wapi.. Where exactly does deep dim skinned people,the yellow (asians) the red and so forth come from???

........la msingi ungejiuliza kama Waisraeli wanaifuata na kuikubali hiyo 'Bibilia' !:bored:

 

[IGWE]

........la msingi ungejiuliza kama Waisraeli wanaifuata na kuikubali hiyo 'Bibilia' !:bored:

Hapo sasa_pia ni vema kujiuliza hata hiyo quran waarabu wanaifuata...?

 

[think3r91]

........la msingi ungejiuliza kama Waisraeli wanaifuata na kuikubali hiyo 'Bibilia' !:bored:

Kwenye suala zima la kuifuata ama kutoifata biblia kwenye imani ya mtu sikulitilia uzito

Kuhusisha biblia katka mada hii ni kuonesha tu uwiano wa haya mambo regardless of the faith

 

[think3r91]

No! Either I or He is wrong! I reject evolution to dot. I don't have anything to agree with it, that is it!


This is "your" definition of evolution and we cannot debate opinions. So I leave it undebated!


Whether short or tall its still humans!


And that is what evolution is and its worse than that. Evolutionists blindly believes that we came from unicellular organisms and then from non-living materials! That is stupid at best and dangerous at worst!
I reject it!


Truth have to be said whether it will produce heat or light. But light is better than heat 🙂

If you can, please answer this question!!!

Why there's diversity in races among the humans??

 

[Pianist]

Ni muhimu kutofautisha imani(creation) na sayansi(evolution).

Watu wa Israel walijikuta wapo utumwani Misri, Musa aliwaambia kwamba wao ni taifa teule hivyo katika kuwaaminisha kwamba wao ni taifa teule kwa kiasi kikubwa 'alitunga' sehemu kubwa ya vitabu vya 'pentateuch' (mwanzo,kutoka,walawi,hesabu,kumbukumbu ya torah) vinavyoonesha historia yao kabla ya utumwa wa misri. Kwa mfano stori ya creation inatuonesha kwamba sisi hatuko hapa duniani by accident, bali ni kwa mpango wa Mungu. Kwa hiyo wale waIsrael wa muda ule hapakuwa na haja ya kuwa na stori kuonesha uumbaji wa watu kutoka races mbalimbali na wao mfano; waafrika wabantu, waaborigini, waamerindia na watu wa race nyinginezo. Kwa hiyo mazingira ya muda ule yaliruhusu watu kuamini hivyo.

Kwa mazingira ya sasa hivi mtu kuamini kwamba dunia imeanza miaka 6000 iliyopita ni kazi. Kuamini dunia imeanza miaka 6000 ni kwamba kuamini kwamba; hydrocarbons zimetengenezwa ndani ya muda huo, dinasoria wameishi miaka hiyo, zinjathropus ameishi katika miaka hiyo, carbon-14 test ni uwongo, uranium haikutengenzwa miaka bilioni 2-3 iliyopita bali ndani ya miaka 6000, nadharia nyingi za fizikia kuhusiana na ulimwengu ni za uwongo kwa mfano nadharia ya ulimwengu kutanuka kutoka katikati n.k.

Katika historia Galileo aliingia katika matatizo na Papa (Urban viii) kwa sababu alisema dunia sio centre ya mfumo wa jua bali dunia inalizunguka jua. Lakini leo hii hamna kiongozi wa dini anaweza akasimama akasema dunia ndiyo centre ya mfumo wa jua au dunia iko flat na sio duara kwa sababu maendeleo katika sayansi yamepingana na biblia

Biblical references Psalm 93:1, 96:10, and 1 Chronicles 16:30 include text stating that "the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved." In the same manner, Psalm 104:5 says, "the Lord set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved." Further, Ecclesiastes 1:5 states that "And the sun rises and sets and returns to its place."[SUP][51][/SUP]

Na huko tunakoelekea nadharia ya creation itaachwa kushabikiwa na viongozi wa dini kwani hata sasa ni nadra kusikia wakiizungumzia.

 

[Ally Kombo]

Hapo sasa_pia ni vema kujiuliza hata hiyo quran waarabu wanaifuata...?

........katika hilo la Waarabu lina halalisha Wayahudi kutofuata na kuitumia Biblia ?:frog:

 

[Ally Kombo]

Kwenye suala zima la kuifuata ama kutoifata biblia kwenye imani ya mtu sikulitilia uzito

Kuhusisha biblia katka mada hii ni kuonesha tu uwiano wa haya mambo regardless of the faith

.........hoja yako Umeijenga katika Biblia kuhusisha watu (Wayahudi) ambao wao hawaiamini Biblia wala kuifuata !

 

[Otuck]

Kuna watu na binadamu

Bin adamu ni kizazi cha adamu

Watu mijitu ilukuepo hata kabla ya adam

Hahahahahaha!!! Duuuh!? Nimeipenda hii!!

 

[crabat]

historia..inasema Binaadam wanatokana na watu wawili Adam Na Hawa....waliishi miaka mingi iliyopita....na ushahidi wa mazingira upo ya kuwapo kwao duniani....mfano sehemu walizoshukia na walipo kutania baada ya kushushwa.
lakini historia inasema hawa hawakua mayahudi...bali walikua ni Wafrika...yaani weusi maji yakunde.... tusidanganywe na zile sinema kuonesha Adam alikua mzungu ama myahudi....ushahidi mpaka sasa unaonesha binaadamu wa mwanzo aliishi Tanzania..hakuna ushahidi mwengine mpaka sasa
lakini jee haya makabila tofauti..yaani machina, wafrica, wazungu , waarabu , wahindi, aboriginies, na wengineo walikujaje wakati baba zao na mama zao ni kutoka tumbo moja? na mbali ya hilo....kuna zaidi ya lugha alfu moja (1000).
jee hizi zilikujaje? wakati sote tunatoka kwa Adam Na hAWA?

sababu nyingi zimetajwa nyingi ni kuhama hama kwa watu kutoka makaazi yao asili kutawanyika duniani ambako walikutana na matatizo ya hali ya hewa , chakula na ukosefu wa aina fulani za madini na vitamins ikasababisha watu kubadilika kuwa katika makabila tofauti ....ingawa hii kidogo haina mshiko kwani unaweza kubadilika rangi ..lakin nywele na macho yetu vipi yamekuwa tofauti ? macho ya kichina , green eyes na meusi !!!

ukweli hili ni suala gumu ambalo vitabu vya dini halikuweka sawa..labda kwa sababu halikutokea kuulizwa wakati huo na kupatiwa jawabu kutoka wahay au ufunuo
lakini mie uchunguzi wangu wa karibu na utafiti kidogo ni kuwa ukweli upo Juu ya ADAM NA HAWA na mtakumbuka baada ya ile dhambi walofanya kutokana na ushawishi wa ibilisi...walishushwa duniani kukaa humu na kuzaana kwa muda maalum ambao Muumba pekee ndie amejua makadirio yake
ADAM NA HAWA walishushwa pamoja na ibilisi ambaye ni malaika muasi kuja duniani...na huyu alichukua ahadi .....kuwapoteza vizazi vyao.....na pia inaaminika MUNGU pia ameumba Majini kama viumbe wengine
yaani kuna Malaika . Binaadamu na Majini..sasa kuna ushahidi wa binadamu kuoa au kuolewa na majini...na inasemekana wakati waa Nabii Suleiman alifuga majini ..na majini yale yalijenga mji wake kwani walimuogopa sana....alipokufa...hivyo utaona kuna uhusiano wa karibu kati ya majini na binaadam
kutokana na uingiliano huu majini yalingiliana na binadamu ndio maana kukapatikana kizazi kipya tofauti duniani races nyingi zimechanganya na majini....na majini wapo makabila tofauti na wanaongea lugha tofauti.....na wao ndo chanzo cha makabila tofauti...na kwa kiasi kikubwa wazungu wana genes kubwa zaidi ya majini ndio maana wapo watundu sana , wanapenda kumwaga damu sana na ni watafutaji sana...na wapiganaji sana.....na wavumbuzi ....akili zao ni kutokana na genes nyingi za kijini