Dar es Salaam ina eneo kubwa zaidi ya Nairobi

Dar es Salaam ina eneo kubwa zaidi ya Nairobi

I love my sweet Nairobi and my sweet sweet Home city of Eldoret.I love Kenya soo much.
 
Edward Wanjala said:
Mimi nikiuliza, kwani hili jiji Dar.. lakjengwa bila ramani au mpangilio???? Naona majumba mengine yaelekea kusini mengine mashariki hata hufahamu!!!! Hapa jiji lililopangwa.
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kila mtu anajenga kwenye kiwanja chake
 
Livale said:
Wanibugudhi na matamshi yako bana, kaongea kana kwamba Nairobi waijua kumbe ni mihemko tu.

About 80% of Nairobi cbd was planned and built from the late 60s to mid 80s after independence, by Kenyan technocrats fresh from learning abroad. The Nairobi wazungu waliacha and it's plan was a small and fledgling town. Cbd ilikua between kenyatta Avenue and haile Selassie road. Upper Hill was a forest, ngara and downtown an estate, na kina langata, buruburu, south b/C, etc were all uninhabited shrublands. Kibera was a slum for Africans then and was then at the border of Nairobi town coz wakoloni hawakutaka waafrika ndani ya jiji. Comparé that Nairobi with the current 1 ndio ujue wazungu waliplan a very small part

Nairobi just after independence
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Nashangaa unasema naku bugughi na matamshi yangu, hebu rudi nyuma uangalie jinsi ya wakenya mnavyo tujibu humu JF. Besides, hapa ni uwanja wa mapambano, mkimwaga mboga sisi tuna mwanga ugali.

Nairobi iliyoachwa na mzungu huwezi kulinganisha na what was left on other East African countries. The Brit's left the structural development of the city centre, they left the map too. If you blacks didn't "SPOIL THE PARTY" na ile fujo ya mau mau, they would still be there to this day. Of course, paka akiondoka panya ana tawala, weusi wameongeza oneza vipande hapo Nairobi, but the British way of doing things especially in town planing still in lingering on Kenyans mind. if you manage to go places like London and compare that to Nairobi, you'll know what I'm taking about.
 
Ngoja tuu nikalale maana hapa haya mabishano hadi kichwa kinauma sielewi naona MMeanza na MIJI mmekuja Wanawake mara tena MIJI mweeh nashangaa naona tena VIJIJI duuh ngoja niwaachie na uzi wenu ntakuja mwakani KUANGALIA mlipofikia🙂😉🙁
 
EMEDNEY said:
Ngoja tuu nikalale maana hapa haya mabishano hadi kichwa kinauma sielewi naona MMeanza na MIJI mmekuja Wanawake mara tena MIJI mweeh nashangaa naona tena VIJIJI duuh ngoja niwaachie na uzi wenu ntakuja mwakani KUANGALIA mlipofikia🙂😉🙁
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Tihahaaa...umenifanya nicheke.......Ati kichwa kinauma tena...
 
EMEDNEY said:
Ngoja tuu nikalale maana hapa haya mabishano hadi kichwa kinauma sielewi naona MMeanza na MIJI mmekuja Wanawake mara tena MIJI mweeh nashangaa naona tena VIJIJI duuh ngoja niwaachie na uzi wenu ntakuja mwakani KUANGALIA mlipofikia🙂😉🙁
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Mwanzi1 said:
Nashangaa unasema naku bugughi na matamshi yangu, hebu rudi nyuma uangalie jinsi ya wakenya mnavyo tujibu humu JF. Besides, hapa ni uwanja wa mapambano, mkimwaga mboga sisi tuna mwanga ugali.

Nairobi iliyoachwa na mzungu huwezi kulinganisha na what was left on other East African countries. The Brit's left the structural development of the city centre, they left the map too. If you blacks didn't "SPOIL THE PARTY" na ile fujo ya mau mau, they would still be there to this day. Of course, paka akiondoka panya ana tawala, weusi wameongeza oneza vipande hapo Nairobi, but the British way of doing things especially in town planing still in lingering on Kenyans mind. if you manage to go places like London and compare that to Nairobi, you'll know what I'm taking about.
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At East African independence, Uganda, also known as the Queen's crown was the most developed nation. Dar-es-salaam na Nairobi zilikua zatoshana kimaendeleo na ukubwa. Tazama hapa
Nairobi, Mombasa and other cities Pre-Independence - Page 2 - SkyscraperCity

Now to the other thing, Nairobi, Nakuru etc have good urban plans, something concurrent to what you see in the West because we are open to learning new things. Dar has no plan whatsoever because...
 
Livale said:
At East African independence, Uganda, also known as the Queen's crown was the most developed nation. Dar-es-salaam na Nairobi zilikua zatoshana kimaendeleo na ukubwa. Tazama hapa
Nairobi, Mombasa and other cities Pre-Independence - Page 2 - SkyscraperCity

Now to the other thing, Nairobi, Nakuru etc have good urban plans, something concurrent to what you see in the West because we are open to learning new things. Dar has no plan whatsoever because...
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Kwa hiyo unataka kusema the British didn't do much for the development of kenya or Nairobi, unaongea na mtu aliyeishi Kenya in early seventies and who has been coming to Nairobi ever since. British hawa kujenga Dar, walikuta German's wameanza ila hawa kumaliza, na wao hawakutaka kujenga kitu chochote because Tanzania was just a territory not a colony. On the other hand Nairobi was home to them, they like the weather, na waswahili walikuwa wapole sana kwao. Why leave while you have everything, the land, the food, territory next door, money and the people to do your dirty work. In return, they end up moulding Nairobi into their own image. Kote unako ukisema in Kenya, Waingereza walishafika before Kenyans. Local kenyans they just modified what was already there no wonder when you pass some areas in Nairobi unafikiri your in some of neighbourhood za UK. Sasa ukisema UK didn't do anything for development of Nairobi sikuelewi. On the other hand, if you say Dar has no plan, labda niachie hapo, Mungu atupe uzima tuu, tatapata majibu baadae.
 
Livale said:
At East African independence, Uganda, also known as the Queen's crown was the most developed nation. Dar-es-salaam na Nairobi zilikua zatoshana kimaendeleo na ukubwa. Tazama hapa
Nairobi, Mombasa and other cities Pre-Independence - Page 2 - SkyscraperCity

Now to the other thing, Nairobi, Nakuru etc have good urban plans, something concurrent to what you see in the West because we are open to learning new things. Dar has no plan whatsoever because...
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Daaah imagine kipindi icho watu walikua na maisha makali sana.....kama hadi leo kuna watu wanakosa Milo mitatu.....kipindi icho ilikuaje. .....means of transport,education access,health services,people where there to escort mr muzungu. .....i can smell how our elders suffered[emoji35]
 
tuusan said:
Daaah imagine kipindi icho watu walikua na maisha makali sana.....kama hadi leo kuna watu wanakosa Milo mitatu.....kipindi icho ilikuaje. .....means of transport,education access,health services,people where there to escort mr muzungu. .....i can smell how our elders suffered[emoji35]
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At independence Kenya had 2.4mn population

Kenya also was UKs Largest African agric producer since world war 2 ....colonies were given subsidies to improve Production for Britain.....
My Dad told me during those days they would Book a train in advance 1month Early and they would Travel in Their own cabin from Kisii to Nairobi via Kisumu it would take them 3-5 days they would pay 1kshs for the trip

The buses were worse then You could book a bus in Kisii If its full since there was 1 bus a week you could stand In the middle design ya kushika mkuki mpaka Nairobi For a whole week ....7 days from Kisii to Nairobi
This days my dad takes 7hours and he is Really Proud of how far we have come as a country

I remember my dad when he was in University in Nairobi in the 70s alikuwa ananiambia time moi took power People used to bath with milk since food was free in all institutions of learning and bread was 1 cent yearly the govt gave students with 1st class to be DCs in remote districts a Landrover a house and 2000kshs about 200,000kshs now for Their Helb Loans yearly......Kenyas economy and Food problem Came about in 1985-1995 when Moi drove this country to poverty in 1991 its recorded infaltion rates reached 400% ....
 
Sammuel999 said:
At independence Kenya had 2.4mn population

Kenya also was UKs Largest African agric producer since world war 2 ....colonies were given subsidies to improve Production for Britain.....
My Dad told me during those days they would Book a train in advance 1month Early and they would Travel in Their own cabin from Kisii to Nairobi via Kisumu it would take them 3-5 days they would pay 1kshs for the trip

The buses were worse then You could book a bus in Kisii If its full since there was 1 bus a week you could stand In the middle design ya kushika mkuki mpaka Nairobi For a whole week ....7 days from Kisii to Nairobi
This days my dad takes 7hours and he is Really Proud of how far we have come as a country

I remember my dad when he was in University in Nairobi in the 70s alikuwa ananiambia time moi took power People used to bath with milk since food was free in all institutions of learning and bread was 1 cent yearly the govt gave students with 1st class to be DCs in remote districts a Landrover a house and 2000kshs about 200,000kshs now for Their Helb Loans yearly......Kenyas economy and Food problem Came about in 1985-1995 when Moi drove this country to poverty in 1991 its recorded infaltion rates reached 400% ....
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Your lucky, mzee wako schooled that earlier,how about majority of Kenyan hu ended up with ordinary education or even just primary level education. ....
most of the guys by had chance to enter varsity by the time being were treated well,the same story goes to udsm people were given bread and butter schooling was that easy for them plus money for their pocket....my concern Is to the poor by had no chance to study further .....
 
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