East African Federation (EAF) public Views

[Smatta]

I'm officialluy pi$$ed-off with our leadership. WOTE waliofanikisha hili I hope they die of cancer..yeah tena ile ya tiGOni.

That was kinda funny, lakini let me promise you one thing Abdul, this common market is of East Africans benefit, we will all benefit from it, at times we have to be optimistic, the community will develop our economies faster.

 

[Abdulhalim]

...Its time Chama Cha Majambazi was shown the door. I dont believe Kikwete and his gang listened
to the voice of the people. Hawa wakenya ni wezi na sio siri..nd'o maana wana moto na hii kitu.
Nashangaa Muungwana na wenzie wameshindwa kuona hili jambo.

Anyway I dont sweat it much, maana like you said when it comes to the last laugh this thing will
collapse just like the previous one.

Yangu matho tu!

Sijaelewa ni nini kinamiss kwene taifa letu ambacho hii EAC italeta..Sijawahi kujibiwa popote. Ukiuliza utaambiwa aah umoja ni nguvu..kana kwamba umoja huleta maendeleo bila kufanya kazi na kuwa wabunifu na kujitegemea sisi wenyewe.

 

[Abdulhalim]

That was kinda funny, lakini let me promise you one thing Abdul, this common market is of East Africans benefit, we will all benefit from it, at times we have to be optimistic, the community will develop our economies faster.

Just show me HOW waTZ watafaidika.? How?

 

[Smatta]

...Its time Chama Cha Majambazi was shown the door. I dont believe Kikwete and his gang listened
to the voice of the people. Hawa wakenya ni wezi na sio siri..nd'o maana wana moto na hii kitu.
Nashangaa Muungwana na wenzie wameshindwa kuona hili jambo.

Anyway I dont sweat it much, maana like you said when it comes to the last laugh this thing will
collapse just like the previous one.

Yangu matho tu!

You mean even the moderator has deteriorated to Kanyabwoya's level? Dint expect this from you homes, thought you knew us and our struggles better, but haidhuru, we coming there in droves and y'all know that for a fact, so stop dragging your feet and lets work together.

 

[Bantugbro]

Heshima mbele mkuu,

Of course I own land in Kenya, but I wouldn't mind getting another piece in a foreign country with so much mineral potential, its every mans dream to own a piece of land that might strike oil, gold, gas or any other valuable natural resource....

And no am not employed, am a businessman hapa tanzania na Nrb. so i'll be realising my benefit faster than most of you employed workers.

So you are already trading in TZ why don't you apply for mineral prospecting license? i reckon you now its not an easy process. Hiyo kitu hata kwa wa-TZ wenyewe ni kazi kubwa kupata. Kama una mtaji wa kutosha na ni mtu wa kufuata sheria hakuna atakeyekuzuia kufanya biashara iwe bongo ama sehemu nyingine.

 

[Bantugbro]

...Its time Chama Cha Majambazi was shown the door. I dont believe Kikwete and his gang listened
to the voice of the people. Hawa wakenya ni wezi na sio siri..nd'o maana wana moto na hii kitu.
Nashangaa Muungwana na wenzie wameshindwa kuona hili jambo.

Anyway I dont sweat it much, maana like you said when it comes to the last laugh this thing will
collapse just like the previous one.

Yangu matho tu!

ouuch!

 

[Lady N]

ningependa EAC iwepo bila Kenya; mimi nawaona hawa ni wezi tu; majirani wanaotuangalia kwa jicho la Husda. Wa Tz tuweni macho na hawa jamaa; Nasikia walishawahi kujitangangazia Mt.Kill upo Naii.

Let's make their life miserable here in Tz.

these people are unpredictable and heartless as well my dia, they may make u'r life miserable in u'r country if they get the chance.

 

[Abdulhalim]

Nina ghadhabu sana ngojea nikatafute scotch..

 

[Smatta]

these people are unpredictable and heartless as well my dia, they may make u'r life miserable in u'r country if they get the chance.

stereotyping, you really dont know what you are talking about.

 

[Malyamungu]

Ndugu zanguni, msiogope MCHAKATO WA hii EAC.

Katika mazingira yeyote yale TZ ndio tutawaongoza na ndio maana wanatulilia.

Kwanza nchi yetu ni kubwa kuliko zao.

Pili idadi yetu ni kubwa kuliko wao.

Tatu kisiasa tumejipanga vizuri zaidi kuliko wao.

Nne tunakubaliana sana wenyewe kwa wenyewe licha ya tofauti za makabila kuliko wao.

Tano sauti yetu ndio kubwa kuliko wao, angalia tulivyochelewesha mpango mzima mpaka hapa tulipo fikia kwani wao walitaka mambo yote yatokee kwa mwaka mmoja tu bila kupanga mikakati.

Sita, wanajua kuwa wao wanatuhitaji zaidi kuliko tunavyowahitaji hivyo ikiwa mambo yatakwenda mrama kwetu kuuvunja huo muungano ni jambo la siku moja tu. Tulishawahi kufanya hivyo si wageni wa hilo. Hii inawafanya wao wawe na tahadhari kabisa.

Saba tunaongoza katika hali ya hewa nzuri, ardhi nzuri katika kilimo, madini, misitu, maji (mito, maziwa, bahari) na hata watalii huongezeka kuja TZ mwaka hata mwaka huku Kenya iliyokuwa ikiongoza kwa watalii leo wanapungua. Sasa mnahitaji nini zaidi!

Hivyo napenda kuwatoeni wasi wasi kabisa kuwa mambo yatakuwa shwari. La msingi hapa ni kwa Watanzania kila mmoja wetu kuchukua nafasi kama kiongozi popote pale alipo. Uongozi, ninamaana kuwajibika na kuwa mstari wa mbele katika ubunifu na utendaji wa kazi ambao ndio utamuwezesha mtanzania kuwa na uchumi bora.

Kwa maneno mengine, pengine ningesema kuwa - kila mtanzania lazima aichukulie nafasi hii kama positive katika kukuza uchumi wake binafsi na kuacha kukaa vijiweni na kulalamika kuwa wanakuja kuchukua mali zetu, kwani wewe uko wapi? Huu ndio utandawazi hatuwezi kuuzuia, kilichopo ni kuvua nguo na kuogelea katika bahari hiyo.

Big up Ngoda, but one thing is that our leaders should prove to us that 'kilimo kwanza' will exist and remain sustainable. Which means that fund is enough and available to retain its sustainability. These guests are coming for many major reasons mainly one is food or agricultural activities knowing that unarrable land they owned wont produce much as ours regarding that they need to consume much as the population grow so many mouths needed to be fed.

Many Tanzanians are rural residents and many aredependants on small scale, either food or cash crops producers. For so many decades past they have being depended by their families on these type of production for different surviving.

Bwana Ngoda hapa comes a very easy question: is their going to be a sustainable security pindi kiangazi kinatokea na wakulima wapate "stimulus plan" kama ilivyotokea kwa wafanyabiasara wakati wa kuanguka kwa uchumi wa dunia? au hizo semi za kilimo kwanza ni kwa ajili ya CCM kupata kura:? Let us talk strategically.

 

[Bantugbro]

Nchi nd'o ishauzwa hivyo na hawa mafisadi....:sad:

Mkuu, naomba uunganishe hii thread na ile nyingine ya EAC naona zinatuchanganya hapa wakati wa kupost..

 

[Mokoyo]

Nawashangaa wanaosema kuwa Watanzania tunaogopa changamoto za kujiunga katika soko la pamoja. Sio kuogopa ila ni jinsi serikali yetu inavyoendesha mambo na kuthamini watu wa nje kuliko wa ndani ndio hapo binafsi napata shida. Kwamfano kwenye suala la Ardhi ni tabu tupu maana land administartion yetu iko poor sana na imeingiliwa sana na siasa kiasi kwamba wananchi wa kawaida tu kupata access ni tabu kubwa na wakipaata hiyo access kuna watu wenye uwezo wa kuja kuichukua muda wowote kwa kile kinachoitwa maslahi ya umma. Sasa huu umma ni akina nani kama siyo Watnzania hawa. Na hii ipo hata kwenye biashara ndogo ndogo kwa wafanyabiashara kubanwa mbavu na kupoteza pumzi zao kiasi cha kushindwa kuwa wabunifu. Serikali iwe makini na kuwalinda wakulima na wafanyabiashara wadogo wadogo vinginevyo hili soko linaweza kuwa neema ya wenzetu na laana kwetu

 

[shytnis]

these people are unpredictable and heartless as well my dia, they may make u'r life miserable in u'r country if they get the chance.

WHAT'S THA FUSS AND HATRED WATU. KWANI WAKENYA NDIO NANI????
THE MORE YOU HATE ON THEM THE MORE YOU SHOW THEM HOW YOU ARE SCARED OF THEM.
KWANI WATANZANIA HAWAWEZI MAMBO WANAYOWEZA WAKENYA.

AS PER NOW, IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM JOIN THEM!!!!!😡😡😡

 

[Drifter]

Sijaelewa ni nini kinamiss kwene taifa letu ambacho hii EAC italeta..Sijawahi kujibiwa popote. Ukiuliza utaambiwa aah umoja ni nguvu..kana kwamba umoja huleta maendeleo bila kufanya kazi na kuwa wabunifu na kujitegemea sisi wenyewe.

Nafikiri tumekosa motisha ya ushindani (motivation for competition) na uzalendo. Hivyo Common Market yaweza kuwa msaada kutuamsha kushindana kikamilifu hasa katika fani za ajira na biashara. Aidha, itatufungua macho kutokubali serikali isiyo na mikakati ya kusimamia rasilimali na maslahi ya nchi; serikali inayonunuliwa kirahisirahisi na wageni na kuachia kila kitu kwa manufaa uchwara (peanuts) ya viongozi na familia zao. The EAC Common Market could be the "big shake-up" we've been waiting for to finally act and get rid of the culture of mediocrity ingrained in our society by CCM for decades now.

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

You mean even the moderator has deteriorated to Kanyabwoya's level? Dint expect this from you homes, thought you knew us and our struggles better, but haidhuru, we coming there in droves and y'all know that for a fact, so stop dragging your feet and lets work together.

Smatta,

I believe you know what Im talking about. The ordinary Kenyan is a good fella to an extent but your
leaders are nothing but a bunch of thieves...and you know that! Just yesterday they 'robbed' the taxpayers by unanimously increasing their salaries to almost a million KSH per month. What do you say about that? These are the same people who will be fronting Kenya's interests so to speak.

Your Minister of Trade, Hon. Kimunya, mislead the Parliament and the whole country when it came to the
deal that saw the Grand Regency sold to the Libyans. Uhuru Kenyatta, your Minister of Finance is a son of
the biggest thief in Kenya AKA Jomo Kenyatta and as we know the fruit doesnt fall far from the tree. You
want me to go on?

These gang of thieves are coming to link up with another set of thieves in Tanzania to steal from the
common folk under the guise of EAC. Sio siri everbody knows it. Nashangaa mnashabiikia kuja Tanzania
yet I dont see the same zeal towards going to Uganda or is it coz M-7 has a strangle hold on matters over
there?

Just like Abdulhalim, we have asked a gazilion times how is this thing going to benefit the common folk
yet grand corruption continues unchecked while bleeding the commoners mercillessly of their resources?
Who has jurisdiction over corruption within these countries? As individual countries we have not tackled
this vice yet here we are hurrying up to create this humongous entity yet the ground work has not been
laid down? I mean, by the time you turn the corner to address these kinda issues the coffers will have
been emptied and the thieves will be laughing themselves to the banks.

The political institution of Democracy, which is an important tenet when it comes to these issues, still hangs in tatters..fragility not withstanding. Museveni is a dictator up north and how do you justify uniting with this fool who has bloody hands? Kagame on the other side is handling a very fragile country and we know his days are numbered mainly becasue M-7 is supporting a change in regime over there. How do you sit these two people on a table? How do you address the issue of arms coming through the Port of Mombasa to M-7 and then by extension to the dissenters of Kagame's regime? Hiki ni kidonda kilichooza na mnataka kukitia band aid mkisema eti mgonjwa atapona.That is ridiculous!!

Until you have democraticlly elected Govts that represent the people with all truthfulness and fairness,
this thing being pursued is a fleeting illusion that cant be attained as it is intended. The intentions are noble but the reality is far from the truth.

Regards.

 

[The Quonquerer]

WHAT'S THA FUSS AND HATRED WATU. KWANI WAKENYA NDIO NANI????
THE MORE YOU HATE ON THEM THE MORE YOU SHOW THEM HOW YOU ARE SCARED OF THEM.
KWANI WATANZANIA HAWAWEZI MAMBO WANAYOWEZA WAKENYA.

AS PER NOW, IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM JOIN THEM!!!!!😡😡😡

Hakunha mtu anayewaogopa. Suala ni kwamba, wao watakuja nje ya utaratibu wa makubaliano yaliyomo kwenye CM. Kwenye hilo soko la pamoja, kuna kazi zinahitajika na nyingine hazitakiwi, lakini wao tafsiri yao ni tofauti. The East African yao mpaka inaandika kuwa work permits zimekuwa abloshed walivyokuwa na akili fupi. Ujue kuwa Smatta anasema kuwa vibali vyote wanavitengenezea kwao na hii ni sahihi, maana hapa ni Afrika. hata hivyo, hizo kazi wanazozikimbilia ziko wapi? Mdau mmoja amesema ni za kulenga kwa manati. Sasa unadhani ni kitu gani wanakuwa excited nacho zaidi ya illegality in every area??? lakini itakula kwao! Ni aibu kufurahia kuwa illegal alien but we will see. Unategemea nini kuongozwa na majuha, ya ndani yamewashinda itakuwa hilo. Amani wanayosema wanaidumisha wameiharibu mara nyingi lakini waTZ wamekaa kimya, na hili ni jaribio lingine la kuharibu amani. But for how long will this last.

 

[RealDeal]

What all this hate for:

these people are unpredictable and heartless as well my dia, they may make u'r life miserable in u'r country if they get the chance.

There are also people with all those qualities in TZ too, you are not angel's for god's sake. Don't you remember that your soldiers once killed over ten Kenyans, even a woman. What a shame and they were not even running away, they were forced to kneel and shot dead. Don't act holier-than-thou please.

 

[The Quonquerer]

WHAT'S THA FUSS AND HATRED WATU. KWANI WAKENYA NDIO NANI????
THE MORE YOU HATE ON THEM THE MORE YOU SHOW THEM HOW YOU ARE SCARED OF THEM.
KWANI WATANZANIA HAWAWEZI MAMBO WANAYOWEZA WAKENYA.

AS PER NOW, IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM JOIN THEM!!!!!😡😡😡

Kwa nini wana-round up waethiopia na wasomali kila siku na kuwafunga na kuwarudisha kwao? wakenya are equally illegal, hawana tofauti, and maybe worse, kama hivyo na nao wawaache tuishi hivyo hivyo kiholela. Au kwa kuwa waethiopia ni njaa kali hawawezi kutoa rushwa uhamiaji kama wanavyofanya nyang'au kwa ajili ya vikazi wanavyofanya illegally! Smatta anafurahia kuwa mhamiaji haramu Tanzania, who is at disadvantage then? :lying: Hii Common Market haina jipya, nimeisoma na yule alien anayefurahia, ni kuitumia kama chambo kuhalalisha uharamu wake.

 

[The Quonquerer]

What all this hate for:


There are also people with all those qualities in TZ too, you are not angel's for god's sake. Don't you remember that your soldiers once killed over ten Kenyans, even a woman. What a shame and they were not even running away, they were forced to kneel and shot dead. Don't act holier-than-thou please.

Those Kimanis, Gitau and Njugunas. eeh Gikuyu bandits? Those Kenyans thugs who were gunned down in Moshi while robbying a bank? That's was an 'introduction', the following 'chapters' are coming now!

 

[Tata]

ningependa EAC iwepo bila Kenya; mimi nawaona hawa ni wezi tu; majirani wanaotuangalia kwa jicho la Husda. Wa Tz tuweni macho na hawa jamaa; Nasikia walishawahi kujitangangazia Mt.Kill upo Naii.

Let's make their life miserable here in Tz.

Hii inaitwa stereotyping. Siyo kweli kuwa wakenya wote ni wezi kama unavyotaka tuamini. Na siyo kweli kuwa watanzania wote ni waadilifu. Mimi nadhani sasa ni wakati muafaka wa kuwa washiriki kamili kwenye EAC na siyo kuendelea kulalama kuhusu mara wakenya, wanyarwanda, waganda etc.

Kwa wale watanzania ambao bado mnasubiri kuulizwa maoni yenu kama mpo tayari au la naomba mjikumbushe jinsi muungano wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar ulivyoanza. Je kuna kura ya maoni ilipigwa na watanganyika au wazanzibar kuruhusu huu muungano?

It's high time Tanzanians woke up from a deep slumber.