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Mwapachu: EAC free movement underway

By Patrick Kisembo

EAC secretary general ambassador Juma Mwapachu talks with reporters in Arusha yesterday.​

Free movement of people in the East African Community (EAC) partner states will start only when the five EAC member states introduce third generation (machine readable) identity cards, according to EAC secretary general ambassador Juma Mwapachu.

Ambassador Mwapachu told reporters in Arusha yesterday on the occasion to mark the official commencement of the EAC Common Market today that so far, only Rwanda had such IDs in use and that Kenya was about to introduce them this month.

“Tanzania and Uganda are in the process of introducing their IDs as well. Burundi will follow later,” he said.

He noted further that for a broad section of EAC ordinary citizens, free movement would start from July 1 (today).

“This is the issue the Partner States have to elaborate. Suffice to state that citizens of the EAC region have enjoyed free movement across their borders for years,” he explained.

The secretary general noted that national passports and EAC travel documents were accepted and respected at border points without a visa requirement and a six-month stay each time the entry was offered without any hassle.

“This free movement will be further facilitated when all the five Partner States introduce third generation (machine readable) identity cards,” he said.

He said free movement of labour was a key aspect in promoting human capacity in the EAC region for social and economic transformation. Mwapachu noted that it was important for the EAC Partner States to work out quickly the modalities for enabling such free movement to take effect.

“A word of appreciation to Rwanda and Kenya is deserved for leading the elimination of work permits at a bilateral level between them. In the case of Rwanda, the elimination of work permits is extended to all citizens of EAC Partner States,” he said.

Mwapachu explained that elimination of work permits, wholly or partially, was the conclusion of the mutual recognition of academic and professional qualifications.

He said the EAC, through its institution, the Inter-University Council of East Africa, had reached an advanced stage in setting up a mechanism through quality assurance that would form the basis for determining such mutual recognition.

The secretary general said a related issue was mutual recognition of accreditation of higher education institutions, which would remove the regulatory requirement of tertiary education institutions moving across borders applying for fresh accreditation.

“It should also be mentioned that the EAC is working towards the harmonisation of social security benefits to support the free movement of labour. EAC Partner States are already at an advanced negotiating stage in this area,” he noted.

However, he said regarding challenges in the services sector, the entry of the Common Market Protocol would provide an impetus to the already thriving cross-border services industry. The impetus would largely lie in creating empowering conditions at the level of the Partner States for the services sector to be scaled up and made more robust and buoyant.

“But the EAC region needs not only a “free skies” agreement but also deeper liberalisation of air transport operations to bring down costs of passenger and cargo transportation, which are currently too high,” he said.

He cited another example of challenges as the securities market, which was yet to be “regionalised”.
He said, for example, the capital account was yet to be sufficiently liberalised by Tanzania to enable Tanzanians participate outside the present framework of cross-listing of market shares at national level.

“Removal of restrictions on capital flows should serve as a catalyst for capital market development and the provision of long-term and risk capital most needed to spur economic development,” he explained.

Another challenge was the regulatory framework for cross-border television broadcasting, which he noted was still stringent. He said this needed to be further liberalised to promote competing regional networks.

He said there was significant cross-border tertiary education access and tuition fees, even in public universities, which were also yet to be harmonised in spite of decisions having been taken at the EAC level requiring charging of similar fee rates.

“But the cross-cutting challenge of work permits, which underlie the effectiveness of the services sector needs to be frontally addressed,” Mwapachu noted, adding: “You cannot realise the full benefits of free movement of professionals under the services sector when labour market policies and laws stand in the way of such freedom.”



SOURCE: THE GUARDIAN

 

[Steve Dii]

hahahahahaha... wacha nitafute link nikueleze jinsi kibaki alisema... hamwezi fanya chochote, hii ni gumzo tu kama ya pale kijiweni, you can do nothing. Ingekuwa Mkenya anatoa hilo tisho, ninge gwaya kidogo, lakini mbongo, wala siogopi.

duuh, kinda funny, but has truth in it. That notwithstanding, an acceptance of ruthlessness on part of the Kenyans is also true ndani ya nadharia hiyohiyo!

 

[The Quonquerer]

Hii inaitwa stereotyping. Siyo kweli kuwa wakenya wote ni wezi kama unavyotaka tuamini. Na siyo kweli kuwa watanzania wote ni waadilifu. Mimi nadhani sasa ni wakati muafaka wa kuwa washiriki kamili kwenye EAC na siyo kuendelea kulalama kuhusu mara wakenya, wanyarwanda, waganda etc.

Kwa wale watanzania ambao bado mnasubiri kuulizwa maoni yenu kama mpo tayari au la naomba mjikumbushe jinsi muungano wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar ulivyoanza. Je kuna kura ya maoni ilipigwa na watanganyika au wazanzibar kuruhusu huu muungano?

It's high time Tanzanians woke up from a deep slumber.

Na je hakuna tatizo lolote juu ya Muungano, kama ndivyo miafaka ya nini? Hawakuulizwa, labda walikuwa wanapenda hivyo lakini huo Muungano bado upo mpaka leo. Lakini EAC ya kwanza ilidumu miaka mingapi? Kwani maoni ya watanzania yalikuwaje kuhusu hili shirikisho, si kwamba karibia 80% walikataa, na kama ndivyo, isn't this bullcrap being imposed on them. If, is it lasting advsnture really, so you think?

 

[RealDeal]

Hii inaitwa stereotyping. Siyo kweli kuwa wakenya wote ni wezi kama unavyotaka tuamini. Na siyo kweli kuwa watanzania wote ni waadilifu. Mimi nadhani sasa ni wakati muafaka wa kuwa washiriki kamili kwenye EAC na siyo kuendelea kulalama kuhusu mara wakenya, wanyarwanda, waganda etc.

Kwa wale watanzania ambao bado mnasubiri kuulizwa maoni yenu kama mpo tayari au la naomba mjikumbushe jinsi muungano wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar ulivyoanza. Je kuna kura ya maoni ilipigwa na watanganyika au wazanzibar kuruhusu huu muungano?

It's high time Tanzanians woke up from a deep slumber.

Yeah, this is what i've been waiting to hear all along. At least, one sensible guy from TZ. In fact we don't have to rant so much , what is needed is to be optimistic, well, that is if you r expected to gain or not. Actually, there will be those that will gain immensely and others lose, immensely. But this can apply either way, to Kenya or TZ. You don't have to stereotype Kenyans of anything and everything: sijui they are thiefs.. blah ... blah... blah... those are aspects you'll never lack in ANY society. So Tanzanians, this is a chance to prove that you can also compete and emerge successfully, YES U CAN:A S thumbs_up:.

 

[Tata]

Sijaelewa ni nini kinamiss kwene taifa letu ambacho hii EAC italeta..Sijawahi kujibiwa popote. Ukiuliza utaambiwa aah umoja ni nguvu..kana kwamba umoja huleta maendeleo bila kufanya kazi na kuwa wabunifu na kujitegemea sisi wenyewe.

Nini kina miss kwenye taifa letu? Naweza kukumbuka machache yafuatayo kwa haraka haraka:

1. Democracy - Tanzania bado one party state na wanacnhi hawana sauti kwenye maamuzi ya nchi.
2. Utawala bora - Uongozi mbovu wa kifisadi ambao unajali maslahi binafsi zaidi ya maslahi ya nchi.
3. Elimu - nchi imejaa wajinga ambao hawajui haki zao na wanaendelea kujazwa ujinga kila siku. Kinachotolewa sasa hivi ni bora elimu na siyo elimu bora.
4. Umaskini - Nchi imejaa umaskini na wananchi pamoja na kuwa in raslimali nyingi zinazoibwa na viongozi wakishirikiana na wawekezaji wazungu (na wala siyo wakenya).
5. Uadilifu - Wanaofanikiwa sana nchi hii katika nyanja zote ni watu wasio waadilifu na matokeo yake tunaona ufisadi katika siasa, elimu, afya, ulinzi wa raia, etc.
6. Uzalendo - Hakuna uzalendo kwa wananchi na hakuna mtu ambaye yuko tayari kujitoa mhanga kwa maendeleo ya nchi. Wasomi wamegeuka kuwa wasaliti na matokeo yake wameungana na wezi wengine kuanzisha genge kubwa la wizi ambalo kwa bahati mbaya ndilo linalotawala nchi kwa sasa.
7. Kujiamini - Kwa wananchi hata wale ambao wanaitwa wasomi wa Tanzania. Hii inachangiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na elimu duni na ushahidi ni maoni yanayotolewa kwenye forum kuhusu Tanzania kujiunga na EAC. Yamejaa woga na kutokujiamini.
8. ...

Nikikumbuka mengine zaidi nitaongeza kwenye orodha.

 

[RealDeal]

Those Kimanis, Gitau and Njugunas. eeh Gikuyu bandits? Those Kenyans thugs who were gunned down in Moshi while robbying a bank? That's was an 'introduction', the following 'chapters' are coming now!

You talk like you were squeezin the trigger.

 

[The Quonquerer]

You talk like you were squeezin the trigger.

No, ni vyombo vya dola! Mimi ni raia tu. The worse is yet to come.

 

[Tata]

Na je hakuna tatizo lolote juu ya Muungano, kama ndivyo miafaka ya nini? Hawakuulizwa, labda walikuwa wanapenda hivyo lakini huo Muungano bado upo mpaka leo. Lakini EAC ya kwanza ilidumu miaka mingapi? Kwani maoni ya watanzania yalikuwaje kuhusu hili shirikisho, si kwamba karibia 80% walikataa, na kama ndivyo, isn't this bullcrap being imposed on them. If, is it lasting advsnture really, so you think?

Hata kama wangeulizwa bado kungekuwa na matatizo na hili ni jambo la kawaida kwa muungano wowote. Sasa kama hawakuulizwa na muungano upo mpaka leo basi bila shaka na EAC itadumu kwa muda mrefu ujao pamoja na kuwa baadhi ya watanzania wanasita kujiunga. Na bila shaka kama ilivyo miungano mingine kutakuwa na matatizo kwenye huu wa EAC lakini hii haiwezi kuwa hoja ya msingi ya kutokuingia kwenye muungano huu.

Kuhusu watanzania kuulizwa na asilimia 80% wakakataa napenda kukukumbusha kuwa waliulizwa kuhusu endapo EAC iharakishwe (fast tracked) au la na siyo endapo tujiunge kwenye EAC au la.

Hata kwenye vyama vingi tuliambiwa kuwa watanzania waliulizwa na asilimia 80% wakakataa lakini mpaka leo tuna kinachoitwa mfumo wa vyama vingi. Hivyo kukataa kwa asilimia 80% ya watanzania haikuwa hoja ya msingi kwa viongozi katika kufanya maamuzi.

 

[The Quonquerer]

Nini kina miss kwenye taifa letu? Naweza kukumbuka machache yafuatayo kwa haraka haraka:

1. Democracy - Tanzania bado one party state na wanacnhi hawana sauti kwenye maamuzi ya nchi.
2. Utawala bora - Uongozi mbovu wa kifisadi ambao unajali maslahi binafsi zaidi ya maslahi ya nchi.
3. Elimu - nchi imejaa wajinga ambao hawajui haki zao na wanaendelea kujazwa ujinga kila siku. Kinachotolewa sasa hivi ni bora elimu na siyo elimu bora.
4. Umaskini - Nchi imejaa umaskini na wananchi pamoja na kuwa in raslimali nyingi zinazoibwa na viongozi wakishirikiana na wawekezaji wazungu (na wala siyo wakenya).
5. Uadilifu - Wanaofanikiwa sana nchi hii katika nyanja zote ni watu wasio waadilifu na matokeo yake tunaona ufisadi katika siasa, elimu, afya, ulinzi wa raia, etc.
6. Uzalendo - Hakuna uzalendo kwa wananchi na hakuna mtu ambaye yuko tayari kujitoa mhanga kwa maendeleo ya nchi. Wasomi wamegeuka kuwa wasaliti na matokeo yake wameungana na wezi wengine kuanzisha genge kubwa la wizi ambalo kwa bahati mbaya ndilo linalotawala nchi kwa sasa.
7. Kujiamini - Kwa wananchi hata wale ambao wanaitwa wasomi wa Tanzania. Hii inachangiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na elimu duni na ushahidi ni maoni yanayotolewa kwenye forum kuhusu Tanzania kujiunga na EAC. Yamejaa woga na kutokujiamini.
8. ...

Nikikumbuka mengine zaidi nitaongeza kwenye orodha.

Eti wazungu na siyo wakenya..jibu ni foreigners wenye vested interests na nchii hii, predators wanaoneyemelea kuchuma na kuondoka wakishirikiana na wara rushwa wa hapa hapa. Kwa hiyo wahindi na wachina wao kinachowaweka hapa ni nini?. Ukisema hivyo, ni ubaguzi wa rangi, mbaya wakenya wao wameingilia kwenye maslahi ya mlalahoi, ajira na ardhi vya mtanzania na hapo patachimbika tu. Mwizi hana rangi wala kabila, habari ndiyo hiyo!

 

[Koba]

Nina ghadhabu sana ngojea nikatafute scotch..

...si ukufe tuu unangoja nini.

 

[Abdulhalim]

Nini kina miss kwenye taifa letu? Naweza kukumbuka machache yafuatayo kwa haraka haraka:

1. Democracy - Tanzania bado one party state na wanacnhi hawana sauti kwenye maamuzi ya nchi.
2. Utawala bora - Uongozi mbovu wa kifisadi ambao unajali maslahi binafsi zaidi ya maslahi ya nchi.
3. Elimu - nchi imejaa wajinga ambao hawajui haki zao na wanaendelea kujazwa ujinga kila siku. Kinachotolewa sasa hivi ni bora elimu na siyo elimu bora.
4. Umaskini - Nchi imejaa umaskini na wananchi pamoja na kuwa in raslimali nyingi zinazoibwa na viongozi wakishirikiana na wawekezaji wazungu (na wala siyo wakenya).
5. Uadilifu - Wanaofanikiwa sana nchi hii katika nyanja zote ni watu wasio waadilifu na matokeo yake tunaona ufisadi katika siasa, elimu, afya, ulinzi wa raia, etc.
6. Uzalendo - Hakuna uzalendo kwa wananchi na hakuna mtu ambaye yuko tayari kujitoa mhanga kwa maendeleo ya nchi. Wasomi wamegeuka kuwa wasaliti na matokeo yake wameungana na wezi wengine kuanzisha genge kubwa la wizi ambalo kwa bahati mbaya ndilo linalotawala nchi kwa sasa.
7. Kujiamini - Kwa wananchi hata wale ambao wanaitwa wasomi wa Tanzania. Hii inachangiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na elimu duni na ushahidi ni maoni yanayotolewa kwenye forum kuhusu Tanzania kujiunga na EAC. Yamejaa woga na kutokujiamini.
8. ...

Nikikumbuka mengine zaidi nitaongeza kwenye orodha.

Sijaelewa hapa, r u trying to be sarcastic or rather u need to troubleshoot ur reasoning & understanding..Nasema haya kwa sababu sielewi ni kwa vipi hayo matatizo kwene list yako yatakuwa addressed na EAC.

 

[Zawadi Ngoda]

Big up Ngoda, but one thing is that our leaders should prove to us that 'kilimo kwanza' will exist and remain sustainable. Which means that fund is enough and available to retain its sustainability. These guests are coming for many major reasons mainly one is food or agricultural activities knowing that unarrable land they owned wont produce much as ours regarding that they need to consume much as the population grow so many mouths needed to be fed.

Many Tanzanians are rural residents and many aredependants on small scale, either food or cash crops producers. For so many decades past they have being depended by their families on these type of production for different surviving.

Bwana Ngoda hapa comes a very easy question: is their going to be a sustainable security pindi kiangazi kinatokea na wakulima wapate "stimulus plan" kama ilivyotokea kwa wafanyabiasara wakati wa kuanguka kwa uchumi wa dunia? au hizo semi za kilimo kwanza ni kwa ajili ya CCM kupata kura:? Let us talk strategically.

Unajua hapa hakuna ujanja, kama CCM inapenda au haipendi wkulima lazima wapate stimulans. Kwa sababu, angalia Nchi yetu inapata 5% ya GDP yake toka katika viwanda. Na inapata zaidi ya 75% ya GDP toka katika kilimo. Sasa hapa si suala la kupenda au si kupenda ni lazima wafanye hivyo japo hata kwa kuvizia Kura za ubunge na urais.

Usalama: Ni muhimu kwa pesa itayopatikana kutokana na kujiunga na EAC kuwekeza katika polisi ili tusiwape Chance hao wakenya watakao kufikiri au Kuchukulia Tanzania kama Kenya.

Jamani wakenya nawafahamu vizuri sana, ni watu wasio na umoja kabisa ila ni mapapet wa wazungu sana na ni mandume la kuwili.

Tena Mnapozungumzia 'Wakenya' kama mnavyowaeleza hapa katika mtandao, ukweli ni kwamba mnaelezea 'WAKIKUYU' . Tatizo lililopo ndani ya Kenya si kwamba wakikuyu kwa asili ni wakorofi, bali serikali ya Kenya imewapa Wakikuyu upendeleo wa pekee katika nyanja zote. Toka elimu, biashara, siasa n.k. just name it. Wakitolewa hizo kinga Wakikuyu hawawezi ushindani.

Kinga za namna hiyo hawawezi wakazipata Tanzania, na ndio maana nawatoeni wasi wasi, kuwa pamoja na udhaifu wa viongozi wetu lakini kamwe hawawezi kuachia nchi milele mikononi mwa Wakikuyu. NA WAO HILO WANALIFAHAMU, kama ambavyo hatukuiachia nchi kwa Warundi japo kuwa idadi yao ya wakimbizi nchini karibu sawa na ile ya Uganda.

Wakenya (Wakikuyu) hawatakipata kile kilichomo katika ndoto zao, bali kitachofanyika ni kulijenga taifa la Tanzania kwa kuwapata walipa kodi zaidi.

 

[Koba]

Na je hakuna tatizo lolote juu ya Muungano, kama ndivyo miafaka ya nini? Hawakuulizwa, labda walikuwa wanapenda hivyo lakini huo Muungano bado upo mpaka leo. Lakini EAC ya kwanza ilidumu miaka mingapi? Kwani maoni ya watanzania yalikuwaje kuhusu hili shirikisho, si kwamba karibia 80% walikataa, na kama ndivyo, isn't this bullcrap being imposed on them. If, is it lasting advsnture really, so you think?

..that debate is over,sasa dont waste your/our time ,EA is here na hakuna kitu utafanya zaidi ya makelele yako humu,let wanaume na wenye akili take advantage of this thing EA,movement of labour is limitless as long as you belong in one of these nations utaweza kufanya kazi popote na yeyote you dont have to be professional,na mkicheza hata zile kazi considered dirty and low kwa wa TZ mtazikosa maana wenzenu watakuja watazifanya in more professional way/cheaper and high quality,get yourself ready for the really competition maana capitalism doesnt speak your idiot nationalism language,today is the good day indeed and the next generations will thank us for this.

 

[RealDeal]

Eti wazungu na siyo wakenya..jibu ni foreigners wenye vested interests na nchii hii, predators wanaoneyemelea kuchuma na kuondoka wakishirikiana na wara rushwa wa hapa hapa. Kwa hiyo wahindi na wachina wao kinachowaweka hapa ni nini?. Ukisema hivyo, ni ubaguzi wa rangi, mbaya wakenya wao wameingilia kwenye maslahi ya mlalahoi, ajira na ardhi vya mtanzania na hapo patachimbika tu. Mwizi hana rangi wala kabila, habari ndiyo hiyo!

Sasa wewe nikuulize, unadhani Marekani au ulaya ndio hamna waafrika au hata watu kutoka nchi zingine. The fact is that nobody can exist alone, whatever race you are everyone needs the other. It's even like you are saying that you don't need any kind of trade going on between you and other countries sababu eti YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED. You are LOST. UG needs TZ and TZ needs Kenya or whichever way you deem best and necessary to suit you. What is needed is to take advantage of the EAC to benefit yourself, not to try to hinder others from benefiting because you don't have ideas of how to gain altogether.

ps: I think that signature is not relevant anymore, just do away with it.

 

[Koba]

Sasa wewe nikuulize, unadhani Marekani au ulaya ndio hamna waafrika au hata watu kutoka nchi zingine. The fact is that nobody can exist alone, whatever race you are everyone needs the other. It's even like you are saying that you don't need any kind of trade going on between you and other countries sababu eti YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED. You are LOST. UG needs TZ and TZ needs Kenya or whichever way you deem best and necessary to suit you. What is needed is to take advantage of the EAC to benefit yourself, not to try to hinder others from benefiting because you don't have ideas of how to gain altogether.

ps: I think that signature is not relevant anymore, just do away with it.

..dont waste time na huyo kanyabonya know nothing still living in 1800s,hana idea whats goin on anaimba nchi nchi yetu land land land maharagwe unga everyday lakini doesnt even understand it,we need to go hard on these people la sivyo will hold us back,kanyaboya tutakuburuza tuu hata kama hutaki

 

[RealDeal]

Jamani wakenya nawafahamu vizuri sana, ni watu wasio na umoja kabisa ila ni mapapet wa wazungu sana na ni mandume la kuwili.

Tena Mnapozungumzia 'Wakenya' kama mnavyowaeleza hapa katika mtandao, ukweli ni kwamba mnaelezea 'WAKIKUYU' . Tatizo lililopo ndani ya Kenya si kwamba wakikuyu kwa asili ni wakorofi, bali serikali ya Kenya imewapa Wakikuyu upendeleo wa pekee katika nyanja zote. Toka elimu, biashara, siasa n.k. just name it. Wakitolewa hizo kinga Wakikuyu hawawezi ushindani.

Kinga za namna hiyo hawawezi wakazipata Tanzania, na ndio maana nawatoeni wasi wasi, kuwa pamoja na udhaifu wa viongozi wetu lakini kamwe hawawezi kuachia nchi milele mikononi mwa Wakikuyu. NA WAO HILO WANALIFAHAMU, kama ambavyo hatukuiachia nchi kwa Warundi japo kuwa idadi yao ya wakimbizi nchini karibu sawa na ile ya Uganda.

Wakenya (Wakikuyu) hawatakipata kile kilichomo katika ndoto zao, bali kitachofanyika ni kulijenga taifa la Tanzania kwa kuwapata walipa kodi zaidi.

The most useless comment i have ever come across, and in fact, YOU ARE DUMB.
Eti Wakikuyu wamepewa nini zaidi ya wakenya wengine?? Wewe, let's not even get there. Man, you just displayed your foolishness to the whole of the forum. You are just the perfect example of a literate catachrestic, a learned fool. Shame.

 

[Smatta]

Unajua hapa hakuna ujanja, kama CCM inapenda au haipendi wkulima lazima wapate stimulans. Kwa sababu, angalia Nchi yetu inapata 5% ya GDP yake toka katika viwanda. Na inapata zaidi ya 75% ya GDP toka katika kilimo. Sasa hapa si suala la kupenda au si kupenda ni lazima wafanye hivyo japo hata kwa kuvizia Kura za ubunge na urais.

Usalama: Ni muhimu kwa pesa itayopatikana kutokana na kujiunga na EAC kuwekeza katika polisi ili tusiwape Chance hao wakenya watakao kufikiri au Kuchukulia Tanzania kama Kenya.

Jamani wakenya nawafahamu vizuri sana, ni watu wasio na umoja kabisa ila ni mapapet wa wazungu sana na ni mandume la kuwili.

Tena Mnapozungumzia 'Wakenya' kama mnavyowaeleza hapa katika mtandao, ukweli ni kwamba mnaelezea 'WAKIKUYU' . Tatizo lililopo ndani ya Kenya si kwamba wakikuyu kwa asili ni wakorofi, bali serikali ya Kenya imewapa Wakikuyu upendeleo wa pekee katika nyanja zote. Toka elimu, biashara, siasa n.k. just name it. Wakitolewa hizo kinga Wakikuyu hawawezi ushindani.

Kinga za namna hiyo hawawezi wakazipata Tanzania, na ndio maana nawatoeni wasi wasi, kuwa pamoja na udhaifu wa viongozi wetu lakini kamwe hawawezi kuachia nchi milele mikononi mwa Wakikuyu. NA WAO HILO WANALIFAHAMU, kama ambavyo hatukuiachia nchi kwa Warundi japo kuwa idadi yao ya wakimbizi nchini karibu sawa na ile ya Uganda.

Wakenya (Wakikuyu) hawatakipata kile kilichomo katika ndoto zao, bali kitachofanyika ni kulijenga taifa la Tanzania kwa kuwapata walipa kodi zaidi.

OMG you are such a douche bag ? Thats the dumbest comment ive ever read, think ive lost some brain cells trying to decipher that crap you've posted, its obvious you are not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but you should know better than try and use that divide and conquer statement on us, we are all Kenyans you tard, and if you have problems with us say it, dont bring that crap of some of them are good but this tribe is bad,thinking you sound intelligent and might get support from some of us, take that crap somewhere else you tool.
at times we might fight against each other, but we'll burn this b*tch down if you get us pissed-tupac shakur

 

[moyo]

ningependa EAC iwepo bila Kenya; mimi nawaona hawa ni wezi tu; majirani wanaotuangalia kwa jicho la Husda. Wa Tz tuweni macho na hawa jamaa; Nasikia walishawahi kujitangangazia Mt.Kill upo Naii.

Let's make their life miserable here in Tz.

You sound miserable and brainless,without Kenya their will be no EAC,for five years now we have allowed free access of goods from the rest of EAC countries duty free and we have not complained at all.Continue to cry and there is nothing you gonna do,it is either you wake up and prove what you are worth or shut up.If you allow me to use fmr nigerian presiden Obasanjo's words in a TV interview on K24"if the Kenyan Elephant coughs, the rest of East Africa catches a cold".We were born to do great exploits and EAC is now our play ground,with DRC,Malawi and Zambia as our neighbors.WAKE UP!WAKE UP! na uwache wivu.

 

[Rufiji]

Kuendelea kupinga EAC ni kupoteza muda kwani it's a law of the land now. What we have to do is to create conducive environment that will enable Tanzanian's to benefit from this union. Furthermore, the government must play its part by educating the public about EAC, and what they should expect from common market protocol.

On other hand, we should alert our neighbors, in advance, that tribalsim is something of the past in our country, so if they are planning to come to Tanzania they are welcome; but, they shouldn't bring Ukabila in our country. Those who are going to defy this rule then they must be shown an exit ...

 

[JokaKuu]

..Tanzania haijaruhusu free movement of labour, na free access to land and settlement. in my opinion those two issues should be off the table. Tanzania should not compromise on that.

..pamoja na hayo serikali ya Tanzania has specified that professionals[ science teachers,...] frm EAC partners are welcome to come and work in our country.

..wa-Tanzania hawaogopi ushindani na hatupingi ushirikiano, lakini tunachokataa ni wezi, vibaka, majambazi, wafanya biashara haramu, wenye ukabila, na watu wasiokuwa na faida kwa nchi hii kujazana huku kwetu kutumia upenyo wa EAC.

NB:

..majuzi Tanzania imetoa uraia kwa wakimbizi wa Kirundi na Kisomali, but that was on our own terms. kwa hiyo, Wakenya na Wanyarwanda wanaotaka kuhamia huku Tanzania should be willing to do so on our terms.