Fake Form 34As are Popping up everywhere Raila may just have a Case

[bafuchafu]

Another Hurredly written "form 34A" Raila being demonised for talking the truth....

This is in the IEBC website wow!!

 

[bafuchafu]

Today Cord postponed its announcement for tomorrow on the direction the opposition is going to take to push this country forward and ensure No more rigging of elections in Kenya


Seems More evidence are streaming in from everywhere across the country

Fake form 34As that had been hurredly signed

The supreme court has the Authority to Remove a President from power in Kenya

SO DOES THE Senate and National assembly

We are going to have interesting days ahead Kenya

I will not support either side but am in this for the Constitution


Hope they get more than 1 million vote misplacement i think its a constitutional threshold to nullify election results and ask for a rematch....i dont know....maybe....lemmi read the Katiba

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[Muharango]

Ukisoma Kanuni ya hiyo ya Uchaguzi No. 3 na ukilinganaisha na haya Madudu ya IEBC huna budi ya kusema Walichakachukua Matokeo

Hii Karatasi ya A4 sio Fomu halali ya Namba 34A pia haina Mhuri wala Sahihi ya POs na ROs!

IEBC b

aada ya Kugundua madudu waliofanya wakaamua kuifuta!


Niseme tu kwamba baadhi ya Maofisa wa IEBC kwa kushirikiana na Maafisa wa Usalama hasa huyu (Ezra Chiloba ) wameshiriki katika Kuchakachua Matokeo ya Uchaguzi Mkuu wa Wakenya kwa Maslai yao na Jubilee ila wakumbuke hiyo ni Siasa, ni suala la muda itawatokea puani!

 

[kennedy0000]

It's not about Raila, it's about the democracy of Kenyans. Ksh 50 Billion elections yet a simple form can't be available to a polling station. And who even dared to upload that image on IEBC website for the entire world to see. That was so embarrassing and shameful.

It's about Raila 100%.
The election was that expensive because of Raila and civil society efforts. Particularly the electronic identification and transmission, which they now don't trust after losing.
Form 34As were not even supposed to come to Bomas. IEBC is making allowances for Raila and the civil society.

Over 200,000 forms for all positions, were supposed to be photographed/scanned and sent to the constituency centre and Bomas.
You think involving so many hands would go without glitches?
Dealing with thousands of presiding officers cannot go without numerous human errors. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them lost the officially provided Form 34As to fill and had to improvise.

And as the observers noted, no election is perfect.

 

[kennedy0000]

Ukisoma Kanuni ya hiyo ya Uchaguzi No. 3 na ukilinganaisha na haya Madudu ya IEBC huna budi ya kusema Walichakachukua Matokeo

Hii Karatasi ya A4 sio Fomu halali ya Namba 34A pia haina Mhuri wala Sahihi ya POs na ROs!

IEBC b

aada ya Kugundua madudu waliofanya wakaamua kuifuta!


Niseme tu kwamba baadhi ya Maofisa wa IEBC kwa kushirikiana na Maafisa wa Usalama hasa huyu (Ezra Chiloba ) wameshiriki katika Kuchakachua Matokeo ya Uchaguzi Mkuu wa Wakenya kwa Maslai yao na Jubilee ila wakumbuke hiyo ni Siasa, ni suala la muda itawatokea puani!

Sawa mkubwa. Ongeza Raila hizo kura alizopewa Uhuru hapo.
Na fanya vyema. Kila Form 34A iliyo na makosa, chukua kura zote za Uhuru umpe Raila. Ata kama polling station iko Muranga au Kiambu.
Nina uhakika Raila hataongeza zaidi ya 50,000 votes.

Ujinga ni kutaka election inayohusisha maelfu ya watu ikuwe perfect.

 

[Kafrican]

Today Cord postponed its announcement for tomorrow on the direction the opposition is going to take to push this country forward and ensure No more rigging of elections in Kenya


Seems More evidence are streaming in from everywhere across the country

Fake form 34As that had been hurredly signed

The supreme court has the Authority to Remove a President from power in Kenya

SO DOES THE Senate and National assembly

We are going to have interesting days ahead Kenya

I will not support either side but am in this for the Constitution


Hope they get more than 1 million vote misplacement i think its a constitutional threshold to nullify election results and ask for a rematch....i dont know....maybe....lemmi read the Katiba

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Mr.Sam, there is no doubt that Raila has a case , but the question is, does it reach the threshold for a nullification of the election????
The answer is we don't know, the only way we can know for sure is by Raila going to court!

Raila has said he wont go to court bcoz he will get an outcome like the last election, but surely, he must have learnt lessons frm the previous case, if he really had evidence, there is no way the courts can ignore him, besides, he dismissing the point of going to court, he doesn't necessarily have to win, he just has to present the evidence one by one, millions of Kenyans will be watching, Kenyans of all class and level, then and only then will Kenyans like me and you be able to judge for ourselves even b4 the court issues its final judgement... Even the international community might see what Raila is seeing future legitimizing his claims..
But as of right now, Raila to me looks like a sire looser willing to burn every bridge if he is not getting the top seat, only through the court can Raila legitimizes his evidence even if he doesn't win, we will know that indeed this form 32A is genuin, this one is fake, this is the log from the real server, this one is not... Then even if he doesn't win the case, we ourselves will know that what he was claiming, if it was genuine or not,

But if Raila doesn't do that, the only people willing to go with him will be unemployed, probably high school dropouts in Kibera, Mathare and Kondele who don't know how to think for themselves, youth who don't care about anything that is out there, they only care about what BABA will tell us ....

 

[BlietzKrieg]

Wewe kennedy unasumbuliwa na UTHAMAKI.

 

[Muharango]

Sawa mkubwa. Ongeza Raila hizo kura alizopewa Uhuru hapo.
Na fanya vyema. Kila Form 34A iliyo na makosa, chukua kura zote za Uhuru umpe Raila. Ata kama polling station iko Muranga au Kiambu.
Nina uhakika Raila hataongeza zaidi ya 50,000 votes.

Ujinga ni kutaka election inayohusisha maelfu ya watu ikuwe perfect.

Ukweli ni kwamba IEBC walichakachua Matokeo ya Uchaguzi, Ezra Chiloba ni CEO wa IEBC pia ni Afisa Usalama ndio aliyekuwa anashirikiana na Maafisa Usalama (NIS ) wenzie kuchakachua Matokeo ya Uchaguzi ndio maana Matokeo hayo hayakua na Fomu No. 34s hivyo kupelekea kutangaza Matokeo yasiokuwa halali (Fake Results)!!

 

[kennedy0000]

Ukweli ni kwamba IEBC walichakachua Matokeo ya Uchaguzi, Ezra Chiloba ni CEO wa IEBC pia ni Afisa Usalama ndio aliyekuwa anashirikiana na Maafisa Usalama (NIS ) wenzie kuchakachua Matokeo ya Uchaguzi ndio maana Matokeo hayo hayakua na Fomu No. 34s hivyo kupelekea kutangaza Matokeo yasiokuwa halali (Fake Results)!!

Sawa mkuu. Tulitabiri vizuri kwamba mtakuja na excuse na hekaya zingine ya vyenye mliibiwa.
You have examined the Forms yourself. You have listened to the observers. You heard Ekuru talk after his agents examined the forms at Bomas.
Raila started with hacking. When it was proved he forged those log files, he then changed the story to 'Raila is ahead in the IEBC servers'.

We knew that the election will be said to be free, fair and credible only when Raila wins.
But guess what. No one cares. Saa ii ata mnakaa wajinga na hizi arguments zenu.
Endeleeni na huu wimbo wenu Jubilee ikiendelea kujenga taifa.

 

[Muharango]

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Dawa ya Usaliti ni kusalitiwa!

 

[Kafrican]

It's about Raila 100%.
The election was that expensive because of Raila and civil society efforts. Particularly the electronic identification and transmission, which they now don't trust after losing.
Form 34As were not even supposed to come to Bomas. IEBC is making allowances for Raila and the civil society.

Over 200,000 forms for all positions, were supposed to be photographed/scanned and sent to the constituency centre and Bomas.
You think involving so many hands would go without glitches?
Dealing with thousands of presiding officers cannot go without numerous human errors. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them lost the officially provided Form 34As to fill and had to improvise.

And as the observers noted, no election is perfect.

I have been involved in the election process myself trust me, 30% of P.Os dint know what they were doing, they were not trained properly, I mean the counting and tallying was easy and all party agents were agreeing but the technicalities of it was the issue, if a court was to order reopening of balot boxes, hehe watapata vituko hapo ndani, some POs were forgetting to also include spoilt ballots in the box b4 they seal, Some of them even dropped the iebc stamps in the box, some forgot to stamp the form 32A...in short lots of mistakes made (remember once the balot box is resealed after counting, it cannot be opened unless in the presence of a judge), but the most important thing was that party agents accepted the results, so it shouldn't matter how the form 32A looks like, what should matter is if the party Agents signed off on the form agreeing that results written their was what was counted ...

 

[kennedy0000]

Wewe kennedy unasumbuliwa na UTHAMAKI.

Mr.Sam, there is no doubt that Raila has a case , but the question is, does it reach the threshold for a nullification of the election????
The answer is we don't know, the only way we can know for sure is by Raila going to court!

Raila has said he wont go to court bcoz he will get an outcome like the last election, but surely, he must have learnt lessons frm the previous case, if he really had evidence, there is no way the courts can ignore him, besides, he dismissing the point of going to court, he doesn't necessarily have to win, he just has to present the evidence one by one, millions of Kenyans will be watching, Kenyans of all class and level, then and only then will Kenyans like me and you be able to judge for ourselves even b4 the court issues its final judgement... Even the international community might see what Raila is seeing future legitimizing his claims..
But as of right now, Raila to me looks like a sire looser willing to burn every bridge if he is not getting the top seat, only through the court can Raila legitimizes his evidence even if he doesn't win, we will know that indeed this form 32A is genuin, this one is fake, this is the log from the real server, this one is not... Then even if he doesn't win the case, we ourselves will know that what he was claiming, if it was genuine or not,

But if Raila doesn't do that, the only people willing to go with him will be unemployed, probably high school dropouts in Kibera, Mathare and Kondele who don't know how to think for themselves, youth who don't care about anything that is out there, they only care about what BABA will tell us ....

Raila has no case. If he had a case he would have said so before forging SQL log files, while IEBC uses Oracle.
If he decides to go to court, he will lose via a unanimous decision.

 

[kennedy0000]

Wewe kennedy unasumbuliwa na UTHAMAKI.

Walitwambia hivo wakati wa campaign. Sasa hivi bado serikali ni ile ile, upizani ni ule ule.
Wembe ni ule ule.

 

[Tony254]

Sawa mkubwa. Ongeza Raila hizo kura alizopewa Uhuru hapo.
Na fanya vyema. Kila Form 34A iliyo na makosa, chukua kura zote za Uhuru umpe Raila. Ata kama polling station iko Muranga au Kiambu.
Nina uhakika Raila hataongeza zaidi ya 50,000 votes.

Ujinga ni kutaka election inayohusisha maelfu ya watu ikuwe perfect.

Sio form kumi pekee za 34a ndio ziko na shida. IEBC yenyewe imesema haina form 34a nyingi tu zaidi ya elfu moja which begs the question where did these assh*les get their form 34 b from? You need form 34a to create form 34 b. IEBC told NASA yesterday through a letter that NASA can access all form 34 b but they will have to wait longer to access all form 34a. That raises eyebrows. Kwani walitoa Wapi figures za 34 b? Ama walikua wanaguess tu alafu venye wamepatikana ndio wanatuambia hawana form 34 a zote tungoje? Something is smelling fishy

 

[kennedy0000]

I have been involved in the election process myself trust me, 30% of P.Os dint know what they were doing, they were not trained properly, I mean the counting and tallying was easy and all party agents were agreeing but the technicalities of it was the issue, if a court was to order reopening of balot boxes, hehe watapata vituko hapo ndani, some POs were forgetting to also include spoilt ballots in the box b4 they seal, Some of them even dropped the iebc stamps in the box, some forgot to stamp the form 32A...in short lots of mistakes made (remember once the balot box is resealed after counting, it cannot be opened unless in the presence of a judge), but the most important thing was that party agents accepted the results, so it shouldn't matter how the form 32A looks like, what should matter is if the party Agents signed off on the form agreeing that results written their was what was counted ...

Which organization did you work for to come up with the 30% number?
Observers were scattered in many stations and they gave it a clean bill of health.
Elog alone had observers in over 1000 polling centres (not stations) and they gave it a clean bill of health.

1. Stamping Form 34A is not a requirement in law. Signatures by the officer and agents is enough.
2. Conducting an exercise involving thousands of people will inevitably have many human errors/mistakes.
3. It is foolish to assume that these mistakes were all in the favour of Uhuru Kenyatta.

 

[kennedy0000]

Sio form kumi pekee za 34a ndio ziko na shida. IEBC yenyewe imesema haina form 34a nyingi tu zaidi ya elfu moja which begs the question where did these assh*les get their form 34 b from? You need form 34a to create form 34 b. IEBC told NASA yesterday through a letter that NASA can access all form 34 b but they will have to wait longer to access all form 34a. That raises eyebrows. Kwani walitoa Wapi figures za 34 b? Ama walikua wanaguess tu alafu venye wamepatikana ndio wanatuambia hawana form 34 a zote tungoje? Something is smelling fishy

IEBC iko na hizo forms in soft copy. Nasa inataka hard copy.
Form 34Bs were created by the 290 constituency returning officers and hand delivered to Bomas.
Form 34Bs are only 290 of them.
Form 34As are over 40,000.

Nasa went to court and had countrywide celebrations when it was ruled that results announced at the constituency level are final.
Now they are crying because they are the first casualties.
Even if IEBC fails to provide all Form 34As, there is nothing Nasa can do because the results announced by the constituency returning officers are FINAL.

 

[Muharango]

Sawa mkuu. Tulitabiri vizuri kwamba mtakuja na excuse na hekaya zingine ya vyenye mliibiwa.
You have examined the Forms yourself. You have listened to the observers. You heard Ekuru talk after his agents examined the forms at Bomas.
Raila started with hacking. When it was proved he forged those log files, he then changed the story to 'Raila is ahead in the IEBC servers'.

We knew that the election will be said to be free, fair and credible only when Raila wins.
But guess what. No one cares. Saa ii ata mnakaa wajinga na hizi arguments zenu.
Endeleeni na huu wimbo wenu Jubilee ikiendelea kujenga taifa.

Japo ukweli haupindishwi nafahamu pia hamuwezi kukubali hata hapa Makanjanja wenu wanathibitisha

IEBC waliiba kura kwa kutumia kanuni ya (n - 1), x+ y+, z = A
(n-1) hupunguza Kura au kitu kulingana na Kura au Vitu vinavyoongezeka na Kompyuta pia haitambui alama ya Koma (,) inapofanya Mahesabu! hapo maksi za X na Z hatijumulishwa! Kama unabisha jaribu 6, + 20 = ? kama hautapata 6!

 

[kennedy0000]

Japo ukweli haupindishwi nafahamu pia hamuwezi kukubali hata hapa Makanjanja wenu wanathibitisha

IEBC waliiba kura kwa kutumia kanuni ya (n - 1), x+ y+, z = A
(n-1) hupunguza Kura au kitu kulingana na Kura au Vitu vinavyoongezeka na Kompyuta pia haitambui alama ya Koma (,) inapofanya Mahesabu! hapo maksi za X na Z hatijumulishwa! Kama unabisha jaribu 6, + 20 = ? kama hautapata 6!

Sawa.
Raila alikuwa na 65% akaibiwa hadi 44%.

Lakini kimiujiza, Jubilee ikapata majority ya MCA, MP, Senator, Women Rep, na Governor.

Kubishana na nyinyi ni ujinga. Kwa hivyo nitakuacha na swali moja tu.

MTADO?

 

[Tony254]

Japo ukweli haupindishwi nafahamu pia hamuwezi kukubali hata hapa Makanjanja wenu wanathibitisha

IEBC waliiba kura kwa kutumia kanuni ya (n - 1), x+ y+, z = A
(n-1) hupunguza Kura au kitu kulingana na Kura au Vitu vinavyoongezeka na Kompyuta pia haitambui alama ya Koma (,) inapofanya Mahesabu! hapo maksi za X na Z hatijumulishwa! Kama unabisha jaribu 6, + 20 = ? kama hautapata 6!

Ebu rudia hapo kwa mahesabu na uende polepole. Watu wengi wana mathphobia.

 

[kennedy0000]

IEBC waliiba kura kwa kutumia kanuni ya (n - 1), x+ y+, z = A
(n-1) hupunguza Kura au kitu kulingana na Kura au Vitu vinavyoongezeka na Kompyuta pia haitambui alama ya Koma (,) inapofanya Mahesabu! hapo maksi za X na Z hatijumulishwa! Kama unabisha jaribu 6, + 20 = ? kama hautapata 6!

Na sijui mnataka yesu ashuke amwambie hivi ili msikie.

The final and official announcement was not on the server. It was after addition of the physical Form 34Bs.
The figures on the server are irrelevant and cannot even hold in a village magistrate court.