Hivi ndivyo meli kubwa ya kivita (Moskov) ilivyopigwa na Ukraine, japo mlisema sigara ndio chanzo cha ajali yake

Hivi ndivyo meli kubwa ya kivita (Moskov) ilivyopigwa na Ukraine, japo mlisema sigara ndio chanzo cha ajali yake

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Ukraine wametoa taarifa walivyotumia kombora aina ya Neptune kuipiga meli kubwa ya kivita ya Urusi, yaani kombora moja tu, limeli lote chali, gharama yote hiyo, hasara yote hiyo, Mrusi bado anatumia mbinu za kitambo sana kupigana, anaacha meli muhimu inakua yenyewe huko baharini, siku hizi meli huwa zinalindwa balaa, huwa sio rahisi kuifikia meli kwa kombora kizembe kama ilivyokua kwa Urusi.


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More Details of “Moskva” Sinking Revealed: A report from Ukrainian Pravda reveals more details about the sinking of the Russian flagship, Moskva, in the Black Sea in April.

The sinking of the Russian ship was a pivotal moment in the Ukraine war and arguably paved the way for many Ukrainian advances that came soon after. According to the report, the operators of the Moskva only had access to conventional radar – and no over-the-horizon radar signal – making it virtually impossible to see targets further away than 18km.

The operators, however, believed that the ship was still safe as it could not easily be seen from the sky or from the shore – and combined with the on-board air defense systems, Ukrainian forces didn’t seem to pose a threat.

According to a Ukrainian rocket scientist who played a part in the development of the Neptune anti-ship cruise missile, it was the “self-confidence” of the operators that ultimately led to the demise of the Moskva ship.

“They understood that they could not be seen from the sky, from the shore – too. Plus, they have very serious air defense systems on board and other protection systems. Therefore, they sailed 120 kilometers to the Ukrainian coast. And this self-confidence ruined them,” the scientist said.

Neptune Used Earlier Thank Moskva Sinking

The exclusive report also revealed that the use of the Neptune missile system in the sinking of the Moskva was not the first during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. According to an unnamed official familiar with the use of Neptune by the Ukrainian military, the missile system was used in the first few days of the Russian invasion.

The first launches were from the south of the Odessa region, and shot in the direction of Nikolaev. Therefore, the missiles had to pass over Odessa and, in order for it to be safe for the city, they were launched not at an altitude of 5-6 meters above the water, as it should be, but somewhere at 120 meters,” the unnamed official said, adding that the Russians “spotted them and most likely destroyed them.”

See Incredible Newly-Released Image A photograph also emerged in recent days showing the Neptune anti-ship cruise missile system that took down the Moskva ship in action. According to reports, the photograph shows one of two missiles that were fired at the ship. “An image has emerged showing the RK-360MC Neptune anti-ship cruise missile system in operation, claimed to be against the the [sic] Russian guided missile cruiser Moskva in April.

Two R-360 missiles were fired, sinking the ship,” Ukraine Weapons Tracker, a popular Twitter-based war-tracking account, explained. It’s the first time that the image has been released, following initial silence from Ukraine over the attack

 
Ukraine wametoa taarifa walivyotumia kombora aina ya Neptune kuipiga meli kubwa ya kivita ya Urusi, yaani kombora moja tu, limeli lote chali, gharama yote hiyo, hasara yote hiyo, Mrusi bado anatumia mbinu za kitambo sana kupigana, anaacha meli muhimu inakua yenyewe huko baharini, siku hizi meli huwa zinalindwa balaa, huwa sio rahisi kuifikia meli kwa kombora kizembe kama ilivyokua kwa Urusi.


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Neptune Anti-Ship Missile© Provided by 1945
More Details of “Moskva” Sinking Revealed: A report from Ukrainian Pravda reveals more details about the sinking of the Russian flagship, Moskva, in the Black Sea in April.

The sinking of the Russian ship was a pivotal moment in the Ukraine war and arguably paved the way for many Ukrainian advances that came soon after. According to the report, the operators of the Moskva only had access to conventional radar – and no over-the-horizon radar signal – making it virtually impossible to see targets further away than 18km.

The operators, however, believed that the ship was still safe as it could not easily be seen from the sky or from the shore – and combined with the on-board air defense systems, Ukrainian forces didn’t seem to pose a threat.

According to a Ukrainian rocket scientist who played a part in the development of the Neptune anti-ship cruise missile, it was the “self-confidence” of the operators that ultimately led to the demise of the Moskva ship.

“They understood that they could not be seen from the sky, from the shore – too. Plus, they have very serious air defense systems on board and other protection systems. Therefore, they sailed 120 kilometers to the Ukrainian coast. And this self-confidence ruined them,” the scientist said.

Neptune Used Earlier Thank Moskva Sinking

The exclusive report also revealed that the use of the Neptune missile system in the sinking of the Moskva was not the first during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. According to an unnamed official familiar with the use of Neptune by the Ukrainian military, the missile system was used in the first few days of the Russian invasion.

The first launches were from the south of the Odessa region, and shot in the direction of Nikolaev. Therefore, the missiles had to pass over Odessa and, in order for it to be safe for the city, they were launched not at an altitude of 5-6 meters above the water, as it should be, but somewhere at 120 meters,” the unnamed official said, adding that the Russians “spotted them and most likely destroyed them.”

See Incredible Newly-Released Image A photograph also emerged in recent days showing the Neptune anti-ship cruise missile system that took down the Moskva ship in action. According to reports, the photograph shows one of two missiles that were fired at the ship. “An image has emerged showing the RK-360MC Neptune anti-ship cruise missile system in operation, claimed to be against the the [sic] Russian guided missile cruiser Moskva in April.

Two R-360 missiles were fired, sinking the ship,” Ukraine Weapons Tracker, a popular Twitter-based war-tracking account, explained. It’s the first time that the image has been released, following initial silence from Ukraine over the attack

Lies, hakuna video clip wala picha iliyowahikuonyesha kombora la Neptune wala mjukuu wake akishambulia Moskova - walikuwepo wataliiwengi tu kwenye beach mbona hatujawahi kuona clip hata moja inayoonyesha tukio hilo, mwanzo hata Merikani yenyewe ilitiliashaka dai la Ukraine la kusema kwamba a couple of subsonic Ukrainian antiship missile sank Moskova - wakati Dunia nzima inajua kilicho tokea ni ajali ya kawaida tu baadhi ya makombora ya meli yalilipuka yenyewe kutokana na hali mbaya ya hewa - upepo ulikuwa mkali na mvua nyingi hata meli yenyewe ilionekana inayumba sana sana.
 
Lakini Moskva ilizamishwa na Ukraine?

Hapana Moscova ilizamishwa na kombora lake yenyewe lililofyatuka kwenye mojawapo ya launching tube yake - kumbuka Moscova ilihusika sana Katika ufyatuaji wa makombora ya kwenda kushambulia baadhi ya miji ya Ukraine - kivita muda wote inapashwa kuwa cocked to fire mambo miss wore tu,lakini wakati mwingine kutoka na na sisi binadamu, kuna sehemu unajisahau kufuata kanuni za kiusalama kwenye masuala ya silaha.

Mimi siku ya tukio niliona mvua ilinyesha sana sana iliyo habatana na upepo mkali na mawimbi makali - Moscova ilikuwa inayumba sana sana kutokana na upepo mkali -nikawa na waza kama kuna mtu kajisahau kuyafunga makombora ya Moscova vizuri/kiusalama kwa haliya hewa ilivyochafuka namna hii basi linaweza kutokea baraha kubwa sana - na kweli!! -Bottom line,is: Moscova haikuwahi kushambuliwa na kombora hata moja ilizamishwa na makombora yake yenyewe yaliyofyatuka kwa bahati mbaya/accident,basi.
 
Hapana Moscova ilizamishwa na kombora lake yenyewe lililofyatuka kwenye mojawapo ya launching tube yake - kumbuka Moscova ilihusika sana Katika ufyatuaji wa makombora ya kwenda kushambulia baadhi ya miji ya Ukraine - kivita muda wote inapashwa kuwa cocked to fire mambo miss wore tu,lakini wakati mwingine kutoka na na sisi binadamu, kuna sehemu unajisahau kufuata kanuni za kiusalama kwenye masuala ya silaha.

Mimi siku ya tukio niliona mvua ilinyesha sana sana iliyo habatana na upepo mkali na mawimbi makali - Moscova ilikuwa inayumba sana sana kutokana na upepo mkali -nikawa na waza kama kuna mtu kajisahau kuyafunga makombora ya Moscova vizuri/kiusalama kwa haliya hewa ilivyochafuka namna hii basi linaweza kutokea baraha kubwa sana - na kweli!! -Bottom line,is: Moscova haikuwahi kushambuliwa na kombora hata moja ilizamishwa na makombora yake yenyewe yaliyofyatuka kwa bahati mbaya/accident,basi.
Astaghafililah astafililah ostadh mbona unayumba kiasi hiki.
 
Hapana Moscova ilizamishwa na kombora lake yenyewe lililofyatuka kwenye mojawapo ya launching tube yake - kumbuka Moscova ilihusika sana Katika ufyatuaji wa makombora ya kwenda kushambulia baadhi ya miji ya Ukraine - kivita muda wote inapashwa kuwa cocked to fire mambo miss wore tu,lakini wakati mwingine kutoka na na sisi binadamu, kuna sehemu unajisahau kufuata kanuni za kiusalama kwenye masuala ya silaha.

Mimi siku ya tukio niliona mvua ilinyesha sana sana iliyo habatana na upepo mkali na mawimbi makali - Moscova ilikuwa inayumba sana sana kutokana na upepo mkali -nikawa na waza kama kuna mtu kajisahau kuyafunga makombora ya Moscova vizuri/kiusalama kwa haliya hewa ilivyochafuka namna hii basi linaweza kutokea baraha kubwa sana - na kweli!! -Bottom line,is: Moscova haikuwahi kushambuliwa na kombora hata moja ilizamishwa na makombora yake yenyewe yaliyofyatuka kwa bahati mbaya/accident,basi.
Kama Moskva ilizamishwa na kombora lake ilikuaje Ukraine ndo awe wa kwanza kujua na kutoa taarifa kwamba wameipiga Moskva kwa Neptune missiles na wameizamisha?!

Urusi si ilipinga ikaja kukiri siku tatu au nne baadae kwamba Meli Yao imezama.

Na kama ilipigwa Kwa kombora lake ilikuaje baada ya Moskva kuzama Urusi ikakimbiza Meli zake mbali kabisa na Pwani ya Ukraine?!
 
Kama Moskva ilizamishwa na kombora lake ilikuaje Ukraine ndo awe wa kwanza kujua na kutoa taarifa kwamba wameipiga Moskva kwa Neptune missiles na wameizamisha?!

Urusi si ilipinga ikaja kukiri siku tatu au nne baadae kwamba Meli Yao imezama.

Na kama ilipigwa Kwa kombora lake ilikuaje baada ya Moskva kuzama Urusi ikakimbiza Meli zake mbali kabisa na Pwani ya Ukraine?!
Naona hapa tutabishana mpaka asubuhi -nilikwamba Neptune anti ship missile ni kombora ku bwa sana watalii maelfu walioyekuwepo kwenye beach asibuhi hiyo wangeweza kabisa kutumia smartphone zao au tablet ku-record kitu kikubwa kama hicho na mlio mkali - cha ajabu mpaka sasa hakuna any credible evidence or living soul ambaye aliwahii kuonyonyesha tukio hilo kutokea- hakuna zaidi ya, as I said adithi za kubuni mfano: Ukraine Pravda na tabloid papers nyingine za Ukraine.

Kitu kingine cha kushangaza kidogo mbona Ukraine waliposhambulia KerchBridge walitangaza,walipo shambulia makao makuu ya NAVY na Drones nazo walitangaza,mashambulizi Russia airbases nayo yemetangazwa - sasa haya ya Moscava mbona maelezo yake yalikuwa na kiwingu kingi!!!
 
Naona hapa tutabishana mpaka asubuhi -nilikwamba Neptune anti ship missile ni kombora ku bwa sana watalii maelfu walioyekuwepo kwenye beach asibuhi hiya wangeweza kabisa kutumia smartphone zao au tablet ku-record kitu kikubwa kama hicho - mpaka sasa hakuna any credible evidence inayoonyesha hilo - hakuna zaidi ya as I said za kubuni mfano: Ukraine Pravda na tabloid papers nyingine za Ukraine.

Kitu kinginecha kushangaza kidogo
Yani tukio la ghafla namna hiyo watalii wakae stand by kulirekodi kweli Mkuu?!
Moskva ni heavy Cruiser ina tani zaidi ya 11,000 kuniambia kwamba inaweza kukaa kwenye shallow water ambapo kuna watalii utakua unatuongopea,hiyo Meli inakaa km kadhaa kutoka Pwani.

Halafu mbona mpk Leo Russia imeshindwa kutoa ushahidi unaoeleweka kupinga madai ya Ukraine kwamba hiyo Meli ilizamishwa kwa Neptune?!
 
Mrusi bado anatumia mbinu za kitambo sana kupigana, anaacha meli muhimu inakua yenyewe huko baharini, siku hizi meli huwa zinalindwa balaa, huwa sio rahisi kuifikia meli kwa kombora kizembe kama ilivyokua kwa Urusi.
Kwani Urusi haina 'carrier group' ?...au mile zake za kivita hazina zile defense systems za kujilinda ?
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Hapana Moscova ilizamishwa na kombora lake yenyewe lililofyatuka kwenye mojawapo ya launching tube yake - kumbuka Moscova ilihusika sana Katika ufyatuaji wa makombora ya kwenda kushambulia baadhi ya miji ya Ukraine - kivita muda wote inapashwa kuwa cocked to fire mambo miss wore tu,lakini wakati mwingine kutoka na na sisi binadamu, kuna sehemu unajisahau kufuata kanuni za kiusalama kwenye masuala ya silaha.

Mimi siku ya tukio niliona mvua ilinyesha sana sana iliyo habatana na upepo mkali na mawimbi makali - Moscova ilikuwa inayumba sana sana kutokana na upepo mkali -nikawa na waza kama kuna mtu kajisahau kuyafunga makombora ya Moscova vizuri/kiusalama kwa haliya hewa ilivyochafuka namna hii basi linaweza kutokea baraha kubwa sana - na kweli!! -Bottom line,is: Moscova haikuwahi kushambuliwa na kombora hata moja ilizamishwa na makombora yake yenyewe yaliyofyatuka kwa bahati mbaya/accident,basi.
yakheee yaonesha siku ya tukio ulikuwepo apo beach mzee kwamba upepo ulikua mkaliiiiii na meli ilikua inayumba yumba uka hisi kuna jambo lita tokea ila ukashindwa kuwa fahamisha waruss wenzio
hatar sana hiii

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Kwani Urusi haina 'carrier group' ?...au mile zake za kivita hazina zile defense systems za kujilinda ?
Sela Son Axel Lloyd T14 Armata
Russia wana aircraft carrier moja tu inaitwa Admiral Kuznetsov,Ila ni mbovumbovu muda mwingi inashinda kwenye drydock.

Meli za Russia zina mifumo ya kujilinda tena mizuri tu kama Moskva ndio ilikua kama Meli kuu pale black sea ilikua ikitoa Ulinzi kwa Meli zingine zilizokua zinafanya mashambulizi kwenda Ukraine.
 
Wengi wa ProRussia ni wale wazee wa vijiwe vya kahawa.Ujengaji wao wa hoja una mashaka makubwa🤔
 
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