JamiiForums Exclusive: Kiranga and Fellow members English Debate

Buyaka · Dec 24, 2011

Kiranga said:
Above all, mie mwenyewe nilishalisema hili hata kabla.

Kuna kipindi threads zingine zinakwenda kwenye kufuahisha baraza na kuwapa watu wanachotaka, mtu yeyote anayefikiri naweza kuandika vituko hivi katika mawasiliano serious anahitaji kuwa examined.

Haya, mwenyewe kakubali, kwamba yale yalikuwa ni mahoka tu, tulikuwa tuna have fun kum parody Mwita kwa sababu Mwita ni shabiki nazi wa CCM na JF for all intents and purposes ni jukwaa la upinzani Tanzania, sio siri. Lakini sio Kiingereza kile. Kwa hiyo kama ni u - genius Kiranga atakuwa nao umelalia kwingine. Kwa mfano, mi sijawahi kukutana na mswahili anaelezea particle physics kwa weledi na wepesi kama wa Kiranga. Kwa hilo namkubali Mtanzania mwenzangu. Lakini sio u genius wa kujua Kidengeleko na Kihaya cha babaake na mamaake na Kiswahili cha Tandale Kwa Mtogole alipozaliwa na Kiingereza cha Mwalimu Salma Kikwete cha Olympio Primary. Kiingereza anachoandika hapa JF ni broken!

J Mushi umesikia? Sio Michuzi hapa kwenye opinion leader mmoja sijui Mashaka, sijui US Blogger, hapendwi mtu hapa, kudadadadada deki!

Natoka.

dazipozi · Dec 24, 2011

Mwita25 dah!unanitosha kaka namajibu yako

AshaDii · Dec 24, 2011

Nyani Ngabu said:
What's up with these Dii diis?

A close acquaintance....lol

Kiranga · Dec 24, 2011

Bu'yaka said:
Haya, mwenyewe kakubali, kwamba yale yalikuwa ni mahoka tu, tulikuwa tuna have fun kum parody Mwita kwa sababu Mwita ni shabiki nazi wa CCM na JF for all intents and purposes ni jukwaa la upinzani Tanzania, sio siri. Lakini sio Kiingereza kile. Kwa hiyo kama ni u - genius Kiranga atakuwa nao umelalia kwingine. Kwa mfano, mi sijawahi kukutana na mswahili anaelezea particle physics kwa weledi na wepesi kama wa Kiranga. Kwa hilo namkubali Mtanzania mwenzangu. Lakini sio u genius wa kujua Kidengeleko na Kihaya cha babaake na mamaake na Kiswahili cha Tandale Kwa Mtogole alipozaliwa na Kiingereza cha Mwalimu Salma Kikwete cha Olympio Primary. Kiingereza anachoandika hapa JF ni broken!

J Mushi umesikia? Sio Michuzi hapa kwenye opinion leader mmoja sijui Mashaka, sijui US Blogger, hapendwi mtu hapa, kudadadadada deki!

Natoka.

Post yangu ya kwanza kabisa katika thread hii nimekichana Kiingereza kwamba hakina logic na mantiki kama Kiswahili.

Kama hujaiona irejee, kwa msingi huo, uelewa wa Kiingereza si impressive hivyo kwangu.

Na siyo mie tu ninayesema hivyo kwa sababu unaweza kusema mie nina bias ya lugha yangu.

George Bernard Shaw mwenyewe kasaini motion kwamba Kiingereza lugha fyongo.

Basi wametuwahi tu kututawala.

Kiranga · Dec 24, 2011

Nyani Ngabu said:
Neno wanton ni adjective lakini linaweza kuwa noun au adverb kutegemea na unavyolitumia na ulivyoliunda. Mfano wantonly na wantonness.

Ila tukubali tu kuwa Kiingereza ni lugha ngumu. Hata wenye lugha wenyewe huwa wanachapia sana tu.

Lugha yoyote yenye karibu 50% rules na 50% exceptions automatically inakuwa ngumu.

Kiingereza na Kiswahili zote ni Lingua Franca, lakini Kiingereza ni more like a hodgepodge of a potpourri kuliko a structured language.

Mtazamaji · Dec 24, 2011

AshaDii said:
Dii am hoping hii ni opening line ya debate you are about to indulge....lol... Nipe a go ahead nikuletee wa ku debate nae.

Ashadii ukitaka kuwapamanisha watu usiwaulize wewe wachongnishe tu. teh teh teh .

BTN
can someone tell me english version of the word mchonganishi au kuchongaisha lol

Kiranga said:
Lugha yoyote yenye karibu 50% rules na 50% exceptions automatically inakuwa ngumu.

Kiingereza na Kiswahili zote ni Lingua Franca, lakini Kiingereza ni more like a hodgepodge of a potpourri kuliko a structured language.

Kiranga for few of us with "retarded" english can u use a simpler simily. in those blued words . Otherwise wewe mkareee

Nyani Ngabu · Dec 24, 2011

Mtazamaji said:
can someone tell me english version of the word mchonganishi au kuchongaisha lol

Kuchonganisha = set at odds.

jmushi1 · Dec 24, 2011

Bu'yaka said:
Haya, mwenyewe kakubali, kwamba yale yalikuwa ni mahoka tu, tulikuwa tuna have fun kum parody Mwita kwa sababu Mwita ni shabiki nazi wa CCM na JF for all intents and purposes ni jukwaa la upinzani Tanzania, sio siri. Lakini sio Kiingereza kile. Kwa hiyo kama ni u - genius Kiranga atakuwa nao umelalia kwingine. Kwa mfano, mi sijawahi kukutana na mswahili anaelezea particle physics kwa weledi na wepesi kama wa Kiranga. Kwa hilo namkubali Mtanzania mwenzangu. Lakini sio u genius wa kujua Kidengeleko na Kihaya cha babaake na mamaake na Kiswahili cha Tandale Kwa Mtogole alipozaliwa na Kiingereza cha Mwalimu Salma Kikwete cha Olympio Primary. Kiingereza anachoandika hapa JF ni broken!

J Mushi umesikia? Sio Michuzi hapa kwenye opinion leader mmoja sijui Mashaka, sijui US Blogger, hapendwi mtu hapa, kudadadadada deki!

Natoka.

Mkuu umeongea sana na kuongezea kuliko nilivyoongea, in other words you have done put words in my mouth.

Kuandika kiingereza kigumu na ufahamu wa lugha ya kidengereko havikuwa measurements zangu...

Soma na uelewe wenzako wanachopost kabla huja conclude stuff that is out of context on my perspectives.

Kama Kiranga na yeye alidhani nilisema hivyo kutokana na kiingereza chake basi alikosea.

Kiranga · Dec 24, 2011

Mtazamaji said:
Ashadii ukitaka kuwapamanisha watu usiwaulize wewe wachongnishe tu. teh teh teh .

BTN
can someone tell me english version of the word mchonganishi au kuchongaisha lol

Kiranga for few of us with "retarded" english can u use a simpler simily. in those blued words . Otherwise wewe mkareee

The saga continues, the vocab must fatten. Tunajifunza.

Mchonganishi = Provocateur

Nyani Ngabu · Dec 24, 2011

Mtazamaji said:
Kiranga for few of us with "retarded" english can u use a simpler simily. in those blued words . Otherwise wewe mkareee

Hodgepodge of a potpourri ni marudio tu kwa sababu maneno yote mawili yana maana moja.

AshaDii · Dec 24, 2011

Mtazamaji said:
Ashadii ukitaka kuwapamanisha watu usiwaulize wewe wachongnishe tu. teh teh teh .

BTN
can someone tell me english version of the word mchonganishi au kuchongaisha lol

Kiranga for few of us with "retarded" english can u use a simpler simily. in those blued words . Otherwise wewe mkareee

I think usha notice the way alivo mchunguliaji.... Hapo utamchonganisha vipi na hali hayupo mpaka aingie line? Labda unipe techniques......

Hapo kwa Kiranga nimeambulia tu potporri... lol.... Alafu sasa ndo yapelekea u-assume hodgepodge ni kitu gani...:lol:

Kiranga · Dec 24, 2011

Nyani Ngabu said:
Hodgepodge of a potpourri ni marudio tu kwa sababu maneno yote mawili yana maana moja.

Marudio yana maana kwamba kuna mchanganyiko wa michanganyiko, wa kwanza wa Anglo na Saxon, wa pili wa Anglo-Saxon na Latin/ other Indo-European languages.

Mchanganyiko ni afadhali kuliko mchanganyiko wa michanganyiko.

So the apparent repetition in "hodgepodge of a potpourri" actually serves to denote the degree of the mix.

Nyani Ngabu · Dec 24, 2011

Kiranga said:
Marudio yana maana kwamba kuna mchanganyiko wa michanganyiko, wa kwanza wa Anglo na Saxon, wa pili wa Anglo-Saxon na Latin/ Indo-European.

Mchanganyiko ni afadhali kuliko mchanganyiko wa michanganyiko.

Mchanganyiko wa michanganyiko ni mparaganyiko!

jmushi1 · Dec 24, 2011

Kwa hiyo kwa sababu ya haya mapungufu ya kisarufi, kimantiki, kukosa viima na viarifu kwenye sentensi zake, Kiingereza hiki sikioni kama kina umakini sana. Sasa ukiandika hivyo halafu ukawa unasomwa na kina J Mushi, you know, mchaga wa milimani Machame huko sijui wa wapi huyu, of course atamuita genius! Sijui unanielewa? Wewe Nyani huwa nakuona unaandika andika viingereza viingereza hapa, lazima una vi idea idea na ninachokisema, nadhani unanielewa....

Hapo kwenye bold huo ni ushoga, mipasho ya kifala sina time nayo, eti mchagga wa machame, we **** kweli, na wewe kabila gani? Ama nikupe kabila na mimi?

AshaDii · Dec 24, 2011

Nyani Ngabu said:
Kuchonganisha = set at odds.

Sasa Ngabu hio "set at odds" ni the act lakini sio the person...

Nyani Ngabu · Dec 24, 2011

jmushi1 said:
Mkuu umeongea sana na kuongezea kuliko nilivyoongea, in other words you have done put words in my mouth.

Kuandika kiingereza kigumu na ufahamu wa lugha ya kidengereko havikuwa measurements zangu...

Soma na uelewe wenzako wanachopost kabla huja conclude stuff that is out of context on my perspectives.

Kama Kiranga na yeye alidhani nilisema hivyo kutokana na kiingereza chake basi alikosea.

Mangi, kubali tu Bu'yaka amekushika pabaya.

Nyani Ngabu · Dec 24, 2011

Mtazamaji said:
can someone tell me english version of the word mchonganishi au kuchongaisha lol

AshaDii said:
Sasa Ngabu hio "set at odds" ni the act lakini sio the person...

Asha, kuchonganisha nayo ni person? Uwage unasoma kwa ukamilifu basi.

Fidel80 · Dec 24, 2011

Nyani Ngabu said:
Mangi, kubali tu Bu'yaka amekushika pabaya.

Komredi nafinywa sikio kongosho unamfaham fika.

jmushi1 · Dec 24, 2011

Nyani Ngabu said:
Mangi, kubali tu Bu'yaka amekushika pabaya.

Wote hamwezi nishika pabaya, how?

Kuniandika kuwa mimi ni mchagga na steriotypes?

Hamna mtu wa kunitisha mtandaoni.

Mtu wa vitisho mtandaoni ana matatizo ya low self esteem na insecurities.

Beyond anonymity mtu anaespew hii diarrea ndo unaita kushikwa pabaya?

Mtazamaji · Dec 24, 2011

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