Japan to build Kenya passenger speed bullet train as a sign of watertight alliance after first ticad
Japan to build Kenya passenger speed bullet train as a sign of watertight alliance after first ticad
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Edward Wanjala
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The project of SGR never stops to amaze!! When people were told about the price, some said it was too it was too much!!! But day in day out new things start popping up! I heard, 40 passing stations, then over 20 stations, then port reitz station, then inclusion of Nairobi commuter train, then Mombasa island commuter train, then electrification, then 40 radio stations, so it is not surprising that we will keep on getting new things from this project.
This design below never existed till of late, the branch going to Mombasa Island
This design below never existed till of late, the branch going to Mombasa Island
Juakali1980
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NO..you will be enabling corruption.This project is for Kenya and not KAMWANA..
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hapa kasi tu
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Hii hadithi ina all sort of uwongo, iko wapi link inyo eleza hadithi hii, kwasasa Japan imeshare na nchi chache sana dunia hiyo technology ya HIGH SPEED TRAIN. Japan imeuza SPEED TRAIN nyingi, lakini sio HIGH SPEED TRAIN (kuna tofauti hapo). Ni mwaka jana tuu Japan ilishindana vikali na China kuiuzia Singapore bullet train, China waka kosa tender kitu ambachi wachina hawakukipenda.
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Kwa railway track gani hiyo train intapita?, hiyo SGR ya sasa is not design to take high speed train of that type, halafu made by Chinese? halafu Chanise watakaa tuu wanawangalia mnaweka Japanese train kwenye track walizotolea jasho, haha mtawapa wachina homa ya SGR
Asia Embraces Bullet Trains as Singapore-Malaysia Deal Looms
Japan, China set to clash over Malaysia-Singapore high-speed rail project bid - The Mainichi
Kwa railway track gani hiyo train intapita?, hiyo SGR ya sasa is not design to take high speed train of that type, halafu made by Chinese? halafu Chanise watakaa tuu wanawangalia mnaweka Japanese train kwenye track walizotolea jasho, haha mtawapa wachina homa ya SGR
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True. As much as i support infrastructure development in Kenya. I think whoever posted this doesn't know much about bullet trains. I'm not an expert either, but one thing i asked myself from my little knowledge about bullet trains when i read this was are they building a new railway?
The reason is bullet train rail track design is a little different. Even the angles of the wheels, and rails themselves are a little different to accommodate for the high speeds that bullets trains travel at.
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Tim Choice
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Nimeshawaeleza kuwa haya hayatokani na UHURUTO jamani, whats hard to understand about that?
CREDIT IS TO THE FIRST AMBASSADOR TO JAPAN WHO TOTALLY SOLD KENYA TO JAPAN AND MARRIED ,LIVED AND DIED THERE!
He made the Japanese interested in Kenya not just economically but deeply culturally.....talk of a super ambassador!
Then Japan opened its first embassy in Kenya in 1964, followed immediately by JICA....we all know what JICA is.
He was a certain Dr.Onyango Awori or so!
Tim Choice
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Open your threads rather than spewing "uharo" kwa za wengine.....wewe mwenyewe katafute hiyo citation, nonesense!
Tim Choice
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Wamesema ni test run , A SHORT TRACK FOR COMMUTER ONLY!.....not on chinese laid line!
And its pure Japanese AID for development in Technology.
And its their previous 1st generation siyo 3rd, but has no big differences!
Tim Choice
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JICA says it has done the most projects and spent the most YENS in Kenya in the entire African continent!
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Test run wapi? Also bullet trains are not ideal for short distances. I don't know if you've ever seen how fast that thing goes.
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Wakuu mniwie radhi!
Hili bandiko lilikua tu matamanio na maono yangu binafsi , ndio maana hata mkiutazama vizuri mtakuta hapakuwa na link yoyote niliyoipachika hapo.
BUT....
THESE WERE JUST MY WISHES, THOUGHTS AND LOUD DREAMS.
BUT THE JICA PART IS FACT
THE AMBASSADORIAL PART IS FACT
THE CULTURAL IDENTITY THOUGHTS OF THE JAPANESE ARE FACTS TOO
THE CHINA/JAPAN/INDIA RIVALRY IN AFRICA IS A FACT TOO ETC ETC
EXCEPT THE BULLET TRAIN PART WHICH IS NOT TRUE...BUT HEY DREAMS DO COME TRUE TOO
NOTE: Personally, i wished that the CARGO TRAIN development went to China as it is today while our LIGHT PASSENGER TRAIN development pact be undertook by Japan.
That way we get competitive upping of tech and project delivery, considering we dont need that many passenger trains,the Japs would put just a single passenger route probabaly MSA-NBO-KSM...for working class.
Hicho kifaa cha Mjapani nakitamani kije sana kwetu from CAPE TOWN to CAIRO teketeke.Risasi .....nyengine from LAGOS -KINSHASA-NAIROBI.
Thanks my friends for reading my thoughts here!
Goodbye😛😀😉🙂
Hili bandiko lilikua tu matamanio na maono yangu binafsi , ndio maana hata mkiutazama vizuri mtakuta hapakuwa na link yoyote niliyoipachika hapo.
BUT....
THESE WERE JUST MY WISHES, THOUGHTS AND LOUD DREAMS.
BUT THE JICA PART IS FACT
THE AMBASSADORIAL PART IS FACT
THE CULTURAL IDENTITY THOUGHTS OF THE JAPANESE ARE FACTS TOO
THE CHINA/JAPAN/INDIA RIVALRY IN AFRICA IS A FACT TOO ETC ETC
EXCEPT THE BULLET TRAIN PART WHICH IS NOT TRUE...BUT HEY DREAMS DO COME TRUE TOO
NOTE: Personally, i wished that the CARGO TRAIN development went to China as it is today while our LIGHT PASSENGER TRAIN development pact be undertook by Japan.
That way we get competitive upping of tech and project delivery, considering we dont need that many passenger trains,the Japs would put just a single passenger route probabaly MSA-NBO-KSM...for working class.
Hicho kifaa cha Mjapani nakitamani kije sana kwetu from CAPE TOWN to CAIRO teketeke.Risasi .....nyengine from LAGOS -KINSHASA-NAIROBI.
Thanks my friends for reading my thoughts here!
Goodbye😛😀😉🙂
Kafrican
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Tim Choice. Please don't do that again, you should have said so from the beginning, now you have opened yourself up for all kinds of crazy comments that will be coming..
Anyway, its certainly true that Japans way of doing things is different, .... Abt the bullet train, I once heard on bbc that they were planning to construct one in the US from LA to new york. Coast to coast and they would do it themselfs using their own money, they certainly are keen to export the technology to boost there industries, especially now that their economy is stagnant,.... But as far as Kenya is concerned, we are not there yet, first we wont be able to afford the technology, 2nd, for us to need a bullet train, we first need to achieve a 24 hour economy, I mean a truly 24 hour economy, not the version or term that our politicians like to use when they bring street lights to a neighbourhood.... I mean the synchronized 24hr economy where a city never really sleeps, where people are paid per hour and work in shifts day and night... From the port that imports and exports to the stock exchange to the factory to the public transport to basically all the drivers of the economy....as for now, we are not there yet.....
The difference between Japanese and chinies
enya has been through investment aid projects from both China and Japan. There are 50,000 Chinese and 700 Japanese living and working in Kenya, but these two Asian groups don’t mingle with each other, and their conduct and business approaches differ considerably. Though Chinese investment is much greater, Kenyans favor the Japanese way of doing business.
Kenyans are able to distinguish Japanese and Chinese. I wondered how they could tell the difference and asked some of them. They told me that those who wear short-sleeved shirts and dress pants to work are Japanese, and those who wear T-shirts to work are Chinese. Also, Japanese play golf on their days off, while Chinese get together to drink.
And how do Japanese living in Kenya perceive the Chinese? A Japanese trading company leader told me, “Only the Chinese dare go to Kenya to do business carrying a shabby suitcase and without knowing any English.”
Most of the 50,000 Chinese are there for gold exploration. Some are employees of state-owned enterprises and large private enterprises, and others are self-employed businessmen trading and selling Chinese daily necessities.
Different Agendas
Data shows there are more than one million Chinese in Africa, and most are involved in doing business. On the other hand, there are less than 5,000 Japanese in Africa. Their goal is to help Africa develop their education and agriculture systems and building hospitals in rural areas.
Kenya’s capital, Nairobi, is the home of two headquarters of the United Nations. In addition, International Civil Aviation Organization offices for eastern and southern Africa are also based in Nairobi. Therefore, Nairobi attracts investments from around the world, including from China and Japan.
Road Construction Projects
In 2008, the Chinese government started to fund a highway construction project connecting the northern industrial city of Thika. The highway was constructed by three companies, China Wuyi, SinoHydro, and Shengli Oilfield. The total cost was 31 billion Kenyan shillings (about $360 million). The 50 km highway extended the original two-way, four-lane road into a two-way, eight-lane highway and included East Africa’s longest highway bridges, underpasses, pedestrian bridges, etc. The Chinese companies built this highway in four years.
In the same year, the Japanese government invested 2.5 billion yen ($24 million) to fund construction of the 15 km long Kileleshw road running through the center of Nairobi. The original plan was four lanes, but the Japanese finally turned it into two lanes, and it took them six years to build.
Chinese media reported how the Chinese construction team surpassed Japan’s in completing their road construction project better and faster. However, the story turns out to be a bit different when taking a closer look at the two projects.
Why did the Japanese change the four-lane plan into two lanes? The Japanese government conducted research and found that local residents love running. They therefore convinced the Kenyan government to change it into a two-lane road, including spacious sidewalks for people to walk and run. At the same time, they built two sloping drain embankments on both sides to allow small animals to escape from the drains during times of flooding.
Because the road goes through the city center, they also created a monument so many Kenyans can remember and appreciate Japan for assisting in this road project.
According to Laban Onditi Rao, the vice chair of Kenya’s National Chamber of Commerce and Industry in Nairobi, the Japanese hired local construction companies to build the road and they purchased local raw materials, while the Chinese imported raw materials and labor from China.
China was actually dumping excess supplies in Kenya; while calling it aid, they profited from it. In actuality, Japan’s assistance and investment model brought greater economic benefits to Kenya, with better social effects, Mr. Rao said. He suggested that if China could be more like Japan, employ more Kenyans, use raw materials from Kenya, and leave money in Kenya, that would change the Kenyan people’s opinion of China.
Xu Jingbo is a well-known Chinese journalist living in Japan. He is the founder of ribenxinwen.com, a Chinese website that reports on Japanese news. This is an abridged translation of Xu’s article posted to his personal blog on Aug. 28, 2016.
Anyway, its certainly true that Japans way of doing things is different, .... Abt the bullet train, I once heard on bbc that they were planning to construct one in the US from LA to new york. Coast to coast and they would do it themselfs using their own money, they certainly are keen to export the technology to boost there industries, especially now that their economy is stagnant,.... But as far as Kenya is concerned, we are not there yet, first we wont be able to afford the technology, 2nd, for us to need a bullet train, we first need to achieve a 24 hour economy, I mean a truly 24 hour economy, not the version or term that our politicians like to use when they bring street lights to a neighbourhood.... I mean the synchronized 24hr economy where a city never really sleeps, where people are paid per hour and work in shifts day and night... From the port that imports and exports to the stock exchange to the factory to the public transport to basically all the drivers of the economy....as for now, we are not there yet.....
The difference between Japanese and chinies
enya has been through investment aid projects from both China and Japan. There are 50,000 Chinese and 700 Japanese living and working in Kenya, but these two Asian groups don’t mingle with each other, and their conduct and business approaches differ considerably. Though Chinese investment is much greater, Kenyans favor the Japanese way of doing business.
Kenyans are able to distinguish Japanese and Chinese. I wondered how they could tell the difference and asked some of them. They told me that those who wear short-sleeved shirts and dress pants to work are Japanese, and those who wear T-shirts to work are Chinese. Also, Japanese play golf on their days off, while Chinese get together to drink.
And how do Japanese living in Kenya perceive the Chinese? A Japanese trading company leader told me, “Only the Chinese dare go to Kenya to do business carrying a shabby suitcase and without knowing any English.”
Most of the 50,000 Chinese are there for gold exploration. Some are employees of state-owned enterprises and large private enterprises, and others are self-employed businessmen trading and selling Chinese daily necessities.
Different Agendas
Data shows there are more than one million Chinese in Africa, and most are involved in doing business. On the other hand, there are less than 5,000 Japanese in Africa. Their goal is to help Africa develop their education and agriculture systems and building hospitals in rural areas.
Kenya’s capital, Nairobi, is the home of two headquarters of the United Nations. In addition, International Civil Aviation Organization offices for eastern and southern Africa are also based in Nairobi. Therefore, Nairobi attracts investments from around the world, including from China and Japan.
Road Construction Projects
In 2008, the Chinese government started to fund a highway construction project connecting the northern industrial city of Thika. The highway was constructed by three companies, China Wuyi, SinoHydro, and Shengli Oilfield. The total cost was 31 billion Kenyan shillings (about $360 million). The 50 km highway extended the original two-way, four-lane road into a two-way, eight-lane highway and included East Africa’s longest highway bridges, underpasses, pedestrian bridges, etc. The Chinese companies built this highway in four years.
In the same year, the Japanese government invested 2.5 billion yen ($24 million) to fund construction of the 15 km long Kileleshw road running through the center of Nairobi. The original plan was four lanes, but the Japanese finally turned it into two lanes, and it took them six years to build.
Chinese media reported how the Chinese construction team surpassed Japan’s in completing their road construction project better and faster. However, the story turns out to be a bit different when taking a closer look at the two projects.
Why did the Japanese change the four-lane plan into two lanes? The Japanese government conducted research and found that local residents love running. They therefore convinced the Kenyan government to change it into a two-lane road, including spacious sidewalks for people to walk and run. At the same time, they built two sloping drain embankments on both sides to allow small animals to escape from the drains during times of flooding.
Because the road goes through the city center, they also created a monument so many Kenyans can remember and appreciate Japan for assisting in this road project.
According to Laban Onditi Rao, the vice chair of Kenya’s National Chamber of Commerce and Industry in Nairobi, the Japanese hired local construction companies to build the road and they purchased local raw materials, while the Chinese imported raw materials and labor from China.
China was actually dumping excess supplies in Kenya; while calling it aid, they profited from it. In actuality, Japan’s assistance and investment model brought greater economic benefits to Kenya, with better social effects, Mr. Rao said. He suggested that if China could be more like Japan, employ more Kenyans, use raw materials from Kenya, and leave money in Kenya, that would change the Kenyan people’s opinion of China.
Xu Jingbo is a well-known Chinese journalist living in Japan. He is the founder of ribenxinwen.com, a Chinese website that reports on Japanese news. This is an abridged translation of Xu’s article posted to his personal blog on Aug. 28, 2016.
Tim Choice
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Kafrica natanguliza radhi nisamehe,
Wajua a college deserter/drop out like I wouldn't have known better,my apologies.
But all the other points I made concerning JICA,Trade wars,cultural appropriation and Kenya's diplomatic mission to Japan are TRUE.....I read professional authentic -able articles on those.
As if, even if it were true they wouldn't still refute it with their crazy comments.
Hata hiyo "bullet train" ingekua kweli bado kungekua na "crazy comments"...why should I be scared of them?...or of dreaming?,in any way? ,that is ,whatsoever?
Anyway you are right!
Huwa sifungui nyuzi kiholelaholela humu ,I prefer just reading, wacha nkarudi kwenye hibernation cocoon yangu...hah!.....pole kama umekwazika....nisamehe.
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Kafrican
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No need for that... I meant to say that with best of intentions... This guys always have crazy comments even when facts with irrefutable proofs are staring right at them... Its best not give them a genuine reason.....
Anyway is true what you said about Japan having invested so much in Kenya more than any other African country from basically all the major bridges in Kenya like mtwapa, Nyali and Kilifi, the Mombasa port and its current expansion project, the the sh50B grant for exploration of geothermal power and another 32B for the olkaria geothermal station which is the largest single geothermal power plant in the world, ...
If you look at the TICAD conference where Japan pleged $30B worth of investments in Africa most of the deals went to Kenya, around 25%-35% of the money will be invested in Kenya alone leaving the rest of 52 states to share the rest of 65%
http://ticad6.net/images/MOU-List.pdf