JF Karibuni Tanzania Professionals Network

[Sam GM]

Asante Mzalendo Dotori. Annual General Meeting itakuwa this coming August 2008. We are doing a ground work for that meeting now including seeking opinions here at JF.

Ushauri wangu ni kuwa kwa sababu mmepata idea kibao hapa JF, sio rahisi kuzishughulikia zote kwa mara moja,fanyeni mtakazoweza ila tunzeni idea zote mlizopewa na with time mtakuwa mnapitia ideas na kuendelea kurekebisha, si mnafahamu mtaka yote kwa pupa.......................

 

[Dotori]

Thanks Datori. Please let us meet before if possible to share ideas. U dont need to disclose your identity if u prefer so, but I really want TPN to make a huge transformation now than ever. One year is enough to study ourselves and make necessary changes.

I agree. Let me put some thoughts together on the way forward for the TPN and I will share them with you.

 

[Sanctus Mtsimbe]

Mkuu Dotori

Wakiweza kabla ya huo mkutano waambieni wajumbe wenu wapitie thread zote kwenye hii forum, nina imani mengi yamesemwa kuanzia vipengere vya katiba ya TPN, aina ya wanachama na jinsi ya kuwapata,etc

Mengi yameongelewa hapa, of course you are not bound to agree with JF members' pieces of advice; At least mengine yatawasaidia.

Ninapendekeza any person who is accredited member of any professional body like I, should be prioritised, so next time I visit your office will only show you my professional membership card and should register me at instant. Samething should be applied to registered engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc. Your organisation is all about Professionals. Isn't?

You should think also what will happen when you will have one milion members. What will happen when all founder members retire? Say in 20 years' time.

Be careful the Name Tanzania Professionals Network might be bigger than the way you people at TPN think. Please bear in mind that Tanzania has a population of almost 40 milion.

Njimba

Mkuu Njimba, hii thread nitaifanyia majumuisho na kuwapelekea members ili nao watoe maoni yao.

Kwa sasa tunao Madaktari, Engineers, Waalimu etc. actually its a mixture of all professionals. Others are even readers from respective professional organizations.

According to 2002 Census, there could be a toatl of about 1.5 Millions Professionals with specialized training from form IV to University Level. However, there could be around 500,000 only graduates. If we open up membership to others baas well then we may be talking of 5 Million members. We should at least be able to set a strategy on how we can increase membership.

 

[Sanctus Mtsimbe]

Unfortunately August, I will be out of town. But I can still contribute electronically if the agenda is distributed ahead of the meeting.
Msimbe, as I have said before the idea is good, but it needs all of us to use our diverse background to enrich it and take it to the next level.

Mzalendo Dotori, nimekupa sana. This weekend nakutana na Katibu Mkuu na Mhazini, then next week or so tunakutana Executive Committee before AGM. So this week we won't have a Workshop/Seminar. But since we work with British Council, they have arranged a Seminar next week of which TPN members will be or has been informed to attend.

 

[Sanctus Mtsimbe]

Ushauri wangu ni kuwa kwa sababu mmepata idea kibao hapa JF, sio rahisi kuzishughulikia zote kwa mara moja,fanyeni mtakazoweza ila tunzeni idea zote mlizopewa na with time mtakuwa mnapitia ideas na kuendelea kurekebisha, si mnafahamu mtaka yote kwa pupa.......................

LOL . . . Mzee your comment has been noted. Thank you.

 

[Sanctus Mtsimbe]

I agree. Let me put some thoughts together on the way forward for the TPN and I will share them with you.

Asante Dotori, "We Will Use obstacles as stepping stones to success in TPN" . . . . LOL

 

[Njimba Nsalilwe]

Mkuu Njimba, hii thread nitaifanyia majumuisho na kuwapelekea members ili nao watoe maoni yao.

Kwa sasa tunao Madaktari, Engineers, Waalimu etc. actually its a mixture of all professionals. Others are even readers from respective professional organizations.

According to 2002 Census, there could be a toatl of about 1.5 Millions Professionals with specialized training from form IV to University Level. However, there could be around 500,000 only graduates. If we open up membership to others baas well then we may be talking of 5 Million members. We should at least be able to set a strategy on how we can increase membership.

Is pity that out of say almost 40 M residents around 500 000 are graduates. Tanzania we have a long way to go.

Mr President increase membership, yes, that is good idea, but there is another side of the coin, how to accommodate all of them, ha! ha! ha! ha! think of that also.

I do not like Tanzanian politics, as is full of people who are not politician themselves at first place. That is why I think if TPN can manage to bring together all professionals future leaders can come from there, TPN be can be a strong engine to mould future leaders, businessmen, professionals, etc.

I also do not like an idea of TPN to establish a bank. TPN should concentrate on technical part of how to help people to handle their business. Leave banks to handle money, but you should concetrate on how to educate people on how to use the money they have taken from the bank. If I am not mistaken even CEOs of banks are members of TPN.

Nawakilisha

Njimba

 

[ques]

This sounds like a trap buddies ... why should we meet?? Who told him that we are proffessionals nway!!

My opinion is that, mr. Sanctus ... stay the hell away from JF members!!

 

[Sanctus Mtsimbe]

Is pity that out of say almost 40 M residents around 500 000 are graduates. Tanzania we have a long way to go.

Mr President increase membership, yes, that is good idea, but there is another side of the coin, how to accommodate all of them, ha! ha! ha! ha! think of that also.

I do not like Tanzanian politics, as is full of people who are not politician themselves at first place. That is why I think if TPN can manage to bring together all professionals future leaders can come from there, TPN be can be a strong engine to mould future leaders, businessmen, professionals, etc.

I also do not like an idea of TPN to establish a bank. TPN should concentrate on technical part of how to help people to handle their business. Leave banks to handle money, but you should concetrate on how to educate people on how to use the money they have taken from the bank. If I am not mistaken even CEOs of banks are members of TPN.

Nawakilisha

Njimba

Njimba, although we may be talking of 5 M potential members, it is not necessarily that all of them can be active and involved. For example, am aware that UDSM convocation members database is having about 40,000 graduates. However I have never seen many in convocation functions. I doubt if in a single event of convocation they can be above 1000.

Although we may approximate potential Members to 5 M, we can initially target few of them who are energetic and commited. We will need to open up chapters in regions to start with as well as abroad. We will need to discuss the strategies in TPN.

I think your idea about TPN managing to bring together all professionals and future leaders is excellent. We need to work on philosophy of UZALENDO in a real sense. And if the cohesion of Professionals who are WAZALENDO can be so strong, then TPN could be true the engine to mould future leaders, businessmen, professionals, etc

Regarding TPN Bank, yes it may not be the right time now, but believe me one of the biggest problems is in financing the plans and activities of TPN. We MUST build our own strength instead of depending on Donors or Commercial Banks with difficult conditions. We can start with TPN Fund, some sort of specialized SACCOS just to make assist Members and TPN move smoothly while we work on different challenges.

 

[Sanctus Mtsimbe]

This sounds like a trap buddies ... why should we meet?? Who told him that we are proffessionals nway!!

My opinion is that, mr. Sanctus ... stay the hell away from JF members!!

!!!!!!!!???????

I wish u could have gone through few posts in this thread to understand what has been achieved so far. However, thank you for posting and be blessed.

 

[Sam GM]

This sounds like a trap buddies ... why should we meet?? Who told him that we are proffessionals nway!!

My opinion is that, mr. Sanctus ... stay the hell away from JF members!!

Huyu mwenzetu naona kafyatuka tu, taratibu bwana mdogo.

 

[kipanga mweupe]

Mr. Mtsimbe nakubaliana nawe sana kwa uliloanzisha, nami nipo mbioni kuwasiliana nawe na kujiunga na TPN kama mmojawapo wa Diaspora kwani baadhi yetu tunataka kuja nyumbani sasa.

Na nilikujua toka wakati wa Mnazi Mmoja Applied Computer nikiwa mwanafunzi wako.

Nakutakia kila la kheri na nimekuwa nafuatilia maendeleo ya TPN toka wakati bado kamati ya uanzishwaji.......hongera kwa juhudi zako binafsi na wale wote waliofanikisha ikafikia hapo.

Tupo pamoja, na tunakuja.........!!!!!!

 

[F2S]

Umoja ni nguvu utengano ni udhaifu, napenda kuwapongeza TPN kwa kualika wana JF ktk umoja wao. Nafikiri ukijiunga na Tpn au umoja wowote ule ni opportunite kubwa ya kujiendeleza wewe mwenyewe na Taifa kwa ujumla. Nadhani ndani ya TPN kuna wataalamu mbalimbali na wazoefu wa Viwanda, usafiri, banks, ustawi wa jamii, uongozi bora, mikataba, biashara za nje na ndani nk. Ila nitoe angalizo kidogo kwani tuna profesional societies nyingi Tz lakini hazina msaada sana hasa kwa mwananchi wa kawaida. Hebu tumieni wazoefu ndani ya TPN kusaidia kupunguza kero hapo bongo. Kuna kero ambazo nahisi kama Society TPN mnaweza kujaribu kuzishughulikia zikamsaidia hata mtanzania wa kawaida, mfano usafiri mkakopa mabasi makubwa sio vipanya from outside na kumanage ipasavyo si mtakuwa mmesaidi while nanyi mkiingiza kipato. Who knows mnaweza kujidevelop na kuanzisha even kiwanda in the future. Ndio watu wanavyofanya nchi za wenzetu. Hebu jaribu kuafatilia history ya makampuni makubwa duniani yalianza na yameendelea vipi. Wazo langu binafsi
Once again Thanks TPN

 

[Njimba Nsalilwe]

Who knows mnaweza kujidevelop na kuanzisha even kiwanda in the future. Ndio watu wanavyofanya nchi za wenzetu. Hebu jaribu kuafatilia history ya makampuni makubwa duniani yalianza na yameendelea vipi. Wazo langu binafsi
Once again Thanks TPN

F2S

Na wewe unahitajika leta mchango wake,

Remember, Mjenga nchi ni mwananchi. Njoo tuungane na TPN tujenge nchi, mawazo yako ni bomba sana!

Njimba

 

[Sam GM]

Umoja ni nguvu utengano ni udhaifu, napenda kuwapongeza TPN kwa kualika wana JF ktk umoja wao. Nafikiri ukijiunga na Tpn au umoja wowote ule ni opportunite kubwa ya kujiendeleza wewe mwenyewe na Taifa kwa ujumla. Nadhani ndani ya TPN kuna wataalamu mbalimbali na wazoefu wa Viwanda, usafiri, banks, ustawi wa jamii, uongozi bora, mikataba, biashara za nje na ndani nk. Ila nitoe angalizo kidogo kwani tuna profesional societies nyingi Tz lakini hazina msaada sana hasa kwa mwananchi wa kawaida. Hebu tumieni wazoefu ndani ya TPN kusaidia kupunguza kero hapo bongo. Kuna kero ambazo nahisi kama Society TPN mnaweza kujaribu kuzishughulikia zikamsaidia hata mtanzania wa kawaida, mfano usafiri mkakopa mabasi makubwa sio vipanya from outside na kumanage ipasavyo si mtakuwa mmesaidi while nanyi mkiingiza kipato. Who knows mnaweza kujidevelop na kuanzisha even kiwanda in the future. Ndio watu wanavyofanya nchi za wenzetu. Hebu jaribu kuafatilia history ya makampuni makubwa duniani yalianza na yameendelea vipi. Wazo langu binafsi
Once again Thanks TPN

F2S,

Tuwape mda tu hawa TPN labda hapo mbeleni watatuonyesha mambo makubwa nafikiri changamoto zako wataziona.

 

[Njimba Nsalilwe]

Njimba, although we may be talking of 5 M potential members, it is not necessarily that all of them can be active and involved. For example, am aware that UDSM convocation members database is having about 40,000 graduates. However I have never seen many in convocation functions. I doubt if in a single event of convocation they can be above 1000.

Although we may approximate potential Members to 5 M, we can initially target few of them who are energetic and commited. We will need to open up chapters in regions to start with as well as abroad. We will need to discuss the strategies in TPN.

I think your idea about TPN managing to bring together all professionals and future leaders is excellent. We need to work on philosophy of UZALENDO in a real sense. And if the cohesion of Professionals who are WAZALENDO can be so strong, then TPN could be true the engine to mould future leaders, businessmen, professionals, etc

Regarding TPN Bank, yes it may not be the right time now, but believe me one of the biggest problems is in financing the plans and activities of TPN. We MUST build our own strength instead of depending on Donors or Commercial Banks with difficult conditions. We can start with TPN Fund, some sort of specialized SACCOS just to make assist Members and TPN move smoothly while we work on different challenges.

Sanctus,

I think we have reached somewhere, I am now accepting your "Karibu" it is time for action, I am on my way to TPN's office to register myself. I believe that Mjenga Nchi ni Mwananchi.

We will discuss all TPN's shortfall live. However, not under this name. When is the next members meeting?

See you there Mr President and God bless you.

Njimba

 

[Njimba Nsalilwe]

F2S,

Tuwape mda tu hawa TPN labda hapo mbeleni watatuonyesha mambo makubwa nafikiri changamoto zako wataziona.

GM,

I can see tunafikiria kitu kimoja na kwa wakati mmoja!

what a coincidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Njimba

 

[Wakunyuti]

Bwana Mtsimbe..usiishie hapa tu sasa na kwa michuzi,..juhudi zifanyike kujinadi zaidi kwa jamii ili waweze kuelewa mnafanya nini na mna vision ipi....i hope mtapata member wengi zaidi na wenye mawazo chanya zaidi yakukipeleka chama chenu kwenye mafanikio mnayoyataraji...msichoke..pigeni mzigo ..tafuteni kondoo wa bwana...chama kiwe na nguvu..natumaini kuna vichwa vingi tu (Professionals) nje ya chama chenu vyenye uwezo mkubwa sana na machungu yanayohitajika kusukuma gurudumu la maendeleo ya nchi yetu tatizo wanakosa nafasi ya kuonyesha na kutumia uwezo wao ili wasaidie kusukuma gurudumu hilo...so ingekua vyema chama chenu kikawa kama daraja lakuwatoa huko walipo..kuwaleta pamoja na kutengezeza mazingira ambayo yatawafanya wajisikie na kuguswa kutumia uwezo wao wote na nguvu zao katika kuliletea taifa letu maendeleo ya kweli.........wako wengi sana lakini wanakosa morali na hari ya kuliinua taifa lao..so wanaishia kujinufaisha wenyewe na elimu zao..which is not wrong but ingefaa zaidi kama wangejijali wao na taifa lao kwa pamoja...but tatizo tunarudi pale pale wanakosa sehemu na mazingira muafaka yakutoa mengi yalio kwenye vichwa vyao kulisaidi taifa....

so this is your challenge bw. Mtsimbe.

 

[FairPlayer]

Mimi ni mwanachama wa TPN, ingawa sijapata muda kujishugulisha rasmi.

Sidhani kama bwana Sanctus Msimbe anataka nikajiunge pale kama Fair Player, anachotaka yeye ni kujiunga kwa jina langu halisi la Mwakaleli Donatus. Siri yangu ya kujiita FairPlayer itabakia yangu.

Hoja ya majina halisi sioni mantiki yake kwa hapa JF

Asanteni sana

 

[SHIRIMA.M]

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