eddy25r
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I see you commiting suicide if Jubilee wins again[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]punguza povu.. NASA surporters think they know everything ..hata the future
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Jubilee wanaringa, They have Majority Rule in Parliament, wait for it
Jubilee wanaringa, They have Majority Rule in Parliament, wait for it
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We shall revist hiyo ni maneno ya Mheshimiwa Rais Kenyatta. Katiba ya sasa ya Kenya ni kama utumbo imejisokota sokota hata haijulikani nani ni nani
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pingli-nywee
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For real man, ukiwaskiza hawa NASA huwa wako offbeat, hadi nasikia kudoze nadai coffee!
Sammuel999
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Engineer levi Devin
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The only person who can dissolve Parliament is the president,and not the court ,but t can give directive which can be overturned by the president or Parliament itself .
Kafrican
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Inaitwa checks and balance, no arm of government has ultimate power , but if the law is broken then the court can disolve parliament if its there illegally..
The last paragraph of chapter 1 of the constitution talks about any attempt to establish an illegal government.
Next point. The 2/3 gender rule is on the same paragraph as the right to vote in a free and fair election... If the presidential election was annulled by supreme court for not being in accordance with the constitution, do you think parliament will be allowed to sit there illegally? The constitution is the supreme law of the land, no arm of government is bigger than the constitution.. Because the constitution represents the soverign will, if it says 2/3 gender then that's what needs to happen
3rd point, parliament was warned ro pass that law before going to a new election because they risk being dissolved, wakajifanya wajanja, this is the year of history making, they will become the first parliament to be dissolved for being in violation of the constitution
mwathadan
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The constitution cannot force leaders into people even the courts know that...those are elective sits not appointments.to be able to meet that criteria you'll have to change the mentality of most Kenyans and it can't happen overnight.. The supreme will of the people overrides everything
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Sammuel999
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Thank you
People here stuck in kanu era thinking the president is the supreme leader .....Uhuru can only fire the people in his office ....ypu know secretary wake nk.....hayo mengine yote hawezi.....
Hata Cj itabidi referendum ndio maraga atolewe na akikaa aftrr referendum hehehehe mtatiiiii....people in parliament will serve jail sentenses
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Sammuel999
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Yes...but the same people gave that constitution mandate to be their guide....mmmh...nvm....know what you wanna know!!!
Katiba iko hapa kukaa
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mwathadan
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With the jubilee numbers they'll easily call for a referendum to ammend the constitution you of a the people you should know that......but personally I think those were political statements they'll do nothing of that sort
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mwathadan
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And you think that will make NASA the winner or what's your point??even NASA haven't met that criteria
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Engineer levi Devin
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They annulled because the president had not been sworn in ,once sworn in the judiciary's hands are handcuffed same way with the Parliament once they are sworn in its only the President who can dissolve the Parliament and not judiciary my friend .read the constitution in a broader perspective you will understand. executive and the legislature is there to check the judiciary not to abuse its powers.
Kafrican
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But the MP's were sworn in illegally in the first place!! Therefore making their swearing in 'null and void" They think they are MPs but in real sense they are not!!! Read that 1st chapter of the constitution, last paragraph, any attempt to establish a government that is not in compliance with the constitution is illegal....
Its no different than if Raila were to declares and swear himself in as the next president, that is what the MPs have done basically speaking..hehe, ngoja uone wakiambiwa waregeshe mpaka mshahara! Hahah
Engineer levi Devin
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Nakuhurumia kijana ,but anyway jipe moyo. what is the illegality part of it? because of the 2/3 gender rule? it was not even passed in Parliament. again you can not force people to elect women simply because they are vying ,they must demonstrate their capabilities .
Kafrican
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You don't understand... When we voted for this constitution, some laws were too ambiguous, they they say what should happen but don't describe step by step how it should happen...
Parliament was thus given timelines, that by this date, this clause of the constitution must be defined futher through a bill..
That's why since 2010 you have seen parliament rush to pass a number of priority bills just b4 they break for december holiday of for election..this is because those bills are a constitutional requiremnt and not passing them results in a direct violation of the constitution. Infact it will be a gross violation of the constitution.
The only way they can save themselves is if the first day of opening, first order of business they pass tha lt gender rule law. Last time they were sued by government funded KHRC , if khrc goes to court again to tell court that parliament has not complied with the constitution that gives them the mandate to serve, then parliament will have no choice but to dissolve call for another election and comply with the constitution...
And BTW, to me this is not about JAP or NASA, I could care less on this particular instance...I hate impunity and leaders who disregard the most fundumental rule of law
Kafrican
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Ohh and to answer your question, the illegality part of it is that they failed to pass a law within the timeline stipulated by the constitution... It was the responsibility of parliament to pass a law that was going to define how the 2/3 gender rule of elective position was going to be achieved. Leading to what we call a constitutional crisis...