Kadhi courts has no place in the constitution

[Ishmael]

Jifurahishe tu Kafiri !

Kwahiyo leo umekiri au umeshindwa kutuletea au onyesha wapi ilipo Injil ambayo Allah wenu anadai aliiteremsha.

Unaona tatizo la kufuata mkumbo lilivyo baya na kuwatia aibu kila siku?

Astaghafurillah

 

[TanzaniaLaw]

Soma Sura ya 19 na ya 4 katika Qur'an !....yote hiyo ni Injil :A S 11:

Kumbe kuran ni mkusanyiko wa vitabu. Kwahiyo nyie hamna Injil bali ni kurani Biblia, Aiseeh.

 

[TanzaniaLaw]

'Mteremsho wa Kitabu hiki (Qur'an) umetokana na Mwenyezi Mungu, Mwenye Nguvu, Mwenye Hekima.

'Hakika Sisi tumekuteremshia Kitabu hiki (Qur'an) kwa Haki.Basi muabudu Mwenyezi Mungu ukimsafia Dini Yeye tu.

'Hakika Dini safi ni ya Mwenyezi Mungu tu, na wale wanao wafanya wenginewe kuwa ni walinzi wakisema: Sisi hatuwaabudu ila wapate kutusogeza kumkaribiu Mwenyezi Mungu. Hakika Mwenyezi Mungu atahukumu baina yao katika wanayo khitilafiana. Mwenyezi Mungu hamwongoi aliye mwongo (na) kafiri.

'Lau kuwa Mwenyezi Mungu angetaka kuwa na mwana basi bila shaka angeli mteua amtakaye katika alio waumba. Subhanahu, ametakasika na hayo ! (ya uzushi kuwa ana mwana !) Yeye ni Mwenyezi Mungu Mmoja, Mtenda atakalo.

'Ameumba mbingu na ardhi kwa Haki. Hufunika usiku juu ya mchana, na hufunika mchna juu ya usiku. Na amefanya jua na mwezi vitumike. Kila kimoja wapo kinakwenda kwa kipindi kilicho wekewa. Jueni (ili) mtanabahi ! Yeye ndiye Mwenye Nguvu, Mwenye Kusamehe!

'Amekuumbeni kutokana na nafsi moja. Kisha akamfanya mwenziwe (Hawa) katika nafsi ile ile. Kisha akakuleteeni wanyama wa mifugo jozi nane. Akakuumbeni katika matumbo ya Mama zenu, umbo baada ya umbo (hatua kwa hatua !) katika viza (mifuko) mitatu. Huyu Ndiye Mwenyezi Mungu. Mola wenu Mlezi. Ufalme ni wake. Hapana mungu (mwingine) isipokuwa Yeye. Basi nyinyi (makafiri) mnageuzwa wapi !? (nani anaye wadanganya !?)

'Mkikufuru basi Mwenyezi Mungu si mwenye haja nanyi, lakini hafurahii kukufuru kwa waja wake. Na mkishukuru, Yeye hufurahika nanyi. Wala mbebaji habebi mzigo wa mwingine. Kisha marejeo ni kwa Mola wenu Mlezi. Hapo atakuambieni mlokuwa mkiyafanya. Hakika Yeye (Mwenyezi Mungu) ni Mwenye kuyajua yaliyomo vifuani (mwenu).

.................................Starehe na ukafiri wako (ni) kwa muda mchache. Kwani hakika wewe utakuwa miongoni mwa watu wa motoni.

....................ati watakuwa sawa wale wanao jua na wasio jua !? Hakika wanao kumbuka ni wale walio na akili.

Qur'an: 39:1-9

Allah anadai kuwa Aliteremsha Injil kabla ya Quran. Sasa tuonyeshe ipo wapi hiyo Injil. Sina muda wa kusoma Quran na kuuita Injil. Au kulani siku hizi imekuwa ni Mkusanyiko wa Vitabu kama Biblia ya Wakristo?

Injil mnayo au hamna?

 

[TanzaniaLaw]

....People of the Book ni wale waliofuata mafundisho ya Yesu (Mungu Mmoja - Injil) na si wale waliofuata mafundisho yaliyochakachuliwa (miungu watatu - Biblia) TanzaniaLaw aka ISHAMael

Nionyeshe Injil aliyo teremsha Allah. Sina muda na aya za Quran unazo ziita Injil, au siku hizi Quran imekuwa ni Mkusanyiko wa Vitabu = BIBLIA?

 

[SILENT WHISPER]

Teh teh teh!
Father of nation my foot!
Who gave him that tittle? Who?

Call me whatever you want but the truth MUST be Said.

What is your definition of Tanzanian?
The one who bend backwards to accommodate MFUMO KRISTO?
or the one who is A Catholics base?
Or it could be any citizen who care about his Country so much so that He/she will tell THE TRUTH and NOTHING BUT TRUTH?

People like urself are the poison of JUSTICE!
You want everyone of us to Lick Nyereres backside!
Thats NOT going to happen pal.

I love my Country, and I will tell you anything which I Think its True, regardless if you liked it or Not.

Na huyo bwana mwambie awahurumie wale wanaoharibiwa na wachungaji makanisani.
Mimj niko physically fit!

read your sources ....nyerere is far far better than mwamedi....mwamedi falls under the same category as the likes of hitler and idd amin.... mwamedi was a murderer, Pilate, peadophile jst to mention the few....if mwamed were alive today he wld hv been rotting behind bars jst like babu sea and papi kocha.

if you wanna blame nyerere ..... then u knw nothing abt the late mwamedi.

 

[TanzaniaLaw]

Jifurahishe tu Kafiri !

When Allah lied on you that he gave Injil to Jesus, your deity didn't know that we will ask him to show us where is it? You can't and he can't. Quran is not Injil. Show me the Injil of Jesus.

 

[jozeenjau]

Wacha kujihangaisha na mambo yaliyo letwa na wazungu na waarabu sisi waafrika tulikuwa na mna mila na desturi zetu. Hiyo biblia na quruan ni ya kwao. Kwetu hayatakiwi kuwa na nafasi amkeni mko usingizini.

 

[Ishmael]

The current debate is about whether or not these “Kadhi” courts should be entrenched in the new constitution of Tanzania.

Confrontations rivalry on the mainland (Tanganyika) between the Muslims “minority” who are 35% and the Christians “majority” who are more than 55% have flared up frequently in the past few years. These exasperating tensions are too complex to be labeled as a fundamental antagonism based on religion. Neither Muslims nor Christians (in Tanganyika and Zanzibar) form a homogeneous block.

The endless debate in the "Bunge Maalum", which has focused itself on the (Mahakama ya Kadhi) kadhi’s courts and the constitutional review, has allowed extreme elements from both sides to speak out with great vehemence potency and so increased tensions between the two communities. It has crystallized the perceived hurts and prejudices that have lain under the surface of a thin veneer of mutual tolerance. Aspects of the entire situation must be examined for the influence of political elements who use religion for their own ethnic reasons.

So we stay with the whole phrase – rule of law – with each one appreciating it according to her needs or as the occasion demands.

Can’t Tanzanian Muslims rule themselves by themselves without being in the constitution? What is the big deal, a religious court being entrenched in the constitution that rules over different religions? What is the hidden agenda? I argue Tanzanians to learn from Nigeria, Pakistan and other nations with Kadhis courts and Islamic Sharia "Law"……..understand the meaning of Kafiris as described by Muslims and what sharia law advocates to the same.

Readers should remember that the fellows who are drafting the constitution are purely lawyers by profession, and going by their egos and personality they are fellows who can easily convince and confuse your reasoning without much ado. They can easily prove a day is a night. Entrenching the kadhis court in the constitution is purely improper, unmeritorious, unconstitutional and against human rights.
Therefore the needs of both the Christians, Hindus, Muslims and any other religion was catered for.

There are unforeseen consequences which are not apparent as per now but of which the coe (lawyers) are aware of. Who is a Muslim anyway? Where does she/he live? Whom does she/he live with? How does coexisting with Muslims affect your lifestyle and culture? Will inclusion of kadhi's court in the constitution change all these? The answer is yours.


Christians in Tanzania are arguing that including the Kadhi Courts in the constitution is (apart from favoring one religion) setting the stage for the introduction of Sharia law and simultaneously joining Organization of Islamic Conference “OIC”.


Do you think Kadhi’s courts should be part of the new Constitution? Shouldn't the constitution protect the interest of the majority as well as minority?By including Kadhis court in our nation constitution, it is a favor to one religion. It would mean that if need be, we could also include, e.g. Artificial contraceptive clause to favor the Catholic Church in the constitution. Otherwise, anything to do with religion and faith must be left to the concerned believers.

Source: Do you think Kadhi’s courts should be part of the new Tanzanian Constitution?

kwahiyo unasemaje kama ni unconstituional? Weka hoja acha mbwembwe zako hapa

Read this thread young man.

 

[Ishmael]

we are too many ! including Jesus !

Jesus never said He was a Muzzrat

 

[Dragunov Sniper]

jesus never said he was a muzzrat

jamani mambo ya dini si mahali pake hapa kama mmekuja kuhubiri dini token i nje ndo muanze hiyo biashara yenu.

 

[Dragunov Sniper]

read this thread young man.

afu wewe ishmael unaonekana mtu wa kupenda mambo ya dini eeenh? Kahubiri huko kwenu basi unawapoteza wenzio kwenye mada. Ushauri wa bure huo

 

[Ishmael]

afu wewe ishmael unaonekana mtu wa kupenda mambo ya dini eeenh? Kahubiri huko kwenu basi unawapoteza wenzio kwenye mada. Ushauri wa bure huo

Oooops, here we go again. What is the use of B 2?

 

[Ishmael]

jamani mambo ya dini si mahali pake hapa kama mmekuja kuhubiri dini token i nje ndo muanze hiyo biashara yenu.

So, why do Muzzratagastans crying for Kadhi Court if it is not because of their religious commands?

 

[Dragunov Sniper]

so, why do muzzratagastans crying for kadhi court if it is not because of their religious commands?

nin-compoop!!

 

[Ishmael]

nin-compoop!!

That fact really pisses you Muzzrats off, doesn't it?

Like most non theists and false muhammadans, you lack the personal awareness AND the intellectual honesty to admit that you haven't got so much as a single, solitary clue. You've added nothing of significance to this discussion of Kadhi Court, with the possible exception of your willful diabolical ignorance.

 

[Dragunov Sniper]

That fact really pisses you Muzzrats off, doesn't it?

Like most non theists and false muhammadans, you lack the personal awareness AND the intellectual honesty to admit that you haven't got so much as a single, solitary clue. You've added nothing of significance to this discussion of Kadhi Court, with the possible exception of your willful diabolical ignorance.

To hell alone with your nin-compoop!!

 

[Ishmael]

To hell alone with your nin-compoop!!

All slop and no substance muhammadan. You are a typical ignorance-flaunting Muzzratagastan, flailing wildly to stay above water and addled to the point of spewing fluent gibberish.

 

[Dragunov Sniper]

All slop and no substance muhammadan. You are a typical ignorance-flaunting Muzzratagastan, flailing wildly to stay above water and addled to the point of spewing fluent gibberish.

Go to hell you cockroach!! you have a Bad and severely odoring mouth with too many deceiving words! none will pay a heed of what you are imoarting before the people!! nonsense

 

[Ishmael]

Go to hell you cockroach!! you have a Bad and severely odoring mouth with too many deceiving words! none will pay a heed of what you are imoarting before the people!! nonsense

Muzzrat, personally, I'm betting that: 1) either you can't provide any evidence that proves your ridiculous claim; or 2) you're simply refusing to incriminate yourself as an obvious liar.

Which is it?

 

[Dragunov Sniper]

muzzrat, personally, i'm betting that: 1) either you can't provide any evidence that proves your ridiculous claim; or 2) you're simply refusing to incriminate yourself as an obvious liar.

which is it?

none of your betting have proven anything so far, you are a nambypamby and barbercueman slum boy, am not ridiculouring here, you must be abnormal.