Kanisa Katoliki mnakwenda wapi? Mmesahau kipigo cha Padre Kitima

[gallow bird]

Hizo ni story na mitazamo ya watu tu, hizo silaha zikipitishwa zinatumika wapi?? Ni serikali yenyewe inaagiza au nani anaagiza?? 🤔 🤔

Serikali iagize silaha kwa jina la makanisa!?

 

[Bangalow]

Serikali iagize silaha kwa jina la makanisa!?

Mbona kama hujamuelewa Dr slaa asee. Msikilize vizuri na pia jiridhishe kwanza CCP ni nini na kwanini yeye alipokuwa katibu wa TEC alizuia (kwa maelekezo ya maaskofu wa RC) CCP kutumiwa kisiasa au kiuharati ikiwemo kupitiaha silaha.

 

[gallow bird]

Mbona kama hujamuelewa Dr slaa asee. Msikilize vizuri na pia jiridhishe kwanza CCP ni nini na kwanini yeye alipokuwa katibu wa TEC alizuia (kwa maelekezo ya maaskofu wa RC) CCP kutumiwa kisiasa au kiuharati ikiwemo kupitiaha silaha.

Unaleta habari za kutomuelewa Ili u-neutralize siyo!?

 

[Bangalow]

Unaleta habari za kutomuelewa Ili u-neutralize siyo!?

Hujaelewa content ya huo mkutano. Unachoongea wewe is as if Slaa alikuwa anatoa statement kwamba kanisa katoliki linaingiza na kupitisha silaha nchini. Reality ni kwamba kanisa katoliki kupitia mtwndaji wake wa TEC wakati huo Dr Slaa lilizuia uwezekano wowote wa wanasiasa au wenye nia ovu kutumia Baraza la Krikrito Tanzania CCT kupenyeza agenda zao. Usihemuke

 

[Steven Joel Ntamusano]

Akiwa katika dakika za mwisho za uhai wake duniani JPM alipewa mpako wa wagonjwa na Askofu Pengo pamoja na paroko wa Oysterbay.

Haiwezekani msiba wake eti Kanisa limtenge Pengo, huwezi kulitenga kanisa na uongozi wa juu wa Tanzania.

1961 kanisa lilisali novena maalum ya kuiombea Tanganyika, haishangazi misukosuko inakuwa mikubwa lakini inayeyuka tu na kupotelea angani, sababu uwepo wa ulinzi wa kimungu ulioombwa na kanisa katoliki.

Nimemsoma Askofu Bagonza namna anavyopiga vijembe serikali inavyojiweka karibu na msiba wa Pengo.

Angerudi nyuma Baba Askofu na kuitazama nchi hii ilivyokuwa kabla SSH hajawa Rais wa JMT. Angekumbuka namna Kikwete alivyomshughulikia Gwajima kwa kumkejeli RIP Pengo.

 

[M O N S T E R]

Waislam walianza kujenga shule kipindi cha mwinyi,tena baada ya malima kuwa waziri wa kwanza wa elimu muislam, kabla waislam wakiwekewa mizengwe na wizara,sasa waislam Wana shule zaidi ya 300

Kaangalie performances zao and then come for further discussions.
Hivi chuo cha TANESCO cha Morogoro mlichopewa na Mkapa kinaendeleaje? Na Universities mlizojenga wenyewe ni ngapi na zina maendeleo gani? The richest folks in TZ are Muslims, mchango wao ni upi kwenye ilmu dunia.

 

[gallow bird]

Kaangalie performances zao and then come for further discussions.

Kuna shule za kiislam nyingi tu Zina performance nzuri,wewe shule ya waislam unayoijua ni haramain na kinondoni Muslim,hata hivyo hatuzungumzii performance bali kujenga shule, kuhusu performance ule ujinga alioufanya ndalichako 2012 huenda ndiyo michezo wao kwa shule Islamic

Hivi chuo cha TANESCO cha Morogoro mlichopewa na Mkapa kinaendeleaje?

Kinaendelea vizuri,kinatoa watu competent

Na Universities mlizojenga wenyewe ni ngapi na zina maendeleo gani? The richest folks in TZ are Muslims, mchango wao ni upi kwenye ilmu dunia.

Richest folks wanalipa Kodi serikalini, serikali ndiyo inatoa huduma za jamii ikiwemo elimu

 

[gallow bird]

Hujaelewa content ya huo mkutano. Unachoongea wewe is as if Slaa alikuwa anatoa statement kwamba kanisa katoliki linaingiza na kupitisha silaha nchini. Reality ni kwamba kanisa katoliki kupitia mtwndaji wake wa TEC wakati huo Dr Slaa lilizuia uwezekano wowote wa wanasiasa au wenye nia ovu kutumia Baraza la Krikrito Tanzania CCT kupenyeza agenda zao. Usihemuke

Wrong,hapo kasema silaha zilipitishwa kwa jina la kanisa,zingepitishwa kwa jina la msikiti ungeendelea kujifanya Hilo ni suala la kawaida?
Halafu kama kanisa linatumika kupitisha vitu,hutumika bure!?

 

[Lucha]

Ukiwa mjinga kama Padre Kitime lazima kichapo kikihusu hamna huruma katika hilo

 

[M O N S T E R]

Kuna shule za kiislam nyingi tu Zina performance nzuri,wewe shule ya waislam unayoijua ni haramain na kinondoni Muslim,hata hivyo hatuzungumzii performance bali kujenga shule, kuhusu performance ule ujinga alioufanya ndalichako 2012 huenda ndiyo michezo wao kwa shule Islamic

Kinaendelea vizuri,kinatoa watu competent

Richest folks wanalipa Kodi serikalini, serikali ndiyo inatoa huduma za jamii ikiwemo elimu

-Baseless accusations kuhusu Ndalichako can't be used as an excuse.
-I meant the rich folks to direct invest in education.

 

[gallow bird]

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-Baseless accusations kuhusu Ndalichako can't be used as an excuse.

Seems you know nothing about that mess.. baseless!!

-I meant the rich folks to direct invest in education.

Have Your rich folks directly invested in education?

 

[M O N S T E R]

Seems you know nothing about that mess.. baseless!!

Have Your rich folks directly invested in education?

Even some of my family members have invested in education, so the answer to this is a very big YEAH.
About the 2012 'mess' would you please put your supporting proofs, it's decades since I've been to TZ.

 

[gallow bird]

Even some of my family members have invested in education, so the answer to this is a very big YEAH.

Plenty of Muslim individuals have invested in education including my school Mets(mates)

About the 2012 'mess' would you please put your supporting proofs, it's decades since I've been to TZ.

So why you said baseless accusations while you know nothing?

 

[M O N S T E R]

Plenty of Muslim individuals have invested in education including my school Mets(mates)

So why you said baseless accusations while you know nothing?

I said baseless because I've never heard of anyone with proofs on this matter, allegations are still allegations and they can spread like bushfires so for those whom they please their wish will definitely be for everyone to believe them.

 

[Monetary doctor]

Mkuu turakuwa wote pale. Katika hiyo Misa Mimi nitakuwa msimamizi

Naomba uage lugalo mm ndo msoma risala