Kenya abandons plan to electrify its SGR citing high costs and irregular power supply

[MVUMBUZI]

Sisi tunajenga Stiegler Gorge la kuzalisha
> 2000 MW, halafu kuna takataka wanataka kupinga?

fvck chadema na wapinga maendeleo wote!

Kumwita binadamu takataka !!!! brother ninyi ndo huwa mnaangukiwa na containers au kulaliwa na matanker zinabaki suruali au mashati tu au mafuvu. ukifuatilia kwa nini amekufa vibaya hivyo unakuta aliwahi waita wenzake takataka na Mungu akaamua kumgeuza taka yeye

 

[Lwiva]

Njia nyeupeeeee Kwa Museveni kujoin central corridor! With all hydropower projects in Uganda there's no way Uganda will settle for diesel trains, Nah whaoo...That COW thing must have told Kenya a lesson not to be snitch not greed!

True true Uganda need reli ya Umeme kazi tumemaliza

 

[Cicero]

u need about 10000 mw before 2020 for an efficient electrified sgr

Nope. Iko hivi:
1. Phase 1 ya Dar-Moro is just 200km long. Hiyo itakuwa imekamilika by 2020
2. The 20 or so trains ordered by RAHCO cannot need 10,000 MW to travel 200km.
3. We just need a good 200 or so MW dedicated to the SGR. Kumbuka our trains are not high speed, 160kph kwa standards za wenzetu hizo ni regional trains not high speed. So consumption ya umeme should be below 4MW per train which is the average for high speed trains.

 

[Lwiva]

Railway inakwama 7 hours njiani ...yani tangu kulaunch haijawai kua stable ...thanks Uhuru kuona mbele

Yetu itatumia Umeme na diesel acha upumbavu

 

[Cicero]

ni 160 but not as safe as class one and class 2...goodluck lakini najua ile kicheko tutawacheka itakua ya mwaka

Umeona wapi kwamba zetu ni class 3?

 

[MK254]

LOOOOL eti wiki ila mmezidi dharau na nyie.
Umeme huku wa uhakika nina miezi mingapi sijui umeme haujakatika na ukikatika mnapewa taarifa mapemaaaa.
Kuna miradi mingi inategemewa kuanza. Kinyerezi phase 2 iko 80% complete.

Mimi nina mdau hapo kwenu Dar nafanya naye project fulani nikiwa huku Nrb, juzi imechelewa kisa yeye hakua na umeme kwa nyumba usiku. Utakua na bahati labda upo jirani ya ikulu ambapo maeneo kama hayo umeme hauruhusiwi kukatika.

 

[Naton Jr]

Megawatts 200 zitatosha kuendesha locomotives na freighters zote hata na Ile ya Mtwara, Arusha, Mwanza, Kigali, Kigoma, Mpanda hizo ni megawatts nyingi sana kwa electric trains watu wanadhani electric trains zinakula umeme mwingi kumbe hamna.

Kenya wamefikia hayo maamuzi sababu mchina ndio kataka iwe hivyo kwa mujibu wa mkataba mama ni kujenga SGR isio ya train za umeme suala la umeme lilikuja baada ya Kenya kuona Tanzania tunajenga electric railway na mambo ya propaganda za uchaguzi kipindi kile.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Nope. Iko hivi:
1. Phase 1 ya Dar-Moro is just 200km long. Hiyo itakuwa imekamilika by 2020
2. The 20 or so trains ordered by RAHCO cannot need 10,000 MW to travel 200km.
3. We just need a good 200 or so MW dedicated to the SGR. Kumbuka our trains are not high speed, 160kph kwa standards za wenzetu hizo ni regional trains not high speed. So consumption ya umeme should be below 4MW per train which is the average for high speed trains.

Usijisumbue, huyo ni wivu unaomsumbua baada ya kuona matumaini waliyokuwa wanajipa kwamba na wao watapata train za umeme yawepotea, sasa lazima atafute njia ya kujiliwaza kwamba hata Tanzania pia haitopata electric railway, muulize akuambie hizo taarifa za 10,000MW zinahitajika kwa ajili ya train amezipata wapi?, akupe link ili usome, hajui lolote kuhusu mambo ya umeme wa train, wivu unamsumbua zaidi, wao wasubiri 2019, train ya kwanza bullet train itaanza safari zake hapa Africa.

 

[eliakeem]

Right on point, hebu waza Ethiopia yenye umeme mwingi treni yao inachelewa masaa saba ikisubiri umeme urejeshwe, sasa Bongo ambayo umeme ni wa mgao, wao utakuta treni zinachelewa hata wiki.

Source na Grid ya sgr itakuwa tofauti na ya matumizi mengine. I think you got the point.

 

[Barbarosa]

Kumwita binadamu takataka !!!! brother ninyi ndo huwa mnaangukiwa na containers au kulaliwa na matanker zinabaki suruali au mashati tu au mafuvu. ukifuatilia kwa nini amekufa vibaya hivyo unakuta aliwahi waita wenzake takataka na Mungu akaamua kumgeuza taka yeye

Kumbe kuna tofauti kati ya kufa vibaya na kufa vizuri? Wewe ulishawahi kufa na kufufuka? Au ulijuaje?

 

[Se-ronga]

Njia nyeupeeeee Kwa Museveni kujoin central corridor! With all hydropower projects in Uganda there's no way Uganda will settle for diesel trains, Nah whaoo...That COW thing must have told Kenya a lesson not to be snitch not greed!

Sasa hii SGR ya Kenya bila kupata mizigo ya Uganda si itakuwa TEMBO WA BLUU?,,nawaza kwa sauti..!
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[thisdayes]

portugal na turkey huwezi linganisha na chinese....ethiopia waliopt for class two rail...nyinyi mkaopt AREMA(CLASS 3) ..CHEAP IS EXPENSIVE....SASA MKIONGEZA 50 MW THATS A DROP IN THE OCEON BUDA

AREMA Class 3 ndiyo nini!? una andika kama chizi. Hizo issue za class ameziweka mchina ili awapige mabwege kama nyinyi.

 

[Bitter pill]

Kwenye bomba la mafuta mlisingizia,oh Mara terrain,oh Mara terrorism.
M7 akigeukia TZ kwa SGR,na hii mtasingizia nini?

 

[Bitter pill]

Sasa hii SGR ya Kenya bila kupata mizigo ya Uganda si itakuwa TEMBO WA BLUU?,,nawaza kwa sauti..!
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[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] dah,my ribs!

 

[mulisaaa]

Umeona wapi kwamba zetu ni class 3?

H

 

[Kafrican]

Right on point, hebu waza Ethiopia yenye umeme mwingi treni yao inachelewa masaa saba ikisubiri umeme urejeshwe, sasa Bongo ambayo umeme ni wa mgao, wao utakuta treni zinachelewa hata wiki.

Tena reli ya Ethiopiakwengine iko na level crossing ambapo reli inakutana na barabara, unlike kenya ambayo kuna daraja linapita juu ya barbara sehemu zote..... check the number of stoppages in this one journey

Train travel in Ethiopia & Djibouti - train times & fares

stopped twice between Lebu and Adama, including once for 5 minutes because we hit a goat at a road crossing. (the management company then sends some of its local staff to pay compensations)


. We arrived in Adama at 9:15 and stopped for about 40 min for an unknown reason


However the shepherd didn't want to let the train go until he gets compensated (for 70 goats, since some were pregnant and some cubs need their dead mother...). More federal and local police came, about 20 in total. The train left after 7 (!) hours of negotiations which, according the the Chinese boss in the train, included some calls to the Ethiopian minister of transport and the head of the federal police in Addis, at dusk (I suspect the shepherd let it go because they had to go home for diner, otherwise they would have stayed!). The boss told me "they do it on purpose to get money. They ask an unreasonable price. The other day we killed 12 camels and they asked for a million birr".




The train was so late than we stopped in Dire Dawa for the night.




After 1h40 of normal ride the train got stuck for 30min in the desert because there was no electricity.




Then we were running at 110 km/h according to the GPS. We stopped again because of power failure at 13:15 and power came back 1h later. Apparently they once got stuck for 10h..







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Kumbuka unlike diesel reli ya umeme ikikosa supply ya umeme inapoteza pia air condition, na kwa vile reli ni ya mwendokasi, madirisha hua yamefungwa, ikiwa ni usiku mtapoteza hadi mataa mbaki na emergency pekee

 

[eliakeem]

Tena reli ya Ethiopiakwengine iko na level crossing ambapo reli inakutana na barabara, unlike kenya ambayo kuna daraja linapita juu ya barbara sehemu zote..... check the number of stoppages in this one journey

Train travel in Ethiopia & Djibouti - train times & fares

stopped twice between Lebu and Adama, including once for 5 minutes because we hit a goat at a road crossing. (the management company then sends some of its local staff to pay compensations)


. We arrived in Adama at 9:15 and stopped for about 40 min for an unknown reason


However the shepherd didn't want to let the train go until he gets compensated (for 70 goats, since some were pregnant and some cubs need their dead mother...). More federal and local police came, about 20 in total. The train left after 7 (!) hours of negotiations which, according the the Chinese boss in the train, included some calls to the Ethiopian minister of transport and the head of the federal police in Addis, at dusk (I suspect the shepherd let it go because they had to go home for diner, otherwise they would have stayed!). The boss told me "they do it on purpose to get money. They ask an unreasonable price. The other day we killed 12 camels and they asked for a million birr".




The train was so late than we stopped in Dire Dawa for the night.




After 1h40 of normal ride the train got stuck for 30min in the desert because there was no electricity.




Then we were running at 110 km/h according to the GPS. We stopped again because of power failure at 13:15 and power came back 1h later. Apparently they once got stuck for 10h..







000000000000===========================

Kumbuka unlike diesel reli ya umeme ikikosa supply ya umeme inapoteza pia air condition, na kwa vile reli ni ya mwendokasi, madirisha hua yamefungwa, ikiwa ni usiku mtapoteza hadi mataa mbaki na emergency pekee

Hivyo vitu vya umeme au giza kwenye coaches ni issue ndogo sana. wata solve soon, wait n see.

 

[mulisaaa]

Mkuu sisi yakwetu reli haitokutana na Barabara ndomaana mjini Dar linajengwa daraja LA 3km. Pia itakuwa fenced kwenye maaeneo wanayoishi watu name vijijini

Tena reli ya Ethiopiakwengine iko na level crossing ambapo reli inakutana na barabara, unlike kenya ambayo kuna daraja linapita juu ya barbara sehemu zote..... check the number of stoppages in this one journey

Train travel in Ethiopia & Djibouti - train times & fares

stopped twice between Lebu and Adama, including once for 5 minutes because we hit a goat at a road crossing. (the management company then sends some of its local staff to pay compensations)


. We arrived in Adama at 9:15 and stopped for about 40 min for an unknown reason


However the shepherd didn't want to let the train go until he gets compensated (for 70 goats, since some were pregnant and some cubs need their dead mother...). More federal and local police came, about 20 in total. The train left after 7 (!) hours of negotiations which, according the the Chinese boss in the train, included some calls to the Ethiopian minister of transport and the head of the federal police in Addis, at dusk (I suspect the shepherd let it go because they had to go home for diner, otherwise they would have stayed!). The boss told me "they do it on purpose to get money. They ask an unreasonable price. The other day we killed 12 camels and they asked for a million birr".




The train was so late than we stopped in Dire Dawa for the night.




After 1h40 of normal ride the train got stuck for 30min in the desert because there was no electricity.




Then we were running at 110 km/h according to the GPS. We stopped again because of power failure at 13:15 and power came back 1h later. Apparently they once got stuck for 10h..







000000000000===========================

Kumbuka unlike diesel reli ya umeme ikikosa supply ya umeme inapoteza pia air condition, na kwa vile reli ni ya mwendokasi, madirisha hua yamefungwa, ikiwa ni usiku mtapoteza hadi mataa mbaki na emergency pekee

 

[mulisaaa]

Hii ndoinawachoma zaidi

 

[mulisaaa]

Unatumia nguvu nyingi kumuelimisha mtu mwenye akili zaidi yako. Nisawa na mtu anaemiliki Verosaa anamfundisha mtu mwenye Buggati jinsi gari yake ilivyo. Sisi size yetu ni Morocco au SA

Tena reli ya Ethiopiakwengine iko na level crossing ambapo reli inakutana na barabara, unlike kenya ambayo kuna daraja linapita juu ya barbara sehemu zote..... check the number of stoppages in this one journey

Train travel in Ethiopia & Djibouti - train times & fares

stopped twice between Lebu and Adama, including once for 5 minutes because we hit a goat at a road crossing. (the management company then sends some of its local staff to pay compensations)


. We arrived in Adama at 9:15 and stopped for about 40 min for an unknown reason


However the shepherd didn't want to let the train go until he gets compensated (for 70 goats, since some were pregnant and some cubs need their dead mother...). More federal and local police came, about 20 in total. The train left after 7 (!) hours of negotiations which, according the the Chinese boss in the train, included some calls to the Ethiopian minister of transport and the head of the federal police in Addis, at dusk (I suspect the shepherd let it go because they had to go home for diner, otherwise they would have stayed!). The boss told me "they do it on purpose to get money. They ask an unreasonable price. The other day we killed 12 camels and they asked for a million birr".




The train was so late than we stopped in Dire Dawa for the night.




After 1h40 of normal ride the train got stuck for 30min in the desert because there was no electricity.




Then we were running at 110 km/h according to the GPS. We stopped again because of power failure at 13:15 and power came back 1h later. Apparently they once got stuck for 10h..







000000000000===========================

Kumbuka unlike diesel reli ya umeme ikikosa supply ya umeme inapoteza pia air condition, na kwa vile reli ni ya mwendokasi, madirisha hua yamefungwa, ikiwa ni usiku mtapoteza hadi mataa mbaki na emergency pekee