Kenya Acquires Drones to fight al shabab terrorist and for regional security

[livefire]

Kuna mahali nimekuandikia air to air missile?? Umelewa chang'aa? Ant aircraft missile battery is from land brother, well effective when camouflaged, can be launched from a specialized vehicle or tank.., u need more schooling?

whichever, read acronym AAM is used with what definitions but u are partly in order. However, have you checked the terrain of Mt. Kilimanjaro itself? Do you know the use of gadgets such as the MX-15? If you intend to camouflage your weapons behind a hill then truly JWTZ is an archaic force. You just confirmed it.
POINT BLANK: You are comedy enough to sustain me through the night. Hahahahaha. Nothing you say about that Mountain redeems you man!!!! Those batteries wont reach even half the destination.

 

[Moshe Dayan]

whichever, read acronym AAM is used with what definitions but u are partly in order. However, have you checked the terrain of Mt. Kilimanjaro itself? Do you know the use of gadgets such as the MX-15? If you intend to camouflage your weapons behind a hill then truly JWTZ is an archaic force. You just confirmed it.
POINT BLANK: You are comedy enough to sustain me through the night. Hahahahaha. Nothing you say about that Mountain redeems you man!!!! Those batteries wont reach even half the destination.

Just for your record..., we have done a lot of training up there, and different units conduct different types of training.., if u ddnt know, in a military, a mountain like tht can be classified as GTI(ground of tactical importance) be warned.., usiwe inabisha vitu wakati huna taarifa..,

Ulizia kenyans waliofanya cadet monduli, ex-kilimanjaro, hua wanafanyia chooni?

Narudia, usibishe vitu usivyovijua unanifanya niamn hujui anythn about military knowledge

Ww una-google then unanijb, mm natoa vitu kichwani, hyo acronym kwa mujibu wa syllabus niliyosoma inaniambia ni anti aircraft missile.., sasa unaniambia nimekosea.., unachemka sana, usinibishie vitu hujui.

 

[livefire]

Just for your record..., we have done a lot of training up there, and different units conduct different types of training.., if u ddnt know, in a military, a mountain like tht can be classified as GTI(ground of tactical importance) be warned.., usiwe inabisha vitu wakati huna taarifa..,

Ulizia kenyans waliofanya cadet monduli, ex-kilimanjaro, hua wanafanyia chooni?

Narudia, usibishe vitu usivyovijua unanifanya niamn hujui anythn about military knowledge

Ww una-google then unanijb, mm natoa vitu kichwani, hyo acronym kwa mujibu wa syllabus niliyosoma inaniambia ni anti aircraft missile.., sasa unaniambia nimekosea.., unachemka sana, usinibishie vitu hujui.

if you are keen to check my response time u shouldnt miss the fact that am doing so withing a blink of an eye after logging in. Where gibberish is present it screams, even your officers are so laughing at you, just save face. This is a new concept in modern warfare, ''to fight like ancient people'' hahaha, place of JWTZ, na ukiambiwa u come with another line. Save face, curl up n sleep or tell me sth i dont know. Ok sir!!!!! AAM~air-air-missile....u cant be that slow. Again, dont claim anything to do with ballistic missiles. JOKE OF THE CENTURY!!! Revise your syllabus

 

[Moshe Dayan]

nimegundua hujui kitu kabisa,, hujui importance ya hills/mountains na ndo mana hujui whts a gti, just google as u always do, hizi ni muhimu for communication(radio and radar signals), also for setting up an op(observation post), kwa wenzetu walioendelea, special forces hutumia ku-pinpoint targets for laser guided missiles.., sasa ww unasema jeshi la tanzania la zamani linajificha milimani!!! Aiseeee!! I am wasting my energy!

Another thing, am not in your time zone, its morning here in beijing

 

[Moshe Dayan]

u dnt knw nothing,, nothing at all...,
Loud mouth wanna be! If u feeln the proffesion, why dnt u join? Oooohh! Must be too young, u sound kiddish!

 

[livefire]

nimegundua hujui kitu kabisa,, hujui importance ya hills/mountains na ndo mana hujui whts a gti, just google as u always do, hizi ni muhimu for communication(radio and radar signals), also for setting up an op(observation post), kwa wenzetu walioendelea, special forces hutumia ku-pinpoint targets for laser guided missiles.., sasa ww unasema jeshi la tanzania la zamani linajificha milimani!!! Aiseeee!! I am wasting my energy!

Another thing, am not in your time zone, its morning here in beijing

hahaha...umeenda kufundishwa kungfuu ama, hahaha......pole baba, What The Hell will a mountain help u in pointing pinpoint targets? At onset of hostilities it is the first target, i bet u know that. JWTZ can keep any potent stuff there considering its proximity to the Kenyan border. Kama hizo ndio wafunzwa uko china..pole sana.

 

[livefire]

u dnt knw nothing,, nothing at all...,
Loud mouth wanna be! If u feeln the proffesion, why dnt u join? Oooohh! Must be too young, u sound kiddish!

i love it when i crawl in your skin, tell us about the imaginary ''BALLISTIC MISSILE''. You are so easy to break, didnt sweat.lol.

 

[livefire]

enlist at our CADETS school to learn about modern warfare. Surely if a simple mockery breaks u down???then duh!!...u surely cant hold your guns. Everything you have said so far actually beats itself. The only sensible thing u said is about ground target identifation from the mountain but in a war scenario, no soldier will climb that mountain, forget carrying those things upthere. so dude...be realistic n bring facts here. Ballistic missiles ni wewe ulinunua? Fake storyline and you expect i corroborate it.
READ THIS: TRY HARDER, JWTZ just failed to impress again....dissappointed!! Am actually at a loss here. Get back to Tz n impart that knowledge to your units, its harmless.

 

[livefire]

Labda niongeze kitu kwamba Livefire hana neno we sema tu ukisema nchi yake naye anatafuta njia ya kuitetea at all cost.

thanx for that Mr. Bukyanagandi.

 

[mchillo]

hi ab tichaz and sidekicks,long time no see no grenade attack, guess what no one is boasting about these drones, i have cleary stated they were given to AMISOM and uganda in particular and they went along way to help them defeat al shabab in Mogadishu where they were stuck in a 2km squared location for almost four years. my only point is that if the Americans and Obama in particular want to help Kenya they should just sell them this drone technology. alternatively KDF should just send one drone to be reaped apart by an IT company in Nairobi for analysis and future mass production. 8 drones are too little. another benefit though is that the KDF will learn how to operate drones,very few countries in africa have that capability

I doubt if Kenya has the logistics required to mass produce these drones even if the Americans will allow them to do so. They lack the ability to produce simple machines like tractors; and now they want the technology to produce these higher technology drones!

 

[simplemind]

I doubt if Kenya has the logistics required to mass produce these drones even if the Americans will allow them to do so. They lack the ability to produce simple machines like tractors; and now they want the technology to produce these higher technology drones!

Modern production methods assemble rather than make from scratch. Once you have the design production becomes a matter of shopping and assembling the parts constituting drone or whatever. Hence Kenya or any African country can manufucture drones. Do not belittle tractors.A tractor has certainly more parts than a drone and is by no means a simple machine( simple machine i can think of is lever which you use to pry a lid loose or open a coke bottle). Besides modern tractors can till,plant and spray crops unmanned thanks to GPS.

 

[aminiusiamini]

so u have the audacity to call the likes of us sons of Bitches?!?! Be advised i can deginirate to a level so low you wont be able to raise your head. ''Just to satisfy your curiosity''. But for the courtsey of your mother n family please get a shawl n curl up. Stupid son of a witch!!!!!

You shovel up and put your non sense to yourself. You just a tiny person to speak of kenyans and for a gov of kenya. You just useless being.

 

[livefire]

You shovel up and put your non sense to yourself. You just a tiny person to speak of kenyans and for a gov of kenya. You just useless being.

have u seen any coat of arms in my replies to insinuate am talking for GoK?...talk of growing balls for brains. Useless kid, go to school.

 

[aminiusiamini]

Livefire habari kwanza, kama ukisoma vizuri nimesema hivyo vi-drone vinasaidia kuangalia majeshi au terrorist wako wapi [recon/scouting] kama unavyo sema. Sasa tatizo liko wapi? Kwani nani kasema humu kwamba drone hizo ni kama Predator zinazo beba mabomu ya hellfire! Au nani kasema vi-drone hivyo ni tishio kwa nchi za Africa Mashariki au kufikili Tanzania inaweza kutishwa na vijindege ambavyo vinaweza kuwa-brought down by a mere stone age anti aircraft guns; nani kasema KAF/KDF aina haki ya ku-modernise jeshi lenu!

Wewe unazungumzia mambo ya capabilities za heron/predator hivi unaweza kweli kulinganisha Raven drones ambazo unaweza kuzinyanyua kwa mkono na hazibebi air to ground missile wala bomb la aina yoyote ile! Nimeona umekuja juu hapa kuhusu comment yangu juu ya drones zilizo pelekwa Uganda! Labda nikuhulize swali, Je wewe ni a five star General wa jeshi la Uncle SAM mpaka ukajua kwa uhakika kwamba drones zilizo pelekwa Uganda haziusiki katika utafutaji majeshi ya KONY; kwa nini upendi watu wengine watoe maoni yao? Kuna mwana JF aliuliza kuhusu drones zilizo tolewa na Merikani kwa jeshi la Uganda mimi nikatoa maoni yangu, sasa imekuwa nongwa TENA!

Mleta post hii alikuwa na maana gani kuileta humu jamvini-kuna mahali amesema eti "KDF sasa itakuwa TISHIO kwa nchi jirani" - je huyu mtu anajua anacho zumgumza humu - who is afraid of a paper TIGER? eti "stay out of KDF inventories!!" nani kawaulizeni inventories la jeshi lenu? Kukosa kwenu kutafakali mambo mnaeleza kila kitu kilicho jikoni mwenu vingine vya kubuni tu! Hivi kweli kuna Mtanzania yeyote ambaye amewahi kuwa concern na jeshi lenu au kujali silaha zenu au kutangaza silaha za TANZANIA zinazo tumiwa na majeshi yetu au kujitapa kwamba tumenunua silaha fulani majirani zetu sasa watatukoma? Usifikili Jane's Defence books vina Intelligence na Analysis ya kweli kuhusu silaha na uwezo wa majeshi yote hapa duniani, wanayo andika humo ni script za maigizo ya HOLLYWOOD.

We unajuwa wapi doctrine za jeshi letu, unaleta mambo ya kubuni na propagada za nchi za magharibi; unaleta utani na a battle hardened jeshi (JWTZ) - nyie mumewahi kupigana wapi? mnatolewa kamasi na a rag tag al-shabaab alafu msivyo na aibu mnaomba nchi za jirani ziwasaidie kupigana a proxy WAR! - Livefire si unasema jeshi lenu ni moto wa kuotea mbali mbona mlikosa ubavu wa kujaribu jeshi la Uganda mlipo kuwa mnagombea kisiwa katika ziwa Victoria, mgefanya kosa kuwachokoza Uganda mkidhani eti "wangetumia swam/mass deployment tactics" na sijuhi term hii umeipata wapi? sina shaka umeisoma kwenye vitabu vilivyo andikwa kutoka nchi za magharibi kuhusu jeshi la UCHINA kwenye miaka ya 1940s/50, ila unacho sahau ni kwamba jeshi hilo lilitwanga Merikani katika vita vya KOREAmpaka wakashika adabu, bila umoja wa mataifa kuingilia kati sijuhi kungetokea nini? - Jibu unalo.

Livefire, mshukuru sana busara za Rais Kibaki ni binadamu anaye tafakali mambo kwa kina na hana papala! Hana majigambo na majivuno yasio na tija kama baadhi yenu walivyo - kama angefanya kosa na kuwachokoza Waganda saa hizi mgekuwa wakimbizi Sudan ya Kusini au Tanzania - Nimeyasema haya kukumbusha kwamba usiwe na tabia ya KUDHALAU majeshi ya jirani zako kwa kuwapachika majina ya kishenzi.

Mwisho labda nikukumbushe kwamba ukitaka kujuwa umahili wa jeshi la TANZANIA nenda kawaulize ma General wa jeshi la makaburu kuhusu vita vya Angola: Menu ilikuwa kama ifuatavyo:-
1) Fighter Pilots- Cubans/ Tanzanians na Angolans - marubani wa makaburu walichanganyikiwa walikuwa hawajuhi ndege za MiG23 na MiG21 zilikuwa zinahibuka kutoka wapi, hakuna cha wingman au angalia 12,3,6,9 O'Clock au radar viliweza kufua dafu. Mark you muda umekwisha pita tangu vita hiyo ipiganwe na vilikuwa vita vya kisayansi.
(2) Infantry ambayo ili-involve vifaru, magari ya deraya na artillery wahusika wakuu walikuwa ni - Cubans, Tanzanians, Angolans na nchi marafiki; makaburu na Savimbi walivua viatu na kukimbia miguu pekupeku wakiogapa milio ya Stalin ORGANS wakasahau G-55 zao.
(3) Manning Air Defence System - Tanzanians/Cubans/Angola.
Ninacho eleza hapa ni too brief, nikiogezea vita vya Msumbiji majeshi ya RENAMO yaliyokuwa yanasaidiwa na makaburu na Kenya ilikuwa inaunga mkono RENAMO lakini jeshi letu liliwashinda huko Msumbiji, kuna sakata la Seycells ambalo makaburu walivamia kisiwa hicho wakitaka Macham arudi madarakani kutoka aliko kuwa amekimbilia uhamishoni Kenya, walipo sikia majeshi ya Tanzania yanakuja mbona makaburu walifunga virago wakaondoka bila kuhaga! Eh, Livefire bado unafikili jeshi la TANZANIA linatumia a stone age tactics - mimi nakupa ushauri wa bure siku moja nenda pale ARUSHA wakati wa Bunge la EA limekaa, basi omba kukutana na mtoto wa the late J.Nyerere walao akupe somo kuhusu Artillery Engineering nione kama utaendelea na kejeli zako za kusema eti JWTZ "wanatumia swam/mass deployment tactics" kwenye medani za VITA. What a HARAKIRI statement!!!!

Bro. Sidhani kama kuna kulikuwa na haja ya kutoa maelezo mengi. Pamoja nimefurahia kusoma comment yako kumuelewesha huyo mjinga wa kwanza kenya.
These guys hawajui vita nini. Wewe sikia vita kwenye redio na kaa mbali. Kitendo cha kenya kwenda Kenya is an excruciating bogus moves. They didn't have a good intel good for at least sometimes. Huwezi kumdharau adui hata kidogo, which they kenyans did, and its obvious even here wanaleta dharau zao.
Pili, Tanzania we don't like to fight. Tunapenda amani.
Imagine Tanzania wasn't strong enough in East Africa. Thse guys would be on our heads.

 

[Dhuks]

Bro. Sidhani kama kuna kulikuwa na haja ya kutoa maelezo mengi. Pamoja nimefurahia kusoma comment yako kumuelewesha huyo mjinga wa kwanza kenya.
These guys hawajui vita nini. Wewe sikia vita kwenye redio na kaa mbali. Kitendo cha kenya kwenda Kenya is an excruciating bogus moves. They didn't have a good intel good for at least sometimes. Huwezi kumdharau adui hata kidogo, which they kenyans did, and its obvious even here wanaleta dharau zao.
Pili, Tanzania we don't like to fight. Tunapenda amani.
Imagine Tanzania wasn't strong enough in East Africa. Thse guys would be on our heads.

I think this sums up what you have between your ears.

 

[Nairoberry]

Livefire habari kwanza, kama ukisoma vizuri nimesema hivyo vi-drone vinasaidia kuangalia majeshi au terrorist wako wapi [recon/scouting] kama unavyo sema. Sasa tatizo liko wapi? Kwani nani kasema humu kwamba drone hizo ni kama Predator zinazo beba mabomu ya hellfire! Au nani kasema vi-drone hivyo ni tishio kwa nchi za Africa Mashariki au kufikili Tanzania inaweza kutishwa na vijindege ambavyo vinaweza kuwa-brought down by a mere stone age anti aircraft guns; nani kasema KAF/KDF aina haki ya ku-modernise jeshi lenu!

Wewe unazungumzia mambo ya capabilities za heron/predator hivi unaweza kweli kulinganisha Raven drones ambazo unaweza kuzinyanyua kwa mkono na hazibebi air to ground missile wala bomb la aina yoyote ile! Nimeona umekuja juu hapa kuhusu comment yangu juu ya drones zilizo pelekwa Uganda! Labda nikuhulize swali, Je wewe ni a five star General wa jeshi la Uncle SAM mpaka ukajua kwa uhakika kwamba drones zilizo pelekwa Uganda haziusiki katika utafutaji majeshi ya KONY; kwa nini upendi watu wengine watoe maoni yao? Kuna mwana JF aliuliza kuhusu drones zilizo tolewa na Merikani kwa jeshi la Uganda mimi nikatoa maoni yangu, sasa imekuwa nongwa TENA!

Mleta post hii alikuwa na maana gani kuileta humu jamvini-kuna mahali amesema eti "KDF sasa itakuwa TISHIO kwa nchi jirani" - je huyu mtu anajua anacho zumgumza humu - who is afraid of a paper TIGER? eti "stay out of KDF inventories!!" nani kawaulizeni inventories la jeshi lenu? Kukosa kwenu kutafakali mambo mnaeleza kila kitu kilicho jikoni mwenu vingine vya kubuni tu! Hivi kweli kuna Mtanzania yeyote ambaye amewahi kuwa concern na jeshi lenu au kujali silaha zenu au kutangaza silaha za TANZANIA zinazo tumiwa na majeshi yetu au kujitapa kwamba tumenunua silaha fulani majirani zetu sasa watatukoma? Usifikili Jane's Defence books vina Intelligence na Analysis ya kweli kuhusu silaha na uwezo wa majeshi yote hapa duniani, wanayo andika humo ni script za maigizo ya HOLLYWOOD.

We unajuwa wapi doctrine za jeshi letu, unaleta mambo ya kubuni na propagada za nchi za magharibi; unaleta utani na a battle hardened jeshi (JWTZ) - nyie mumewahi kupigana wapi? mnatolewa kamasi na a rag tag al-shabaab alafu msivyo na aibu mnaomba nchi za jirani ziwasaidie kupigana a proxy WAR! - Livefire si unasema jeshi lenu ni moto wa kuotea mbali mbona mlikosa ubavu wa kujaribu jeshi la Uganda mlipo kuwa mnagombea kisiwa katika ziwa Victoria, mgefanya kosa kuwachokoza Uganda mkidhani eti "wangetumia swam/mass deployment tactics" na sijuhi term hii umeipata wapi? sina shaka umeisoma kwenye vitabu vilivyo andikwa kutoka nchi za magharibi kuhusu jeshi la UCHINA kwenye miaka ya 1940s/50, ila unacho sahau ni kwamba jeshi hilo lilitwanga Merikani katika vita vya KOREAmpaka wakashika adabu, bila umoja wa mataifa kuingilia kati sijuhi kungetokea nini? - Jibu unalo.

Livefire, mshukuru sana busara za Rais Kibaki ni binadamu anaye tafakali mambo kwa kina na hana papala! Hana majigambo na majivuno yasio na tija kama baadhi yenu walivyo - kama angefanya kosa na kuwachokoza Waganda saa hizi mgekuwa wakimbizi Sudan ya Kusini au Tanzania - Nimeyasema haya kukumbusha kwamba usiwe na tabia ya KUDHALAU majeshi ya jirani zako kwa kuwapachika majina ya kishenzi.

Mwisho labda nikukumbushe kwamba ukitaka kujuwa umahili wa jeshi la TANZANIA nenda kawaulize ma General wa jeshi la makaburu kuhusu vita vya Angola: Menu ilikuwa kama ifuatavyo:-
1) Fighter Pilots- Cubans/ Tanzanians na Angolans - marubani wa makaburu walichanganyikiwa walikuwa hawajuhi ndege za MiG23 na MiG21 zilikuwa zinahibuka kutoka wapi, hakuna cha wingman au angalia 12,3,6,9 O'Clock au radar viliweza kufua dafu. Mark you muda umekwisha pita tangu vita hiyo ipiganwe na vilikuwa vita vya kisayansi.
(2) Infantry ambayo ili-involve vifaru, magari ya deraya na artillery wahusika wakuu walikuwa ni - Cubans, Tanzanians, Angolans na nchi marafiki; makaburu na Savimbi walivua viatu na kukimbia miguu pekupeku wakiogapa milio ya Stalin ORGANS wakasahau G-55 zao.
(3) Manning Air Defence System - Tanzanians/Cubans/Angola.
Ninacho eleza hapa ni too brief, nikiogezea vita vya Msumbiji majeshi ya RENAMO yaliyokuwa yanasaidiwa na makaburu na Kenya ilikuwa inaunga mkono RENAMO lakini jeshi letu liliwashinda huko Msumbiji, kuna sakata la Seycells ambalo makaburu walivamia kisiwa hicho wakitaka Macham arudi madarakani kutoka aliko kuwa amekimbilia uhamishoni Kenya, walipo sikia majeshi ya Tanzania yanakuja mbona makaburu walifunga virago wakaondoka bila kuhaga! Eh, Livefire bado unafikili jeshi la TANZANIA linatumia a stone age tactics - mimi nakupa ushauri wa bure siku moja nenda pale ARUSHA wakati wa Bunge la EA limekaa, basi omba kukutana na mtoto wa the late J.Nyerere walao akupe somo kuhusu Artillery Engineering nione kama utaendelea na kejeli zako za kusema eti JWTZ "wanatumia swam/mass deployment tactics" kwenye medani za VITA. What a HARAKIRI statement!!!!

:sleepy::sleepy::sleepy::sleepy:

 

[kshaka]

hawa jamaa chuki na wivu utawamaliza...doh!

 

[Nairoberry]

guys calm down calm down. livefire keep it up :rockon::rockon::rockon:

 

[Kabaridi]

mchillo I can understand your position, but I do not think it would be hard for Kenya to deliberate on drone technology. All kenya needs is coders who can stand up to the occasion. Though in the region, Kenya is the one to benefit more from Obama's generous "profiglacy". It is more of lethal posturing from OBAMA to counter all the state sponsored terrorist threats by the Iranian Quds forces that know no borders. Iran have cloned their own pilotless remember from a K'Obama's pedestrian error.

.....................Irans "necessary evil" the revolutionary guards, are responsible for state sponsored threats in Pakistan working in cohorts with Taliban and Qaeda to advance their agenda. No loss at all for us anyone who trots around the globe with excess industrial grade RDX chemical is more bloody dangerous than any one who has a pilot-less plane.

 

[Kabaridi]

wale wapanga vita wenyewe wa kenya(military tacticians) wanafahamu yafuatayo kuhusu tz.....,
kuna natural barrier inayoifanya tanzania iwe na advantage militarly over kenya FOREVER.., slopes of mt.kilimanjaro hadi usambara tanga unaweka air cushion, safu yote hiyo ikiwekwa AAMs au SAMs(anti aircraft missiles au surface to air missiles respectively) hakuna fighter jet itaruka 4mts above sea level kutoka kenya keeping in mind we have the most modern radar system that is unmatched in east and central africa.., which can pick up and pinpoint a missile to a target in a fraction of a second(using super fast computers)...,

pemba is also stategic, from tht perspective i think u get a picture tht u are literally surrounded...., kwenye zile slopes, the air defence command can mount launch pads for ballistic missiles i.e.stellas which could bring nairobi a millenium back in a matter of hours, one after every two minutes from various pads along the slopes...., mombasa and kisumu are well within range of the lethal stellas

haya mambo military strategists wa kenya wanayajua vzr sana ila nyie wakenya mnaojifunza vita kwenye internet mnaishia kujisifia na drones 8 ambazo hazina uwezo wa kua armed

XXXXXXXXXXXfighters jets ambazo zina highly sensitive active radiating emitting sensors ambazo hudetect aduiXXXXXXXXXXX.