Ndio ukombozi wa mwafrika huo! Usishangae mkuu.
Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!
Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!
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Ndio ukombozi wa mwafrika huo! Usishangae mkuu.
Hii kama ni kisingizio basi nchi za Afrika zilipata kisingizio kizuri zaidi kwenda Libya kuokoa raia wao na kuwaadabisha NTC na kuzuia aibu nya AU na Afrika yote. Akili ya kutawaliwa iko kwenye damu zetu. Huu ndio mustakbali wa Afika.
Askari Kanzu
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(1) just stating facts
Which facts are you alluding to?
(2) am speaking from first hand experience
Your experience doesn't sound convincing, as far as I am concerned
(3) I am proud to be a Kenyan with the privilege of serving my country
I might as well reciprocate here, that I am proud to be a Tanzanian with the same privilege/s. So this doesn't make any sense.
(4) Your tunnel vision thoughts are one of the attributes that are making the EAC to fail
Speak for yourself!
(5) we are not into competition here!!!
Precisely, it seems to me that you see competition in everything Tanzanian. I have stated it unequivocally (twice) that I support the Kenyan endeavour. Didn't you read that?
(6) so my advice to you is find good books
So where are those good books written on the Kenyan army?
(7)before running your mouth
I will not bother with this!
Come back again, Sir!
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Sasa vipi tena hizo nchi hazikutumia hicho kisingizio?
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Huyu jamaa sasa ni kigeugeu. Hajui anataka nini haswa.
INTERVIEW-Kenya has right to pursue al Shabaab-Somali PM
27 Oct 2011 08:28
Source: reuters // Reuters
* Kenyan troops camped near rebel strongholds
* Somali president had cast doubt on support for mission
* PM now liaising with Nairobi on operations
By Mohamed Ahmed
MOGADISHU, Oct 27 (Reuters) - Kenya has every right to pursue al Shabaab rebels in Somalia, but Somali government troops must be in charge of operations against the Islamist rebels, Somalia's prime minister said.
Kenya deployed troops inside the anarchic Horn of Africa nation 12-days ago in an offensive against al Shabaab fighters it blames for a series of kidnappings on its soil and frequent cross-border incursions.
Somalia's president cast doubt on his government's support for the incursion on Monday. On Wednesday, Mogadishu reiterated there was no deal with Kenya to send in its troops, but said the prime minister would now liaise with Nairobi.
"We support Kenya's operation inside Somalia because they support, train and provide other military support to our troops to defeat al Shabaab and we are very grateful to Kenya," Prime Minister Abdiweli Mohamed Ali said in an interview.
"But we have to understand one thing: Somalia has the lead, our military has the lead in all operations taking place inside Somalia," he said late on Wednesday.
The Somali government has so far stopped short of asking Kenyan troops to leave and the prime minister's comments show the authorities appear to accept the incursion, which has the backing of Western allies supporting the Mogadishu government.
"My government supports any self defence action Kenya takes against al Shabaab. Al Shabaab has inflicted a negative economic impact on Kenya," the prime minister said.
"Kenya has suffered at the hands of al Shabaab who are Somali terrorists crossing from the Somali border to the Kenyan border. So, therefore, Kenya has the right to pursue them inside Somali and defeat them," he said.
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Naskia hao Alshabab wame attack mandera na kuua watu sita mda si mrefu.. they have switched their targets to ordinary wananchi.. One thing I know for a fact is that we will win this war, kill all Alshabaab operatives inside and out of Kenya, it will be a walk in the park for our army. akina Askari Kanzu na Ami waendelee kuongea tu, you sirs, will be very disappointed.
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And from whence do you equate the two of us, Sir?
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Kenya chinja sagasaga katakata toboatoboa hao shaabab majinga sana.
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Official: Al-Shabaab leaders contact Kenyan government to negotiate
By David McKenzie, CNN
Nairobi, Kenya (CNN) -- A Kenyan government official said Thursday that Al-Shabaab leaders are seeking negotiations as the nation pursues the Islamist militants deeper into Somalia.
"They want to talk," said the official, who did not want to be named because he is not authorized to talk to the media.
Kenyan troops struck several Al-Shabaab training sites in Somalia early Thursday, a military spokesman said. The militant group, which includes many rival factions with different leaders, operates from the nation.
The group's leaders are reaching out nearly two weeks after the troops stormed Somalia to hunt for Al-Shabaab, which Kenya blames for recent kidnappings of foreigners in the nation. Kidnappers have seized two aid workers and two European tourists in the past month.
"We have looked at what is going on ... and decided that unless we move in now, Al-Shabaab is not diminishing, it is becoming bigger and bigger," Kenyan government spokesman Alfred Mutua said.
The war on terror cannot be won without dismantling the group's power, he said.
Efforts to flush out the terror group will take a "couple of months, if that," Mutua said, adding that "weeks" would be a more ideal time frame.
Analysts and diplomats have raised concerns over the incursion, saying it gives the terror group a reason to strike Kenya.
"If there is anything we have learned in the last couple of decades is that foreign intervention, especially military intervention, doesn't work in Somalia," said Rashid Abdi, an analyst for International Crisis Group "I definitely understand Kenya's anxiety about the terror threat emanating from Somalia ... but I think there is more that Kenya could have done inside the country."
While noting Kenya's "right to defend itself," the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi said it was not part of the decision to send troops to Somalia.
"The United States did not encourage the Kenyan government to act nor did Kenya seek our views," said Katya Thomas, the embassy's press officer. "We note that Kenya has a right to defend itself against threats to its security and its citizens."
Kenya has said its forces aim to take the Somali port city of Kismayo, described by the United Nations as a key stronghold and source of cash for Al-Shabaab. The United Nations estimates the group collects up to $50 million a year from businesses in Kismayo, about half of its annual income.
Kenyan officials declared self-defense justifies crossing the border with Somalia, saying a recent spate of kidnappings threatened its security and constituted an attack.
Somali President Sharif Ahmed thanked Kenya on Wednesday for helping battle the extremist group two days after he accused the nation of overstepping its boundaries.
By David McKenzie, CNN
Nairobi, Kenya (CNN) -- A Kenyan government official said Thursday that Al-Shabaab leaders are seeking negotiations as the nation pursues the Islamist militants deeper into Somalia.
"They want to talk," said the official, who did not want to be named because he is not authorized to talk to the media.
Kenyan troops struck several Al-Shabaab training sites in Somalia early Thursday, a military spokesman said. The militant group, which includes many rival factions with different leaders, operates from the nation.
The group's leaders are reaching out nearly two weeks after the troops stormed Somalia to hunt for Al-Shabaab, which Kenya blames for recent kidnappings of foreigners in the nation. Kidnappers have seized two aid workers and two European tourists in the past month.
"We have looked at what is going on ... and decided that unless we move in now, Al-Shabaab is not diminishing, it is becoming bigger and bigger," Kenyan government spokesman Alfred Mutua said.
The war on terror cannot be won without dismantling the group's power, he said.
Efforts to flush out the terror group will take a "couple of months, if that," Mutua said, adding that "weeks" would be a more ideal time frame.
Analysts and diplomats have raised concerns over the incursion, saying it gives the terror group a reason to strike Kenya.
"If there is anything we have learned in the last couple of decades is that foreign intervention, especially military intervention, doesn't work in Somalia," said Rashid Abdi, an analyst for International Crisis Group "I definitely understand Kenya's anxiety about the terror threat emanating from Somalia ... but I think there is more that Kenya could have done inside the country."
While noting Kenya's "right to defend itself," the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi said it was not part of the decision to send troops to Somalia.
"The United States did not encourage the Kenyan government to act nor did Kenya seek our views," said Katya Thomas, the embassy's press officer. "We note that Kenya has a right to defend itself against threats to its security and its citizens."
Kenya has said its forces aim to take the Somali port city of Kismayo, described by the United Nations as a key stronghold and source of cash for Al-Shabaab. The United Nations estimates the group collects up to $50 million a year from businesses in Kismayo, about half of its annual income.
Kenyan officials declared self-defense justifies crossing the border with Somalia, saying a recent spate of kidnappings threatened its security and constituted an attack.
Somali President Sharif Ahmed thanked Kenya on Wednesday for helping battle the extremist group two days after he accused the nation of overstepping its boundaries.
Na StandardgroupKenya Media 26/10/2011 wananchi Kenya wanashangaa kwa nini serikali yao ya Kenya haitaki 'kuja kuchukua hii kitu yao'' na wananchi hao wameipa siku tatu kama hawaichukui hii kitu wataizika chini, tazama jinsi wananchi waliookota bomu wailalamika kweli serikali ipo makini sana wakati huu wa 'Operesheni Ulinzi' dhini ya ugaidi
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hawa jamaa wanapata wapi pesa ya ku run hiki kikundi chao? Wana own any thing productive? And who is behind them.....
Nikiangalia mbele naona kuwa hawa jamaa wataleta maafa makubwa sana kwenye huu ukanda wetu.
Nikiangalia mbele naona kuwa hawa jamaa wataleta maafa makubwa sana kwenye huu ukanda wetu.
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Mekatilili hawa Al-Shabaab ni kama vinyonga. Wakenya wanatakiwa kuwa waangalifu sana!
Somalia's al Shabaab vows war against Kenya
By Ismail Taxta and Abdi Sheikh
Sheikh Mukhtar Robow Ali Abu Mansur, a top Al-Shabaab leaderMOGADISHU | Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:14am EDT
(Reuters) - Somalia's al Shabaab rebels vowed on Thursday to fight Kenya after its troops entered the Horn of Africa nation and called on sympathizers to carry out major attacks in east Africa's biggest economy.
The call to arms came 12 days after Kenya sent soldiers into Somalia to battle the al Qaeda-linked rebels Nairobi blames for a string of kidnappings on Kenyan soil and frequent border incursions threatening state security.
Unknown militants attacked a vehicle in northeastern Kenya near Somalia on Thursday killing at least four government employees, local officials told Reuters, the third strike in the east African country this week.
Two separate grenade blasts in the capital Nairobi on Monday killed one person and wounded nearly 30. A Kenyan man has pleaded guilty to one of the attacks and being a member of al Shabaab. There were also unconfirmed Kenyan media reports that gunmen had ambushed Kenyan soldiers near a town 60 km (40 miles) inside Somalia. Government spokesman Alfred Mutua declined to comment on the reports.
"The time to ask Kenya to stop war has passed. The only option is to fight them. Kenya, you have started the war and so you have to face the consequences," Sheikh Muktar Robow Abu Mansoor, a top al Shabaab official, told a demonstration.
"The Kenyan Mujahideen who were trained by Osama in Afghanistan, stop throwing grenades at buses. We need a huge blow against Kenya. Hand grenades hurled can harm them but we want huge blasts," he told hundreds of people gathered in Elasha, near the capital Mogadishu.
Kenya has long watched its anarchic neighbor warily and its troops have made forays across the porous border with Somalia in the past, but this month's assault marks the first concerted push to drive the rebels away from the frontier. The recent kidnappings of Western tourists and aid workers on Kenyan soil risk denting the country's lucrative tourist industry and hampering humanitarian support for more than 400,000 Somalis at a refugee camp in northern Kenya.
Al Shabaab has denied being behind the kidnappings, saying they were being used as a pretext by Kenya to send troops into the country.
"Now Kenya's planes are bombing us, and their tanks are inside Somalia. Let's fight collectively and defeat them as we defeated the Christian countries who invaded us before," said al Shabaab's Mansoor.
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Attack near Kenya-Somalia border 'kills four'
Armed men have attacked a lorry near Kenya's border with Somalia, killing at least four people, reports say.
The lorry was carrying school examination papers when it was attacked in Mandera district, reports say.
Kenya blames Somalia's militant Islamist group al-Shabab for a spate of abductions on its territory.
Al-Shabab denies the allegation and has vowed to take revenge against Kenya for sending troops into Somalia.
Kenyan Red Cross spokeswoman Nelly Muluka-Oluoch told the AP news agency that Red Cross staff who went to the site of the attack reported four deaths.
The attackers fired machine guns and rocket propelled grenades at the vehicle, which was carrying school examination papers, AP says.
Armed men have attacked a lorry near Kenya's border with Somalia, killing at least four people, reports say.
The lorry was carrying school examination papers when it was attacked in Mandera district, reports say.
Kenya blames Somalia's militant Islamist group al-Shabab for a spate of abductions on its territory.
Al-Shabab denies the allegation and has vowed to take revenge against Kenya for sending troops into Somalia.
Kenyan Red Cross spokeswoman Nelly Muluka-Oluoch told the AP news agency that Red Cross staff who went to the site of the attack reported four deaths.
The attackers fired machine guns and rocket propelled grenades at the vehicle, which was carrying school examination papers, AP says.
hi ndio nafasi ya kuwa maliza hao al shabab, naona wana bata uthungu kuona chanzo chao cha pesa kina potea , watasambaratika vibaya saana na kuwa vulnarable, sasa hapo ni kanyaga twende chukua hiyo kismayo baada ya hapo ni chumba kwa chumba , walikuwa wapi kuwaeleza hao walioteka kurudisha mateka kabla ya vita?
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Mashoga wa Nairobi wasiwasi umepanda baada ya mlipuko wa mabomu
*klabu ya Mwaura ilikuwa ni kiota cha mashoga
*wengi wao hufuata bia bei rahisi pamoja na mutua
REPORT: Nairobi's Gay Community on Edge After Terrorist Bombing
PHOTOS: AP, Reuters
Kenya's burgeoning gay community is on edge. The bar targeted Monday morning was frequented by gay/bisexual men and male sex workers, reports Behind the Mask.
Denis Nzioka, editor of Kenyas new LGBTI and sex workers magazine, Identity, explained that though not exactly a well known gay hangout like other bars in and around Nairobi, Mwauras was popular with male sex workers and men who have sex with men who liked the bar for its "cheap keg beer and mutura (an African blood sausage)."
Nzioka said, "Like any keg joint there were older men there looking for a shag from the younger ones. Most of the old patrons were mostly married, living in rural areas or were unemployed. There was also a noticeable presence of mid-level income earners especially from nearby offices, as well as students."
He added, "So far, no one I know from [the MSM or male sex worker community] has been hurt; however, I would confidently say that of the [people injured], there must have been some MSMs in there. There were some female sex workers who were hurt too.:
Nzioka however pointed out that due to differences with the management in 2010, many regulars from the MSM and male sex worker communities had stopped frequenting the bar for a time until recently when the management realised banning the queer element from the bar had had a negative impact on the profits and so had begun welcoming the community back.
Kenya's government is considered moderate on gay rights. They were the first African nation to include gay and bisexual men in their national HIV strategy. Two pro-LGBT justices were confirmed to the Supreme Court in June.
But there has been a backlash against calls to decriminalize homosexuality in the East African nation, such as one cabinet minister's proposal to scrap the nation's sodomy laws. Last November, Prime Minister Raila Odinga called for the mass arrests of gays at a political rally but later retracted his statements.
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*klabu ya Mwaura ilikuwa ni kiota cha mashoga
*wengi wao hufuata bia bei rahisi pamoja na mutua
REPORT: Nairobi's Gay Community on Edge After Terrorist Bombing
PHOTOS: AP, Reuters
Kenya's burgeoning gay community is on edge. The bar targeted Monday morning was frequented by gay/bisexual men and male sex workers, reports Behind the Mask.
Denis Nzioka, editor of Kenyas new LGBTI and sex workers magazine, Identity, explained that though not exactly a well known gay hangout like other bars in and around Nairobi, Mwauras was popular with male sex workers and men who have sex with men who liked the bar for its "cheap keg beer and mutura (an African blood sausage)."
Nzioka said, "Like any keg joint there were older men there looking for a shag from the younger ones. Most of the old patrons were mostly married, living in rural areas or were unemployed. There was also a noticeable presence of mid-level income earners especially from nearby offices, as well as students."
He added, "So far, no one I know from [the MSM or male sex worker community] has been hurt; however, I would confidently say that of the [people injured], there must have been some MSMs in there. There were some female sex workers who were hurt too.:
Nzioka however pointed out that due to differences with the management in 2010, many regulars from the MSM and male sex worker communities had stopped frequenting the bar for a time until recently when the management realised banning the queer element from the bar had had a negative impact on the profits and so had begun welcoming the community back.
Kenya's government is considered moderate on gay rights. They were the first African nation to include gay and bisexual men in their national HIV strategy. Two pro-LGBT justices were confirmed to the Supreme Court in June.
But there has been a backlash against calls to decriminalize homosexuality in the East African nation, such as one cabinet minister's proposal to scrap the nation's sodomy laws. Last November, Prime Minister Raila Odinga called for the mass arrests of gays at a political rally but later retracted his statements.
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