Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!

[livefire]

According to what you have written above it seems you dont know that ugali comes from maize also that chips is viazi.
Pole sana !.
If you can't differentiate ugali and mahindi how do you want muslims around the world to differrentiate between the soldiers and cars made in Israel and those made from Russia in your army.

no offence sir but the level of ignorance you exhude is beyond reproach. We operate a variety of apc n transport vehicles within our armored infantry and from various countries. A little research by you iz all u need. Mark u my mate has clearly said hardware and not vehicles. Anyway take no further notice, your interest is by large n far to belittle KDF.

 

[Askari Kanzu]

...WHILE YOU ARE BUSSY USING YOUR KEYBOARD INSULTING US...

What do you mean by that?

 

[Gavana]

no offence sir but the level of ignorance you exhude is beyond reproach. We operate a variety of apc n transport vehicles within our armored infantry and from various countries. A little research by you iz all u need. Mark u my mate has clearly said hardware and not vehicles. Anyway take no further notice, your interest is by large n far to belittle kdf.

tanzanians be ready to take refugees from kenya , hunger is approaching

 

[Askari Kanzu]

no offence sir but the level of ignorance you exhude is beyond reproach (1). We operate a variety of apc n transport vehicles within our armored infantry and from various countries. A little research by you iz all u need. Mark u my mate has clearly said hardware and not vehicles (2). Anyway take no further notice, your interest is by large n far to belittle KDF.

Well, Mr. livefire while exposing others' ignorance you must also be careful yourself. Here the term "beyond reproach" has been used out of context. You need to go back to your English language class to know what I mean. Secondly, it is high time you learn that military hardware encompasses vehicles too! Why don't you just use your national language and play safe?

One thing I have noticed with Kenyans is their false belief that mastering the English language is tantamount to being civilized. That is, alas, a vestige of colonialism that has no place in the world we are living in. Jisifie lugha yako na watu watakuthamini. Achana na kasumba za kikoloni. Zimepitwa na wakati!

You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. Matthew 7:5

*beyond reproach
So good as to preclude any possibility of criticism.

 

[livefire]

Well, Mr. livefire while exposing others' ignorance you must also be careful yourself. Here the term "beyond reproach" has been used out of context. You need to go back to your English language class to know what I mean. Secondly, it is high time you learn that military hardware encompasses vehicles too! Why don't you just use your national language and play safe?

One thing I have noticed with Kenyans is their false belief that mastering the English language is tantamount to being civilized. That is, alas, a vestige of colonialism that has no place in the world we are living in. Jisifie lugha yako na watu watakuthamini. Achana na kasumba za kikoloni. Zimepitwa na wakati!

You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. Matthew 7:5

*beyond reproach
So good as to preclude any possibility of criticism.

i find your reply to be satirical if not a big joke. your intellect levels are wanting. If you cant comprehend a mere figure of speech then ua dumber than i thot. I repeat, inferiority complex iz a disorder, grow out of it. About hardware....read the previous posts, you'l know wat i was referring to, not vehicles but ordnances n military gear.

 

[Webabu]

Kenya is prepared to send troops to bolster the African Union (AU) force in Somalia to tackle militant Islamists, Foreign Minister Moses Wetangula says.
Kenya launched military action in Somalia last month after blaming the al-Shabab group for a spate of abductions on its territory.
Al-Shabab, which denies involvement in the abductions, has vowed to retaliate.
The AU has about 9,000 troops in Somalia, but they are confined to the capital, Mogadishu.
Al-Shabab, which is linked to al-Qaeda, controls most other parts of southern and central Somalia.
Mr Wetangula told the BBC Kenya was prepared to beef up the AU force.
"That is on offer. In case a request is made, Kenya will avail a few of its battalions [made up of about 1,000 soldiers each] to join Uganda, Burundi and Djibouti to help keep the peace in Somalia," he told Network Africa. BBC
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Kenya vipi tena!.

 

[Ulinziguy]

What do you mean by that?

Keep on my guy...some of us are here to inform you whenever you get misinformed!The problem is that you dont accept it brother!

 

[Askari Kanzu]

i find your reply to be satirical if not a big joke. your intellect levels are wanting. If you cant comprehend a mere figure of speech then ua dumber than i thot. I repeat, inferiority complex iz a disorder, grow out of it. About hardware....read the previous posts, you'l know wat i was referring to, not vehicles but ordnances n military gear.

Why are you getting angry and resort to uncouth language bro? I thought you were more sophisticated than this:-(

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Keep on my guy...some of us are here to inform you whenever you get misinformed!The problem is that you dont accept it brother!

Ok. You haven't answered my question though!

 

[Ulinziguy]

Read this out!http:Kenya: Elite Kenyan Special Forces revealed | Shout-Africa

 

[Ulinziguy]

Just try that link above!

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Just try that link above!

Thanks, I was already aware of that article by Mr. Wanjohi Kabukuru (who also writes for New African)

 

[Ulinziguy]

Thanks, I was already aware of that article by Mr. Wanjohi Kabukuru (who also writes for New African)

Ooh!never mind i was just posting for the other forum members who have not seen it.Anyway next time you see other links please post for some of us Askari Kanzu.Am seeing how researchable you are and just wanted to say,I GIVE YOU A 21 GUN SALUTE BROTHER!

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Ethiopia, Kenya to discuss sending troops to Somalia

November 17 2011 at 07:58pm
Associated Press

Addis Ababa - Ethiopia and Kenya are expected to discuss sending troops into Somalia on Thursday at an African Union Peace and Security Council meeting on the war-torn Horn of Africa state, a spokeswoman said.

Kenya announced Wednesday it wanted to commit troops to the AU Mission for Somalia (AMISOM), one month after it sent its army across the border to fight Islamist Shebab insurgents.

"We will see, they're invited to discuss," Nissa Roguiai said about whether Kenya's troop offer would be covered in the meeting.

Roguiai said members would also address a possible commitment of troops by Ethiopia to Somalia.

"It's only discussions, no consultations will be made, we're waiting for a commitment," she told AFP before the meeting.

If Ethiopia does commit troops, it is not clear whether they would be deployed under the auspices of AMISOM or the regional body, the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD).

Ethiopia previously invaded Somalia in 2006 with US blessing, but pulled out in 2009 after sparking a bloody uprising and guerrilla attacks. Kenya's ambassador to Ethiopia Monica Juma, would not comment on her country's troop offer as she arrived at the meeting.

"I have not been in there yet," she said as she entered the chamber.

Full story (Pretoria News)

 

[Zawadi Ngoda]

"Msaada" wa Israel kwa Kenya unachambuliwa kama njugu (karanga)!

Unpacking the Israel-Kenya deal to help wage war in Somalia
by Alex Kane on November 16, 2011 4

View attachment 41418Kenya's Prime Minister Raila Odinga met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on November 14 in Jerusalem (Photo: Israeli Government Press Office)

There's an important set of factors driving this deal, and it's worth unpacking some of them to explain why Israel is assisting Kenya.

First, Israel's massive war industry will benefit from Kenyan requests to "help Kenya's police force detect and destroy al-Shabab's networks...[and] provide vehicles for border patrols and equipment for sea surveillance to curb piracy off the East African coast." Israel has sold Kenya military equipment in the past, as ICAHD researcher and independent journalist Jimmy Johnson documents on his new website, but this deal will significantly expand that cooperation. Israeli arms companies will be profiting off a month-long war that has reportedly killed innocent civilians in Somalia.

Second, the deal is another opportunity for Israel to claim that its "enemies" are fundamentalist Islamists akin to al-Qaeda, as Benjamin Netanyahu has claimed. Netanyahu's claim is wrong (Hamas has actually cracked down on Islamist fundamentalists in Gaza) but it's a common trope pushed by the Israeli establishment and U.S. supporters of Israel in order to tie resistance to Israeli occupation to jihadist terrorism.

Third, the help is in line with broader Israeli attempts to "boost military sales in strife-torn Africa."

There is a history of Israel arming unsavory dictatorships and regimes around the world, from apartheid South Africa to countries in Latin America. As Phyllis Bennis writes in a chapter to Wrestling with Zion: Progressive Jewish-American responses to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Israel acted as a "surrogate" for the U.S. during the Cold War in Latin America, Asia and Africa, assisting brutal dictatorships in those regions. Kenya is no dictatorship, but the alleged killing of civilians in Somalia and ongoing investigations into post-election ethnic violence that Kenyan leaders allegedly fomented make clear that Israel has not changed its attitude towards countries that commit human rights abuses--a logical attitude considering Israel's own war crimes record.

Meanwhile, al Shabaab has slammed the Israel-Kenya deal, and the Associated Press is warning of the potential blow back to Israel Somali militants could inflict. As more innocent Somalis die as a result of Israeli-assisted Kenyan military action, the risk for more bloodshed on both sides increases.

Full article (Mondoweiss)

Wakenya hawajashtuka!

Kumbe hawa KENYA wameshawishiwa na ISRAEL Kuingia vitani. Masikini yaani unazidiwa akili kirahisi namna hii, hasa katika kipindi hiki kigumu cha Uchumi.

Sasa WAKENYA watamkumbuka KENYATA. KENYA BILA KENYATA HAIENDI, Kifo cha KENYATA ndio ilikuwa Kifo cha KENYA. Kwa maana hiyo Uchumi wa kenya utaendelea kuporomoka tu, hii inamaanisha SLAMS ZITAONGEZEKA baada ya kupungua.

Smartest Iraelians to poor Kenyans! Maji ukiyavulia nguo huna budi kuyaoga.

 

[Ulinziguy]

For your information their is a worldwide recession shaking even the biggest markets like the Eurozone and the American stockmarkets.Here in EAC uganda kenya and tanzania both are feeling its costs by the rise of fuel prices and food prices.The lending rates of banks have also raising significantly.And for your info during Moi's era at the presidency the economy was nearly experiencing a zero-growth but since 2002 we have been having a steady growth upto 2007 we had a growth of 7.5%.This year our growth is projected to be 5.2%

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Concern in Kenya over cost of Somalia operation
By TOM ODULA, Associated Press

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — As hundreds of Kenyan soldiers hunt al-Qaida-linked militants in Somalia, university students are growing angry that their government can afford a military operation but not raises for thousands of university lecturers.

Hundreds of University of Nairobi students began protesting after some 7,000 lecturers went on a week-long strike. Police fired into the air to disperse the students, some of whom had prepared for exams earlier this week only to be told they were being postponed.

Lecturers make around $800 a month in Kenya, and their salaries have not be raised in three years.

Kenya's Higher Education Minister Margaret Kamar said she sympathizes with the lecturers, who decided Thursday to postpone their strike for two weeks to allow for negotiations. But the financial resources simply aren't there, she says.

"We have sat down and discussed with the prime minister and finance minister, we cannot add anything because of our boys in Somalia," Kamar said.

Hundreds of Kenyan troops moved into Somalia last month to hunt down the al-Shabab militants, who have threatened to strike inside Kenya in retaliation. Military budgets in Kenya are not publicly released, and the government has not said how much the operation will last or how long it will take.

It couldn't come at a worse time for Kenyans: In October, inflation was nearly 19 percent because of skyrocketing food and energy costs, fueled by a depreciation in the Kenyan shilling against the dollar. Kenya's Central Bank raised interest rates recently to stem the shilling's decline, raising the costs of personal loans.

And the country's critical tourism industry is being threatened by a rash of kidnappings inside Kenya blamed on the Somali militants.

Stephen Mutoro, an official of the Consumer Federation of Kenya, says the country should brace itself for hard economic times.

"Locally we are going to borrow from the private sector which is going to make it very difficult for the economy because when government is borrowing from the banks, the banks find it very difficult to deal with individuals," Mutoro said.

Mutoro said there was little preparation for the military mission in Somalia and that's why the government is now sending officials to Israel, the Middle East and Europe to ask for financial support.

Full article

 

[bagamoyo]

Nov 17, 2011
London, UK
The Guardian Newspaper

The leaders of Kenya, Uganda and Somalia have vowed to defeat Islamist al-Shabaab rebels in Somalia, saying the region had a "historic opportunity" to restore security in a country that has come to be defined by its lawlessness.

Kenyan troops have made rapid territorial gains against the al-Qaida linked insurgents since they invaded southern Somalia on 16 October. But heavy rains have stalled efforts to defeat an enemy that can easily melt away into the local population and disrupt Kenyan supply lines.

The Kenyan president, Mwai Kibaki, met his Ugandan counterpart, Yoweri Museveni, and Somalia's leader, Sheikh Sharif Ahmed, on Wednesday.


Kenya's incursion, however, is both ambitious and ambiguous.

It is ambitious because bigger, battle-hardened armies have tried to pacify its anarchic Horn of Africa neighbour before, and failed – the United States in the early 1990s and Ethiopia in 2006.


Kenyan military and political leaders have set their sights on the southern port city of Kismayo, described by International Crisis Group analyst Rashid Abdi as "the jewel in the crown of al-Shabaab's territorial control".

David Shinn, a former US ambassador to Ethiopia, says Kenya must pull out of Somalia soon, whether or not it takes Kismayo.
"The longer it remains, the greater al-Shabaab's argument will resonate with Somalis that a foreign force has invaded," he said.


Mohamed, a Kenyan-Somali who was born in northern Kenya but lived for years in Kismayo, concurs, saying the city's people do not support the rebels and will welcome Kenyan troops. What happens after that will, however, be critical to the fate of the Kenyan operation.

"If the Kenyans want control, this is a problem. If they try that, al-Shabaab will get support from society," said Mohamed, an accountancy graduate.


Analysts say the military campaign must have been at least a year in the planning. Discussions about setting up a buffer zone in southern Somalia to protect Kenyan interests and facilitate the return of Somali refugees, date back even further.

There may also be political motives. Kenya is due to hold presidential elections next year, the first since widespread post-election violence in late 2007.


The incursion has won broad political support, but as the weeks roll by with no clear military victory, critics are beginning to raise their voices.
Writing in Nairobi newspaper the Star, lawyer Irungu Kangata argued the war was illegal and costly, and urged Kenyan troops to pull out immediately.

"The worst case scenario is unfathomable. A humiliated Kenya defeated by al-Shabaab, wasting millions of shillings in a long drawn-out war," Kangata wrote.

Kenyan forces have not engaged in any major battles, but there is a daily trickle of reported skirmishes. Abdi says Kenyan forces, although well-trained and equipped, might not be prepared for urban warfare in Kismayo and should work with others, such as the African Union peacekeeping force.

READ MORE FROM SOURCE: Somalia, Kenya and Uganda pledge to defeat al-Shabaab rebels | World news | The Guardian

 

[Bantugbro]

Concern in Kenya over cost of Somalia operation
By TOM ODULA, Associated Press

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) - As hundreds of Kenyan soldiers hunt al-Qaida-linked militants in Somalia, university students are growing angry that their government can afford a military operation but not raises for thousands of university lecturers.

Hundreds of University of Nairobi students began protesting after some 7,000 lecturers went on a week-long strike. Police fired into the air to disperse the students, some of whom had prepared for exams earlier this week only to be told they were being postponed.

Lecturers make around $800 a month in Kenya, and their salaries have not be raised in three years.

Kenya's Higher Education Minister Margaret Kamar said she sympathizes with the lecturers, who decided Thursday to postpone their strike for two weeks to allow for negotiations. But the financial resources simply aren't there, she says.

"We have sat down and discussed with the prime minister and finance minister, we cannot add anything because of our boys in Somalia," Kamar said.


It couldn't come at a worse time for Kenyans: In October, inflation was nearly 19 percent because of skyrocketing food and energy costs, fueled by a depreciation in the Kenyan shilling against the dollar. Kenya's Central Bank raised interest rates recently to stem the shilling's decline, raising the costs of personal loans.

And the country's critical tourism industry is being threatened by a rash of kidnappings inside Kenya blamed on the Somali militants.

Stephen Mutoro, an official of the Consumer Federation of Kenya, says the country should brace itself for hard economic times.


Mutoro said there was little preparation for the military mission in Somalia and that's why the government is now sending officials to Israel, the Middle East and Europe to ask for financial support.

Full article

The chickens have come home to roost!, at least wasomi sasa wameona kuwa hii vita imekuwa over-exagerated na ni kwa ajili ya kunafaisha matumbo ya watu (politician) wachache. Kwanza kumlipa University lecturer $ 800 kwa mwezi ni dhambi kubwa sana, hivi rent yenyewe tu atalipaje?

 

[Ulinziguy]

Be assured that in kenya the lowest paid lecture gets USD800.If you are criticizing it the what does the lowest lecture get paid in your homeland!stop rebuking the speck in my eye yet you have a log in yours.The highest paid lecturers get several thousands USD.