Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!

Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!

Be assured that in kenya the lowest paid lecture gets USD800.If you are criticizing it the what does the lowest lecture get paid in your homeland!stop rebuking the speck in my eye yet you have a log in yours.The highest paid lecturers get several thousands USD.

Acha fitna kijana, hata kama hiyo $ 800 ni kima cha chini still they have all the rights to protest because it is way too small (only covers rent) even for a junior Uni lecturer. The fact that corrupt politicians are benefiting from a wayward war, who are you to question their decision to protest?.

Kumbuka wahenga walinena 'kufa kufaana'
 
I have just had this out over the news (citizen) at 9.00pm that today KDF engaged alshabab members in a brief gunfight and captured 10 alshabab fighters who had tanzanian passports with them.Am still looking for the a source to back it up.
 
I have just had this out over the news (citizen) at 9.00pm that today KDF engaged alshabab members in a brief gunfight and captured 10 alshabab fighters who had tanzanian passports with them.Am still looking for the a source to back it up.

What difference does it make? if non-Somali Kenyan citizen can be recruited to fight against their own country (Kenya) what about a non Kenyan citizen (i.e., Tanzanian, Somali, Ugandan)?
 
The decision by Kenya to take on Al Shabab has left more than just Al Shabab sympathizers very upset; even more upsetting is the apparent lack of bloodbath and heavy casualties on the Kenyan side. That is no longer a fact that can be denied with any credibility. People are pissed off.
 
Acha fitna kijana, hata kama hiyo $ 800 ni kima cha chini still they have all the rights to protest because it is way too small (only covers rent) even for a junior Uni lecturer. The fact that corrupt politicians are benefiting from a wayward war, who are you to question their decision to protest?.

Kumbuka wahenga walinena 'kufa kufaana'

Have you heard me saying that the strike is illegal?For your info it has been called off.About the issue of USD 800 caters for rent you are joking!That is about ksh 80000.if you can pay a rent of 20000 and the remaining can sustain them for a month.But the good news is that their salaries might be skyrocketed to a minimum of ksh200000
 
I have just had this out over the news (citizen) at 9.00pm that today KDF engaged alshabab members in a brief gunfight and captured 10 alshabab fighters who had tanzanian passports with them.Am still looking for the a source to back it up.

Mungu (ALLAH) ataleta hukumu yake hatua kwa hatua kwa fitna zenu za kusingizia watu mambo.Kwa uwezo wake mutasambaratika bila kupigwa na Al shabaab.--aamin
 
Mungu (ALLAH) ataleta hukumu yake hatua kwa hatua kwa fitna zenu za kusingizia watu mambo.Kwa uwezo wake mutasambaratika bila kupigwa na Al shabaab.--aamin

God Almighty is a just God thus knows how to judge us all.Dont try to make Him reason your way because His ways are not ours and are beyond our understanding!Lord Jesus we love you!AMEN!
 
Ethiopian troops cross into Somalia: witnesses
Saturday, 19 November 2011
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Somali refugees camp in an open ground near the Kenya-Somalia border town of Liboi. (Reuters)

By AFP. Nairobi

Several hundred Ethiopian troops crossed on Saturday into southern and central Somalia, local elders said, but Addis Ababa dismissed the reports as “absolutely not true.”

“There are several hundred Ethiopian troops here in lorries and some armored vehicles too,” said elder Abdi Ibrahim Warsame, speaking by telephone from Gurel town, in Somalia’s central Galgudud region.

Ethiopian forces were also reported in the Hiran region at the town of Beletweyne, some 30 kilometers (18 miles) into Somalia, an area contested by Islamist Shebab rebels and pro-government militia.

“They are here, the Ethiopian soldiers in trucks have reached Beletweyne with many forces,” said elder Ahmed Liban. “The Shebab in the area are pulling back, away from them.” But Ethiopia dismissed the reports outright.

“It is absolutely not true, there are absolutely no troops in Somalia,” said Ethiopian foreign ministry spokesman Dina Mufti. “People are simply speculating.”

Small numbers of Ethiopian forces have been reported operating in Somali border regions in the recent past, but witnesses said the scale of troop movements was this time far larger.

If confirmed, it would be Addis Ababa’s first large scale incursion since it invaded Somalia in 2006 with U.S. backing.

Ethiopia pulled out three years later after failing to restore order in its lawless neighbor, which has lacked a functioning government for two decades.

The Galgudud area is largely under the control of an anti-Shebab militia called Ahlu Sunna wal Jamaa, factions of which have close ties with Ethiopia.

Ethiopian soldiers were reported to be up to 50 kilometers (30 miles) inside Somalia in that area.

Full article - Al Arabiya
 
Ethiopian troops cross into Somalia: witnesses
Saturday, 19 November 2011
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Somali refugees camp in an open ground near the Kenya-Somalia border town of Liboi. (Reuters)

By AFP. Nairobi

Several hundred Ethiopian troops crossed on Saturday into southern and central Somalia, local elders said, but Addis Ababa dismissed the reports as "absolutely not true."

"There are several hundred Ethiopian troops here in lorries and some armored vehicles too," said elder Abdi Ibrahim Warsame, speaking by telephone from Gurel town, in Somalia's central Galgudud region.

Ethiopian forces were also reported in the Hiran region at the town of Beletweyne, some 30 kilometers (18 miles) into Somalia, an area contested by Islamist Shebab rebels and pro-government militia.

"They are here, the Ethiopian soldiers in trucks have reached Beletweyne with many forces," said elder Ahmed Liban. "The Shebab in the area are pulling back, away from them." But Ethiopia dismissed the reports outright.

"It is absolutely not true, there are absolutely no troops in Somalia," said Ethiopian foreign ministry spokesman Dina Mufti. "People are simply speculating."

Small numbers of Ethiopian forces have been reported operating in Somali border regions in the recent past, but witnesses said the scale of troop movements was this time far larger.

If confirmed, it would be Addis Ababa's first large scale incursion since it invaded Somalia in 2006 with U.S. backing.

Ethiopia pulled out three years later after failing to restore order in its lawless neighbor, which has lacked a functioning government for two decades.

The Galgudud area is largely under the control of an anti-Shebab militia called Ahlu Sunna wal Jamaa, factions of which have close ties with Ethiopia.

Ethiopian soldiers were reported to be up to 50 kilometers (30 miles) inside Somalia in that area.

Full article - Al Arabiya
nawapongeza ethiopia-good work
 
Al Shabaab Leadership Profiles
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Al Shabaab military parade (SITE Intelligence Group)

The structure of al Shabaab is important to understanding how the group operates. Al Shabaab leaders are members of a Shura Council; the number of council members is unknown. The Shura Council has set al Shabaab’s policy in Somalia, and local administrations are expected to abide by this policy. The power that al Shabaab’s Shura Council holds over more local administrations varies geographically. Further, internal divisions within al Shabaab’s leadership materialized when the group began to publicly align itself with al Qaeda and the global jihad network.

The Critical Threats Project has produced profiles of the following al Shabaab leaders:

Ahmed Abdi Godane (Mukhtar Abu Zubair)
, leader (emir)

Sheikh Mukhtar Robow (Abu Mansur), deputy leader (deputy emir)

Ali Mohamed Rage (Ali Dhere), spokesman

Hassan Dahir Aweys, senior member and former leader of Hizb al Islam

Fuad Mohamed Qalaf (Shongole), senior member

Ibrahim Haji Jama Mead (Ibrahim al Afghani), senior member

Source: Criticalthreats.org
 
The structure of al Shabaab is important to understanding how the group operates. Al Shabaab leaders are members of a Shura Council; the number of council members is unknown. The Shura Council has set al Shabaab’s policy in Somalia, and local administrations are expected to abide by this policy. The power that al Shabaab’s Shura Council holds over more local administrations varies geographically. Further, internal divisions within al Shabaab’s leadership materialized when the group began to publicly align itself with al Qaeda and the global jihad network.
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Al Shabaab Leadership Profiles
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Al Shabaab military parade (SITE Intelligence Group)

al Shabaab’s leadership materialized when the group began to publicly align itself with al Qaeda and the global jihad network.
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Kenya wameingizwa mjini na washauri wao. Ile jumuiya ya Afrika Mashariki ilikuwa inaongeza wanachama na kujitanua. US-West hawataki kuona hii kitu. Sasa wanapeleka mapigano kila kona ili wajivunie mali ghafi zao bila jasho.
Kenya isaidieni Al shabaab iingie madarakani kama US-West walivyosaidia waasi Libya. Hapo mtafanya la maana, jifunzeni kutoka kwa wahuni wa dunia. US-NATO. Al shabaab watawafanya marafiki.
 
Wakenya wanazidi kujisifia!
Hawa jamaa wanazidi kujisifia kabla hata hawajafanya mapambano na Al Shabaab. Hebu soma wanavojiona eti sasa wao ni mangangari wa kivita ukanda wa Afrika mashariki na hapo hapo wanaitupia Tanzania madongo kwa mbali.

How war boosts Kenya’s regional, global clout
war.jpgBy CHARLES ONYANGO-OBBO Sunday, November 20 2011 at 13:21

Kenya’s war, and Burundi and Uganda’s aggressive peacekeeping in Somalia, are having a far-reaching and unintended impact inside the East African Community countries.

While the three EAC countries all entered troubled Somalia to save it, there are signs that it is Somalia that is changing the way these countries do business at home.

The effect of the Somalia war, especially the activities of Al Shabaab, are even being felt in countries like Tanzania — which is not involved either as a peacekeeper or fighting force in Somalia — through the number of its young people being recruited into the militant group’s regional network. Last week, Home Affairs Minister Shamsi Vuai Nadodha announced that 10 Tanzanians had been arrested in Mogadishu fighting alongside the Shabaab.

While Kenya’s entry into the Somalia fray has its critics, it has kicked off a wave of nationalist sabre-rattling on the Internet.
Not surprising, because though Kenya is the EAC’s leading economy, it was largely viewed as a wimpish nation, with an untested military led by pampered generals growing potbellied in luxury and never having to worry about firing a shot in anger.

Makala hii ni ndefu lakini unaweza kuisoma yote kwenya The East African
 
Wakenya wanazidi kujisifia!
Hawa jamaa wanazidi kujisifia kabla hata hawajafanya mapambano na Al Shabaab. Hebu soma wanavojiona eti sasa wao ni mangangari wa kivita ukanda wa Afrika mashariki na hapo hapo wanaitupia Tanzania madongo kwa mbali.

How war boosts Kenya's regional, global clout
View attachment 41702By CHARLES ONYANGO-OBBO Sunday, November 20 2011 at 13:21

Kenya's war, and Burundi and Uganda's aggressive peacekeeping in Somalia, are having a far-reaching and unintended impact inside the East African Community countries.

While the three EAC countries all entered troubled Somalia to save it, there are signs that it is Somalia that is changing the way these countries do business at home.

The effect of the Somalia war, especially the activities of Al Shabaab, are even being felt in countries like Tanzania - which is not involved either as a peacekeeper or fighting force in Somalia - through the number of its young people being recruited into the militant group's regional network. Last week, Home Affairs Minister Shamsi Vuai Nadodha announced that 10 Tanzanians had been arrested in Mogadishu fighting alongside the Shabaab.

While Kenya's entry into the Somalia fray has its critics, it has kicked off a wave of nationalist sabre-rattling on the Internet.
Not surprising, because though Kenya is the EAC's leading economy, it was largely viewed as a wimpish nation, with an untested military led by pampered generals growing potbellied in luxury and never having to worry about firing a shot in anger.

Makala hii ni ndefu lakini unaweza kuisoma yote kwenya The East African

Charles Onyango-Obbo is not a Kenyan you *%&"^, he's Ugandan. You've spent the last few weeks doing down Kenya and claiming that it's your opinion (and you have a right to it) but now you can't stand someone else having an opinion which is positive about Kenya...you hatred will choke you my friend and you won't go anywhere with it. :ballchain: You just continue venting your hatred, anger and inferiority complex on the internet...Kenya will keep doing what it does regardless and the only one your hatred affects is you! While you are venting, you'll notice that everyone suddenly wants to get in on operation linda nchi...they've seen the way the wind is blowing and are adjusting accordingly...Al-Shabab are on their last legs (i'm sure you're quite disappointed with that) and everyone wants to bask in the glory!
 
Charles Onyango-Obbo is not a Kenyan you *%&"^, he's Ugandan. You've spent the last few weeks doing down Kenya and claiming that it's your opinion (and you have a right to it) but now you can't stand someone else having an opinion which is positive about Kenya...you hatred will choke you my friend and you won't go anywhere with it. :ballchain: You just continue venting your hatred, anger and inferiority complex on the internet...Kenya will keep doing what it does regardless and the only one your hatred affects is you! While you are venting, you'll notice that everyone suddenly wants to get in on operation linda nchi...they've seen the way the wind is blowing and are adjusting accordingly...Al-Shabab are on their last legs (i'm sure you're quite disappointed with that) and everyone wants to bask in the glory!
Cool now, don't get so agitated. It's not good for your mental health. That piece was printed in a Kenyan paper. It doesn't matter whether Obbo is a Ugandan or not. You get my point?
 
Having read the article in full, it's now clear that you either didn't understand it or you are just out to cause mischief. The article does not in any way talk up the martial prowess of KDF as you claim...it just discusses the geopolitical significance of this deployment. As to the two points you've highlighted, he's just showing how even TZ is affected even though it's not involved in Somalia in any way. That you have interpreted it as kutupia TZ madongo is just a manifestation of your inferiority complex. With the second, I don't see why you feel it's wrong for us Kenyans to support our armed forces. Just because you hate us does not mean that we must now be forced to see ourselves through your eyes.

I would suggest that you read the article in its entirety, and comprehend it, before setting yourself the task of analysing it!
 
...I would suggest that you read the article in its entirety, and comprehend it, before setting yourself the task of analysing it!
Ok, it is nice to see you coming back to your senses (i.e. calming down a little bit). It does not help to be jittery everytime you hear Kenya being criticized. You always like to resort to that "inferiority complex" mantra, don't you? As if that helps:-(
 
Ok, it is nice to see you coming back to your senses (i.e. calming down a little bit). It does not help to be jittery everytime you hear Kenya being criticized. You always like to resort to that "inferiority complex" mantra, don't you? As if that helps:-(

Go back. Read. Understand. Comment!
 
Cool now, don't get so agitated. It's not good for your mental health. That piece was printed in a Kenyan paper. It doesn't matter whether Obbo is a Ugandan or not. You get my point?

Stop changing your tune!I hope you now shocked that Obbo is not kenyan.Just go through that report and tell me where 'the so-called Obbo' has cheated.Its true that Tanzania is not involved in the operation to stabilize somalia.Its true that East African military strategists have been forced back to their drawing boards after seing the kind of military hardware used in the Operation Linda Nchi.Kenya has already proved to museveni that our army is not a career one.The Ethiopians also are getting some points from us too.I know that askari kanzu is totally amused that we can realy do this but he cannot admit it openly!
 
Tension Runs High In Kenya's 'Little Mogadishu'
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Eastleigh, a neighborhood of Nairobi, Kenya, is known as "Little Mogadishu," because its home to Somali-Kenyans and Somali immigrants.
Sunday, November 20, 2011

In the Kenyan capital of Nairobi, they call the Eastleigh neighborhood "Little Mogadishu" because it is home to so many Somali-Kenyans and Somali immigrants and refugees. Last month, Kenya launched a military incursion into Somalia, vowing to crush the al-Qaida-linked Islamist group al-Shabab. Kenyan authorities say they will drive out supporters of the Islamist militants who are within their own borders - including in Little Mogadishu. Now Kenya's Somali community feels it has become the target of a security crackdown.

Kenya blames al-Shabab insurgents, who are fighting their own administration in Somalia - and now Kenyan troops in the country's south - for a recent wave of kidnappings of Westerners inside Kenya. The Islamist group has not claimed responsibility. The anti-Western al-Shabab group warns that Kenyans will "taste fire" for their government's military operations, prompting an aggressive official Kenyan response.

Somalis have been accused of laundering millions of dollars of ransom money, collected by pirates who hijack ships. Little Mogadishu has seen a building boom, though the allegation - which was investigated by the Kenyan government - has never been substantiated. Kenya says it suspects al-Shabab has underground networks operating inside Kenya.
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In Eastleigh, a neighborhood of Nairobi, Kenya, that is home to many Somali-Kenyans and Somali immigrants, some residents feel they are being discriminated against.

Concerns About Discrimination
Orwa Ojode, a deputy Kenyan minister for internal security, recently told Parliament that al-Shabab was like a snake - "with its tail in Somalia and its head in Eastleigh" - i.e., in Little Mogadishu. Somali-Kenyans say they feel they are victims of discrimination and their political representatives are calling for restraint.

Aden Duale, a Somali-Kenyan member of Parliament, warns, "If you have a criminal, look for individual criminals, because sometimes we hear ... it's very easy to assume all Somalis are al-Shabab." Duale is concerned by what many consider a blanket threat by Kenya's government, after the abductions of foreign tourists and aid workers in Kenya. He says the Somali community is caught in the middle and is appealing to the government to "distinguish between the criminals and the ordinary citizens," "That distinction should be very clear," he says.

A Feeling Of 'Somali-Phobia'

The streets of Nairobi's Little Mogadishu are generally hectic. Eastleigh is a bustling neighborhood, trading in cheap imports. Shops, businesses, restaurants and mosques bear Somali and Muslim names. But many Somalis fear possible arrest by the police, as well as hostility from some Kenyans, laments Munyadeen Roble.

"Like when you are walking on the streets of Nairobi, or when you're in a public bus, people will look at you bad and say, 'Shabab,'" the Somali immigrant says. He says he feels mounting "Somali-phobia," hearing things like, "Hey, is that al-Shabab? This man, is he al-Shabab? Is he going to do something?"

Roble says it makes "you feel bad, when people is talking to you as [if you are] al-Shabab" - as if the Somali community automatically supports the militant group. Especially, he says, when this is a group that "made you flee from your country." After two grenade attacks in Nairobi last month, hate messages against Somalis were posted on social media sites. The hate posts dwindled after a non-Somali Kenyan was arrested, tried and sentenced to life in prison.
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In Eastleigh, Somali schoolgirl Layla Ahmed, 16, says she's happy that Kenya is trying to drive al-Shabab out of Somalia.

Ahmed Aden, a Kenyan of Somali origin, says he is being marginalized by his own government and police force. He believes they are not doing enough to protect the Somali community. "I feel that whether I have the right identification, whether I have the citizenship, they do discriminate [against] me," he says. "I feel I don't belong here."

A History Of Tension

There is history behind this current antagonism. Tension between Somali-Kenyans and other ethnic groups in Kenya dates back to Kenya's independence from Britain in 1963. Between then and 1967, Somali-Kenyans in the northeast attempted to secede and join neighboring Somalia. In a violent crackdown, the Kenyan government snuffed out the breakaway bid and many innocent people were caught in the crossfire.

From 1979-89, massacres were reported in the region and blamed on Kenyan government troops sent to curb banditry and clashes between rival ethnic groups. But Roble, the Somali refugee, says he and others fled lawless Somalia looking for peace and security in Kenya.

"We Somali refugees living here in Kenya, we came here to get peace. It is good for us to have a peaceful Kenya. Kenya is our second country," he says. "Before these attacks, we were not feeling as foreigners. But now we feel as foreigners."

A Different Perspective

Not all the Somali community feels put-upon. After prayers at the mosque in Little Mogadishu, veiled women selling frothy white camel's milk on the dusty sidewalk had their own opinions about the Kenya-Somalia crisis. Sitting on stools and giant yellow containers, they're not keen to have their comments recorded. Most are too shy to talk publicly. However, 16-year-old Somali schoolgirl Layla Ahmed, wearing a serious smile and a fluffy white scarf wrapped around her head and neck, readily shared her views about al-Shabab and the Kenyan military adventure.

"We are happy that they are getting al-Shabab out of Somalia," she says. "People have a difficult life and are running from there. And we are grateful to Kenyans if they are helping us to get al-Shabab out of our country."

The Kenyan army has not indicated how long it will remain in southern Somalia. But the Somali and Kenyan governments stress they are working in tandem, along with international support, to restore peace to chronically unstable Somalia and drive out al-Shabab insurgents from both countries.

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