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Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!
Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!
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A wise one amongst us is the one who always fight to get a place in Jannah rather than driving good car on earth.
To me what Alshabaab is doing is the right thing,I mean flogging drunkards like you irrespective of whatever muslim school they passed through.Stoning to death fornicators is the only cure of AIDS and very pleasing to Allah.It does matter if you,Mekatili and a bunch of other Kenyans dislikes it. The Alshabaab stance undoubtedly is going to bring them unseen support from Allah of which you will be suprised how undefeated they are.
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Here lies the problem that arises when individuals convert to Islam and do not study the religion but are excited by the pop fiction 'West vs East' lie. Granted Muhammad went to war at Badr, Khandaq and even Uhud, there is not a single verse in the Quran, a single word in Hadith or Sunnah that calls for terrorism. At the Ijma level all scholars of Islam have denounced terrorism and you are left with your qiyas and if after reading the Quran you still find the shedding of blood in this day and age a form of jihad then that is not Islam.
Tell us where it is stated that you should go about killing people for simply not believing in Islam. Fiqh does not back that and remember Muhammad said the most important form of Jihad is Jihadul Nafs.
There are many muslims who have never read the Quran in it's context and also studied its application in today's world and muslims who carry the title about yet know very little about the religion and that is the reason Islam has a very bad reputation the world over and it is up to us to clear this filth from within. It is the same misconception that has made many nations in the middle east the Israel's whipping boys because they use brawn and hatred for anyone they deem a kaafir and go about screaming JIHAD only to be put in their place. This is not 7th century Arabia. Study Islam which should be the religion of peace and not what many infiltrators have turned it into.
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Are you that desperate to start an argument with me? LOL
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Nope!, how on earth do you expect us to read your article in such a state? (no one can read it beyond the second line!!!) unless you are just posting for the sake of it...
Please fix it A.S.A.P:ballchain:
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Al-Shabaab on the run in south zone
Kenyan troops operating in the southern part of the border with Somalia estimate that they have removed the Al-Shabaab from about 50 per cent of the area. Speaking to the Nation at Ishakani Military Camp, about four kilometres from the border at the tip of Kenya, Lieutenant Colonel John Maison Nkoimo said the troops are firm on the ground and remain focused on achieving their objective.
"We're pretty sure that southwards of Burgavo, we don't expect any hostilities," said Lt Col Nkoimo, who is commanding the Southern Sector.
Kenyan troops operating in the southern part of the border with Somalia estimate that they have removed the Al-Shabaab from about 50 per cent of the area. Speaking to the Nation at Ishakani Military Camp, about four kilometres from the border at the tip of Kenya, Lieutenant Colonel John Maison Nkoimo said the troops are firm on the ground and remain focused on achieving their objective.
"We're pretty sure that southwards of Burgavo, we don't expect any hostilities," said Lt Col Nkoimo, who is commanding the Southern Sector.
The camp at Ishakani is the launching point for troops in the Southern Sector ofOperation Linda Nchi, which is being carried out in a three-pronged attack from the North at El Wak, Centre at Liboi and the South at the coast and northwards.Ishakani is a few kilometres from Ras Kamboni, the former headquarters of the Al-Qaeda in East Africa, which was taken on Mashujaa Day.
Burgavo remains under the control of the Kenyan troops, who will then embark on the attack on the important port city of Kismayu, in a bid to strangle the Al-Shabaab economically.
Lt Col Nkoimo said the battle for Kismayu would be fought "on our own terms and at our own time".
In Nairobi, President Kibaki for the second time warned that Kenya will not relent in its military operation against Al-Shabaab militants in Somalia.
The President said the military was determined to complete the task of eliminating the terrorist threat posed by the extremist group.
"In Kenya, we are currently dealing with a militant group based inside Somalia that has sought to destabilise not just Kenya, but the entire Horn of Africa region," the President said when he officially opened the first Africa Congress of Accountants in Nairobi.
Addressing the nation on Mashujaa Day, the President, who is also the Commander-in-Chief of the Kenya Defence Forces, said Kenyan troops would not relent in their pursuit of the militants inside Somalia.
Ten days ago, the Chief of General Staff General Julius Karangi also affirmed the military's determination to complete the mission in Somalia.
Long-standing instability
On Monday, President Kibaki said that Kenya and the region in general would never find lasting peace unless the Al-Shabaab was wiped out.
"A solution to the long-standing instability is good for the Horn of Africa and indeed the entire African continent. Kenya intends to complete the work and operation we have began inside Somalia and create a strong foundation for the prosperity of the continent," he said.
Kenyan troops are on their third week of the incursion against the Somali militants, who are accused of having links to Al-Qaeda.
The offensive, dubbed Operation Linda Nchi, is aimed at weakening the insurgents besides restraining their ability to launch cross-border attacks.
Kenyan troops crossed into Somalia after the militants carried out a serious of attacks within Kenya. In September, Somali gunmen abducted British tourist Judith Tebbutt, after killing her husband, David.
Two weeks later, a French tourist, Marie Dedieu, was kidnapped and was later reported dead.
Two Spanish aid workers were also kidnapped from the Dadaab refugee camp in October.
Somalia has been without a central government since 1991, when dictator Mohamed Siad Barre was ousted.
Meanwhile, the military denied reports by an Iranian news network that fifteen Kenyan soldiers had been killed in the Somali town of Tabda.
Military spokesman Major Emmanuel Chirchir dismissed the reports as part of a propaganda campaign waged by the militants.
Quoting sources within the Somalia government, the reports claimed that the Kenyan soldiers had been killed accidentally by the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) fighters.
At the same time, religious leaders in Garissa on Monday called for calm in the wake of Saturday night's grenade attack on a church in the town which killed two people and injured five others.
In a statement, the church leaders condemned the attack on the East Africa Pentecostal Church, saying it was a criminal act which should be dealt with by security organs.
Burgavo remains under the control of the Kenyan troops, who will then embark on the attack on the important port city of Kismayu, in a bid to strangle the Al-Shabaab economically.
Lt Col Nkoimo said the battle for Kismayu would be fought "on our own terms and at our own time".
In Nairobi, President Kibaki for the second time warned that Kenya will not relent in its military operation against Al-Shabaab militants in Somalia.
The President said the military was determined to complete the task of eliminating the terrorist threat posed by the extremist group.
"In Kenya, we are currently dealing with a militant group based inside Somalia that has sought to destabilise not just Kenya, but the entire Horn of Africa region," the President said when he officially opened the first Africa Congress of Accountants in Nairobi.
Addressing the nation on Mashujaa Day, the President, who is also the Commander-in-Chief of the Kenya Defence Forces, said Kenyan troops would not relent in their pursuit of the militants inside Somalia.
Ten days ago, the Chief of General Staff General Julius Karangi also affirmed the military's determination to complete the mission in Somalia.
Long-standing instability
On Monday, President Kibaki said that Kenya and the region in general would never find lasting peace unless the Al-Shabaab was wiped out.
"A solution to the long-standing instability is good for the Horn of Africa and indeed the entire African continent. Kenya intends to complete the work and operation we have began inside Somalia and create a strong foundation for the prosperity of the continent," he said.
Kenyan troops are on their third week of the incursion against the Somali militants, who are accused of having links to Al-Qaeda.
The offensive, dubbed Operation Linda Nchi, is aimed at weakening the insurgents besides restraining their ability to launch cross-border attacks.
Kenyan troops crossed into Somalia after the militants carried out a serious of attacks within Kenya. In September, Somali gunmen abducted British tourist Judith Tebbutt, after killing her husband, David.
Two weeks later, a French tourist, Marie Dedieu, was kidnapped and was later reported dead.
Two Spanish aid workers were also kidnapped from the Dadaab refugee camp in October.
Somalia has been without a central government since 1991, when dictator Mohamed Siad Barre was ousted.
Meanwhile, the military denied reports by an Iranian news network that fifteen Kenyan soldiers had been killed in the Somali town of Tabda.
Military spokesman Major Emmanuel Chirchir dismissed the reports as part of a propaganda campaign waged by the militants.
Quoting sources within the Somalia government, the reports claimed that the Kenyan soldiers had been killed accidentally by the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) fighters.
At the same time, religious leaders in Garissa on Monday called for calm in the wake of Saturday night's grenade attack on a church in the town which killed two people and injured five others.
In a statement, the church leaders condemned the attack on the East Africa Pentecostal Church, saying it was a criminal act which should be dealt with by security organs.
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MAKE ME! :lol: DESPERADO
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Kenya has taken to the Twitter to publicise its invasion of Somalia, judging that 140 characters is exactly enough to warn innocent Somalis of their impending doom. By SIMON ALLISON.
Warning enemy civilians of their impending doom is not a new technique. Medieval knights would shout threats to the people of whatever town their armies had besieged, lobbing a dead cow over the walls to underscore the danger (as recreated admirably in Monty Python and the Holy Grail), while US planes dropped thousands of pamphlets over Iraq before the invasion, warning citizens to get out of the way of the incoming troops. It's a technique used to indemnify the aggressors, an insurance against possible civilian casualties: "Well, we told them we were coming…".
Kenya has brought this old strategy into the 21st century. Meet Major Emmanuel Chirchir (@MajorEChirchir), spokesman of the Kenyan military and now something of a Twitter legend for his tweets about the progress of the Kenyan incursion into Somalia, getting himself nearly 5,000 followers after just a couple of weeks on the social network.
But with his updates come some serious warnings. "BAIDOA, BAADHEERE,BAYDHABO,DINSUR, AFGOOYE,BWALE, BARAWE,JILIB,KISMAYO and AFMADHOW will be under attack continously[sic]," he tweeted, naming 10 Somali towns that would be targeted by Kenyan forces.
"The Kenya Defence Forces urges anyone with relatives and friends in the 10 towns to advise them accordingly," he added, the 140 character limit preventing him from elaborating on what that advice might be. Get out of town? Hide under your bed? Throw a goat on the braai and have a party because there's not much time left?
Chirchir also had a few things to say on the subject of livestock. Pointing out that Al Shabaab is using donkeys to transport weapons, he warned: "Thus, any large concentration and movement of loaded donkeys will be considered as Al Shabaab activity." Bad news for the many ordinary Somalis for whom donkeys are the only form of transport. But they can't say they weren't warned – it was on Twitter, after all
Daily Maverick
Warning enemy civilians of their impending doom is not a new technique. Medieval knights would shout threats to the people of whatever town their armies had besieged, lobbing a dead cow over the walls to underscore the danger (as recreated admirably in Monty Python and the Holy Grail), while US planes dropped thousands of pamphlets over Iraq before the invasion, warning citizens to get out of the way of the incoming troops. It's a technique used to indemnify the aggressors, an insurance against possible civilian casualties: "Well, we told them we were coming…".
Kenya has brought this old strategy into the 21st century. Meet Major Emmanuel Chirchir (@MajorEChirchir), spokesman of the Kenyan military and now something of a Twitter legend for his tweets about the progress of the Kenyan incursion into Somalia, getting himself nearly 5,000 followers after just a couple of weeks on the social network.
But with his updates come some serious warnings. "BAIDOA, BAADHEERE,BAYDHABO,DINSUR, AFGOOYE,BWALE, BARAWE,JILIB,KISMAYO and AFMADHOW will be under attack continously[sic]," he tweeted, naming 10 Somali towns that would be targeted by Kenyan forces.
"The Kenya Defence Forces urges anyone with relatives and friends in the 10 towns to advise them accordingly," he added, the 140 character limit preventing him from elaborating on what that advice might be. Get out of town? Hide under your bed? Throw a goat on the braai and have a party because there's not much time left?
Chirchir also had a few things to say on the subject of livestock. Pointing out that Al Shabaab is using donkeys to transport weapons, he warned: "Thus, any large concentration and movement of loaded donkeys will be considered as Al Shabaab activity." Bad news for the many ordinary Somalis for whom donkeys are the only form of transport. But they can't say they weren't warned – it was on Twitter, after all
Daily Maverick
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I have been asking myself how will the poor somali peasant in the rural area will get his tweets, obviously many will end-up be the victims of KDF air strikes he is/was trying to alert them about...
Another Chichir's controversial statement is the treatment of injured people, just imagine yourself in this situation: you are an innocent civilian didn't get the warning tweet(s) got hit by the air strike, you go to the hospital (if there is any) surprisingly instead of been treated you find yourself under arrest because according to his tweeter directives all the injured people are supposed to be AlShabaab affiliated!......
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LOL, YOU did not even realize the article is still intact. what a twat! LOL :lol: POSTED above is a different article the other one from the standard is still intact!!! Goes to show you do not even read the articles but are programmed to start whining! INFERIORITY COMPLEX!
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[h=2]Tanzanian Army[/h]The army, which makes up the majority of the TPDF, is currently in the throes of converting from a socialist style army structure into something approaching the Western model and is suffering considerable difficulties in the process, having major disciplinary problems and a large inventory of equipment, much of which is unserviceable.[SUP][2][/SUP] Still organised in infantry brigades, the army is in reality a battalion-based organisation. One informed observer previously described the current Tanzanian Army as being a force of about 15 lightly armed infantry battalions mounted in transport that sometimes works. While a very large slice of the equipment inventory remains in storage, great efforts have been made in improving the mechanical serviceability of the logistical vehicle fleet and infantry transport.
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- 5 × infantry brigade
- 1 × tank brigade
- 3 × artillery battalion
- 2 × air defence artillery battalion
- 1 × mortar battalion
- 2 × anti-tank battalion
- 1 × engineer battalion
- 1 × central logistic/support group
- Chief of Staff: Lt. General Abdulrahman Amir Shimbo
- Commander of Land Forces Maj Gen Wilcjones Kisamba
- Chief of National Service: Maj Gen SN Kitundu
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[h=1]Kenya's Somali incursion cuts piracy costs in Indian Ocean[/h]
Kenya's operation against Al Shabaab in Somalia has helped reduce ransom demands on captured ships as pirates seek to close deals before a battle between the militants and Kenyan forces at Kismayo.
Kenya's operation against Al Shabaab in Somalia has helped reduce ransom demands on captured ships as pirates seek to close deals before a battle between the militants and Kenyan forces at Kismayo.
Shipping experts said that the amount of ransom demanded by pirates for vessels had dropped by about 50 per cent and could fall further in coming days once "Operation Linda Nchi" (Defend the Country) is completed.
"Initially, the pirates holding captive the Algerian flagged MV BLIDA were demanding $6 million to release the vessel and her multi-national crew. But a package of $3.5 million was delivered on the vessel and they freed it," said Andrew Mwangura, the Seafarers' Assistant Programmes (SAP) coordinator.
It is believed that the militants offer protection to pirates in exchange for cash, arms and logistics in a pirate value chain estimated to be worth between $4.9 billion and $8.3 billion.
MV BLIDA with its 27 crew was hijacked on January 1 on her way to Dar-es-Salaam, Tanzania from Salalah in Oman.
The turn of events comes as a relief to shippers who are shouldering the commercial burden of piracy along the gulf of Eden.
Maritime sources privy to ransom negotiations in Mombasa said the military campaign had tilted negotiations in favour of vessel owners as pirates rush to close deals.
London and Mombasa are cited in various reports as among the towns where where negotiations for ransom are conducted.
"Pirates are keener than before to make sure that negotiations for the release of at least nine vessels held in Somali are completed," said a manager at one of a Mombasa-based shipping agents, who wished to remain anonymous. "It is clear the trend is due to the military operation in Somalia."
The fall of Gen Said Barre's administration in 1992 plunged Somalia into civil strife, disintegrating its navy and coastguard services, marking the onset of piracy along its coast.
The surge in piracy led to an increase in the price of ransoms in recent years with $9.5 million for the release of Samho Dream, a South Korean oil tanker, in November last year the highest amount paid to date.
"In 2005, ransoms averaged around $150,000. By 2009, the average ransom was around $3.4 million. In 2010, ransoms averaged $5.4 million. Higher ransom demands lengthen negotiations and the duration seafarers are held hostage," said Fredrick Wahutu, a maritime expert in Mombasa.
The Kenyan economy has borne the brunt of piracy with the Kenyan Shippers Council estimates showing that the crime increases the cost of imports by $23.8 million and exports by $9.8 million per month. These costs are then passed on to consumers.
Gilbert Langat, the Chief Executive of the shippers council, said piracy could have pushed up the price of imported goods by up to 10 per cent, fuelling inflation in the country.
The cost of insurance in the shipping sector have also been on the rise as shippers take extra covers for war risk, kidnap and ransom in addition to conventional underwriting of cargo and hull.
"The Gulf of Aden was classified as a ‘war risk area' by Lloyds Market Association (LMA) Joint War Committee in May 2008, and is therefore subject to these specific insurance premiums," Capt Wahutu said in an earlier interview
The country has also lost out in cruise ship business because of the illegal activities with the number of expeditions arriving at Mombasa dropping from 40 in 2007, to 16 in 2008 and two last year.
A cruise ship earns Kenya between $200,000 and $350,000 per arrival depending on the duration its patrons stay at the Coast.
Industry sources estimate Kenya may have lost $6 million through reduced cruise ship activity over the four years.
"Initially, the pirates holding captive the Algerian flagged MV BLIDA were demanding $6 million to release the vessel and her multi-national crew. But a package of $3.5 million was delivered on the vessel and they freed it," said Andrew Mwangura, the Seafarers' Assistant Programmes (SAP) coordinator.
It is believed that the militants offer protection to pirates in exchange for cash, arms and logistics in a pirate value chain estimated to be worth between $4.9 billion and $8.3 billion.
MV BLIDA with its 27 crew was hijacked on January 1 on her way to Dar-es-Salaam, Tanzania from Salalah in Oman.
The turn of events comes as a relief to shippers who are shouldering the commercial burden of piracy along the gulf of Eden.
Maritime sources privy to ransom negotiations in Mombasa said the military campaign had tilted negotiations in favour of vessel owners as pirates rush to close deals.
London and Mombasa are cited in various reports as among the towns where where negotiations for ransom are conducted.
"Pirates are keener than before to make sure that negotiations for the release of at least nine vessels held in Somali are completed," said a manager at one of a Mombasa-based shipping agents, who wished to remain anonymous. "It is clear the trend is due to the military operation in Somalia."
The fall of Gen Said Barre's administration in 1992 plunged Somalia into civil strife, disintegrating its navy and coastguard services, marking the onset of piracy along its coast.
The surge in piracy led to an increase in the price of ransoms in recent years with $9.5 million for the release of Samho Dream, a South Korean oil tanker, in November last year the highest amount paid to date.
"In 2005, ransoms averaged around $150,000. By 2009, the average ransom was around $3.4 million. In 2010, ransoms averaged $5.4 million. Higher ransom demands lengthen negotiations and the duration seafarers are held hostage," said Fredrick Wahutu, a maritime expert in Mombasa.
The Kenyan economy has borne the brunt of piracy with the Kenyan Shippers Council estimates showing that the crime increases the cost of imports by $23.8 million and exports by $9.8 million per month. These costs are then passed on to consumers.
Gilbert Langat, the Chief Executive of the shippers council, said piracy could have pushed up the price of imported goods by up to 10 per cent, fuelling inflation in the country.
The cost of insurance in the shipping sector have also been on the rise as shippers take extra covers for war risk, kidnap and ransom in addition to conventional underwriting of cargo and hull.
"The Gulf of Aden was classified as a ‘war risk area' by Lloyds Market Association (LMA) Joint War Committee in May 2008, and is therefore subject to these specific insurance premiums," Capt Wahutu said in an earlier interview
The country has also lost out in cruise ship business because of the illegal activities with the number of expeditions arriving at Mombasa dropping from 40 in 2007, to 16 in 2008 and two last year.
A cruise ship earns Kenya between $200,000 and $350,000 per arrival depending on the duration its patrons stay at the Coast.
Industry sources estimate Kenya may have lost $6 million through reduced cruise ship activity over the four years.
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Jeff Koinange at it: 3 Sides of a Coin_Somalia
5:42 "And in the midst of all this untested and inexperienced Kenyan Defence Forces trying to capture key towns like Kismayu. The question many experts and analysts are asking is: is this a smart move or very risky gamble? And speaking of gambles, if you were a gambler who would you put your money on after looking at this scenario? Don't say you weren't warned."
5:42 "And in the midst of all this untested and inexperienced Kenyan Defence Forces trying to capture key towns like Kismayu. The question many experts and analysts are asking is: is this a smart move or very risky gamble? And speaking of gambles, if you were a gambler who would you put your money on after looking at this scenario? Don't say you weren't warned."
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At least some people have the courage to admit it, i like the soundtrack...
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Martin Ngatia - The Chairman of Kenya Red Alliance (KRA) Speaks:
PART I:
PART II:
PART III:
PART IV:
PART V:
PART VI:
- No to the war;
- Majority of Kenyans don't support this war, Kenyans are not stupid;
- Kenya cannot win the war because it has no money poor people (Turkanas and Samburus) are dying of starvation, hospitals are collapsing (Moi referral hospital);
- The head of Alshabaab is in Islii Nairobi the tail is in Somalia;
- Somali pirates invest their ill gained money in Kenya, Kenyan economy benefit from it;
- KDF is full of criminals they raped, tortured, and killed their own citizens in Mt. Elgon, things will be worse in Somalia..
PART I:
PART II:
PART III:
PART IV:
PART V:
PART VI:
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Mr. Programmer,tells us more about M-pesa being a kenyan innovation...avoid ostritch tactics.
I maybe an 'ujamaa analyst' but atleast I know that Michael Joseph fooled you into believing that M-pesa is a Kenyan innovation.Mr. Programmer can u 'debunk' this...
So much for the huge claim 'ICT hub of Africa' with only Safaricom and Telkom having 3G network while even Tanzania which is not even ranked in top 3 in Africa boasts of of more than 4 3G networks!Do not underestimate Africa that much!
One thing that is clear,you seem to know very little about Africa and that's you can't go further than yapping nonsense that we expect to hear from illiterates drunkards in the village markets.
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Bantugbro, I corrected the urls and now the videos are watchable. Thanks for the info!
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