Kenya declares war on Al Shabaab!

[Askari Kanzu]

Anyone who's read this thread for more than two minutes

Does that include me too?

 

[livefire]

Unamhukumu mwenzako wakati wewe mwenyewe huijui historia vizuri? Mwaka 2006 Ethiopia hawakupigana na al-Shabaab bali Islamic Courts Union (ICU). Na hao wamarekani etc. hivyo hivyo. Operation Restore Hope in early 90's was not aimed at al-Shabaab at all (in fact al-Shabaab was not existing at that time). Get your facts right before you start accusing others of lack of knowledge!

you are infatuated with radicalism and i dont blame you. wat changed in somalia might be the name and insignia buh its one and the same thing,#a terror outfit under a new banner(alshabaab)...in any case, doesnt ICU and alshabaab use the same methods of administration, dont they uphold the harsh form of islamic laws? U actually disappoint when u let a shadowy obvious fact to be ua case point. bring substantive discussion to the forum and we shall square it out.

 

[bagamoyo]

Nairobi, Kenya
17.December. 2011
Operation Linda Nchi
Updated 1 hour ago

ENJOY YOUR CHRISMAS, KENYANS TOLD BY SECURITY AGENCIES

Security agencies have assured Kenyans of safety during the festive season.


The Kenya Police and the military Saturday said security within the country and its borders had been beefed up ahead of Christmas and New Year celebrations.


Police spokesperson Eric Kiraithe said they will conduct regular and sporadic operations especially in crowded places including beaches, hotels, supermarkets and bus stops.


He said the police will also work closely with management of such establishments to guarantee the safety of revellers.


"We have made sure that Kenyans will enjoy the holiday without any security lapse," Mr Kiraithe told journalists in Nairobi accompanied by the military spokesperson Cyrus Oguna.


Colonel Oguna said Kenyan troops pursuing Somalia militia Al-Shabaab had reported considerable success in Operation Linda Nchi.


He said the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) made air strikes in a command centre of the Al-Shabaab ....................

READ MORE source :Enjoy your Christmas, Kenyans told*- News*|nation.co.ke

Dear Neighbours
Merry Christmas and all the best for 2012

 

[kshaka]

Does that include me too?

Maybe. It depends on your capacity for introspection. If you look back on the posts you've made on this thread; especially the ones where you wished that Kenyan towns be attacked/engulfed in chaos, anticipating eagerly the deaths of Kenyans and denigrating every little thing that Kenya does, do you feel you have engaged on this in good faith?

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Maybe. It depends on your capacity for introspection. If you look back on the posts you've made on this thread; especially the ones where you wished that Kenyan towns be attacked/engulfed in chaos, anticipating eagerly the deaths of Kenyans and denigrating every little thing that Kenya does, do you feel you have engaged on this in good faith?

Why keep on repeating this. Is this the only weapon left in your arsenal?

 

[Askari Kanzu]

you are infatuated with radicalism and i dont blame you. wat changed in somalia might be the name and insignia buh its one and the same thing,#a terror outfit under a new banner(alshabaab)...in any case, doesnt ICU and alshabaab use the same methods of administration, dont they uphold the harsh form of islamic laws? U actually disappoint when u let a shadowy obvious fact to be ua case point. bring substantive discussion to the forum and we shall square it out.

I do not understand what you are alluding to here. Just admit that what mzalendo452 wrote contains factual errors instead of trying to play smart!

 

[Kibona]

Mzalendo hujaelewa post yangu, mie nimesema ushauri wa uganda unawaingiza vichakani nyie, Uganda haiko vitani Somalia bali inalinda amani tena chini ya AMISOM hata AMISOM ikishindwa itakuwa sio Uganda.

Nyie mmeenda vitani dhidi ya alshabab halafu mnaanza kufuata ushauri wa Uganda ina maana vita imewashinda sasa mnataka kubadili shughuli na kuanza kulinda amani chini ya majenerali wa Uganda. Halafu wewe ndo hujui historia, wakati Zenawi anatangaza kuingia somalia alisema lengo ni kuwasambaratisha mahakama za kiislam(ICU) waliokuwa wamechukua eneo kubwa la somalia mogadishu ikiwemo.

Wakati huo TFG ilibaki Baidoa tu lakini Ethiopia wakasambaratisha ICU ndani ya wiki mbili na kuiteka Mogadishu na mpaka leo hatujasikia tena kitu kinaitwa ICU pale somalia. Sasa alshabab ikaibuka lakini sio kitisho kwa Ethiopia ila sasa ni kitisho kwa kenya maana wanawashambulia mpaka ndani ya nchi yenu, na nyie mmetangaza vita na alshabab cha ajabu mpaka sasa bado mnajikanyaga miezi miwili imeshapita maana yake mmefeli japo mtakataa.

kwa nchi dhaifu kama somalia mnaweza mkakaa hata miaka ishirini hakuna atakayewauliza lakini kitendo cha mpaka sasa kushindwa kuteka maeneo yote ya alshabab inaonesha mlivyo dhaifu, mnaposingizia mvua inamaana KDF haina wataalam wa hali ya hewa ambao wangewashauri aina ya vifaa vya kutumia wakati wa mvua na kama mmenunua vifaa kama kasuku kwanini msisubiri kiangazi ndo muanzishe vita? Hizo statistics ulizopost zinazoonesha jinsi Askari wa AMISOM wanavyokufa zinaonesha jinsi AMISOM wanavyojitahidi katika kutekeleza majukumu ya kulinda amani huwezi linganisha na KDF ambao wamepiga kambi mbali na mstari wa mbele halafu wamewaacha TFG wapigane na Alshabab huku wenyewe wakirusha maroketi kwa mbali.

Juzi TFG wamepigana sana na alshabab 17km kutoka walipokuwa wanajeshi wa kenya, zaidi ya TFG 10 wamekufa na zaidi ya 25 wamejeruhiwa lakini wakenya muda wote wa mapigano walikauka kau!! hawakuthubutu kuwasaidia TFG mpaka TFG walipotimua mbio, sasa hapo utasema kenya kuna jeshi?

Mwisho wakenya mwache kujidanganya sana na hivyo vifaa, ni kwasababu tu hamjui hata concept ya vita ndo maana mnapayuka sana lakini kenya ina jeshi dhaifu sana ktk eneo la afrika mashariki, KDF haina itikadi moja miongoni mwa wanajeshi, ujasusi ni dhaifu sana, kitengo cha propaganda ni dhaifu mno, KDF lina migawanyiko mikubwa ndani kwa ndani, dhamira ya vita miongoni mwa wanajeshi iko chini sana na mwisho kabisa mahusiano mabovu kati ya kenya na majirani zake kisiasa na kijeshi yameidhoofisha kenya.

 

[Babuyao]

Kibona unanifurahisha sana na posts zako zilizojaa ukweli. Unajua kuwaambia wakenya kinagaubaga bila kificho. Mzalendo452 jibuni hoja za kibona: moja baada ya nyingine kwani amelichambua jeshi lenu vizuri na mipango yenu ya kivita na kuonesha kwamba si kitu. Jibuni hoja!

 

[Kabaridi]

Unamhukumu mwenzako wakati wewe mwenyewe huijui historia vizuri? Mwaka 2006 Ethiopia hawakupigana na al-Shabaab bali Islamic Courts Union (ICU). Na hao wamarekani etc. hivyo hivyo. Operation Restore Hope in early 90's was not aimed at al-Shabaab at all (in fact al-Shabaab was not existing at that time). Get your facts right before you start accusing others of lack of knowledge!

I do not really understand what your point is. The point is, whether ICU (Somali Council of Islamic Courts) or Alshabaab or Imaraah Islamiya, this is a militant group that should be defeated at all costs. It is a militant outfit with ulterior motives.

This are links specifically 4 you to understand this enemy.
http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/post/2212/Al-Shabaab_to_Change_Name_to_Imaarah_Islamiyah
http://www.nctc.gov/site/groups/al_shabaab.html

 

[Kabaridi]

Thanks my friend Kshaka, ambaye hana shauku kuhususu ushupavu wa KDF na ajionee mwenyewe. hi video nadhani itawatuliza joto akina A.K. na wenzake

 

[kshaka]

Why keep on repeating this. Is this the only weapon left in your arsenal?

you've asked a question and i've answered it based on my observation of your contributions here. If you don't like what it says about you, that's not my problem...my only concern is that what i've said is accurate and the fact that you have no response to it shows that it is and, in any case, anyone can check on this thread and see that it is.

Instead of getting shirty with me, look upon what this episode reveals about you as an opportunity, even in tha privacy of your own mind, to consider the moral code that you live by.

That you'd stoop to the depths that you have(morally) in your assessment and your desired outcomes for the events happening in Somalia does not say very nice things about the moral universe that you inhabit.

 

[kshaka]

Kibona unanifurahisha sana na posts zako zilizojaa ukweli. Unajua kuwaambia wakenya kinagaubaga bila kificho. Mzalendo452 jibuni hoja za kibona: moja baada ya nyingine kwani amelichambua jeshi lenu vizuri na mipango yenu ya kivita na kuonesha kwamba si kitu. Jibuni hoja!

Hakuna kuchambua hapo. As I've said before on this topic, making declarative statements without backing them up with anything substantive is meaningless, anyone can do that but it does not constitute debate. That's why most of it is not even worth responding to because it just degenerates into a he said/she said.

 

[Askari Kanzu]

you've asked a question and i've answered it based on my observation of your contributions here. If you don't like what it says about you, that's not my problem...my only concern is that what i've said is accurate and the fact that you have no response to it shows that it is and, in any case, anyone can check on this thread and see that it is.

Instead of getting shirty with me, look upon what this episode reveals about you as an opportunity, even in tha privacy of your own mind, to consider the moral code that you live by. That you'd stoop to the depths that you have(morally) in your assessment and your desired outcomes for the events happening in Somalia does not say very nice things about the moral universe that you inhabit.

You are weak, Bro!

 

[kshaka]

You are weak, Bro!

hmmmmkay, this is relevant how? More to the point, is anything i've said inaccurate? Does this address anything i've said?

 

[HT]

habari wandugu zangu wakenya na watz. Naona utani wa jadi bado unaendelea. Calm down and discuss, wengine tunafuatilia kimya kimya. Mkiweka matusi mtatukimbiza. Mbarikiwe

 

[livefire]

I do not understand what you are alluding to here. Just admit that what mzalendo452 wrote contains factual errors instead of trying to play smart!

this doesnt befit any reply, u got good research skills, can you please utilise it. #i find no errors in mzalendoz thread contextwise or otherwise.he is crystal in his analysis. am being fair here, maybe you just dont comprehend wat u rait.

 

[Askari Kanzu]

this doesnt befit any reply, u got good research skills, can you please utilise it. #i find no errors in mzalendoz thread contextwise or otherwise.he is crystal in his analysis. am being fair here, maybe you just dont comprehend wat u rait.

Contextwise or otherwise? Then please don't waste my time, ok?

 

[livefire]

Contextwise or otherwise? Then please don't waste my time, ok?

1) i dont do monkey business, plus how u invest ua time shouldnt be in consultation with me, ok!
2) highlighting/selective reply doesnt proove a thing, this is no conversation platform at a personal level but a forum to exchange ideas. if your ideas are irrational to some extent, al do you the favour and tell it head on n expecting the same from anywan who feels ma contribtion is ill informed.cool the pressures in your head, its bad for your health and logical thinking too. Can we move on now as civies and deal with facts other than personal passions?

 

[Askari Kanzu]

1) i dont do monkey business, plus how u invest ua time shouldnt be in consultation with me, ok!
2) highlighting/selective reply doesnt proove a thing, this is no conversation platform at a personal level but a forum to exchange ideas. if your ideas are irrational to some extent, al do you the favour and tell it head on n expecting the same from anywan who feels ma contribtion is ill informed.cool the pressures in your head, its bad for your health and logical thinking too. Can we move on now as civies and deal with facts other than personal passions?

What's wrong with you. I have already told you not to waste my time. Why keep on with your monkey bizniss with me? In Kiswahili I would put it this way: kama bado unawashwa nieleze wapi nikukune na nitafanya hivyo!

 

[livefire]

What's wrong with you. I have already told you not to waste my time. Why keep on with your monkey bizniss with me? In Kiswahili I would put it this way: kama bado unawashwa nieleze wapi nikukune na nitafanya hivyo!

haha...(am suspending rules of engagement but briefly) how does it feel to be on the receiving end, nkt!!...wats the nikune shit u trying to propose, DUDE!! tema hiyo mate, ua msemo sounds so gay. Rearrange ua thots and engage, i.e. if u got anything to do with combat, alshabaab or somalia. READ TITLE.