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Geza Ulole you are always praying for our downfall unfortunately it never materializes. Shughulika na LDC yako na mkicheza tunanyakua Pemba.
Somalia given greenlight to respond in border case
TUESDAY FEBRUARY 13 2018
The area in the Kenya-Somalia maritime border dispute is about 100,000km2 forming a triangle east of the Kenya coast. FILE GRAPHIC | NATION MEDIA GROUP
In Summary
- The court Monday announced that Somalia should respond to Kenya’s claim that the current flow of the border should remain intact.
- Somalia sued Kenya in August 2014, saying the border between the two countries should extend diagonally into the sea.
- The area in contest is about 100,000 square kilometres, forming a triangle east of the Kenyan coast.
By DAILY NATION
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The International Court of Justice has allowed Somalia to file a response to a case in which it has sued Kenya over a maritime border.
The move kick-starts a fresh round of arguments, which could determine the final flow of the border.
The court Monday announced that Somalia should respond to Kenya’s claim that the current flow of the border should remain intact by June 18, after which Kenya will have another six months to respond.
“The court issued this decision taking into account the views of the parties and the circumstances of the case. The subsequent procedure has been reserved for further decision,” said a statement from the court’s registry.
Kenya's plea
On February 2 this year, presiding judge Ronny Abraham accepted Kenya’s plea to file a second round of arguments, which Nairobi said would take longer to prepare. This means the two countries will have another opportunity to argue before the court.
Somalia sued Kenya in August 2014, saying the border between the two countries should extend diagonally into the sea, south of Kiunga and not eastwards as it is today. But Kenya has argued that this may also affect its sea border with Tanzania.
The current border has existed largely as a result of Presidential Proclamation of 1979.
When the case was presented to court last year in February, Kenya’s preliminary objections were dismissed.
Kenya had argued that the court lacked jurisdiction and that the two countries had signed a memorandum of understanding to have the matter resolved through the UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf, something which Nairobi had claimed was not yet exhausted.
Area in contest
The area in contest is about 100,000 square kilometres, forming a triangle east of the Kenyan coast.
In 2009, Kenya and Somalia had reached an MoU and deposited it at the UN. It proclaimed that the sea border should run eastwards. But the case is also influenced by the suspected oil deposits in the contested area.
Somalia had argued that Kenya was prospecting in the area, something that could expose Somali resources to exploitation should it win.
In December, Kenya filed an argument before the Court saying the matter can best be handled through the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) and insisted its continued exploration, fishing and other activity in the disputed area is based on a bilateral decree issued by the countries’ leaders in 1979.
Somalia allowed to respond in border case
MY TAKE
Nyang'aus should leave us out of their open day territorial theft! As far as i know Somalia does not want to take the whole of Kenya's maritime territory but the 38000 sq km as their point of contention is pretty open n has nothing to do with Kenya's southern border going eastwards parrarel to latitudes. The map in the East African is deliberately distorting Somalia's claim as shown in the map below n i'm pretty sure Kenya will lose this case..
keep consoling urself i am pretty sure Somalia will win the case 95% sure! I will come back here to prove that to u the day of verdict!
Kenya ranked as 'failed state'Geza Ulole you are always praying for our downfall unfortunately it never materializes. Shughulika na LDC yako na mkicheza tunanyakua Pemba.
Kenya wakishinda, Tz itabidi nasi tudai wakenya kipande cha bahari kama vile wao wamechukua from Somalia. I think it'll be fair.
Hawawezi lose aliyakuwa wana macomando hatari likeHii maneno Kenya will lose!
The thing most of you including geza dont understand is that if the outcome favours somalia other similar cases will be opened africa wide and tanzania will suffer too
http://m.dw.com/en/kenya-or-somalia...h+africa&client=ms-opera-mini-android&tbm=nws
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Not a good move
Dude, wacha kukurupukwa , even in the worst case scenario Kenya loses, Kenya actually has to co-sign the rulling together with Somalia for the case to be declared resolved. If the judges want the case solved they will have to make sure it's a win win for everyone... e.g, declare the territory remain under Kenya's sovereignty but any oil or gas discoveries below the sea bed be explored jointly and shared equally with Somalia. That kind of rulling will be something we can both live with.Hii maneno Kenya will lose!
Washenzi nyie mmekwapua territory ya Somalia! No wonder insecurity haiishi Kenya! And who will grant u a seat in the ICC with ur evil intentions?Dude, wacha kukurupukwa , even in the worst case scenario Kenya loses, Kenya actually has to co-sign the rulling together with Somalia for the case to be declared resolved. If the judges want the case solved they will have to make sure it's a win win for everyone... e.g, declare the territory remain under Kenya's sovereignty but any oil or gas discoveries below the sea bed be explored jointly and shared equally with Somalia. That kind of rulling will be something we can both live with.
But if the ICJ in their wisdom decide that an inch of that territory is going to be given back to Somalia, obviously Kenya will reject the rulling and if an appeal also upholds the rulling Kenya will totally reject the rulling ..
FYI, the ICJ has less powers than the ICC, they don't have the powers to arrest anyone, heck at least ICC has the power to issue arrest warrants, the ICJ can't do that, So it all falls back on the UN security council to decide in the event that Kenya regect the rulling and ignores it ..... Do you know why Kenya is aggressively seeking to fill a UN security council seat that will be vacant next year? You better pray every nation sees that move and deny us that UN seat cause if we get it we are going to make sure Somalia looses on any decision that would be left to the Security council .
Kaka, the border between KE and TZ is horizontal just like the way we claim with our Somali Neighbors,Kenya wakishinda, Tz itabidi nasi tudai wakenya kipande cha bahari kama vile wao wamechukua from Somalia. I think it'll be fair.
What do you use your brain for if not for logical reasoning??It doesn't but since the waters will be Somalian every ship calling at Lamu will have to pay a fee to Somalian govt since will have to cross Somalian economic zone making it expensive! And there are possibilities Somalia will also file the case for the Northern Frontier Provinces too!
The guy is plain stupid, he can hate Ke all he wants but let him do so in a smart way.Geza Ulole you are always praying for our downfall unfortunately it never materializes. Shughulika na LDC yako na mkicheza tunanyakua Pemba.
Endeleeni kujengea Somalia Lamu port!The guy is plain stupid, he can hate Ke all he wants but let him do so in a smart way.
Not parading his empty brain
Kaka, the border between KE and TZ is horizontal just like the way we claim with our Somali Neighbors,
If KE loses then TZ will loose Pemba Island to KE
Not ICC, Kenya is looking to fill a seat at the UNSC, United Nation Security Council in New York, and why should we not be given? The current president of the ICJ is a Somali citizen, you want to tell me that his judgemtns against the case won't be biased towards favouring his country and influencing the other judges? Why shouldn't Kenya also get it's foot in the UNSC....Washenzi nyie mmekwapua territory ya Somalia! No wonder insecurity haiishi Kenya! And who will grant u a seat in the ICC with ur evil intentions?