Kenya secures $3.59 billion from China to extend SGR from Naivasha to Kisumu

[nyangau mkenya]

Sisi vipi? Mbona wachina hawaji

Mzee bulldozer aliwaita wafisadi ,pia alitaka kutumia hela ya mkopo kutoka china na kuwapa waturuki wajenge reli kinyume na matarijio ya wachina

Wachina wakasema Tanzania isahau mkopo

 

[REDEEMER.]

Where are they?? The trains??
oooooooh
If you are talking of this ones here, i agree, they wont! I don't think they will be able to look for firewood enough to pull this things.

I forgot to ask you, who designed this Tazara Rail? it looks quite sophisticated for our learned boys and girls training in China

I think you know exactly what type of locomotives am talking about, please find the attachment of our new born locomotives actually they are in the making, sophisticated of it's own unique more over it is fully financed by our own.

In the making, sooner on the rails.

 

[nyangau mkenya]

sophisticated

In the making, sooner on the rails.

😀😀 😀 ati soon on the rails ,which rails ?? Ebu tuekee hapa picha ya hizo rails .

 

[Ian Cruz]

Kweli wana dar is slum ni limbukeni lelemama

 

[REDEEMER.]

😀😀 😀 ati soon on the rails ,which rails ?? Ebu tuekee hapa picha ya hizo rails .

Here you go

 

[REDEEMER.]

Wazee wa old is gold

 

[Edward Wanjala]

I think you know exactly what type of locomotives am talking about, please find the attachment of our new born locomotives actually they are in the making, sophisticated of it's own unique more over it is fully financed by our own.
In the making, sooner on the rails.

Sooner is better, ok now where is are the rails for this??

Just asking this picture you have used here is it from japan?? Or Turkey?? Nooooo this is
Kereta Shinkansen Trains in China!! Are the Trains in Tanzania??

 

[Edward Wanjala]

Wazee wa old is gold

Better than the day-dreamers of Bongolala! Nothing to show but shamelessly googling Chinese trains and wishing they could be theirs. Akili za kitoto kabisa. Mtoto akiona ndege yapita juu angani, ataambia mwenzake.. hiyo ni yangu ... hiyo ni yangu, Exactly the Bongolala brain in Danganyikans

 

[Ian Cruz]

As Tz morons continue to wallow in utopian fantasies ,we have 14 days to launch our thing.....namba zidi kuisoma kwelikweli

source:mwarv


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[Edward Wanjala]

Here you go

Atleast we have done something. we have shown you and you have shared with us about our ugly SGR, now can you possibly share with us your beautiful pictures of trains from Dar is Slum to Morogoro?? Please kindly share with us so that we can appreciate what you have done.

Here are some from our side

 

[Edward Wanjala]

As Tz morons continue to wallow in utopian fantasies ,we have 14 days to launch our thing.....namba zidi kuisoma kwelikweli

source:mwarv


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Those images are dope!! They are satisfying

 

[Bukyanagandi]

As Tz morons continue to wallow in utopian fantasies ,we have 14 days to launch our thing.....namba zidi kuisoma kwelikweli

Ujenzi wa reli in a record time vile vile na Railway Stations zinaonekana ni very modern kabisa, nawapongeza sana kusema ukweli.

 

[MAKANJAMNA]

Mkuu binafsi sielewi kwa nini Watanzania tunapigia debe train ya umeme ya kutoka Morogoro kuja Dar, tena train yenyewe ni ya kubeba abiria siyo mizigo!! Sometimes priorities zetu ni highly questionable - Mkuu nchi gani Africa yenye umeme wa kuaminka labda Egypt na hivi sasa Ethiopia, hivi sasa nchi zetu hizi haziitaji bullet trains kama Shinkansen za Japan au TGV za Ufaransa - priority zetu ziwekezwe kwenye freight trains siyo passenger trains - mwendo kasi wa kufurahisha abiria auwezi kutufikisha popote - tukumbuke revenue zinakuwa generated kwa kubeba mizigo mingi siyo abiria, abiria ni kama Service tu - actually faida yake ni sawa sawa na hakuna.

Kwa upande wetu mimi ningependelea zaidi kama ujenzi wa reli ya kati wangepewa Wachina kama walivyo fanya wenzetu wa Kenya, haya mambo ya kusema reli yetu tutaijenga in piece meal sielewi mantiki yake hata kidogo - reli inapaswa kujengwa seamlessly na contractor mmoja tangu mwanzo wa reli mpaka mwisho, haya mambo ya kusema kilometer fulani ijengwe nchi fulani zinazo fuata wapewe Taifa lingine, yaani kila contractor anakuja na sleepers zake na reli yake mpaka tufike mwisho sijui tuta engage makandrasi wangapi tena wenye workmanship tofauti ingawa wanasema atakuwepo msimamizi mkuu wa Project hii mimi 'am not convienced hata kidogo, tungekuwa serious tusingezungumzia trains za umeme za abiria kutoka Moro kuja Dar wakati nishati ya umeme nchini bado ni mgogoro, hayo yanaweza kufanyika tukiwa na umeme wa kuaminika hata wenzetu wa Kenya siyo kwamba wanashindwa kuweka Loco za umeme wanasubiri mpaka watakapo kuwa na umeme wa kutosha na kuaminika - Locos ni rahisi kuzibadirisha kutoka kwenye mfumo wa Diesel Electric to pure Electric Locos at opportune time siyo hivi sasa.

Magufuli hataki ujanja ujanja.. maana kama ishu ni kujenga ingejengwa toka enzi za JK lakini wazi kabisa kulikuwa na harufu ya ufisadi.. na hicho hakimsumbui yeye ni sisi wananchi ndio tutakao ingia kwenye hilo deni.

Ni bora kujenga kwa hela ya ndani ili tupunguze deni, maana clearly serikali imeinyesha interest ya kukopa.. ila inataka mkopo ambao watakuwa na say nao.. sio wa hawa wachina ambao una makandokando na masharti mengi ya kinyonyaji.

Kuna reli ambazo zimejengwa na makandarasi wengi.. na inawezekana kwa kuwa standards zinajulika, na tenda ya kujenga awamu ya Moro-Dodoma imetangazwa ina maana mkandarasi anayejenga sasa hivi anaweza kushinda kama ana vigezo.

Na vilevile, kuhusu mizigo, tunajua wazi wanajenga bandari kavu, ina maana malori hayataingia tena Dar..

Mwisho.. haya mambo yameshapangwa, sio kwamba wanakurupuka.

 

[KENPAULITE]

wacha mdomo, leta spec sheet ya hizo two locomotives, the Kenyans ones ni DF8B, currently in use in mainland china, please enlighten us the kind of freight models you will purchase?

 

[Manbad]

Cc nn tatzo?

 

[kevochoro]

Usidanganye watu, Kenyans are not only primed to apply a law of the junggle they also have an inflated view of their importance in East Africa - One more thing, 4 some strange reasons you seem to have 4gotten how Kenyatta went down on his knees begging Ti Xing Ping kuwajengea reli, kama nyinyi zaidi kwa nini mmeshindwa kujenga reli kwa kutumia coffers zenu - maneno tu na majisifu.

We don't want to be economic giants just on paper it won't help us.Kenyans are always very impatient with renders on paper that's y u c our government implementing projects in haste.We r not competing u guys coz we have a blue print which is vision 2030.we will continue posting
development news daily here in jf for the world to witness how visions make wonders

 

[Edward Wanjala]

wacha mdomo, leta spec sheet ya hizo two locomotives, the Kenyans ones ni DF8B, currently in use in mainland china, please enlighten us the kind of freight models you will purchase?

Ok umeuliza, DF8B ndio Freight Locomotive

DF11G Ndio passenger locomotives

 

[Depay]

I think you know exactly what type of locomotives am talking about, please find the attachment of our new born locomotives actually they are in the making, sophisticated of it's own unique more over it is fully financed by our own.

In the making, sooner on the rails.

Pwahahahaa... I have never laughed this louder. Mtafungia generators ngapi iweze kufika moro

 

[Edward Wanjala]

Pwahahahaa... I have never laughed this louder. Mtafungia generators ngapi iweze kufika moro

Pwahahahahaha

 

[kilam]

Mkuu binafsi sielewi kwa nini Watanzania tunapigia debe train ya umeme ya kutoka Morogoro kuja Dar, tena train yenyewe ni ya kubeba abiria siyo mizigo!! Sometimes priorities zetu ni highly questionable - Mkuu nchi gani Africa yenye umeme wa kuaminka labda Egypt na hivi sasa Ethiopia, hivi sasa nchi zetu hizi haziitaji bullet trains kama Shinkansen za Japan au TGV za Ufaransa - priority zetu ziwekezwe kwenye freight trains siyo passenger trains - mwendo kasi wa kufurahisha abiria auwezi kutufikisha popote - tukumbuke revenue zinakuwa generated kwa kubeba mizigo mingi siyo abiria, abiria ni kama Service tu - actually faida yake ni sawa sawa na hakuna.

Kwa upande wetu mimi ningependelea zaidi kama ujenzi wa reli ya kati wangepewa Wachina kama walivyo fanya wenzetu wa Kenya, haya mambo ya kusema reli yetu tutaijenga in piece meal sielewi mantiki yake hata kidogo - reli inapaswa kujengwa seamlessly na contractor mmoja tangu mwanzo wa reli mpaka mwisho, haya mambo ya kusema kilometer fulani ijengwe nchi fulani zinazo fuata wapewe Taifa lingine, yaani kila contractor anakuja na sleepers zake na reli yake mpaka tufike mwisho sijui tuta engage makandrasi wangapi tena wenye workmanship tofauti ingawa wanasema atakuwepo msimamizi mkuu wa Project hii mimi 'am not convienced hata kidogo, tungekuwa serious tusingezungumzia trains za umeme za abiria kutoka Moro kuja Dar wakati nishati ya umeme nchini bado ni mgogoro, hayo yanaweza kufanyika tukiwa na umeme wa kuaminika hata wenzetu wa Kenya siyo kwamba wanashindwa kuweka Loco za umeme wanasubiri mpaka watakapo kuwa na umeme wa kutosha na kuaminika - Locos ni rahisi kuzibadirisha kutoka kwenye mfumo wa Diesel Electric to pure Electric Locos at opportune time siyo hivi sasa.

Inaonesha wewe hufuatilii huu mradi hata kidogo, unatengeneza mambo kichwani mwako halafu unaanza kuyatolea maelezo mambo hayo ambayo sio sahihi. Kama hauna habari kamili ni bora kunyamaza kuliko kuokota vitu kwenye mitandao ya udaku na kuja kutapika humu.

1. Lengo kuu ka mradi huu ni kubeba mizigo na sio abiria, kutokea Isaka reli itaelekea mpakani kwa Rwanda na Burundi kwa ajili ya usafirishaji wa mizigo yao kutoka bandari ya Dar es Salaam. Soma hapa chini kuhusu mradi wote kabla ya kuanza kukurupuka.

Background – Dar es Salaam-Isaka-Kigali/Keza-Musongati Railway Project

2. Kuhusu umeme, treni zetu zitakuwa ni hybrid (zinatumia dizeli na umeme). Gharama ya reli yetu ni Usd 4.05m / km wakati ya Kenya ni maradufu ya hio na yao ni dizeli tu. Hakuna ubaya wa kuweka umeme maana kuna miradi mingi ya uzalishaji umeme inaendelea.

3.Kuhusu kuwa na wakandarasi tofauti, reli zina viwango vinavyojulikana kwa kila mkandarasi na hamna shida mradi kufanywa na wakandarasi tofauti. Sababu ya kugawa mradi ni kuharakisha ujenzi wake, siku si nyingi RAHCO watatangaza wakandarasi wa vipande vilivyobakia. Ikumbukwe kuwa hata reli ya kati ya sasa hivi ilijengwa na wakandarasi wa kutoka nchi tofauti na miaka tofauti lakini hamna shida yoyote.

4. Ni upumbavu kufananisha mradi wetu na wa Kenya, Kenya wameumizwa na Wachina na reli yao ni ya hali ya chini mno kulinganisha na yetu. Kenya watatumia gharama nyingi zaidi kuweka umeme kuliko kama wangefanya mambo yote kwa pamoja. Fuatilia specifications za reli ya Kenya na Tanzania na gharama halafu uone jinsi JPM alivyo kichwa.

Jitahidi kufuatilia mambo kuliko kuishi kwa kufuatilia vyanzo visivyo rasmi vya wapinga maendeleo.