Kenya wanavyoionea Somalia na kuinyonya kama Wakoloni

[Mkirindi]

Hakuna mpaka kama huo. Kenya ikifanya hivo basi kisiwa cha pemba kitakua Kenya

Ndugu kisiwa cha pemba miaka yote hiyo, hakikuwa kenya, na hakuna mpaka uliobadilishwa. Huu mpaka wa kenya na somalia, ulitaka kubadilshwa miaka 6 iliyopita tuu.

 

[Mkirindi]

Haha we will never cede an inch of our territory. Kaa ukijua hivyo

Tuombe mungu hizi vita za kikabila, zisije ingia kenya, mtakulana, even what happened in Congo, Rwanda and Somalia will be childs play.

 

[Mkirindi]

*First of all. Somalia is an Islamic state. Since when does the US fight alongside Islamic states [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
*Second, the US has most of it's African companies and main embassy in Kenya with a millitary base. Watajishambulia ama?
*Lastly, the home land is their 44th president is in Kenya, and most of their citizens are expatriates in Kenya not to forget Kenya is their number one partner in Africa. US & UK attacking Kenya is just impossible keeping in mind they have the strongest ties with Kenya in this region.

I concur with you, they will never attack kenya, but they will change the goverment or force the guy at the helm, to sign what they want.

Na kwa a few million $, Kenyan politicians will sell their children.

 

[idrey]

You ur very much as a fool you somalians talking like that yet you know that very well that kenyans have lead USA and many other countries as well you people have to stop ..kuchambia mikono learn how to use tissue paper. Na maji.. napia mjifuze kuongoza nchi yenu kabla hamja sema lamu au mombasa au Kenya ni yenu au mmewafundisha wakenya biashara ..?.nyie ni watu waajabu sana na wabinafsi sana ..ukitaka kuoa dada wakisomali Kaka na Baba wanakataa lakini wao wana taka kuo dada zetu ..nakukaa nasisi ndani ya our community with us ...very bad people. Hata misikiti hawapendi kuchangia ..unaweza kukuta wasomali wana msikiti next door neighbor of the other mosque..niwatu waajabu sana hawa jamaa. nime waona sehemu tofauti tofouti Kama vile Johannesburg kule Mayfair city south Africa..Atlanta..London..Lisbon...maputo Mozambique..Texas USA..hawa jamaa wana rundikana sehemu moja. kila wanapo enda ...alafu they feel entitled of so much whatsoever they are or go ..its true they think they are better than the rest..of African descendants. But they are the ones who are suffering from the exclusion I remember they ones take the government of South Africa to court just because they wanted the government to allocate the home offers offices to the area were theys majority of Somalians ... who does that ..u go into someone's country and force the government to allocate extra offices and officials to attend you ? ? Only Somalians

Somalis are very succeful..any town / city with an "east something" is filled with somalis eastleigh/east london etc..They are all over the world including at USA congress and Britain parliament

 

[idrey]

Tunge koma aisee

But are super racist. I even saw one refusing to shake hands with a lecturer at UON during a graduation ceremony. I some times imagine that, what if we were the ones exiled in Somalia?

 

[mzalendoalltz]

Huu wote ni ujinga. Go back to school.
Somalia is not even at top 10 Kenya trading partner.

A peaceful Somalia means they would get almost all their imports from Kenya. Very good for us.
But that will not come at the expense of stealing our maritime resources.

Na uchunge sana. Kenya inasema border ifuate latitude. Somalia inasema border ya maji ifuate border ya nchi.
Hio ikifanyika, Kenya pia inafanya vivyo hivyo upande wa chini, na Pemba inaacha kuwa Tanzania papo hapo.

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Zanzibar ni nchi na huwezi kuiletea mstari unapoishia ni hapo hapo

 

[vulcan]

My friend the stupidity of somalis is their tribal issues, which has taken them to this devastation existing. Kenya should refrain from fueling the problems in Somalia, as they are not immune from tribal wars.

Kenya is fortunate while somalis are picking at each other, they are in piece, but the day they unite kenya will be in trouble. Remember Mzee Jomo kenyatta was very intelligent, when he saw there was no way to win against the shifta he choose the road of peace.

ha ha they are the ones who choose to have a ceasefire..after they realized they will not get NFD n the area was becoming alienated from the rest of the country.
How did Kenyatta chose peace yet they are the ones who started the conflict and never got what they wanted.
Seriously kwani how do you reason??

 

[kennedy0000]

Wewe ndiye Mzembe na juha kalulu, asiyejua kitu, unataka kutuletea gazeti la kenya alafu likupe ukweli, haya magazeti yenu kama yana ukweli, hebu yazungumzie utapeli unaofanywa na viongozi wenu, hebu wawape haki wananchi, na kuwasemea ukweli.

Only a fool like you will believe that, na sio bahari, hamuoni mulivyowaibia ardhi yao kutoka Mandera mpaka Isiolo na garisa.

Kweli mutawacha bahari

Leta magazeti ya Somalia basi. Nyang'au.

 

[kennedy0000]

I said britain and usa always work together..and ofcourse they will work to secure british companies rights to extract oil on those blocks..
As for china, they are usualy not intrested in wars and kenya has already pissed them off financialy

There are more British companies in Kenya, than in the rest of East Africa combined.. Including Somalia.
That's where their interest lies.

Also, Kenya is historically the rightful owner of that disputed territory.
So, stop imagining that UK or the USA can start supporting the claim of a war torn country, over the true owner who also happens to be an ally.

 

[kennedy0000]

Do you think BP can buy useless blocks of ocean? Boss those are experts at off the shore exploration and drilling..wanajua iko kitu just with their seismic analysis
Wao sasa wanajua hio ni mali ya somalia..
Kuwatoa hapo ni kama kutoa Ruto weston hotel

No one has bought the blocks. They have simply been illegally auctioned by Somalia (which they denied by the way).
Anyone wishing to buy, including BP, will buy from Kenya.

 

[kennedy0000]

What you dont know is that the new somalia government is very pro West and has rich friends in UAE / Saudia..thats why they keep having issues at their home in somalia which is traditionaly anti west

Doesn't matter. They are majority Islam.
The US would never support an Islam country over a Christian one.

 

[kennedy0000]

Somalis in Kenya - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

How Northern Frontier District was carved out

Part of present day north eastern was in Somalia before Kenya became a free state.

www.businessdailyafrica.com

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How Northern Frontier District was carved out

Thursday, September 27, 2018 21:12

Part of present day north eastern was in Somalia before Kenya became a free state.

Haiya.. Kumbe unaweza leta link za magazeti ya Kenya?

 

[Mkirindi]

Haiya.. Kumbe unaweza leta link za magazeti ya Kenya?

Dawa ya moto ni moto

 

[Mkirindi]

Doesn't matter. They are majority Islam.
The US would never support an Islam country over a Christian one.

USA will always support $ against anything

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

There are more British companies in Kenya, than in the rest of East Africa combined.. Including Somalia.
That's where their interest lies.

Also, Kenya is historically the rightful owner of that disputed territory.
So, stop imagining that UK or the USA can start supporting the claim of a war torn country, over the true owner who also happens to be an ally.

US/UK only care about their intrests which is $

Doesn't matter. They are majority Islam.
The US would never support an Islam country over a Christian one.

check history, Usa support alot of islamic countries like Saudi/UAE etc

No one has bought the blocks. They have simply been illegally auctioned by Somalia (which they denied by the way).
Anyone wishing to buy, including BP, will buy from Kenya.

The ocean has been sold to british companies, and UK will protect its intrests in all areas whether in kenya or somalia

 

[imhotep]

Somalia ni nchi ya wapuuzi wasiojali utawala wa sheria.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Kenya says the ICJ has no jurisdiction in Somalia sea dispute case


In a case filed by Somalia over the contended potentially oil-rich seabed off the country and neighbour, Kenya’s Indian Ocean coasts, the latter has dismissed the role of the International Court of Justice in deciding the case.

Somalia launched a case with the United Nations’ highest judicial organ in 2014 asking it to rule on the maritime border between the east African states, saying that diplomatic efforts to resolve the disputed boundary had failed.

Somalia wants the court to demarcate the maritime boundary, and to determine the exact geographical coordinates as an extension of its southeastern land borders. Kenya, on the other hand, wants the border to run in parallel along the line of latitude on its eastern border.

Kenya says Somalia jumped the gun when it filed a case before the International Court of Justice though it had signed an agreement to resolve the matter through diplomatic channels.

During the preliminary hearing on Monday, Kenya argued that the world court has no jurisdiction because there are two other methods for resolving the dispute — a 2009 memorandum of understanding between the two countries and a United Nations maritime treaty. Lawyer Payam Akhavan, representing Kenya, told the court that “basic principles of treaty interpretation” mean that “this dispute falls outside its jurisdiction.”

In 2009, Kenya and Somalia reached the deal, which was then deposited to the UN in 2011.

The agreement had stated that the border would run east along the line of latitude although further negotiations were to be held through the UN Commission on the Limits of Continental Shelf (CLCS).

This hearing in The Hague will either result in dismissal of the case or a resolution.

The court’s decision will be final, and both countries will be expected to adhere to the verdict. If dismissed, the original 2009 agreement holds, and the two nations will have to resolve the issue through regional diplomatic means.

Kenya says the ICJ has no jurisdiction in Somalia sea dispute case


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MY TAKE
Hapa vipi? wale wa kudai Mt Kilimanjaro? If Somalia is to win this case Kenya has to forget about the Chinese silk road passing through Mombasa or Lamu! meaning LAPSSET is official dead before even kicking off! Just saying...!🙁

If Somalia is to win the Kenyan maritime economic zone will look this way, cha ajabu mmeanza kukimbia huko ICJ!

Meaning over 38000 sq km will be under Somalia mandate

Somalia has this map to back up their claims

And this map

Meanwhile in Tanzania the exploration oil and gas blocks map looks this way

While those that claim Mt Kilimanjaro exploration oil and gas maps will look this way

 

[Arnold mrass cannambo]

I think you should read more about Somali Issues, UAE is anti-Somali govt, but Turkey is pro-Somali, the SomaliLand Govt is leaning towards KE and KE is opening more diplomatic ties with SomaliLand. SomaliLand govt and the Somali - Mogadishu govts don't see eye to eye..

The Somalis from the govt in Mogadishu are jealous of the the peace and progress in SomaliLand.. they think they should be united and form one govt..

It's a complex conflict, and the maritime boundary is just one of the pieces.

If the conflict with the Maritime boundary goes on, the next move for KE will be to recognize the SomaliLand Govt.. the withdraw KDF from Amisom (But still remain in Somali) ...if that happens just know we are near a military conflict .

Keeping in mind we have over 2 million Somalis in Kenya 75% of them being loyal to the Somali government.

 

[LightYagami]

This is the problem with kenya, if Tz was facing a similar problem..All southafrican countries would stop what they are doing and come to the defence of Tz..Not forgetting all former and pro socialist comrades including cuba ..
Kenya has no genuine comrade at arms only fair weather friends like uganda rwanda and ethiopia..These would not abandon their activities to aid kenya

Kuna some pact ya ku aid Kenya if under attack. Or Kenya to aid Ethiopia. If requested, Ethiopia has to aid Kenya and vice versa

 

[Geza Ulole]

Kuna some pact ya ku aid Kenya if under attack. Or Kenya to aid Ethiopia. If requested, Ethiopia has to aid Kenya and vice versa

Which Ethiopia? This same Ethiopia that ditched Kenya for Djibouti on SGR n Pipeline? Or u mean the Ethiopia that her army kills Kenyans in the Turkana!or Ethiopia that Kenya is in conflict with over Ilemi triangle? Fool u r on ur own!