Kenyan vehicle manufacturer Mobius has received a Sh500 million loan from the US

Kenyan vehicle manufacturer Mobius has received a Sh500 million loan from the US

mwaswast said:
Mrudisheni Lissu kwanza alafu utuambie 1.5 trillion mlinunulia nini?
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Tundu Lissu hajafukuzwa wala hajakataliwa kuingia Tanzania, Miguna ametupiwa kama nje takataka. Hizo ni kesi mbili tofauti usikibie betting, Miguna for 1.5trn info. Deal??
 
hahahahaha mmenichekesha jameni...mara Lissu, mara A380 duh!
 
Lissu kamiminiwa risasi kama kuku hawalioni hilo hawa bongolala
 
Bottas said:
Nenda ukasherekee A380 kutua jnia achia wanaume wamekomaa wajadili hoja hapa. ..
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hii inaitwa career ending tackle! jamaa hivi sasa anauguza jeraha hivi
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Mwanzi1 said:
The devil is on the details, we don't know what kind of researches facility they will have and what kind of products they will develop. It could be just one or two products and the rest they continue to buy off the shelf like what you mentioned before Nissan engines. But your right, it take a minimum of $1billion to develop a small family car, not even a top of range car, but just an ordinary vehicle like VW polo.

We in EAC were not rich enough to be able to own a brand new car, our wages are too small to afford to buy zero mileage car even if we go of a loan. That's why company like mobius they managed to sale only 50 units even though the country imported around 90,000 vehicle every year. Until our people have sustainable wage increase those kind of card the will be driven by the very few. And I'm not sure that what company like Mobius what's
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Wewe unajua jana kuna msiba ulikumba familia moja hapa Kenya. Mtoto wao alipata ajali akiwa kwenye posche. RIP. Wewe endelea tu kusema eti kila mtu ni masikini hapa Africa. Speak for yourself.
 
Tony254 said:
Wewe unajua jana kuna msiba ulikumba familia moja hapa Kenya. Mtoto wao alipata ajali akiwa kwenye posche. RIP. Wewe endelea tu kusema eti kila mtu ni masikini hapa Africa. Speak for yourself.
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Mtu mmoja kuwa na Posche sio wote wanaweza kuwa na Posche. Hizo kampuni za magari wanategemea kuuza magari yao kwa mkopo kuliko cash kwa kushirikiana na local banks. Dunia nzima biashara ya magari mapya ndio inafanyika hivyo, either lease the car or go for hire purchase. Lakini ukiangalia mtu wa kawaida achukuwe mkopo wa $15,000 to $20,000 kununua gari mpya, huku ana watoto wako secondary school and already he has mortgage hajamaliza kulipa wakati akifanya mission zake akapata $4,000 to $6,000 unapata very good second hand Japanese car itakayo mtosheleza for another five years without any major repairs, utachagua lipi?
 
Jay456watt said:
Lissu kakimbizwa hospitali ya Kenya tukamokoa
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Kenya haikumuokowa Tundu Lissu, Dodoma ndio ilimukowa. The first hour after major incidence is critical hour (also known as golden hour). Madaktari wa Dodoma hospital ndio walihakikisha Lissu anaendelea kupumua.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Mtu mmoja kuwa na Posche sio wote wanaweza kuwa na Posche. Hizo kampuni za magari wanategemea kuuza magari yao kwa mkopo kuliko cash kwa kushirikiana na local banks. Dunia nzima biashara ya magari mapya ndio inafanyika hivyo, either lease the car or go for hire purchase. Lakini ukiangalia mtu wa kawaida achukuwe mkopo wa $15,000 to $20,000 kununua gari mpya, huku ana watoto wako secondary school and already he has mortgage hajamaliza kulipa wakati akifanya mission zake akapata $4,000 to $6,000 unapata very good second hand Japanese car itakayo mtosheleza for another five years without any major repairs, utachagua lipi?
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Hilo jina Mwanzi limetumika sana kwetu nilikozaliwa. Hivi wewe unatokea Pande gani za Tanzania?
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Mtu mmoja kuwa na Posche sio wote wanaweza kuwa na Posche. Hizo kampuni za magari wanategemea kuuza magari yao kwa mkopo kuliko cash kwa kushirikiana na local banks. Dunia nzima biashara ya magari mapya ndio inafanyika hivyo, either lease the car or go for hire purchase. Lakini ukiangalia mtu wa kawaida achukuwe mkopo wa $15,000 to $20,000 kununua gari mpya, huku ana watoto wako secondary school and already he has mortgage hajamaliza kulipa wakati akifanya mission zake akapata $4,000 to $6,000 unapata very good second hand Japanese car itakayo mtosheleza for another five years without any major repairs, utachagua lipi?
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Umebonga point. Mtu middle class atafanya ulivyo sema. Swali ni, mbona hii kampuni iliweza kuuza magari hamsini kwa testing phase pekee. Hebu niambie, kama business case yao ni mbaya, kwanini wameweza kufanya jambo kama hilo?
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Mtu mmoja kuwa na Posche sio wote wanaweza kuwa na Posche. Hizo kampuni za magari wanategemea kuuza magari yao kwa mkopo kuliko cash kwa kushirikiana na local banks. Dunia nzima biashara ya magari mapya ndio inafanyika hivyo, either lease the car or go for hire purchase. Lakini ukiangalia mtu wa kawaida achukuwe mkopo wa $15,000 to $20,000 kununua gari mpya, huku ana watoto wako secondary school and already he has mortgage hajamaliza kulipa wakati akifanya mission zake akapata $4,000 to $6,000 unapata very good second hand Japanese car itakayo mtosheleza for another five years without any major repairs, utachagua lipi?
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Sawasawa kabisa.
 
Tony254 said:
Umebonga point. Mtu middle class atafanya ulivyo sema. Swali ni, mbona hii kampuni iliweza kuuza magari hamsini kwa testing phase pekee. Hebu niambie, kama business case yao ni mbaya, kwanini wameweza kufanya jambo kama hilo?
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Mind you, gari Möbius ya kwanza isingeweza kuuzwa kwenye nchi zenye soko la magari lilio endelea. Sababu kuwa na lowest safety standard. No soft bumpers, no airbags, no windows, no power steering, suspension ni za asante Mungu etc. Hizo gari za kwanza nyingi zimeuzwa kwa wakulima na watu wa mbugani. Gari hamsini haziwezi ku break even hata upunguze gahara za uzalishaji chini kiasi gani. Kwa wao kubreak even itabidi waongeze modern safety standard na hiyo inamaana na bei utaenda juu na wauze at least mara 10 ya 50 units.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Mind you, gari Möbius ya kwanza isingeweza kuuzwa kwenye nchi zenye soko la magari lilio endelea. Sababu kuwa na lowest safety standard. No soft bumpers, no airbags, no windows, no power steering, suspension ni za asante Mungu etc. Hizo gari za kwanza nyingi zimeuzwa kwa wakulima na watu wa mbugani. Gari hamsini haziwezi ku break even hata upunguze gahara za uzalishaji chini kiasi gani. Kwa wao kubreak even itabidi waongeze modern safety standard na hiyo inamaana na bei utaenda juu na wauze at least mara 10 ya 50 units.
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Kila mtu akifikiria unavyofikiria Afrika haitawai endelea maanake sote tutasema hatuwezi tengeneza hiki Kwa sababu watu wamezoea kuimport vitu better quality from abroad.

While it is true that it'll be a mountain task to compete with international manufacturers such as Toyota, Nissan and BMW, it is also true that if we don't risk we will forever remain underdeveloped in the eyes of those developed countries you talk of. A developing country has to begin by manufacturing goods that may not be so competitive in the global market and grow slowly. Mobius may not be big now but if started now, by the time our economy grows such that most buyers are able to buy brand new cars, Mobius would be of a good quality like any other car in the world. We don't want to start planning of manufacturing our own cars when we are already at that stage and our market is already taken.

Remember at some point when south Korea and India were just beginning car manufacturing, people used to laugh at their brands (Kia, Hyundai, Ssangyong, Tata, Mahindra etc). Currently those brands are just as competitive as any other. You can't win if you don't try. When Kenya manufactured its first own car in the 1980s, it was people with your kind of thinking who made Kenya stop pursuing her dream because they found the car as not good enough to compete external manufacturers. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if the government had continued with the dream - the Nyayo Pioneer would currently be just as good as any Toyota car and Kenya would be a step ahead. I hope Mobius doesn't give up so that we don't start regretting a few years into the future.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Mind you, gari Möbius ya kwanza isingeweza kuuzwa kwenye nchi zenye soko la magari lilio endelea. Sababu kuwa na lowest safety standard. No soft bumpers, no airbags, no windows, no power steering, suspension ni za asante Mungu etc. Hizo gari za kwanza nyingi zimeuzwa kwa wakulima na watu wa mbugani. Gari hamsini haziwezi ku break even hata upunguze gahara za uzalishaji chini kiasi gani. Kwa wao kubreak even itabidi waongeze modern safety standard na hiyo inamaana na bei utaenda juu na wauze at least mara 10 ya 50 units.
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NairobiWalker said:
Kila mtu akifikiria unavyofikiria Afrika haitawai endelea maanake sote tutasema hatuwezi tengeneza hiki Kwa sababu watu wamezoea kuimport vitu better quality from abroad.

While it is true that it'll be a mountain task to compete with international manufacturers such as Toyota, Nissan and BMW, it is also true that if we don't risk we will forever remain underdeveloped in the eyes of those developed countries you talk of. A developing country has to begin by manufacturing goods that may not be so competitive in the global market and grow slowly. Mobius may not be big now but if started now, by the time our economy grows such that most buyers are able to buy brand new cars, Mobius would be of a good quality like any other car in the world. We don't want to start planning of manufacturing our own cars when we are already at that stage and our market is already taken.

Remember at some point when south Korea and India were just beginning car manufacturing, people used to laugh at their brands (Kia, Hyundai, Ssangyong, Tata, Mahindra etc). Currently those brands are just as competitive as any other. You can't win if you don't try. When Kenya manufactured its first own car in the 1980s, it was people with your kind of thinking who made Kenya stop pursuing her dream because they found the car as not good enough to compete external manufacturers. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if the government had continued with the dream - the Nyayo Pioneer would currently be just as good as any Toyota car and Kenya would be a step ahead. I hope Mobius doesn't give up so that we don't start regretting a few years into the future.
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Wewe ndio umebonga. Hawa akina Mwanzi ni watu wanaeza kunconvince mtu ajinyonge juu maisha haina maana. Watu kama hawa ni hatari sana na watu wajichunge nao. Convincing power yao iko juu lakini wanaconvince mtu venye Afrika hatutawahi endelea. Mwanzi akiweza kuwa positive minded anaweza enda mbali.
 
You dont start manufacturing an Internal combustion engine car in 2018. Thats Just being Miopic, its like manufacturing a CRT color a Tv -1960 Tech and expecting to have any decent marketshare. . Tesla Already have a Model 3 EV that is priced at equivalent ksh 3m, that is Just twice the cost of mobius and its NHTSA approved with 500km Range per charge. China & Britain have already passed resolution to ban ICE cars in their countries by 2040.
 
Anything 70% made locally is better than thebest car made outside, with Mobius, atleast we are cerculating 60% of the money locally, and skilled laboure gets valuable experexperience and exposure... with an Iimported Toyota, the only laboure that benefits Iis the salesman, and the taxman, the rest of the money goes back to SA that assembled the car and Japanese that manufactured the parts
 
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