Iconoclastes
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Oh, and guess who granted those rights and facilitated their operations here?
Dont be silly.
Oh, and guess who granted those rights and facilitated their operations here?wew hujui kitu. ToTAL has the right to explore, appraise, develop and produce kenyan oil. this is according to the agreement. pipeline is part of development. mko hapa wakenya mnapiga kelele tu hamjui kitu
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This is known and we experts we call it as 'government back in or goverment partcipation' but remember, but remember, government back in will omly trigger during the production stage. pipeline is part of development stage my friend. your oil will go to hoima-tanga pipeline whether you like it or not.It has to be thru our terms, as per our agreements. Kenya has to be involved or else end up being wasted like the other mineral rich countries but with nothing to show for; Tz and Nigeria and DRC being the cases in point.
Nobody will dictate to us what should be done with our oil. The development of this sector will be done via cooperation btwn Kenya and the oil companies, and that condencending attitude u are referring to by these multinational oil companies will not be accepted.
hahah. dont cry. you could have expored your fields yourselves man. you have no financial and technical capabilities thats why you asked big companies to expore for youOh, and guess who granted those rights and facilitated their operations here?
Dont be silly.
hahah. dont cry. you could have expored your fields yourselves man. you have no financial and technical capabilities thats why you asked big companies to expore for you
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Tanzania n Uganda have facilitated a fair deal only $12 per barrel unlike $17 per barrel if going to Lamu plus a chance to be blown out by the Al Shaabab. Worry not joining the 6 countries (ET, SS, DRC, UG, TZ n BR) will be the best idea for Kenya uchoyo hausaidii najua roho inakuuma mafuta kupita Tanga. But this is all business.All the more reason why it wld be such an undesirable idea to pass it thru the two countries.
Like I said...
Hakuna agreement Kenya imesign na Tullow/Total isipokuwa exploration license ambayo iko subject to renewal na Kenya inaeza kataa kurenew hio exploration license. Pili Total own 25% shares of this oil so they have no say. Tatu, mali ni ya Kenya na hiyo production license has not been signed. Environmental impact assessment has not been done. Hakuna vile Tullow/Total watatuambia jinsi ya kutumia mafuta yetu. G.O.K kwa strategic plan ya vision 2030 ilisema pipeline ni lazima ipitie Lamu. Get this into your thick skulls Tanzanians, G.O.K INAEZA JENGA HIO PIPELINE NA PESA YAKE. INAEZA OMBA LOAN CHINA OR WHEREVER.Ndio utajua Wakenya ni vichwa ngumu. Sisi apana tambuawew hujui kitu. ToTAL has the right to explore, appraise, develop and produce kenyan oil. this is according to the agreement. pipeline is part of development. mko hapa wakenya mnapiga kelele tu hamjui kitu
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There is oil marketing aspect of that u people don't know how those main oil producer can https://jamii.app/JFUserGuide up Kenya. Na kama mtachukua loan kwa Chinese na mbona msipewe mpaka sasa tangu Keter apige kelele za machungu ya kukosa Uganda deal ati mtajenga pipeline, ni mara ngapi mmebadilisha maamuzi? Mara mseme mtasafirisha kwa SGR 1960s locomotives mara kwa trucks sasa nasikia mnataka kusafirisha kwa punda kama si slavery caravan. [emoji85] [emoji23] [emoji115]Hakuna agreement Kenya imesign na Tullow/Total isipokuwa exploration license ambayo iko subject to renewal na Kenya inaeza kataa kurenew hio exploration license. Pili Total own 25% shares of this oil so they have no say. Tatu, mali ni ya Kenya na hiyo production license has not been signed. Environmental impact assessment has not been done. Hakuna vile Tullow/Total watatuambia jinsi ya kutumia mafuta yetu. G.O.K kwa strategic plan ya vision 2030 ilisema pipeline ni lazima ipitie Lamu. Get this into your thick skulls Tanzanians, G.O.K INAEZA JENGA HIO PIPELINE NA PESA YAKE. INAEZA OMBA LOAN CHINA OR WHEREVER.Ndio utajua Wakenya ni vichwa ngumu. Sisi apana tambua
Tanzania n Uganda have facilitated a fair deal only $12 per barrel unlike $17 per barrel if going to Lamu plus a chance to be blown out by the Al Shaabab. Worry not joining the 6 countries (ET, SS, DRC, UG, TZ n BR) will be the best idea for Kenya uchoyo hausaidii najua roho inakuuma mafuta kupita Tanga. But this is all business.
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They came themselves, and they came scrambling for the opportunuty to get at least a piece of the exploration cake.hahah. dont cry. you could have expored your fields yourselves man. you have no financial and technical capabilities thats why you asked big companies to expore for you
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Supposed to be idiot n not ijiot. ..They came themselves, and they came scrambling for the opportunuty to get at least a piece of the exploration cake.
Kenya is the majority shareholder, and it is amusing how u talk about us being bullied into submitting into every whim of these multinational oil companies.
I already told u, Kenya is not your average African country, a banana republic like Tanzania that can be pushed around like that.
I already posted u the Kenyan law regarding minerals management.
I hope u have the brains to grasp it.
No wonder Tanzania is still an LDC despite being endowed with almost every type of valuable minerals in abudant quantities.
You yield to every demand of these multinationals. You have no balls to stand up against their naked exploitation.
Makanikia comes to mind.
Your president now looks like a very beffudled "Mega- Fool" in the eyes of the world, demanding $150bn from Acacia over their alleged decades of stealing from the Tanzanian people. But one wonders what Tanzanians had been doing all these time whilst this theft of your minerals was happening......at such a grand scale.
And u really expect them to pay u that $150bn?
Ijiots....
Kenya is not Tanzania.
It was a very deliberate mistake.
Imagine..hawa Watu wanataka $150 bn ilhali GDP Yao ni $55 bn. Ati wanataka malipo three times their economy.Enyewe ata thinking capacity ya wengine wao is in doubt.They came themselves, and they came scrambling for the opportunuty to get at least a piece of the exploration cake.
Kenya is the majority shareholder, and it is amusing how u talk about us being bullied into submitting into every whim of these multinational oil companies.
I already told u, Kenya is not your average African country, a banana republic like Tanzania that can be pushed around like that.
I already posted u the Kenyan law regarding minerals management.
I hope u have the brains to grasp it.
No wonder Tanzania is still an LDC despite being endowed with almost every type of valuable minerals in abudant quantities.
You yield to every demand of these multinationals. You have no balls to stand up against their naked exploitation.
Makanikia comes to mind.
Your president now looks like a very beffudled "Mega- Fool" in the eyes of the world, demanding $150bn from Acacia over their alleged decades of stealing from the Tanzanian people. But one wonders what Tanzanians had been doing all these time whilst this theft of your minerals was happening......at such a grand scale.
And u really expect them to pay u that $150bn?
Ijiots....
Kenya is not Tanzania.
kenyatta can never back down when they talk about pipeline,ata total wakinunua mafuta yote kenya.it's either pipeline in kenya or they https://jamii.app/JFUserGuide offKenya ikisema pipeline iwekwe Kenya, Total will take it or leave it.
Hiyo pipeline will boost our economy by creating more economic opportunities in our country. Think about the jobs that the pipeline wld create, the business opportunities, Kenyan urban growth and development, local and foreign investments and the boost for the new port of Lamu and even Mombasa.
Kenya wants more than the oil money. It cannot afford to lose all that to its neighbors.
Kenya wants to make its economy more vibrant. Total knows that such an idea would be very unacceptable to Kenya.
Read the article above.....it is nothing more than wishful thinking. I dont understand what u here are celebrating about.
The Acacia mining Co. itself is not even worth a fraction of that amount, and it is not likely that the company even looted even 10bn$ from Tanzania. The penalty is excessive.Imagine..hawa Watu wanataka $150 bn ilhali GDP Yao ni $55 bn. Ati wanataka malipo three times their economy.Enyewe ata thinking capacity ya wengine wao is in doubt.
Our laws and wishes as a country will have to be respected, for seamless operations here. They musnt behave as though this is aid or favor they are granting us.kenyatta can never back down when they talk about pipeline,ata total wakinunua mafuta yote kenya.it's either pipeline in kenya or they **** off
total can never build a new pipeline while your fielf size is only 600m barrels. first your oil is not commercial with the current oil price.The Acacia mining Co. itself is not even worth a fraction of that amount, and it is not likely that the company even looted even 10bn$ from Tanzania. The penalty is excessive.
Ofcoss this is nothing but mere chest beating, they will get close to nothing in terms of reparation.
Kenya will not go that route of DRC, Nigeria and Tanzania where those mining companies have manipulated those govts, robbed from the pipo, environmental degradation, stoked civil wars and widespread poverty and suffering.
Minerals have been a curse to most African countries, and Kenya must ferociously guard against being yet another statistic.
Things MUST be done in accordance with our laws and interests.