Bilal bin Rabah
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Nipe muda nijipange kwasababu masuala ya kiimani hayataki kujibu bila ushahidi na majibu yawe na mashiko.
Kweli tunapiga vita ugaidi au ni vita dhidi ya uislam?
Kweli tunapiga vita ugaidi au ni vita dhidi ya uislam?
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Nipe muda nijipange kwasababu masuala ya kiimani hayataki kujibu bila ushahidi na majibu yawe na mashiko.
Ritz
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Huo siyo ugaidi hao wanawaitwa waalifu, huwa hakuna gaidi mkirsto hata Joseph Kony siyo gaidi.
Ntuzu
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Thx Mkuu! Ucjali, jiandae vizuri!
Natumaini utakuja na majibu toka ndani ya Quraan!
Asante!
juve2012
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Naona mjadala umerudi mahala ulipopaswa sasa na sie wengine tusiopenda harsh language tunaweza kurudi jamvini .Shukrani kwako Ntuzu na huyu bwana anaitwa bin Rabah mmefanya kazi kubwa sana.Hapo juu ndugu yangu Ntuzu umenikumbusha swali langu mwanzoni kabisa nilimuuliza mzee Said naona anakula krismasi maana hajanijibu(natania tu),sasa sijui kama ndugu yetu bin Rabah na waislam wengineo humu mnaweza kutujibu mie na Ntuzu?Ntuzu ameuliza kama kuna harakati za kujitetea kwa kutumia nguvu zinazoruhusiwa na quran,bin Rabah ukamjibu vizuri tu kwamba zipo lakini kuna vigezo vya kuanzisha harakati hizo ili ziwe halali kwa mujibu wa quran,akauliza tena Ntuzu,akitaka umtajie hivyo vigezo,ndio na mie nakumbushia swali langu kwa mzee Said ambalo bin Rabah naomba uliongezee hapo kwenye swali la Ntuzu,nalo ni hili kwa kifupi,kuna fundisho lolote katika uislam linalomtaka muislam kuutangaza uislam wake kwa maneno na matendo ili upate kujulikana kwa usahihi kwa watu wote hata wale wasio waislam?kama lipo,je,waislam mnafanya nini ili kuhakikisha watu wanatofautisha uislam wa kweli na ule "wa kusingiziwa"?naongezea pia,tunawezaje kutofautisha harakati za haki za waislam na harakati za magaidi wanaotumia jina la uislam kufikia malengo yao mengine?hili ni tatizo kubwa sana ambalo linaukumba hata ukristo nyie wenyewe mnaona watu ni maaskofu wakubwa duniani lakini wanalawiti watoto,makanisa yanaruhusu ndoa za kishoga,hawa akina Cameron ni wakristo waanglikana wanakwenda kanisani na bado wanamwambia maskini wa kiafrika kwamba "hatukupi msaada hadi ukubali kuparamiana",na hii ni sera ya serikali zinazojinasibisha kuwa za kikristo,je biblia inaruhusu hayo?sasa mtu asiye mkristo tunamweleza nini ili atofautishe harakati za ukristo wa kweli na ule "wa kusingiziwa"?unaona hapo?si ndio hili tatizo hata kwa uislam pia isipokuwa tu huku ushoga kule ugaidi?tunazisafisha vipi dini zetu sisi wenyewe kwanza kabla ya wengine kutuambia la kufanya?sijui nimeeleweka?
Elungata
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Talk about jihad.
Verses of Quran on Jihad
Verses of Quran on Jihad
snipa
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TULICHOKOSEA
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Tunajifanya Tunazielewa sana Dini kuliko waliozileta
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na hiz zote Chanzo ni kila mtu anatafuta njia sahihi ya kwenda mahala pema pindi ATAKAPOKUFA
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MPAKA SASA TUMESIMAMA HATUENDELEI MBELE
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mana KATIKA HATUA HII TULIYOFIKA KILA MTU ANAIONA NJIA YAKE NI SAHIHI KULIKO YA MWENZAKE...
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HIVYO KILA MTU ANAJIKUBALI MWENYEWE NA KUANZA KUMCHUKIA MWENZAKE
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ZOTE HIZI NI PILIKA ZA MWANADAM
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Tunajifanya Tunazielewa sana Dini kuliko waliozileta
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na hiz zote Chanzo ni kila mtu anatafuta njia sahihi ya kwenda mahala pema pindi ATAKAPOKUFA
.
MPAKA SASA TUMESIMAMA HATUENDELEI MBELE
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mana KATIKA HATUA HII TULIYOFIKA KILA MTU ANAIONA NJIA YAKE NI SAHIHI KULIKO YA MWENZAKE...
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HIVYO KILA MTU ANAJIKUBALI MWENYEWE NA KUANZA KUMCHUKIA MWENZAKE
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ZOTE HIZI NI PILIKA ZA MWANADAM
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Elungata
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Ntuzu
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Mkuu nami pia nakushukuru!
Niseme mambo machache, Unajua kuheshimu Imani ya mtu ni Jambo la msingi sn na la busara bila kujali nini ana Amini Huyo mtu! Na pia inaitaji kuvumiliana pindi mnapojadili mambo ya Imani na kuepuka maudhi Au matumizi ya lugha mbaya Au kashfa!
Naelewa wengine wako Na uelewe mkubwa Wa mambo haya na wakati mwingine wanalazimishwa na wao kujibu hovyo!
Nilichotaka kujua pale mwanzo ni kumfahamu Adui wao hawa ndugu zangu! Baadhi wametoa maelezo mazuri sn yenye ukweli Kua MUASI ndio Adui mkubwa kupitia mawakala wake duniani! Hilo likawa limekaa sawa! Ingawa ktk matukio ya ndani ya nchi yetu ambayo Hawa ndugu zetu wanalalamikia! Hayo kwakweli ni magumu kujadili!
Sasa kilichopo ni wao ndugu zetu kuelimisha juu ya zile shutuma zitolewazo dhidi ya Imani Yao Kua ni magaidi Au wanaruhusiwa kuua Au kupambana kutetea Au kusambaza Imani Yao! Maana kuna baadhi ya wachangiaji wametoa shutuma na baadhi kutoa ata Aya za maandiko dhidi ya Imani Yao!
Mi Naungana na wewe kabisa Kua hapa tumefika pazuri Kwahiyo ndugu zetu watueleze vizuri ili Watu waweze kuelewa vizuri na kuutofautisha uislam Na makundi ya kigaidi!
Nawashukuru ndugu zangu waislam na wale Wote waliochangia hoja! I respect you so much!
Natumaini ndugu zetu wote tutashirikiana vizuri!
Asanteni!
CHAMVIGA
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Kisha mwisho wake itakuwaje? Jadili vitu vya maana acha mambo ya kijinga. Tunazungumzia system na sio mtu mmojammoja.
ilboru1995
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Shukrani Mkuu kwa uwezo wako mkubwa wa kujadiliana bila ya maudhi, Mimi naomba kuelimishwa kutoka kwako mambo yafuatayo:- 1. November Crusade ni nini? kilitokea lini na wapi? malengo yake yalikuwa ni nini? 2. Lord resistance army wapigania nini? kibwetere alikuwa na wasifu gani? kule Ireland wanapigania nini kwanini wanauana kwa mabomu? Da vinci code inaukweli wowote in relation to church movement? Mafia wanaconnection gani na kanisa katoliki?...wale waliokuwa wanaomba lift ya ndege pale airport walipata? wanatumia biblia?... hayo tu kwa sasa mkuu... zingine baadae ...
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mchangiaji mmoja aliandika kuwa ;Mkuu wa polisi ni Masawe mchaga chadema kafanya makusudi ili kutia doa serikali yeye huo mkuu wa polisi ndie alie amuru kuua na kuwafanyia jinai waislam kwa sababu kwanza yeye ni mpenzi wa chadema na pili ni ajent wa kanisa na marekani
ndipo tukafikia hapa, anyway tuyaache cause hayana mashiko.
hoja yangu ni kuwa serikali kupitia system inaweza kufanya mambo ya uzembe katika operation zake mara nyingi kama ilivyowahi kuripotiwa tena kwenye maswala yasio yakidini. lakini katika sakata la tanga jeshi la polisi lililenga kupambana na ugaidi tena unaohusisha kikundi maarufu cha alshabaab kinachojiimarisha kupitia uma wa waislamu, na sio uislamu kama mtoa uzi alivyoainisha. najua ni ngumu kutenganisha kati ya uislamu na waislamu lakini ni ukweli ulio wazi kuwa ugaidi wa alshabaab unatumia waumini wa kiislamu. kwa ugumu huu kunaweza kukatokea uzembe kwa namna moja ama nyingine. na bado tunahitaji kuisifu serikali na jeshi lake kwani limefanya kwa lengo jema. kama mfano wa dereva anayekwepa kugonga wengi baada ya breki kukata na kumfuata mmoja aliyekuwa peke yake na kumgonga. ni wakati sasa wa kutenganisha ushabiki wa kidini unaotupeleka katika machafuko ni hilo tu.
ilboru1995
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Ndugu zangu tafadhali msiwe wavivu kusoma:- Recent revelations published on the Press TV website, the New York Post and Veterans Today have changed history.
The story was simple, two American congressional representatives were allowed to read the Congressional 9/11 Investigation Report, this time including the areas President Bush had ordered removed. Both congressmen clearly state that the redacted pages of the report place full responsibility for the planning and execution of 9/11 on one or more foreign intelligence agencies, not "terrorists."
What is also clear is that President Bush's personal role in covering this up protected the real perpetrators of 9/11 and pushed the US into, not just two insane wars but draconian moves against America's government.
The NSA and the Bush 9/11 coup
Nine eleven was a coup against the constitution. Additional reports released this week make clear some of the reasons Bush lied to the American people, to congress, our military and our allies, "Obama's Director for National Intelligence, James Clapper, has declassified new documents that reveal how the NSA was first given the green light to start collecting bulk communication data in the hunt for Al-Qaeda terrorists after 9/11. President Barack Obama's administration has for the first time publicly confirmed ‘the existence of collection activities authorized by President George W. Bush,' such as bulk amounts of Internet and phone metadata, as part of the ‘Terrorist Surveillance Program' (TSP). The disclosures are part of Washington's campaign to justify the NSA's surveillance activities, following massive leaks to the media about the classified programs by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. Clapper explained on Saturday that President George W. Bush first authorized the spying in October 2001, just weeks after the September 11 attacks."
We can prove Bush was fully criminally culpable in covering the tracks of those responsible for 9/11.
AIPAC through Bandar and bush "under a bus"
More frighteningly, the articles published this week in Rupert Murdoch's New York Daily News, written by Hoover Institute fellow and AIPAC member, Paul Sperry, now not only blame Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia as the 9/11 mastermind but tie Bush (43) in as well.
In fact, the entire AIPAC apparatus, the largest lobbying organization in Washington, is currently engaged in a "full court press," to stop congress from pushing for the release of the real report. Is this because the real report accuses Israel, not Saudi Arabia, and AIPAC wants the Murdoch/Sperry story to stand?
Bin Laden myth "crashes down"
The real report, called "shocking" by the legislators, who have called for President Obama to declassify the entire report, proves that there was no al-Qaeda involvement, no reason to invade Afghanistan or Iraq and no reason to hunt CIA operative, Colonel Tim Osman, also known as "Osama bin Laden."
In fact, Ambassador Lee Wanta, a former White House Intelligence Chief and Inspector General of the Department of Defense under Reagan, has cited meetings between key government officials and "bin Laden" that he attended, meetings held in both Los Angeles and Washington DC while the US was supposedly hunting him.
From Wanta, who was present during these meetings, "In early 1990, bin Laden, suffering from advanced kidney disease, was flown to an American facility in the Persian Gulf. From there, bin Laden flew to Los Angeles, landing in the Ontario airport, met by Albert Hakim, representing President Bush (41), Ollie North (free on appeal bond), Admiral William Dickie, attorney Glenn Peglau and General Jack Singlaub, one of the founders of the CIA. Hakim was the personal representative of President Bush and in overall charge of the project. ‘Bud' McFarlane, an Iran-Contra figure pardoned by President Bush in 1992, was also a part of the group.
Bin Laden then left Los Angeles for Washington DC. There he stayed in the Mayflower Hotel. Meetings were held at the Metropolitan Club in Washington. Attorney Glenn Peglau stayed at the Metropolitan. While there, Peglau's room was broken into and "items" removed. At no point is there record, classified or public, that this ‘working group' was ever dissolved nor is there any record that Osama bin Laden's status as a security operative working for the US government ever ended. In 2001, Osama bin Laden's last public statement denied any involvement in the 9/11 attacks. There are no classified documents tying bin Laden to 9/11 or citing him to be a ‘rogue CIA operative.'"
Which 9/11 is real?
In 2007, the FBI flew a team to Bangkok to interview former Soviet nuclear intelligence specialist Dimitri Khalezov. Khalezov told the FBI that, in the morning of September 12, 2001, he attended a breakfast gathering with Mossad Operations Chief Mike Harari and his son along with other Israeli operatives.
Khalezov reported to the FBI that this gathering was to celebrate the 9/11 attacks, not as Netanyahu had said, as a "fortunate happenstance for Israel" but as a Mossad attack on the United States. At that meeting, Harari also claimed credit for a role in the Oklahoma City bombing. According to Khalezov, Harari was courting him to join their group for an upcoming operation, a bombing attack on Bali, scheduled for 2002.
On October 12, 2002, a huge explosive device devastated nearly a square mile killing 202 people. An Islamic group was blamed, just as with not just 9/11 but, initially, Oklahoma City as well.
Khalezov told FBI agents that Harari claimed nuclear weapons were used to bring down the twin towers on 9/11. Harari also said he got a "cruise type" missile, a Soviet "Granit" for the Pentagon attack, purchased through Victor Bout, the "Lord of War" played by Nicholas Cage in the film of the same name.
Bout, residing in Bangkok with Harari and Khalezov, was extradited to the United States based on a highly classified indictment accusing him of supplying the guided missile used to attack the Pentagon on 9/11. Bout was arrested in Bangkok in 2008, not long after the FBI visit. He was officially convicted of supplying arms to rebels in Colombia, an activity Bout had long been engaged in on behalf of the CIA, his arms dealing partners for many years.
Leaks
Thus far, the initial report to congress on the Bush falsification does not qualify as a leak. Only Bush stands accused, the 9/11 perpetrators are still safe, their identities still protected by security protocols maintained by President Obama, despite congressional demands.
"Claimed" leaks reported by Sperry in the Washington Post blame Bandar and Saudi Intelligence for 9/11. Sperry cites the CIA as a source but, quite suspiciously, seems to be attempting to deflect the possible fallout against Israel when or if then real report is made public. The Sperry story, coordinated with AIPAC's moves to quell congress's demand to declassify the report may well be an indication that Israeli intelligence, as Khalezov indicates, worked with Bush to plan and execute 9/11.
From the Press TV article: "This week, Congressional representatives Stephen Lynch (D-MA) and Walter Jones (R-NC) have officially requested a congressional resolution demanding President Obama declassify the heavily redacted Congressional Investigative Report on 9/11. The two representatives had just been given authority under penalty of ‘national security secrecy' to read the censored 28 pages of the 800-page report that had not been seen. What has been made clear is that President Bush was fully aware that neither Afghanistan nor Iraq were involved in 9/11 and that military action against those two nations was done to cover involvement of his administration in 9/11, involvement that included support from foreign intelligence agencies. The representatives, while reviewing the report, came to the portion titled ‘Specific Sources of Foreign Support.'
A 28-page section here had been ‘butchered' by the White House on the personal orders of President Bush. On the original report given to Congress, an estimated 5-10,000 words were omitted from this section with page after page of dotted lines replacing text."
This is only the most recent of revelations that AIPAC has managed to suppress through pressuring congress and its powerful assets in the press. What is increasingly clear is that many of AIPAC's allies in Washington had access to the non-redacted report. An entire administration, leaders in congress and the Pentagon, the CIA, NSA and a dozen other organizations, all knew what was in the congressional report. They all lied to the 9/11 Commission. They all ordered measures to suppress freedom at home and to butcher hundreds of thousands around the world, kidnap and torture thousand more, all based on lies.
Countries were virtually wiped off the map on a whim. Often we hear it asked, "How could thousands be involved in a conspiracy so heinous?" We now stand ready to answer. The time has come to ask.
The story was simple, two American congressional representatives were allowed to read the Congressional 9/11 Investigation Report, this time including the areas President Bush had ordered removed. Both congressmen clearly state that the redacted pages of the report place full responsibility for the planning and execution of 9/11 on one or more foreign intelligence agencies, not "terrorists."
What is also clear is that President Bush's personal role in covering this up protected the real perpetrators of 9/11 and pushed the US into, not just two insane wars but draconian moves against America's government.
The NSA and the Bush 9/11 coup
Nine eleven was a coup against the constitution. Additional reports released this week make clear some of the reasons Bush lied to the American people, to congress, our military and our allies, "Obama's Director for National Intelligence, James Clapper, has declassified new documents that reveal how the NSA was first given the green light to start collecting bulk communication data in the hunt for Al-Qaeda terrorists after 9/11. President Barack Obama's administration has for the first time publicly confirmed ‘the existence of collection activities authorized by President George W. Bush,' such as bulk amounts of Internet and phone metadata, as part of the ‘Terrorist Surveillance Program' (TSP). The disclosures are part of Washington's campaign to justify the NSA's surveillance activities, following massive leaks to the media about the classified programs by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. Clapper explained on Saturday that President George W. Bush first authorized the spying in October 2001, just weeks after the September 11 attacks."
We can prove Bush was fully criminally culpable in covering the tracks of those responsible for 9/11.
AIPAC through Bandar and bush "under a bus"
More frighteningly, the articles published this week in Rupert Murdoch's New York Daily News, written by Hoover Institute fellow and AIPAC member, Paul Sperry, now not only blame Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia as the 9/11 mastermind but tie Bush (43) in as well.
In fact, the entire AIPAC apparatus, the largest lobbying organization in Washington, is currently engaged in a "full court press," to stop congress from pushing for the release of the real report. Is this because the real report accuses Israel, not Saudi Arabia, and AIPAC wants the Murdoch/Sperry story to stand?
Bin Laden myth "crashes down"
The real report, called "shocking" by the legislators, who have called for President Obama to declassify the entire report, proves that there was no al-Qaeda involvement, no reason to invade Afghanistan or Iraq and no reason to hunt CIA operative, Colonel Tim Osman, also known as "Osama bin Laden."
In fact, Ambassador Lee Wanta, a former White House Intelligence Chief and Inspector General of the Department of Defense under Reagan, has cited meetings between key government officials and "bin Laden" that he attended, meetings held in both Los Angeles and Washington DC while the US was supposedly hunting him.
From Wanta, who was present during these meetings, "In early 1990, bin Laden, suffering from advanced kidney disease, was flown to an American facility in the Persian Gulf. From there, bin Laden flew to Los Angeles, landing in the Ontario airport, met by Albert Hakim, representing President Bush (41), Ollie North (free on appeal bond), Admiral William Dickie, attorney Glenn Peglau and General Jack Singlaub, one of the founders of the CIA. Hakim was the personal representative of President Bush and in overall charge of the project. ‘Bud' McFarlane, an Iran-Contra figure pardoned by President Bush in 1992, was also a part of the group.
Bin Laden then left Los Angeles for Washington DC. There he stayed in the Mayflower Hotel. Meetings were held at the Metropolitan Club in Washington. Attorney Glenn Peglau stayed at the Metropolitan. While there, Peglau's room was broken into and "items" removed. At no point is there record, classified or public, that this ‘working group' was ever dissolved nor is there any record that Osama bin Laden's status as a security operative working for the US government ever ended. In 2001, Osama bin Laden's last public statement denied any involvement in the 9/11 attacks. There are no classified documents tying bin Laden to 9/11 or citing him to be a ‘rogue CIA operative.'"
Which 9/11 is real?
In 2007, the FBI flew a team to Bangkok to interview former Soviet nuclear intelligence specialist Dimitri Khalezov. Khalezov told the FBI that, in the morning of September 12, 2001, he attended a breakfast gathering with Mossad Operations Chief Mike Harari and his son along with other Israeli operatives.
Khalezov reported to the FBI that this gathering was to celebrate the 9/11 attacks, not as Netanyahu had said, as a "fortunate happenstance for Israel" but as a Mossad attack on the United States. At that meeting, Harari also claimed credit for a role in the Oklahoma City bombing. According to Khalezov, Harari was courting him to join their group for an upcoming operation, a bombing attack on Bali, scheduled for 2002.
On October 12, 2002, a huge explosive device devastated nearly a square mile killing 202 people. An Islamic group was blamed, just as with not just 9/11 but, initially, Oklahoma City as well.
Khalezov told FBI agents that Harari claimed nuclear weapons were used to bring down the twin towers on 9/11. Harari also said he got a "cruise type" missile, a Soviet "Granit" for the Pentagon attack, purchased through Victor Bout, the "Lord of War" played by Nicholas Cage in the film of the same name.
Bout, residing in Bangkok with Harari and Khalezov, was extradited to the United States based on a highly classified indictment accusing him of supplying the guided missile used to attack the Pentagon on 9/11. Bout was arrested in Bangkok in 2008, not long after the FBI visit. He was officially convicted of supplying arms to rebels in Colombia, an activity Bout had long been engaged in on behalf of the CIA, his arms dealing partners for many years.
Leaks
Thus far, the initial report to congress on the Bush falsification does not qualify as a leak. Only Bush stands accused, the 9/11 perpetrators are still safe, their identities still protected by security protocols maintained by President Obama, despite congressional demands.
"Claimed" leaks reported by Sperry in the Washington Post blame Bandar and Saudi Intelligence for 9/11. Sperry cites the CIA as a source but, quite suspiciously, seems to be attempting to deflect the possible fallout against Israel when or if then real report is made public. The Sperry story, coordinated with AIPAC's moves to quell congress's demand to declassify the report may well be an indication that Israeli intelligence, as Khalezov indicates, worked with Bush to plan and execute 9/11.
From the Press TV article: "This week, Congressional representatives Stephen Lynch (D-MA) and Walter Jones (R-NC) have officially requested a congressional resolution demanding President Obama declassify the heavily redacted Congressional Investigative Report on 9/11. The two representatives had just been given authority under penalty of ‘national security secrecy' to read the censored 28 pages of the 800-page report that had not been seen. What has been made clear is that President Bush was fully aware that neither Afghanistan nor Iraq were involved in 9/11 and that military action against those two nations was done to cover involvement of his administration in 9/11, involvement that included support from foreign intelligence agencies. The representatives, while reviewing the report, came to the portion titled ‘Specific Sources of Foreign Support.'
A 28-page section here had been ‘butchered' by the White House on the personal orders of President Bush. On the original report given to Congress, an estimated 5-10,000 words were omitted from this section with page after page of dotted lines replacing text."
This is only the most recent of revelations that AIPAC has managed to suppress through pressuring congress and its powerful assets in the press. What is increasingly clear is that many of AIPAC's allies in Washington had access to the non-redacted report. An entire administration, leaders in congress and the Pentagon, the CIA, NSA and a dozen other organizations, all knew what was in the congressional report. They all lied to the 9/11 Commission. They all ordered measures to suppress freedom at home and to butcher hundreds of thousands around the world, kidnap and torture thousand more, all based on lies.
Countries were virtually wiped off the map on a whim. Often we hear it asked, "How could thousands be involved in a conspiracy so heinous?" We now stand ready to answer. The time has come to ask.
2013
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kila mwaka serikali ya marekani inaadhimisha tukio la kigaidi la september eleven, hatujasikia hayo usemayo. ni kawaida siku zote baadhi ya watu kusikiliza na kuziamini conspiracy theories hata zile za u-freemanson, Nwo, zinazosema obama sio mmarekani, papa john paul(aliyefariki), bush anti-christ na jina lake ni 666, ni mpinga kristo hasingekufa, na zinazotolewa na watu maarufu akiwemo mwingereza David Icke, zeitgeist, thrive na wengineo wengi sana.
better find which source is more credible to you
kahtaan
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Binaadamu mwenye kutumia akili huwa haangali nini wengi wanafanya!
Bali huangalia UKWELI WA MAMBO!
Matukio mangapi ambayo mataifa yana azimisha kila mwaka ambayo yanapewa majina mazuri lkn UHALISIA WAKE SIO KABISA HUO!
Na unaposema " better find which source is more credible to you"!!
Vipi mtu mwenye busara aamue yeye mwenyewe kuchagua credible sources azitakazo yeye?? Na asijali zile zinazokubalika kimataifa??
Wewe vipi unaweza ku crisis Source yyt wakati hujatuonyesha sababu za kuzifanya hizo source not credible enough? ?
Au ni zile chuki zako za kigalatia zimekufunga macho mpaka sources zozote zenye Uhusiano wwt na Muslim zinakuwa hazifa?
Akili za namna hii huwa zina tabia ya kumuathiri mwenyenazo tu! Na si mwingine.
crabat
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Sio kweli kwamba kule kilindi Tanga kulikua au kuna al shabab. Ukitaka kujua anza kutafuta nini ilikua sababu ya operation ile hatamu.
Chanzo cha vurugu ni ugomvi wa mgambo na wakulima na wafanya biashara wa hiliki.mgambo walikua wanalazimisha kwa kutumia nguvu ulipaji wa kodi haramu kwa mazao.na inaonekana ni mazoea yao kutumia mwanya wa kuvaa magwanda yao na kuwaonea raia wasi na hatia. Wananchi kwa pamoja walikataa uonevu ule hali iliyopelekea mapambano na kusababisha kifo cha mgambo mmoja na wananchi kadhaa kujeruhiwa.
Tukio lile likafika polisi nao badala ya kufanya uchunguzi wa tukio walikwenda ki operation na ilawa ni hali ya mapambano baina yao na raia watu wengi wakajeruhiwa na akiwamo polisi.
Polisi wakaongezewa nguvu na ndipo walipo fanya collective punishment. Na raia wakajificha kwenye misikiti lakini hio haikua dawa kijiji kizima kilikua katika kushambuliwa wanawake wakakimbia mapolisi wakaacha watoto wao. Wanaume wengi wakakimbilia maporini.
Kutokana na uhalifu ulofanyika kuwa mkubwa ndio kama kawaida afande masawe akatangaza kuwa ilikuwa operation ya kupigana na alshabab.
Yote kujaribu ku cover up uhalifu waliowafanyia raia.
Wakati yeye akitangaza anapambana na alshabab mkuu wa mkoa bibi chiku anasema hakuna gaidi ni wavunja sheria tu.
Hivyo tukirudi kwenye suala la mada kuu jibu ni kuwa vita ya ugaidi inatumiwa kama mwanya wa kuubamiza uislam. Waloathirika ni waislam .misikiti yao ilivamia na maimam ndio walokamatwa.
Kutoka vurugu za kuuza hiliki mpaka ikageuzwa kuwa ugaidi...
Eiyer
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Mbona sikioni ulichokijibu?
Mbona sijaleta mzaha kwenye hili jambo?
Nadhani nyie ambao mnaleta madai bila ya ushahidi ndio mnaoleta mzaha na amani hii tuliyonayo
Hebu kuweni serious
Majibu yako wapi?
kahtaan
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- Jul 11, 2009
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We kilaza ni janga kubwa mno!
Unauliza ushahidi!!?
We kweli umesoma chanzo cha huu uzi!?
Au nyie ndio wale mnaodandia treni kwa mbele!
Eiyer
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Nyie watu mnachekesha sana
Mmekuja JF kuanzisha mada ya madai ya kuvurugwa na kuonewa na mfumo wa kufikirika
Mnadaiwa ushahidi mnasema tuende book shop
Hapa ni book shop?
Mbona mmekuja kuanzisha mada hapa JF?
Kwanini msiende hukohuko mnakodai kuna ushahidi mkaanzishe madai yenu?
Ok,let us assume kwamba kuna ushahidi kwenye hicho kitabu chenu mnachodai kipi bookshop
Mmekisoma?
Kama mmekisoma ni kitu gani kigumu kwenu kuuweka huo ushahidi hapa?
Au sio ushahidi ni maoni yamtu tu?
Maana huenda mnakataa kutuambia hicho kitabu kimeandikwa nini kwa sababu mnajua kabisa ni porojo tu na hakuna ushahidi wowote
Kama ni suala la kufunguka akili nimeshafunguka akili zamani sana
Najua nyie hamuitaji amani
Kila mahali palipotulia mnataka kupavuruga
Mnalazimisha kwa hoja za uongo mambo ya uongo huku shabaha yenu ikiwa ni kutaka kila mtu afuate imani yenu
Mna hatari sana nyie!!
Eiyer
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Sawa mimi kilaza
Lakini chanzo cha hii habari huenda ni ndoto maana haya ni maandishi ya mtu yasiyokuwa na ushahidi wowote ule
Hebu niambie wewe nini chanzo cha hii hadithi?
zomba
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