Makampuni yanayohudumia ujenzi wa SGR Bongo yanapigwa mnada, makampuni ya Kenya fursa ndio hiyo

[Geza Ulole]

Let me get this right.

a) They said they are building with their own tax payer money, only for their government to rush for a commercial loan from standard chartered bank of $1.4 billion.

b) The first phase was to start working by november last year only to discover that the project (200km) is at 72% completion and they needed the loan to finish the first phase and to start on the second phase.

c) Their suppliers are being auctioned due to financial distress which might push the deadline further.

d) They have spent $1.2 billion(partially debt and tax payer money) and borrowed another 1.4 billion for two phases which will cover 500 km. That makes a total of $2.6 billion, used on a class 2 railway without land compensation or legal cases while kenya spent $3.0 billion to make the first phase (485 km) of a class 1 railway, with world standard train stations, a lot of court battles with environmentalists and conservationists and billions in land compensation. Which one sounds cheaper?

Conclusion: They do not think, they do things out of envy and jealousy without forethought (Impulsive). This will definitely become another version of the ethiopian sgr.

Kunyaland's first class SGR

 

[Geza Ulole]

The members of the Northern Corridor Integration Project (NCIP) have agreed to build all of their railways to the Chinese National Railway Class 1 standard. The Central Corridor / Dar es Salaam-Isaka-Kigali/Keza-Musongati Railway Project countries (Tanzania, Rwanda, and Burundi) have selected the Chinese Class 2 standard and/or the American Railway Engineering and Maintenance-of-Way Association standard.[3]

Another $1 bln for SGR Tanzania is set aside while procurement for 3rd phase construction is underway!

 

[Kevin85ify]

Another $1 bln for SGR Tanzania is set aside while procurement for 3rd phase construction is underway!

Why do you lie a lot? The GoT has just requested for a $1.4 billion loan from standard chartered for finish first phase and to start on the second phase while the third phase is a still proposed not under construction. With the delays in construction your phase 1 and 2 costs might spiral out of control.

 

[Tony254]

Sasa makampuni ya Kenya yataenda TZ kufanya nini wakati SGR ya Bongo ni ya stima (umeme)?

Haha hata nyinyi bongo hutumia neno "stima"?

 

[Kevin85ify]

Kunyaland's first class SGR

It is called chinese class 1. Here learn more about that. News is you are a 40 year old troll, but i can affirm due to your reasoning ability. Reasoning is not one of our strengths.

 

[Geza Ulole]

It is called chinese class 1. Here learn more about that. News is you are a 40 year old troll, but i can affirm due to your reasoning ability. Reasoning is not one of our strengths.

I know and as u see Chinese class one is poor quality! No way to be compared to AREMA!

 

[Tony254]

I know and as u see Chinese class one is poor quality! No way to be compared to AREMA!

Kwa hivyo leo umekubali yenu ni class 2? Hahaha

 

[Geza Ulole]

Kwa hivyo leo umekubali yenu ni class 2? Hahaha

ours is AREMA class!

 

[Latrice]

Haha hata nyinyi bongo hutumia neno "stima"?

We don't use it, nimelitumia ili wakenya muelewe swali langu.

 

[Kevin85ify]

Mimi ni mtanzania, sidhani kama wamekuelewa , haya madeni ya hovyo itachukua karne nzima na kulipwa na vitukuuu

I am not against borrowing, but the terms of the debt determine a lot. Kenya went for a mixture of concessional loans and grants from china which are cheaper to repay. Tanzania has gone for a commercial loan which will be more expensive to repay and might carry even shorter repayment periods which might put a lot of pressure on the already high deficit budget.

 

[Kevin85ify]

ours is AREMA class!

ARema is the same as chinese class 2, read the specifications that is why they put "and/ or" when talking about both classes.

 

[Kevin85ify]

I know and as u see Chinese class one is poor quality! No way to be compared to AREMA!

Argumentum ad ignorantiam

 

[Kevin85ify]

ours is AREMA class!

10. What is the difference between AREMA (American Railway Engineering and Maintenance-of-Way Association) and China standards?
Tue, 03/20/2018 - 06:35 -- sgradmin
i) The difference is in the structure gauge (height and width of the railway system), the design of the embankment, the formation width and specifications of materials, methodology of construction among others.
ii) Use of Chinese standards results in infrastructure that is more durable, more robust and that has higher safety margin.
iii) Over the last 30 years, China has built more railways than the rest of the world combined. Therefore, Chinese railway technology is proven in the industry.

 

[Tony254]

ours is AREMA class!

Which is lower quality

 

[Geza Ulole]

Which is lower quality

Tafuta cha kufanya mshikaji una-bore!
Here is ur high standard chinese first class SGR in Kunyaland!

See their SGR back home, which class should this 👇 be? i guess SGR class II!😀😀😀

 

[Kevin85ify]

Tafuta cha kufanya mshikaji una-bore!
Here is ur high standard chinese first class SGR in Kunyaland!

See their SGR back home, which class should this 👇 be? i guess SGR class II!😀😀😀

What you are showing is a high speed railway track not designed for cargo only passengers, that is very different from what most countries in the world have. Please read do not try to lie to people.Those were constructed in the last 9 years from 2011, but the backbone of chinese railway is class 1 standard transporting about 4 billion tonnes of cargo a year. Know the difference.

 

[nomasana]

If these bozos don't pay Stan chart back, god help anything they own outside of their borders

Already Wameshindwa na mkulima that's why bombardier can't fly nowhere.

 

[mwaswast]

Tafuta cha kufanya mshikaji una-bore!
Here is ur high standard chinese first class SGR in Kunyaland!

See their SGR back home, which class should this 👇 be? i guess SGR class II!😀😀😀

😂😂😂😂😂 Tulia mkuu dawa ingie

 

[Tony254]

If these bozos don't pay Stan chart back, god help anything they own outside of their borders

Already Wameshindwa na mkulima that's why bombardier can't fly nowhere.

Borrowing from a commercial bank to build railway is almost unheard of. Commercial banks are there to make profits. I don't know who advises these ignorant neighbours of ours.

 

[Lwiva]

It is called chinese class 1. Here learn more about that. News is you are a 40 year old troll, but i can affirm due to your reasoning ability. Reasoning is not one of our strengths.

Lifespan ya sgr ya Kenya ni 12yrs tu baada ya hapo inageuka kuwa chuma chakavu

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