Makampuni yanayohudumia ujenzi wa SGR Bongo yanapigwa mnada, makampuni ya Kenya fursa ndio hiyo

Makampuni yanayohudumia ujenzi wa SGR Bongo yanapigwa mnada, makampuni ya Kenya fursa ndio hiyo

Kevin85ify said:
10. What is the difference between AREMA (American Railway Engineering and Maintenance-of-Way Association) and China standards?
Tue, 03/20/2018 - 06:35 -- sgradmin
i) The difference is in the structure gauge (height and width of the railway system), the design of the embankment, the formation width and specifications of materials, methodology of construction among others.
ii) Use of Chinese standards results in infrastructure that is more durable, more robust and that has higher safety margin.
iii) Over the last 30 years, China has built more railways than the rest of the world combined. Therefore, Chinese railway technology is proven in the industry.
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how on earth can this be debatable? China to build more railways in China does not mean your railway being built by any Chinese automatically your abiding with Chinese national railway pride, you must be dumbest looser to think this sounds even liquid.

Rubbish 🗑️👇👇👇

) Over the last 30 years, China has built more railways than the rest of the world combined. Therefore, Chinese railway technology is proven in the industry.
 
Tony254 said:
It is a white elephant. Maybe even a white giraffe. There is no business in the hinterland
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LOL white elephant more than this? 😜😜😜😜
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Kevin85ify said:
Ha hahaahahahahaha,
a) You always base your arguments on false information.
b) Tz sgr is 17 million tonnes a year, and this is confirmed only for phase 1. Refer to documents from your own contractor.
c) Not carrying local cargo is idiotic and makes no economic sense, it makes local trade and manufacturing more costly so you reduce costs for burundi and rwanda but lock out your own traders from the cost savings? Burundi and rwanda combined will not be able to fill up all 17 million tonnes a year meaning your railway will never ever generate significant revenues.
d) Kenyan sgr is connected to the special economic zones which means industries like toyota, dominion coffee that are aiming to set up shop and manufacture for africa from kenya will use it for exports thus more money from cargo.
e) ethiopia does not have transmission problems, they have a problem of expertise in management of an electric line, which is more expensive to maintain. Training and education determine how such an organization is run.
f) Tanzania does not generate enough electricity to power homes and industries, and any new stations will take at least two years to complete.
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😜😜😜😜😜😜 Your sgr is connected to Toyota? What do you mean?

Toyota as a car or Toyota as a plant? 😜😜😜😜😜 So the Toyota garage makes any sense to turnover in sgr? And you are the national educated goon 🤔
 
Kevin85ify said:
Do not confuse trains with the track, diesel trains are 20% more expensive to maintain than electric trains, but electrified tracks are more expensive to maintain than non electrified tracks. Think monkey think.
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Stop spewing gibberish you goon
We don't have electrified tracks actually

Our sgr is a versatile model that could go with both electricity and diesel engines

Electricity in our sgr is through overhead poles so I don't even understand what type of electrified tracks you are referring to! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
Naton Jr said:
😜😜😜😜😜😜 Your sgr is connected to Toyota? What do you mean?

Toyota as a car or Toyota as a plant? 😜😜😜😜😜 So the Toyota garage makes any sense to turnover in sgr? And you are the national educated goon 🤔
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I understand english is not your strength but try to be less embarrassing. Read and understand my comments. Do not be blinded by foolish nationalism.
 
Kevin85ify said:
Also remember ethiopia generates 4,600 MW of electricity yet they are having problems powering their electric trains due to power outages. Tanzania produces about 1600 MW , don't you see a problem coming?
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Power outage mayb caused by several factors, and having 16hundreds megawatts is not a life sentence ,We are currently working so hard to add more megawatts from various sources and up to Sept kenyerezi power plant will add 180MW into the national grid, saying so the issue is stability ,Electric train doesn't need 1000MW to operate bro

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Naton Jr said:
LOL white elephant more than this? 😜😜😜😜View attachment 1387583
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You do realize there is an industrial park coming up near there right? You also do know there is an Internal container depot near there? You do realize that that area will become the heart on kenya's industrialization. I know you lack the brain power to process this information but try and connect the dots between what I told you and the sgr.
 
tuusan said:
Power outage mayb caused by several factors, and having 16hundreds megawatts is not a life sentence ,We are currently working so hard to add more megawatts from various sources and up to Sept kenyerezi power plant will add 180MW into the national grid, saying so the issue is stability ,Electric train doesn't need 1000MW to operate bro

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Will you be running one electric train? ethiopia has a dedicated 160MW line for their light rail(32 Km) only, what about long distance passenger and cargo trains.
 
Naton Jr said:
Stop spewing gibberish you goon
We don't have electrified tracks actually

Our sgr is a versatile model that could go with both electricity and diesel engines

Electricity in our sgr is through overhead poles so I don't even understand what type of electrified tracks you are referring to! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Oh so now you will go to diesel too!!!!! How about that, after making fun of kenyan DMU you go back to diesel? Wonders never cease to end.
 
These are questions you should ask your government because in Kenya we do that all the time, that is why there is always criticism and praise in equal measure. That is why GoK is the most open government in the region
 
Mkikuyu- Akili timamu said:
Kevin85ify
You are falling into the logical trap of this vs that which obviously you will side with kenya.
The Point is this:
AREMA is CHEAPER but Has higher Overal Life cycle Maintenance Cost
Chinese Class1 is EXPENSIVE- you pay upfront for its "cheaper" Life cycle maitenance cost.
It's simply an OPEX vs CAPEX decision,
Kenya choze capex but due to KE sgr being diesel, the opex is also very bad (40% bad)
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This guy yupo hadi kwenye accounts za yepi merkez and TRC huko YouTube, kazi yake ni kudiscredit sgr yetu.

Wacha atambe, ikianza kazi, it will be our turn.

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Oii said:
This guy yupo hadi kwenye accounts za yepi merkez and TRC huko YouTube, kazi yake ni kudiscredit sgr yetu.

Wacha atambe, ikianza kazi, it will be our turn.

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Oii said:
This guy yupo hadi kwenye accounts za yepi merkez and TRC huko YouTube, kazi yake ni kudiscredit sgr yetu.

Wacha atambe, ikianza kazi, it will be our turn.

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When will it start working? It is already 4 months late and your suppliers are being auctioned which will delay it further.
 
Mkikuyu- Akili timamu said:
Kevin85ify
You are falling into the logical trap of this vs that which obviously you will side with kenya.
The Point is this:
AREMA is CHEAPER but Has higher Overal Life cycle Maintenance Cost
Chinese Class1 is EXPENSIVE- you pay upfront for its "cheaper" Life cycle maitenance cost.
It's simply an OPEX vs CAPEX decision,
Kenya choze capex but due to KE sgr being diesel, the opex is also very bad (40% bad)
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That is called name dropping.
 
Kevin85ify said:
These are questions you should ask your government because in Kenya we do that all the time, that is why there is always criticism and praise in equal measure. That is why GoK is the most open government in the region
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If it is most open gvt, why kill msando, Jacob juma, kenei, etc.
Kujifanya perfect whilst its the worst

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Kevin85ify said:
Our sgr was delivered 2 months early for the first phase (485 km), phase 2A (126 km) was on time and on budget. Phase 2B is under negotiation.
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Nah man, I read somewhere nimesahau, but it was late. How about you bring me a reliable source which says it was 2 months earlier.
Bcoz I really can't trust anything you say.

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