Mdahalo Kudai Katiba Mpya unapogeuzwa Ugaidi

LESIRIAMU · Jul 23, 2021

Hii issue ni kuziba watu macho, waache know ujadili makato ya kwenye miamala wajadili issue ya Mh. Mbowe na katiba mpya.
Turudi kwenye mada ya miamala, hii nchi huongozwa na matukio.
Tusisahau watu ninwale wale, utawala ni ule ule. Tusitegemee mapya kwa system ya Siro, au TISS kikombe kipya mvinyo wa zamani

comte · Jul 23, 2021

brazaj said:
Nchi zetu za Afrika nani katuroga sisi? Hivi tunaweza je kufika huku?

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Barikiwa sana Mh. Tundu Antiphas Lissu. Mshangao wako ndiyo ulio mshangao wetu na pia kwa kila mpenda haki.

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Barikiwa sana beberu, kwa maana makwetu kusikokuwa na mihimili ya uongozi iliyo huru, utamu wa madaraka ukishakolea huwa tunaupiga mwingi kweli kweli kwa maana yake halisi:

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Enyi Mama Samia, Kamanda Sirro na wote mlio na dhamana, iepusheni nchi hii na aibu hii isiyokuwa na kifani!

"Hivi ni kweli kuwa njia hii mliyoichagua haiwatieni hata hofu tu kwa mola wenu?"

Misahafu inasema "mpende jirani yako kama nafsi yako." Bado haiwapi hata angalizo kidogo kutambua kuwa njia mliyoichagua siyo?

Msisahau kuwa mna dhamana ya kuongoza na si kutawala.

Source: Do arrests show Tanzania backsliding on reform commitments? - Democracy Digest

Ugaidi ni mfumo wa kulenga mabadiliko ya kisiasa kwa kutisha watu kwa njia ya vurugu au mauaji.

fazili · Jul 23, 2021

Kalamu1 said:
There are lots of things happening that seem to be rather odd and difficult to comprehend.

For instance, there is this statement attributed to Tundu Lissu, that goes:

"So, organizing a forum for constitutional reform is terrorism in the new Tanzania under Samia Suluh Hassan and her Police Force?"

Then it surprisingly goes on in apparent praise of the former dictator: "Even John Pombe Magufuli, her odious predecessor didn't dare to go that far" (!)

The dictator attempted to eliminate Tundu Lissu, and would probably have done the same to Freeman Mbowe at an opportune moment, how can that person be any better?

Has Tundu Lissu forgotten what happened to him and others under John Pombe Magufuli?

You don’t seem to understand or support what opposition leaders stand for. We support the whole move aiming at new constitution and not correctness of a few phrases given by our leaders.

brazaj · Jul 23, 2021

barafuyamoto said:
Polisi wameshatolea maelezo, katumia mwanya huu akijua anaenda shikiliwa.

kama mmeamua kupanua goli kivyenu ila polisi ndio wameshasema.

Huo ni mtazamo wako ulio duni kabisa.

Usituongelee tunaosimama na Lissu, Mbowe na wapenda haki wote tunaokubaliana naye.

brazaj · Jul 23, 2021

LESIRIAMU said:
Hii issue ni kuziba watu macho, waache know ujadili makato ya kwenye miamala wajadili issue ya Mh. Mbowe na katiba mpya.
Turudi kwenye mada ya miamala, hii nchi huongozwa na matukio.
Tusisahau watu ninwale wale, utawala ni ule ule. Tusitegemee mapya kwa system ya Siro, au TISS kikombe kipya mvinyo wa zamani

Miamala tulishamaliza. Hiyo si hatutumii tena? Au?

barafuyamoto · Jul 23, 2021

brazaj said:
Huo ni mtazamo wako ulio duni kabisa.

Usituongelee tunaosimama na Lissu, Mbowe na wapenda haki wote tunaokubaliana naye.

Kwani nimekuzuia kuamini hivyo? Nimekueleza tu hapo waliyosema polisi wewe gandana na mawazo yako pia kama mie nilivyogandana na mawazo yangu

Kitoabu · Jul 23, 2021

Kwani si tulikubaliana kumnyoa kama tulivyo mnyoa mwenda zake? Sasa hizo nyembe tumeziweka wapi?

brazaj · Jul 23, 2021

Ahmad Abdurahman said:
Siasa za kishamba za Mbowe zimepitwa na wakati. Awekwe jela kwanza atulie maana Jiwe alimtimua nchini alivoona kibiko yake kafa ndo karudi kwa kasi kubwa. Inabidi ashtakiwe kwa ugaidi. Huo ni ukaidi na ugaidi.

Wengine tunaona siasa za Mbowe ni za haki na usawa. Kinachotokea tulikitegemea:

Kudai haki hakuwezi kuwa bila gharama

Kuna thwawabu kubwa kwa wote wasimamao kuipigania haki kwa ajili ya wote. Kwa maana njia hiyo si kila mtu anaweza kuipita. Njia hii si lazima kwa kila mtu kuipita. Waipitao njia hii ni wale tu walio na wito kamili. Kama ile iendayo uzimani, ina vikwazo vingi. Kipi ambacho kamanda Mbowe...

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Kuwekwa ndani bila kosa? Hilo mbona dogo? Watuite wote wakatuweke ndani. Waliwekwa ndani kina Paulo na Sila sembuse sisi?

Zaidi sana huna hoja zako ila ushamba uliopitiliza.

Hadi hapo unasema je?

brazaj · Jul 23, 2021

barafuyamoto said:
Kwani nimekuzuia kuamini hivyo? Nimekueleza tu hapo waliyosema polisi wewe gandana na mawazo yako pia kama mie nilivyogandana na mawazo yangu

Maridadi kuwa tumekutana kwenye uwanja tambarare hivyo baki na m@vi yako.

brazaj · Jul 23, 2021

Interested Observer said:
JPM alijua kazi ni kweli, aliona mbali ni kweli, alikuwa na development strategy imara kweli. Hatubishani hapo.

JPM alikuwa katili inawezekana, hasa tukio la Lisu, kweli lilibadirisha mawazo ya wengi na mitazamo ya wengi kuhusu JPM.

Mtu aliyekuwa na mtazamo mzuri kama yeye na hasa kwenye maendeleo kwa nini alkuwa katili? Mind boggling!

JPM huyu huyu mwenye faili mirembe? -- in Diallo's dismay?

You must be kidding!

Tumbiliwaulaya · Jul 23, 2021

brazaj said:
Nchi zetu za Afrika nani katuroga sisi? Hivi tunaweza je kufika huku?

View attachment 1864057

Barikiwa sana Mh. Tundu Antiphas Lissu. Mshangao wako ndiyo ulio mshangao wetu na pia kwa kila mpenda haki.

View attachment 1863998

Barikiwa sana beberu, kwa maana makwetu kusikokuwa na mihimili ya uongozi iliyo huru, utamu wa madaraka ukishakolea huwa tunaupiga mwingi kweli kweli kwa maana yake halisi:

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Enyi Mama Samia, Kamanda Sirro na wote mlio na dhamana, iepusheni nchi hii na aibu hii isiyokuwa na kifani!

"Hivi ni kweli kuwa njia hii mliyoichagua haiwatieni hata hofu tu kwa mola wenu?"

Misahafu inasema "mpende jirani yako kama nafsi yako." Bado haiwapi hata angalizo kidogo kutambua kuwa njia mliyoichagua siyo?

Msisahau kuwa mna dhamana ya kuongoza na si kutawala.

Source: Do arrests show Tanzania backsliding on reform commitments? - Democracy Digest

Naipokea taarifa hii kwa masikitiko makubwa,masikini nchi yangu!

brazaj · Jul 23, 2021

zandrano said:
Hata kwa DC Sabaya wapo walio amini na wapo ambao hawakuamini lkn leo hii yupo mbele ya mahakama. Mahakama ndio Jukumu lake kuamua kama Mbowe na wenzake ni Magaidi au la.

tuache sheria ifanye kazi yake. Mbowe na wenzake sio Malaika, ni binaadamu kama walivyo binaadamu wengine, mambo yake mengine ya siri hatuyajui.

Mahakama hizi hizi zinazofanya kazi kukiwa na mhimili uliyojichimbia zaidi kuliko mingine?

Na polisi hawa hawa wanao officiate mechi ya mpira yenye umati wa watu uliofurika kuliko maelezo, ila wengine wasijumuike kwa sababu kuna Corona?

Na bunge hili hili ambalo linajishangaa kwa kupitisha sheria hizo hizo lenyewe?

Yaani kwenye mazingira haya:

Labda kama ndiyo umewasili sasa hivi kutokea sayari nyingine.

ostrichegg · Jul 23, 2021

barafuyamoto said:
Polisi wameshatolea maelezo, katumia mwanya huu akijua anaenda shikiliwa.

kama mmeamua kupanua goli kivyenu ila polisi ndio wameshasema.

Polisi hawa si ndio walewale waliomua Aquilina, Mwangosi ..........? Siro, Kakwale si ndio wale wale wanaoshindana kulinda kuficha maovu yao?

ostrichegg · Jul 23, 2021

brazaj said:
Mahakama hizi hizi zinazofanya kazi kukiwa na mhimili uliyojichimbia zaidi kuliko mingine?

Na polisi hawa hawa wanao officiate mechi ya mpira yenye umati wa watu uliofurika kuliko maelezo, ila wengine wasijumuike kwa sababu kuna Corona?

Na bunge hili hili ambalo linajishangaa kwa kupitisha sheria hizo hizo lenyewe?

Yaani kwenye mazingira haya:

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Labda kama ndiyo umewasili sasa hivi kutokea sayari nyingine.

brazaj · Jul 23, 2021

zandrano said:
kumbe alianzisha harakati za katiba mpya kwa maksudi tu ili ikitokea anakamatwa na polisi basi iwe rahisi kutuhadaa na kuuhadaa ulimwengu eti kuwa kakamatwa kwa kudai katiba mpya!! aisee!!! Mbowe na kundi lake ni zaidi ya majambazi.

Tunamuomba Msajili wa Vyama akichunguze kwa makini hiki chama cha Chadema inaonekana kuna mtandao mkubwa wa kigaidi/kihalifu/kijambazi nchi nzima, Jeshi letu la Polisi wafanye uchunguzi kwa umakini mkubwa ili kubaini mtandao wote ili washughulikiwe kikamilifu kabla hawaja sababisha madhara kwa wananchi.

Amani ya Tanzania ni Muhimu zaidi kuliko chama cha kigaidi.

Mungu ibariki Tanzania.

Harakati za katiba zimekuwapo kabla ya JK rasimu ya katiba ya Warioba ni mwendelezo wake.

Utopolo wako peleka buseresere. Yuko kwa amani katika mapumziko atakuelewa.

Interested Observer · Jul 23, 2021

brazaj said:
JPM huyu huyu mwenye faili mirembe? -- in Diallo's dismay?

You must be kidding!

I swear!!!
Ali Hassan Mwinyi alikiri kuwa kwa miaka mitano mambo aliyoyafanya JPM Yeye Mwinyi, Mkapa na JK hawajawahi kufanya. That is fact. Think of these: Infrastructure, including Stigler, SGR, Roads, REA. Vile vile fiscal discipline,
Civil discipline- drug addicts walipungua, mules walipungua, at least hong kong ilikuwa inashikilia 400 tanzania citizens kwa drug trafficking ilianza kupumua.

kuhusu ukatili tunalaani, huyu hakuwa kichaa

Rasterman · Jul 23, 2021

brazaj said:
Nchi zetu za Afrika nani katuroga sisi? Hivi tunaweza je kufika huku?

View attachment 1864057

Barikiwa sana Mh. Tundu Antiphas Lissu. Mshangao wako ndiyo ulio mshangao wetu na pia kwa kila mpenda haki.

View attachment 1863998

Barikiwa sana beberu, kwa maana makwetu kusikokuwa na mihimili ya uongozi iliyo huru, utamu wa madaraka ukishakolea huwa tunaupiga mwingi kweli kweli kwa maana yake halisi:

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Enyi Mama Samia, Kamanda Sirro na wote mlio na dhamana, iepusheni nchi hii na aibu hii isiyokuwa na kifani!

"Hivi ni kweli kuwa njia hii mliyoichagua haiwatieni hata hofu tu kwa mola wenu?"

Misahafu inasema "mpende jirani yako kama nafsi yako." Bado haiwapi hata angalizo kidogo kutambua kuwa njia mliyoichagua siyo?

Msisahau kuwa mna dhamana ya kuongoza na si kutawala.

Source: Do arrests show Tanzania backsliding on reform commitments? - Democracy Digest

Tumeruka Mkojo mbele tumekuta Jivi

Rasterman · Jul 23, 2021

brazaj said:
Harakati za katiba zimekuwapo kabla ya JK rasimu ya katiba ni mwendelezo wake.

Utopolo wako peleka buseresere. Yuko kwa amani katika mapumziko atakuelewa.

👍

brazaj · Jul 23, 2021

ostrichegg said:
Polisi hawa si ndio walewale waliomua Aquilina, Mwangosi ..........? Siro, Kakwale si ndio wale wale wanaoshindana kulinda kuficha maovu yao?

Ndiyo wale wa MO1, yule profesa wa Arusha na meno ya tembo, wale wa ile kesi ya Zombe, Abdul Nondo aliyekuwa na zingine bwerere wanazijua wataongezea wao.

Rasterman · Jul 23, 2021

Interested Observer said:
I swear!!!
Ali Hassan Mwinyi alikiri kuwa kwa miaka mitano mambo aliyoyafanya JPM Yeye Mwinyi, Mkapa na JK hawajawahi kufanya. That is fact. Think of these: Infrastructure, including Stigler, SGR, Roads, REA. Vile vile fiscal discipline,
Civil discipline- drug addicts walipungua, mules walipungua, at least hong kong ilikuwa inashikilia 400 tanzania citizens kwa drug trafficking ilianza kupumua.

kuhusu ukatili tunalaani, huyu hakuwa kichaa

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