Hapo ndo huwa siwaelewi kwa kweli
Hapo ndo huwa siwaelewi kwa kwelitunapopishana na nyie ni hapo kwenye 'according to my faith' mwenzako nae kasema 'kutokana na mafundisho ya kanisa' leteni andiko kwenye biblia takatifu ambayo ndio msingi wa ukristo..
Kumuomba mtu akuombee sio kosa, lakini napata shaka kama maombi yako yanafika kama unaeomba akuombee nae alikufa na anasubiri siku ya ufufuo kama wewe. kwa nini usiombe moja kwa moja kwa Yesu Kristo ambae tunaamini yu hai tangu enzi na enzi na milele yote..
Any way acha nendelee ku stick kwenye swali langu la msingi,,,, katika biblia ni wapi tumeambiwa maombi yetu yapitie kwa Bikra Maria?
Mkuu bora umekuwa mkweliNkobe
Tatizo hapa ni liturugia, sisi wakatoloki hatusomi maandiko tunasomewa liturugia hivyo hata Biblia hatuijui.
Kwa mfano ibada zetu zimeandaliwa padri anakuja soma hivyo maombi ya tangia mwaka jana ni yaleyale hiyo ndo liturugia.
Bikra Maria ni binadamu kama sisi alitumika kumzaa Yesu. Lakini eti tunamwomba atiombeee biblia inasema jiombee nafsi yako.
Tunaimba mtakatifu...... utuombee hizo ni nyimbo tu siyo maombi.
NILIKUWA HUKO KABLA SIJAACHANA NA HIYO KITU YA 'KUNYWA KIDOGO LAKINI USILEWE' NAJUA UGUMU WA MIOYO YA WATU WALIOKOLEWA NA MASANAMU NA ULEVI NA UZINZI WA KIFICHO KIFICHO...SI RAHISI KUKUSAIDIA ILA NIKUHAKIKISHIE TU KUWA MBINGUNI HAKUNA MALKIA. YESU WANGU HANA KIMADA, SURIA WALA MCHUMBA WA KUITWA MALKIA PALE MBINGUNI...
Tatizo Dada ushabiki unakusumbua ukitaka kujifunza kua positivity alwaysUko huru au hujielewi , pole
William MillerNataka jibu ile back ground pic ile sura ni ya nani...??
Ujaelewa vizuri alimanisha maombi yake yapate kibali mbele zake sio kuchoma katika hali ya kawaidaSoma kitabu cha zaburi pale Daudi anapomtolea Mungu Sadaka kisha kusema "Sala yangu na Ipae mbele zako kama moshi wa Ubani..."
Pia ukisoma Kitabu cha Ufunuo utaona..
"Malaika Mtakatifu kasimama kando ya Altare/madhabahu akiwa ameshika mkononi chetezo cha dhahabu..."
Ila ni kuchoma katika hali gani...? Ya kipekee na siyo ya kawaida...??Ujaelewa vizuri alimanisha maombi yake yapate kibali mbele zake sio kuchoma katika hali ya kawaida
Amekuwa mkweli kwa lipi..?Mkuu bora umekuwa mkweli
Wanafikiri hatujui historia yao..Ni basi tuu..tukiamua utashangaa mods wanafuta uzi...William Miller
Samuel Snow
Hiram Edison
Joseph Bates &
Ellen G White
Waasisi wa SDA wakitaka tuwape historia aibu walioiacha duniani.
Sir Luther and the protestant movement helped the Catholic church to reform. Take for examples the use of local languages. Protestants were ahead of the curve.Vingi vingapi..? Hebu vitaje..? Kanisa Katoliki halijawai kubadilika ni lile lile toka kipindi cha Petro
Oriental churches most of them zina-bolong kwenye Eastern Orthodox Churches...
Sasa Eastern Churches (Orthodox) walijitenga na Kanisa Katoliki karne ya 11...
Mimi ndio sielewi kabisaa biblia ilio punguzwa ni ipi?na ambayo ni ya zamani ni ipi?na nitajuajeMartin Luther alishapata cheo cha , 'uaskofu' wakati huo. Dhana kwamba alifuta vitabu 7 napata shida mamlaka hayo aliyapata wapi? Mnyonge mnyonge lakini haki yake mpe
Anzisha Uzi unaohusu utawleweshwaMimi ndio sielewi kabisaa biblia ilio punguzwa ni ipi?na ambayo ni ya zamani ni ipi?na nitajuaje
Mkuu nyani aoni kundule. Huko Ulaya ukatoliki nao hauna nguvu. Una nguvu dunia ya tatu. Na dunia ya tatu unashindwa kupambana na evangelistsKulikomboa kanisa gani...? Lutheran Church limebaki Africa tuu....Ujerumani ni kama limekufa tayari, Sweden watu hata hajui kanisa nini..
Hayo maono, ndiyo yalipelekea yeye kupunguza vitabu 7 vya Agano la kale..?
Aiseer
Local language sio big deal....Sir Luther and the protestant movement helped the Catholic church to reform. Take for examples the use of local languages. Protestants were ahead of the curve.
Sawa kabisa ..Na ndiyo sababu ya wao kujitenga na Kanisa...Walikuwa wanata decentralization ya power.....Second, Eastern and Oriental churches are loosely tied. Each has its own Patriach or in catholic terms Pope.
Yani unataka kuuliza Petro alianza lini kuwa Baba Mtakatifu.. ?hiki cheo cha upapa kiloanza mwaka gani na nani alikianzisha kwa andiko lipi
Leave this topic guyz,Roman Catholic is the strongest church never happen,if you against Roman Catholic u real against Jesus Crust and his God Father,having a gud time SDA and let's Roman Catholic having their time.Let me agree with you that most of them belong to Eastern Orthodox. But here is the thing. Once you say most of them, you rule out all of them.
Second, Eastern and Oriental churches are loosely tied. Each has its own Patriach or in catholic terms Pope.
Toa sababu yakufutwa vitabu, ni kweli biblia ya kilutheri inaupungufu wa vitabu, pia imebadilishwa maneno mengi, tupe sababu.kiukweli umekuwa mkristo usie na faida.
kuabudu miungu na kuvunja amri za Mungu ndiko kunakutesa mpaka umkosoe martini luther.
kajipange upya na hoja zako zenye kukinzana na imani ya ukristo.