Mount Kilimanjaro or Mombasa port?

Mount Kilimanjaro or Mombasa port?

YOLO....na matunda ya hiyo choice hautakuja kuyaona ..not in this lifetime
Papi Chulo said:
Sasa huwezi kuchagua bandari kwa sababu ni kitu ambacho kinatengenezeka!na wala hatuitaji kujenga bandari,ni maboresho machache tu yanayohitajika kufanywa..au we unaweza kutengeneza mlima mrefu zaidi africa????!?
Licha ya hivyo pia hivi vitu bandari na mlima si lazima huvifaidi wewe hata vizazi vijavyo


Kumbuka hata roma haikujengwa kwa siku moja watu waliona mbali kwa mlima Kilimanjaro,ebu fikiri vizuri,ondoa mawazo ya kulalamika
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citiezb said:
YOLO....na matunda ya hiyo choice hautakuja kuyaona ..not in this lifetime
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Na hilo ndo tatizo lako ..kuwa na mawazo ya kufanya mambo kwa ajili ya wengine,si lazima matunda wewe uyafaidi,hapo ndipo wenzetu wa ulaya na baadhi ya nchi za Amerika na asia wanapotupiga gape

Afrika bwana tuna safari ndefu. .yaani kati ya mlima Kilimanjaro na bandari,ungechagua bandari,na huku una fukwe za kutosha!!!!😃😃😃😃
 
pingli-nywee said:
Watalii zaidi ya 2million huwa wanaingia Kenya kila mwaka, hebu tupe idadi ya watalii ambao wanazuru Tz ili tujue kama wewe pia ni robot.
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Don’t worry, I’ll make it easier for you,

Switzerland with a population of 8.5m has a GDP of $700bn (10times Kenya’s Economy)

Kenya with a population of almost 50m (7folds more) has a GDP of like $60-70bn not very sure,
Now who do you think will have better and quality life?
Lesson: Only mad men talk of quantities.
 
Mlima kwa sasa hatuna haja nao maana tunapiga hela tukiutumia kwa kuutangaza watalii wanakuja pale Amboseli na kuuona, ila bandari ya Mombasa na baba kubwa ukanda wote huu, Dar hata haifikii nusu yake, walijaribu kuibuka na Bagamoyo wakaangukia pua.
Subiri tukamilishe Lamu tufunike kila kitu.
 
MK254 said:
Mlima kwa sasa hatuna haja nao maana tunapiga hela tukiutumia kwa kuutangaza watalii wanakuja pale Amboseli na kuuona, ila bandari ya Mombasa na baba kubwa ukanda wote huu, Dar hata haifikii nusu yake, walijaribu kuibuka na Bagamoyo wakaangukia pua.
Subiri tukamilishe Lamu tufunike kila kitu.
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Lamu ni tembo mkubwa mweupe, hasa ukizingatia lile ni eneo masikini sana hakuna hata barabara wala reli, wenyeji wa lamu husafiri kwa punda, ukiongeza na issue ya usalama ukizingatia al shabaab huvinjari pale na kujinafasi watakavyo kwa kutumia mwanya wa uwezo mdogo wa kdf.
 
game over said:
Lamu ni tembo mkubwa mweupe, hasa ukizingatia lile ni eneo masikini sana hakuna hata barabara wala reli, wenyeji wa lamu husafiri kwa punda, ukiongeza na issue ya usalama ukizingatia al shabaab huvinjari pale na kujinafasi watakavyo kwa kutumia mwanya wa uwezo mdogo wa kdf.
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Lamu inahitaji great thinker kuelewa sio nyie msioshirikisha akili kwenye kutafakari haya mambo, kuna yule mbunge wenu Zito Kabwe, aliwahi kuitolea maelezo Lamu tena kwa lugha nyepesi, sema kwa mlivyoghubikwa na UCCM mwingi mkaishia kumtukana.
Lamu pale tumefunga bao la kufa mtu, yaani ndio bao lenyewe.
Zitto Kabwe ni akili kubwa sana jamaa, utadhani ni Mkenya, huwa nasoma analysis zake za kiuchumi, huwa nashangaa kwanini mumeshindwa kumtolea nje kwa marisasi kama mlivyomfanya Lissu, au kwa vile katokea Kigoma anajua alivyojilinda.
Soma hii analysis yake nyingine japo mumemtukana hadi basi, tatizo lenu hamjui kubisha kwa hoja, hata wasomi wenu hawakai dakika mbili wabishane kwa hoja bila kutririka matusi

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MK254 said:
Lamu inahitaji great thinker kuelewa sio nyie msioshirikisha akili kwenye kutafakari haya mambo, kuna yule mbunge wenu Zito Kabwe, aliwahi kuitolea maelezo Lamu tena kwa lugha nyepesi, sema kwa mlivyoghubikwa na UCCM mwingi mkaishia kumtukana.
Lamu pale tumefunga bao la kufa mtu, yaani ndio bao lenyewe.
Zitto Kabwe ni akili kubwa sana jamaa, utadhani ni Mkenya, huwa nasoma analysis zake za kiuchumi, huwa nashangaa kwanini mumeshindwa kumtolea nje kwa marisasi kama mlivyomfanya Lissu, au kwa vile katokea Kigoma anajua alivyojilinda.
Soma hii analysis yake nyingine japo mumemtukana hadi basi, tatizo lenu hamjui kubisha kwa hoja, hata wasomi wenu hawakai dakika mbili wabishane kwa hoja bila kutririka matusi

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Kwa hiyo hiyo containers mtabeba kwa Punda?
Forget about transshipment bussines
 
hakuna bora, unaweza ukawapa vyote mlima na bandari na bado ukawa na uchumi mkubwa kuliko wao! the problem inaanzia pale wananchi wanapoweka utegemezi katika sources za serikali kwamba lazima iwasukume kiuchumi: Rwanda hawana kimoja wapo apo, uganda hawana kimoja wapo apo lakini ukiongelea heavy ecomomies zinazokuja kwa kasi tz tunakaa pemben


and this doesnt mean haikua right decision but what i am trying to say, investing katika wananchi ndo economy yenyewe, education: health and uwezo wa wananchi kujitambua wanaplay part gan katika nchi
 
citiezb said:
I reckon it didn't....these are just theories though
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get the real fact

Nyerere na kenyatta unawasingizia issues zilizotokea wao wenyewe wakiwa hata ndala hawajawahi kuvaa
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How Kilimanjaro ended up in Tanzania

There is something odd about the map of Kenya. From Lake Victoria to the Coast, the borderline moves in a straight line that is only broken by a small kink
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Hivi hujui hata kama mlima Kilimanjaro ulikua national symbol ya Tanganyika kipindi cha ukoloni?

Ninyi ndio mnaofanya elimu yetu idharaulike kwa kutokujua mambo madogo kama haya.
 
Naton Jr said:
get the real fact

Nyerere na kenyatta unawasingizia issues zilizotokea wao wenyewe wakiwa hata ndala hawajawahi kuvaa
www.nation.co.ke

How Kilimanjaro ended up in Tanzania

There is something odd about the map of Kenya. From Lake Victoria to the Coast, the borderline moves in a straight line that is only broken by a small kink
www.nation.co.ke www.nation.co.ke

Hivi hujui hata kama mlima Kilimanjaro ulikua national symbol ya Tanganyika kipindi cha ukoloni?

Ninyi ndio mnaofanya elimu yetu idharaulike kwa kutokujua mambo madogo kama haya.
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Word,thank you for your reply which in of itself still contains a lot of theories and speculations,whats true though is the fatct that the partition took place before independence...I've updated the thread
But still my concern was not merely on who and when,it was rather on what's more beneficial between Kilimanjaro and Mombasa.
If you had to choose,what would you choose?
 
Papi Chulo said:
Mombasa si bandari kubwa kama unavyodhani kiasi ambacho hakuna nchi inayoweza kuwa nayo... ukijaribu kuangalia Tanzania pekee ina bandari zaidi ya nne zinazotumika ipasavyo,tofauti na kenya wanaotegemea bandari moja...halafu mbona ni hesabu za kawaida tu kwa mtu mwenye akili timamu,ebu fikiri una nchi ambayo ina ufukwe mreeefu zaidi afrika,then unapewa uchague kati ya bandari na mlima mlima mrefu zaidi Afrika,huwezi kuchagua bandari...labda uwe chizi!
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Mombasa is better than those four mini ports combined.

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pingli-nywee said:
Kama Ml. Kilimanjaro ungekuwa Kenya nakuhakikishia kwamba mlima huo ungekuwa unaingizia Kenya hela nyingi zaidi hata ya bandari na Mombasa kwa ujumla.
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Halafu pesa yote ingeishia kwa cartels siyo?
 
citiezb said:
What happened? You think
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Kwenye Anglo-German (Heligoland) treaty (1 July 1890 ) baada ya waingereza kuwa wazungu wa kwanza kupata chanzo cha mto Nile na hivyo kuweza kumiliki mto huo...kwa kufudia, ilibidi wajerumani waongezewe eneo la ziwa Victoria (51%).

Sasa katika kuchora mipaka kutokea ziwani, ikaonekana wajerumani wangepata mlima kilimanjaro na bandari ya Mombasa, hivyo kwa kutumia busara ile ile ya mwanzo ya kuongezewa ukubwa wa ziwa, wajerumani wakaona waupindishe mpaka ili nao waingereza wapate bandari.
 
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