Multinational corporations shut Tanzania operations, enter Kenya

[Mwanzi1]

Tatizo ni uumbwa mwitu wa magufuli, na unafiki alionao umewachosha na kuwachusha hao investors ndo maana teketeke wanakuja Kenya.

Ngoja waje kwenu, mtawapa kila wanchotaka, Tanzania sio nchi ya to back down. MCC walipiga tarumbeta thinking someone surely will come back to running, well ....leo wamefunga mpaka ofisi.

 

[Mwanzi1]

Wazee wa tax holiday wamekaziwa sasa wameanza kulialia.
Let them go,
Hao jamaa wa migodini f...ck them all, JPM apandishe kodi, zaidi na zaidi hadi wasepe tomorow.
*****!

Wametumyonya sana, halafu utasikia hayo makampumi wanavyo kusifia when they are making money from you. oh, the big gold producer, number one FDI destination. Huku wanachukiwa chao wanondoka. Yani sasa hivi ni kumkomalia nyani tuu. Na ungle Magu alisha yajua yote haya, and he was ready for it. Haiwezekani unazalisha dhahabu kiasi hicho halafu unalipa 3% royalty halafu wakati mwingine hata hawalipi wanasema wamepata hasara.

 

[Ian Cruz]

Nyie ni wanyanyasaji ndo maana wahama kule Dar es salam kuja Nairobi. Ease of doing business index iko chini Sana.

 

[Dhuks]

I would not say if it is good or bad without figures, maybe they are only crybabies. I have witnessed companies leaving the kenyan market with all manner of insinuations only for their competitors to smile all the way to the bank

 

[MGILEADI]

The only problem I see in this is that we are doing it now not earlier.

 

[mtanzania1989]

Nothing wrong with collecting taxes.... Kenya inapata kodi mara dufu na, zaidi ya Tanzania...kwahivyo tunaelewa na tunayajua haya mambo....
lakini vile Tz imefanya ni vibaya, you cannot play robinhood with economy.... hii comment....
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A local franchisee for a global brand said it was in the process of leaving the country after a tax bill this year that topped its combined sales for the past five years.
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baada ya kugeuza sheria, hio kampuni imelazimika kulipa kodi ambayo ni zaidi ya faida yote walio ipata kwa miaka mitano iliopita.... hio s ulipaji kodi tena, hapo unamfujuza muekezaji

Si bure hapo lazima kuna story nyuma ya pazia, mostly probably walikuwa wanakwepa kodi kwa muda mrefu, Tz wafanyabiashara wengi walikuwa peponi kwa miongo, usipokwepa kodi ulikuwa unaonekana zoba, acha wanyooshwe tu.

 

[mtanzania1989]

Hizo Telecommunication companies zinapiga kelele kwa kuwa wamebanwa kuanzia Jan 2017 waanze kuuza shares zao DSE, waTz tuna haki ya kufaidi faida ya matumizi yetu na itasaidia kujua faida halisi wanayopata. Acha Magu aendelee kubanana nao hivi, mabadiliko yana gharama.

 

[Mwelewa]

Hao Investors kwenye mining sectors waondoke tu hawana msaada wowote wame rob hii nchi kwa miongo mingi wafungashe virago waende wanapoona panawafaa. Juzi hapa tulilamika jinsi wamekezaji feki walivyokuwa wananyonya nchi leo mambo yanabadilika mnawapongeza tena?

 

[Kiba mzaire]

Nothing wrong with collecting taxes.... Kenya inapata kodi mara dufu na, zaidi ya Tanzania...kwahivyo tunaelewa na tunayajua haya mambo....
lakini vile Tz imefanya ni vibaya, you cannot play robinhood with economy.... hii comment....
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A local franchisee for a global brand said it was in the process of leaving the country after a tax bill this year that topped its combined sales for the past five years.
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baada ya kugeuza sheria, hio kampuni imelazimika kulipa kodi ambayo ni zaidi ya faida yote walio ipata kwa miaka mitano iliopita.... hio s ulipaji kodi tena, hapo unamfujuza muekezaji

waache waende tuna kampuni za madini kila siku zinatangaza kuwa zimepata hasara lakini cha ajabu kila mwaka wanatoa Zaidi ya USD 700 Millioni kama faida inayotakiwa kugawiwa kwa shareholders na migodi pekee waliyonayo ni hii ya Tanzania ambayo kwenye vitabu vyao inaendeshwa kwa hasara sasa unajiuliza hiyo USD 700M za kugawa kama profit inatoka wapi wakati wanapata hasara? hapo ndipo utagundua hawa wengi wanatunyonya sio wawekezaji wa kweli....na waende tu

 

[Kiba mzaire]

Kiburi chenu hiki ndio tatizo. Maskini hufai kuwa jeuri maana hata pipi na sindano unàagiza. Mkae chini na wawekezaji muelewe tatizo nini.

Nimeona hata Dangote amesimamisha shughuli. Ipo siku mtamkumbuka Kikwete.

sisi tunataka wawekezaji lakini sio wawekezaji wajanja wajanja ambao hawana tija waende tu maana wameitumia vibaya sana Tax incentives walizokuwa wanapewa now its time kuondoa vyote hivyo ili tubaki na investors wenye faida na nchi na sio wanyonyaji

 

[Retired]

President John Magufuli, nicknamed "the Bulldozer" for his infrastructure projects and pugnacious leadership style!!!!......???
Uchochezi!

 

[MK254]

sisi tunataka wawekezaji lakini sio wawekezaji wajanja wajanja ambao hawana tija waende tu maana wameitumia vibaya sana Tax incentives walizokuwa wanapewa now its time kuondoa vyote hivyo ili tubaki na investors wenye faida na nchi na sio wanyonyaji

Sasa mbona mnatoa taarifa tofauti tofauti kuhusu Dangote, mara alisitisha kiwanda kwa issue ya mkaa wa mawe, mara eti mitambo, mara mnasema atapata mkaa wa mawe mara hiki mara kile..... shughuli

 

[Mnyampaa msingida]

Yani katika laana ambayo nahisi itanihukumu milele haswa kutokana na mateso wanayopata watanzania ni kumnadi na kumpigia kura huyu jamaaa....bora ningelala home nile viloba vyangu!,panapohitaj elimu haswa uchumi yy anaeka politics mbele....sitashangaa kama tutaludi enzi za kuvaa kobasi na ngu za vilaka

Utashi wako wa kufikiri umeishia hapo.

 

[Mvaa Tai]

Yani katika laana ambayo nahisi itanihukumu milele haswa kutokana na mateso wanayopata watanzania ni kumnadi na kumpigia kura huyu jamaaa....bora ningelala home nile viloba vyangu!,panapohitaj elimu haswa uchumi yy anaeka politics mbele....sitashangaa kama tutaludi enzi za kuvaa kobasi na ngu za vilaka

Mkemia anayefanya maamuzi makubwa ya kiuchumi akipuuza ushauri wa Wachumi tena kwa hisia tu

 

[Mp Kalix2]

Many of the executives interviewed by Reuters said they were frustrated by increased tax demands that they say do not properly correspond to their incomes.
A local franchisee for a global brand said it was in the process of leaving the country after a tax bill this year that topped its combined sales for the past five years. It said it had already sold one outlet and closed another.
An executive whose company has invested hundreds of millions of dollars in the country said he was now looking at expanding in Kenya or Mali, rather than Tanzania, partly due to the new tax demands.

Nadhani siyo sahihi kusema "New Tax Demands''. Na Serikali isilipuuze sana hoja hiyo. Serikali hii kwa sasa inafanya usimamizi mzuri wa Makusanyo ya Kodi ,nadhani tatizo ni Kiwango cha Kodi na zile fees ziambatanazo nayo kwenye masuala yab Leseni mbalimbali kutegemeana na aina ya Biashara. OSHA ,TBS,TFDA,FIRE,TALA,SUMATRA, TBS,NEMC etc.
Sasa hapo hujaongeza rushwa inayoambatana nayo kwa watumishi wa umma kutotoa nafasi kwa Taasisi pale panapojitokeza mapungufu kwenye kuzingatia Kanuni hizo hapo juu.

 

[Ian Cruz]

Mwanzo wa ngoma ndo huo

 

[chumvichumvi]

Let me wait and see

 

[Hute]

pipi ni kwetu ni kweli tunaagiza toka Iringa. sijui kama unalifahamu hilo.

 

[Kiba mzaire]

Sasa mbona mnatoa taarifa tofauti tofauti kuhusu Dangote, mara alisitisha kiwanda kwa issue ya mkaa wa mawe, mara eti mitambo, mara mnasema atapata mkaa wa mawe mara hiki mara kile..... shughuli

ishu ya dangote mzizi wake ni TRANSFER PRICING wao wanataka wavune faida kwetu afu ipelekwe sehemu nyingine ishu ni kwamba jamaa aliambiwa atauziwa makaa ya mawe na gesi lakini cha ajabu katengeneza kampuni iliyosajiliwa inchini Mauritius ili yenyewe iuziwe gas isiyochakatwa kwa bei ya chini sana afu hiyo kampuni iichakate na kuiuzia kiwanda cha cement kwa bei kubwa ili kupunguza faida kwenye Cement ambayo in return itapunguza kiwango cha kodi itakayolipwa sababu ya gharama kubwa hivyo atakuwa anajipigia faida nzuri itakayowekwa mauritus huko ambao wao wamekubali mfumo huo na ndio maana makampuni makubwa yanajisajili huko sasa Magufuli kalijua hilo ndio maana jamaa wameambiwa wanunue gas iliyochakatwa na pia makaa ya mawe yanunuliwe hapa hapa sababu yapo yanayoweza kutumika kwa Zaidi ya miaka 200 na dangote alianza kwa kusema atanunua tani elfu 5000 ambazo hadi leo hajazilipia......................................

wawekezaji tunawapenda lakini sio wanyoyaji

 

[Mwanzi1]

ishu ya dangote mzizi wake ni TRANSFER PRICING wao wanataka wavune faida kwetu afu ipelekwe sehemu nyingine ishu ni kwamba jamaa aliambiwa atauziwa makaa ya mawe na gesi lakini cha ajabu katengeneza kampuni iliyosajiliwa inchini Mauritius ili yenyewe iuziwe gas isiyochakatwa kwa bei ya chini sana afu hiyo kampuni iichakate na kuiuzia kiwanda cha cement kwa bei kubwa ili kupunguza faida kwenye Cement ambayo in return itapunguza kiwango cha kodi itakayolipwa sababu ya gharama kubwa hivyo atakuwa anajipigia faida nzuri itakayowekwa mauritus huko ambao wao wamekubali mfumo huo na ndio maana makampuni makubwa yanajisajili huko sasa Magufuli kalijua hilo ndio maana jamaa wameambiwa wanunue gas iliyochakatwa na pia makaa ya mawe yanunuliwe hapa hapa sababu yapo yanayoweza kutumika kwa Zaidi ya miaka 200 na dangote alianza kwa kusema atanunua tani elfu 5000 ambazo hadi leo hajazilipia......................................

wawekezaji tunawapenda lakini sio wanyoyaji

Watu wanakimbilia kulaumu tuu bila kujuwa ukweli, wawekezaji wengine wanafikiria Tanzania bado imelala. Si unakumbuka mgodi ulisema unapata hasara wakati wanalipa dividend to their share holders in UK. Kama Mzee anavyo sema, asiefanya kazi asile, na wao kama kodi ni shida wachape lapa.