My view on Kenya elevated express toll roads

[Geza Ulole]

Do you want to learn or throw around childish insults?

to learn from a bogus project that wastes a corridor of +27 km on just a toll highway to nowhere! Idiot, i don't wanna learn utopolo! Those poles could be put in a manner a corridor of at least 2 lanes for BRT buses! Ila mamburura hamjafikiria hilo!

 

[NairobiWalker]

Seriously men, are you in denial or what?

It has the source in that post. You just had to open it and see. How is that so hard?

You posted your own thread as a source, it's you that's in denial.

 

[ForeverMore]

You posted your own thread as a source, it's you that's in denial.

Here you go

Govt Unveils BRT Buses Schedule for Nairobi Estates

BRT buses will serve five routes within Nairobi County, ferrying passengers to and from various estates.

www.kenyans.co.ke

 

[Geza Ulole]

Here you go

Govt Unveils BRT Buses Schedule for Nairobi Estates

BRT buses will serve five routes within Nairobi County, ferrying passengers to and from various estates.

www.kenyans.co.ke

Hii habari huwa wanaikataa!

 

[NairobiWalker]

Here you go

Govt Unveils BRT Buses Schedule for Nairobi Estates

BRT buses will serve five routes within Nairobi County, ferrying passengers to and from various estates.

www.kenyans.co.ke

Like I explained from that thread, this is a bogus blog and nothing like that exists in Nairobi. Currently, there are two lines of BRT infrastructure under construction in Nairobi. One is along the Expressway and the other is along Thika road. You can decide to take that information or continue gulping what pleases your gut as long as it makes you feel good about yourself.

 

[ForeverMore]

Hii habari huwa wanaikataa!

Nashangaa anajifanya hajui kuwa wamezindua a 12 bus BRT.

 

[ForeverMore]

Like I explained from that thread, this is a bogus blog and nothing like that exists in Nairobi. Currently, there are two lines of BRT infrastructure under construction in Nairobi. One is along the Expressway and the other is along Thika road. You can decide to take that information or continue gulping what pleases your gut as long as it makes you feel good about yourself.

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Anyway, as I said, sijaandika hii post kwa ajili ya battle.

 

[NairobiWalker]

............and for those who care to learn, here is the cross-section of the expressway. Notice the inner lower grade lanes - those are the BRT lanes.

 

[game over]

Watu wanahitaji kudrive gari zao...commuter train maana yake ukifika unakoenda utafute usafiri mwingine ila iyo imekaa kibepari zaidi...Ni idea nzuri pia. ..kumbuka japo kuna zalishwa moshi mwingi mchafu lakini pia uchumi unazunguka vIzuri, Fikiria watu laki 2 waache gari zao nyumbani wapande treni kwenda kazini wauza mafuta wamepoteza kaisi gani kwa siku?na ajira ngap ziko mashakani

Kaka hapa you are missing a point,
Idea ya kupunguza foleni barabarani ni pamoja kupunguza idadi ya Magari barabarani (yakiwemo yale binafsi)
Kama kukiwa na usafiri mzuri wa umma, watu wengi wataacha magari yao majumbani na kutumia magari ya uma, (decent commuter trains + brt)
Mimi nakaa Kimara na nimeona wengi wakipaki magari yao Kimara mwisho na kudandia mwendokasi hadi posta, wakirudi wanachukua magari yao, tayari hapa Kimara kuna parkings ambazo ukiacha chombo yako hapo ni buku tu kwa siku nzima na ulinzi upo,
Mimi pia nikiwa na mishe posta weekend huwa naacha chombo hapo nadandia mwendokasi fasta. Japo katikati ya wiki bado sishawishiki kutumia public transport.
Honestly, decent trains and Brt was better idea than the stupid overpriced chinese owned expressway. Upuuzi wa Kenya hakuna Africa nzima, kukosa maono kwa viongozi wa Kenya ndio kunafanya overpriced projects za mikopo ya wachina kama SGR na Lamu port kuwa white elephants.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Kaka hapa you are missing a point,
Idea ya kupunguza foleni barabarani ni pamoja kupunguza idadi ya Magari barabarani (yakiwemo yale binafsi)
Kama kukiwa na usafiri mzuri wa umma, watu wengi wataacha magari yao majumbani na kutumia magari ya uma, (decent commuter trains + brt)
Mimi nakaa Kimara na nimeona wengi wakipaki magari yao Kimara mwisho na kudandia mwendokasi hadi posta, wakirudi wanachukua magari yao, tayari hapa Kimara kuna parkings ambazo ukiacha chombo yako hapo ni buku tu kwa siku nzima na ulinzi upo,
Mimi pia nikiwa na mishe posta weekend huwa naacha chombo hapo nadandia mwendokasi fasta. Japo katikati ya wiki bado sishawishiki kutumia public transport.
Honestly, decent trains and Brt was better idea than the stupid overpriced chinese owned expressway. Upuuzi wa Kenya hakuna Africa nzima, kukosa maono kwa viongozi wa Kenya ndio kunafanya overpriced projects za mikopo ya wachina kama SGR na Lamu port kuwa white elephants.

Halafu wanajenga kiboya bila ku-economize space chini ya hii highway kama wangekuwa na maono wangemwambia mchina aache upana wa kutosha 2 lanes za BRT katikati ya nguzo na nguzo, Ila wapii! Mamburura walikosa akili hiyo!

 

[Tony254]

Watu hupoteza masaa mangapi kunasa kwenye foleni?kama unaweza tumia lita mbili hadi tatu umesimama tu si bora ulipe iyo Tsh 2000 uwahi kufika ukafanye mambo mengine!!

Kikubwa iyo barabara isitengeneze foleni popote iyo express kwelikweli...Ukishakua na uhakika wa kufika kazini kwa wakati na kurudi home kwa wakati mtaongeza uzalishaji mali na muda wa kupumzika pia utaongezeka...!!Kwa mtazamo wangu Iyo expressway ni ya muhimu

Asante. Case closed.

 

[Tony254]

Watu wanahitaji kudrive gari zao...commuter train maana yake ukifika unakoenda utafute usafiri mwingine ila iyo imekaa kibepari zaidi...Ni idea nzuri pia. ..kumbuka japo kuna zalishwa moshi mwingi mchafu lakini pia uchumi unazunguka vIzuri, Fikiria watu laki 2 waache gari zao nyumbani wapande treni kwenda kazini wauza mafuta wamepoteza kaisi gani kwa siku?na ajira ngap ziko mashakani

Napenda jinsi unavyofikiria.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Napenda jinsi unavyofikiria.

Mtaendelea kuona hii maneno kwenye video!

 

[komora096]

Nashangaa anajifanya hajui kuwa wamezindua a 12 bus BRT.

Ziko wapi, tatizo ulianzisha uzi kinafiki

 

[game over]

Halafu wanajenga kiboya bila ku-economize space chini ya hii highway kama wangekuwa na maono wangemwambia mchina aache upana wa kutosha 2 lanes za BRT katikati ya nguzo na nguzo, Ila wapii! Mamburura walikosa akili hiyo!

Wataongea nini sasa wakati hawachangii hata 100 kwenye Mradi. Mwenye hela yake anaamua ajengaje kwa manufaa yake. Kimsingi mchina atataka kuona foleni inaongezeka Nairobi na hakuna any project ili wajazane kwenye expressway apige pesa nyingi for the next 30yrs. Hawezi acha nafasi ya Brt au LRT ambazo zikijengwa zitapunguza Mapato kwenye mradi wake wa expressway

 

[ForeverMore]

Ziko wapi, tatizo ulianzisha uzi kinafiki

Ina maana hii link huja iona ama?

https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news...buses-schedule-nairobi-estates

 

[tuusan]

Kaka hapa you are missing a point,
Idea ya kupunguza foleni barabarani ni pamoja kupunguza idadi ya Magari barabarani (yakiwemo yale binafsi)
Kama kukiwa na usafiri mzuri wa umma, watu wengi wataacha magari yao majumbani na kutumia magari ya uma, (decent commuter trains + brt)
Mimi nakaa Kimara na nimeona wengi wakipaki magari yao Kimara mwisho na kudandia mwendokasi hadi posta, wakirudi wanachukua magari yao, tayari hapa Kimara kuna parkings ambazo ukiacha chombo yako hapo ni buku tu kwa siku nzima na ulinzi upo,
Mimi pia nikiwa na mishe posta weekend huwa naacha chombo hapo nadandia mwendokasi fasta. Japo katikati ya wiki bado sishawishiki kutumia public transport.
Honestly, decent trains and Brt was better idea than the stupid overpriced chinese owned expressway. Upuuzi wa Kenya hakuna Africa nzima, kukosa maono kwa viongozi wa Kenya ndio kunafanya overpriced projects za mikopo ya wachina kama SGR na Lamu port kuwa white elephants.

USA kwa mfano watu wengi wanamiliki magari yao binafsi...kule usafiri wa umma ni wa kizamani maana hauna soko sana...ndio maana wao waliwekeza sana kwenye barabara pana madaraja makubwa na hadi kufikia kua na barabara za kulipia...
Kiukweli Mimi siwezi acha gari yangu nikapande mwendokasi!!gari yako inaraha yake...unatoka ofisini unaendaunakoenda anytime ,Haiepukiki watu kua na magari lakini kwa wale ambao hawana Huo uwezo basi ni vyema kuwaboreshea usafiri wao usiwe na kero nyingi...
Kikubwa kila mtu apambane na uwezo wake hatuwezi wote kupanda metro au BRT ilo haliwezekani...

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[ForeverMore]

USA kwa mfano watu wengi wanamiliki magari yao binafsi...kule usafiri wa umma ni wa kizamani maana hauna soko sana...ndio maana wao waliwekeza sana kwenye barabara pana madaraja makubwa na hadi kufikia kua na barabara za kulipia...
Kiukweli Mimi siwezi acha gari yangu nikapande mwendokasi!!gari yako inaraha yake...unatoka ofisini unaendaunakoenda anytime ,Haiepukiki watu kua na magari lakini kwa wale ambao hawana Huo uwezo basi ni vyema kuwaboreshea usafiri wao usiwe na kero nyingi...
Kikubwa kila mtu apambane na uwezo wake hatuwezi wote kupanda metro au BRT ilo haliwezekani...

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We are not saying everyone apande metro au BRT. What we are suggesting is that wouldn't be better to use the opportunity and resources that is now building Express toll roads to build SGR?

That would reduce congestion, it would help more people, and those who will be using their cars, won't have to pay extra to do so in tolls.

Looks like win win to me.

 

[game over]

USA kwa mfano watu wengi wanamiliki magari yao binafsi...kule usafiri wa umma ni wa kizamani maana hauna soko sana...ndio maana wao waliwekeza sana kwenye barabara pana madaraja makubwa na hadi kufikia kua na barabara za kulipia...
Kiukweli Mimi siwezi acha gari yangu nikapande mwendokasi!!gari yako inaraha yake...unatoka ofisini unaendaunakoenda anytime ,Haiepukiki watu kua na magari lakini kwa wale ambao hawana Huo uwezo basi ni vyema kuwaboreshea usafiri wao usiwe na kero nyingi...
Kikubwa kila mtu apambane na uwezo wake hatuwezi wote kupanda metro au BRT ilo haliwezekani...

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Okay, Labda huelewi tu, kwa nchi zilizoendelea za Ulaya na Marekani Karibu kila kaya ina gari moja au zaidi, walio wengi bado huacha magari yao na kutumia public transport kuepuka gharama nyingi zikiwemo parking mijini etc..zile foleni unaona kwenye baadhi ya miji kama Loss Angels ni sehemu ndogo sana ya magari yaliyopo Califonia. Ndio maana zimewekeza saana kwenye public transport maana mifumo ya usafiri wa umma ikiwa hovyo watu wakatoka na magari yao itakuwa ni disaster mzee..
though naelewa concern yako hasa kwetu sisi watu wa Ulimwengu wa tatu ambapo kumiliki gari ni mafanikio makubwa tunaona kama ni fahari kuvimba na vitoyota vyetu 2nd hand barabarani,
But mind you, nilikaa Berlin wiki Mbili nikaona watu wanakuwa encouraged kuacha magari yao na kutumia baiskeli instead.

 

[Venus Star]

Watu hupoteza masaa mangapi kunasa kwenye foleni?kama unaweza tumia lita mbili hadi tatu umesimama tu si bora ulipe iyo Tsh 2000 uwahi kufika ukafanye mambo mengine!!

Kikubwa iyo barabara isitengeneze foleni popote iyo express kwelikweli...Ukishakua na uhakika wa kufika kazini kwa wakati na kurudi home kwa wakati mtaongeza uzalishaji mali na muda wa kupumzika pia utaongezeka...!!Kwa mtazamo wangu Iyo expressway ni ya muhimu

We jamaa tangu tukupige za uso umeanza kutoa point za kitoto sana.