'Na pesa yetu' ATCL already making massive losses... CAG report

'Na pesa yetu' ATCL already making massive losses... CAG report

joto la jiwe said:
Hahahahaha, mumeanza kuweweseka, poleni sana, mtaendelea kuweweseka sana, Tanzania inasonga mbele. Repoti ya CAG imesema hivi;
1) Kuanzia mwaka 2005 hadi 2017 ATCL ilipata hasara ya TSh 38B, hiki ni kipindi ambacho ATCL ilikua na ndege mbili chakavu, moja ilikuwa sio ya ATCL.
2)Katika kipindi cha kuanzia 2017 hadi 2018, ambacho ndio kipindi cha ukaguzi, sasa hivi ATCL hasara iliyobaki ni Tshs 16B, hii maana yake ni kwamba 48% ya deni limelipwa ndani ya kipindi cha mwaka mmoja wa hizo ndege mpya kuanza kufanya biashara.
3) Kwa hesabu za haraka, ndani ya kipindi cha mwaka mmoja na nusu, ndege za ATCL zimetengeneza zaidi ya Tshs.12B, ambazo zimelipa deni la nyuma, deni lililobaki ni 16B.
Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahahahaha.
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kaka hacha kutupoteza hasara sio deni .. loss ukila imetoka
 
joto la jiwe said:
You are more than stupid, do you think Dangote is suppose to be in every aspect of the business just because he has money?. He is not suppose to involve himself in area where he has got know technical know how even if has got money.

You have said well that big airlines companies buy their own planes instead of leasing, the reason is clear, they have money. Tanzania we have money that's why we pay for our SGR $3.9B, Rufiji dam $3B, Planes $800M. Show me any project in Kenya above $1B which has been paid by your Government.

Kenyans are flocking to Tanzania for medical care, show me your Hospital in Kenya which do Open heart surgeries to 100 patients per year, Show me any Kenyan public hospital with lenear accelerator machines for cancer treatment. Tanzania we have the best cancer, Heart and Orthopedic Hospitals in Subsahara Africa, out of South Africa.
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In Kenya even small sub-county hospitals like Kericho perform open heart surgeries. As if that's not all, NHIF insurance covers most of it.
Mater hospital has been having their annual Mater heart run since 2002, to subsidize heart surgery prices for its hundreds of patients. Some things Kenya has been doing since the 80s and 90s and you think you have invented something new. Bongolala will never cease to amaze us.
You should hide in shame. Go improve your life expectancy as a nation and come back here to talk.

Tanzania is a very poor country. You find yourself boasting that you are operating 100 heart patients per year. That's a normal Tuesday in Kenya.
Sell those planes and build hospitals. You really have no shame.
 
tuusan said:
If tz ex pres were abt to revive ATCL up to this time we might have more than 30 airplanes , slowly but sure,another dreamliner and bombadier q400 are coming to add our fleet size, We have a deal with China ,abt 10000 tourist Chinese will visit Tz this yr so we need a dreamliner for this
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You made a deal with Chinese tourists? 😂😂😂
Your supremo lied to you (again) that signing papers in a conference room equates to having tourists board planes and come to visit.
That said, 10,000 is not a number you should be bragging about. Especially Chinese who are known to be extremely low spenders abroad.

The way the loss making ATCL is being run, with health and infrastructure money, it's only a matter of time before collapse.
 
joto la jiwe said:
Tanzania we have money that's why we pay for our SGR $3.9B, Rufiji dam $3B, Planes $800M. Show me any project in Kenya above $1B which has been paid by your Government.
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Tuta, kuta, tuta...
Fake, non-existent projects.

Kenya
SGR, Geothermal, Medical equipment programme, countless highways, flyovers and bypasses, hospitals, Dams, Lamu port etc.
Those are projects worth TRILLIONS of shillings. Not the measly $1B you are talking about.

These projects exist, unlike most of yours.

The best part is, they have been paid for by our government. Kenya does not take donations like some country I won't name.

We pay for all our projects. We sit down like grown ups and agree on a payment plan, then pay.

It is impossible to even contemplate listing all projects happening right now in Kenya. Especially by the county governments.
 
kennedy0000 said:
Tuta, kuta, tuta...
Fake, non-existent projects.

Kenya
SGR, Geothermal, Medical equipment programme, countless highways, flyovers and bypasses, hospitals, Dams, Lamu port etc.
Those are projects worth TRILLIONS of shillings. Not the measly $1B you are talking about.

These projects exist, unlike most of yours.

The best part is, they have been paid for by our government. Kenya does not take donations like some country I won't name.

We pay for all our projects. We sit down like grown ups and agree on a payment plan, then pay.

It is impossible to even contemplate listing all projects happening right now in Kenya. Especially by the county governments.
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Please can you mention one project which costs more than $1B which the Government of Kenya has paid from its pocket?, There is no single major project in Kenya currently Worth's $1B that is paid by Government.

The biggest project currently is Lamu Port, GoK only managed to get $500M. Geothermal is a private project, GoK contributed nothing. Kenya without China can't survive.
 
kennedy0000 said:
Tuta, kuta, tuta...
Fake, non-existent projects.

Kenya
SGR, Geothermal, Medical equipment programme, countless highways, flyovers and bypasses, hospitals, Dams, Lamu port etc.
Those are projects worth TRILLIONS of shillings. Not the measly $1B you are talking about.

These projects exist, unlike most of yours.

The best part is, they have been paid for by our government. Kenya does not take donations like some country I won't name.

We pay for all our projects. We sit down like grown ups and agree on a payment plan, then pay.

It is impossible to even contemplate listing all projects happening right now in Kenya. Especially by the county governments.
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Hahahahaha, Kenya's projects can't get even 50% value of Tanzania projects.
allafrica.com

East Africa: Tanzania, Uganda Top EA's Project Funding Needs This Year

Tanzania and Uganda's oil and pipeline projects will top this year's infrastructure transactions in the region, with the two countries seeking over $7 billion funding for the projects, a new report shows.
allafrica.com allafrica.com
 
joto la jiwe said:
Hahahahaha, Kenya's projects can't get even 50% value of Tanzania projects.
allafrica.com

East Africa: Tanzania, Uganda Top EA's Project Funding Needs This Year

Tanzania and Uganda's oil and pipeline projects will top this year's infrastructure transactions in the region, with the two countries seeking over $7 billion funding for the projects, a new report shows.
allafrica.com allafrica.com
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Lol. How many times will we talk about that 'fake' report.
The authors looked around Kenya and were only able to see one project.
If we add Nairobi Western bypass, Dongo Kundu, Lamu port, Nairobi-Nakuru superhighway, Ngong road, Nyali bridge, Waiyaki-redhill road.. plus many others that have started or continuing this year, we are talking of more projects than Tanzania, Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda combined.
When in doubt, skyscrapercity will give you some examples of the projects happening.

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2639
 
joto la jiwe said:
Please can you mention one project which costs more than $1B which the Government of Kenya has paid from its pocket?, There is no single major project in Kenya currently Worth's $1B that is paid by Government.

The biggest project currently is Lamu Port, GoK only managed to get $500M. Geothermal is a private project, GoK contributed nothing. Kenya without China can't survive.
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We have thousands of projects on going in the country. None of them is a donation. We pay for everything.
 
kennedy0000 said:
You made a deal with Chinese tourists? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Your supremo lied to you (again) that signing papers in a conference room equates to having tourists board planes and come to visit.
That said, 10,000 is not a number you should be bragging about. Especially Chinese who are known to be extremely low spenders abroad.

The way the loss making ATCL is being run, with health and infrastructure money, it's only a matter of time before collapse.
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What's funny?
You don't have to believe anything,Chinese will b coming from July 19 ,take it or leave it
 
kennedy0000 said:
A mother and her two pot bellied kids eating roast meat? No, I've never seen.
Tanzania is malnourished.
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What about this wild animal in its natural habitat? Ever seen such in Tz?👇👇👇
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kennedy0000 said:
We have thousands of projects on going in the country. None of them is a donation. We pay for everything.
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Hahahahaha, mention just one which is over $1B funded by GoK. Hahahahaha let me give you few projects in Tanzania.
1)SGR $3.9B
2)Rufiji dam $3B
3)ATCL planes $800M

Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahaha
 
kennedy0000 said:
Lol. How many times will we talk about that 'fake' report.
The authors looked around Kenya and were only able to see one project.
If we add Nairobi Western bypass, Dongo Kundu, Lamu port, Nairobi-Nakuru superhighway, Ngong road, Nyali bridge, Waiyaki-redhill road.. plus many others that have started or continuing this year, we are talking of more projects than Tanzania, Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda combined.
When in doubt, skyscrapercity will give you some examples of the projects happening.

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2639
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Hahahahaha, umezidiwa sana kaka, kila report inayozungumza negative kuhusu Kenya ni fake. Hahahahaha.

I am still waiting for a single project above $1B which is funded by GoK, hahahahaha.
 
Kidzude said:
break even may take ages
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these Tanzanians don't know what they talk about most of the time. A company take take even 20 years to break even. Even Airtel has not been able to break even almost two decades after venturing in the market. It's funny how they say ATCL is making profits in just one year.
 
Nicxie said:
these Tanzanians don't know what they talk about most of the time. A company take take even 20 years to break even. Even Airtel has not been able to break even almost two decades after venturing in the market. It's funny how they say ATCL is making profits in just one year.
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Achana na hawa utaumwa na kichwa bure
 
Nicxie said:
these Tanzanians don't know what they talk about most of the time. A company take take even 20 years to break even. Even Airtel has not been able to break even almost two decades after venturing in the market. It's funny how they say ATCL is making profits in just one year.
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Kenyans know everything except fighting hunger, tribalism, corruption, insecurity, poverty, unemployment, crime, police killings, and slums.

Every well planned business should break even within short period as possible, the longer it takes to break even, the higher the chance for loss making. If it happens a business is taking many years to break even, that is very unfortunate, is not something that was planned and expected from the beginning.
 
joto la jiwe said:
Hahahahaha, umezidiwa sana kaka, kila report inayozungumza negative kuhusu Kenya ni fake. Hahahahaha.

I am still waiting for a single project above $1B which is funded by GoK, hahahahaha.
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Literally outside my office window there is a road expansion happening. Hii barabara haiko kwa hiyo repoti. Nashindwa basi kwani mwandishi wa hio ripoti alikuwa kipofu.

Kenya has projects worth several trillions. We pay for all of them. As I told, you, we don't take donations.
We just sit down and agree on payment plans.
 
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