Ni Mambo Gani unaweza kusamehe au kutokusamehe?

Ni Mambo Gani unaweza kusamehe au kutokusamehe?

Lizzy said:
VoR you are just trying to excuse everybody!The society is not in attempt to help itself by locking up these people up!It's punishing them by taking away their freedom..make them live in a way that is not meant for humans..so the society..us collectivelly do not forgive we condemn!
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Hebu nikuulize dada Lizzy, katika makosa ya kwenye mahusiano, huwa una condemn then husamehi, au unacondemn na kusamehe au una samehe bila ku-condemn au hufanyi vyote?

Issue ni what precede the other.
 
rev masanilo said:
.......utusamehe makosa yetu kama sisi tunavyowasamehe wale wote waliotukosea.......... This is very strong philosophical and spiritual wise.
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but we are not leaving in a spiritual world!
 
Rev Masanilo said:
Mat 6:14
http://biblia.com/bible/niv/Matthew 6.14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
Ephesians 4:32
Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you

Lizzy

Forgiveness is a decision of the will. Since God commands us to forgive, we must make a conscious choice to forgive. This frees the forgiving one from the past. Once you forgive you should bury it and forget. You should move on.
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:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2: (lakini jana kuna mtu alisema hawezi kukusamehe)
 
VoiceOfReason said:
Msamaha does not mean kwamba uendelee kukaa na mtu...., What I mean ni kwamba you let it go... unaweza ukamuacha mwenza wako and go separate ways lakini ukamsamehe na sio ku-hold the grudge
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Msamaha wa kweli..WA KWENYE BIBLIA ule hausemi usamehe na kuacha!Unatakiwa kusamehe..usahau na kuendeleza maisha kama kawaida!Unaoongelea wewe ni sawa na kupotezea kitu tu..kwamba nakwambia nimekusamehe ila kwanzia leo tusijuane..ila na nikikuona naweza kukumbuka!
 
Rev...we are commanded to do a lot of things but we don't follow through with it!If we did...we probably wouldn't need forgiveness!
 
Lizzy said:
VoR you are just trying to excuse everybody!The society is not in attempt to help itself by locking up these people up!It's punishing them by taking away their freedom..make them live in a way that is not meant for humans..so the society..us collectivelly do not forgive we condemn!
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Hapo it serves the two purposes Kwanza.., kuwaweka ndani ili liwe fundisho kwa wengine waogope kufanya hivyo..., ila when it comes to rapist and murderes locking them help community as well so they dont get a chance to hurt someone else...

Lakini when it comes to an individual ukisamehe.., letting it go..., itakusaidia mwenyewe..., mwisho wa siku dua zako za kuku hazitampata mwewe na wewe utazidi kuumia..., au na wewe utaua alafu you might end up getting locked up na your loved ones will miss you and life will pass you by.... its just not worth it....
 
Mi naweze samehe chochote na nimesamhe mengi ila SISAHAU,na kuna siku nalia asubuhi hadi usiku na kumuuliza Mungu kwanini nilifanyiwa hivi but waliofanya nikawasamehe sina neno nao na tuko vizuri tu toka ndani ya moyo wangu......tumetofautiana mama mchungaji....... naongelea vitu vikubwa kusamehe si ku-cheat tu.....tua mizigo kwa Mungu,wanasema forgiveness is good for you and for the person who wronged you........
 
Lizzy said:
Msamaha wa kweli..WA KWENYE BIBLIA ule hausemi usamehe na kuacha!Unatakiwa kusamehe..usahau na kuendeleza maisha kama kawaida!Unaoongelea wewe ni sawa na kupotezea kitu tu..kwamba nakwambia nimekusamehe ila kwanzia leo tusijuane..ila na nikikuona naweza kukumbuka!
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Then I think that is wrong or we are qouting the Bible wrong. Am sure they dont mean if someone rapes you welcome him again tommorrow ukiwa peke yako..., au if someone kills your child take another child for him to look after..., thats why I mean forgive as in not holding a grudge.., lakini be careful in not giving that someone another chance to hurt you... as they say
"Fool Me Once, Shame on You..., For me Twice Shame on Me"
 
Baba_Enock hajawahi kusamehe tangia atoke tumboni mwa Mama yake!

Huwa watu wanafanya unafiki tu eti "Forgive and Forget"!!! Unapomtendea mtu kosa/dhambi fahamu fika kuwa hilo jambo limeandikwa kwenye ubongo and can not be "ERASED" hata mpaka atakapokuwa anaelekea kwenye haki..

Learn not to SIN as SINNERS are unforgivable
 
Big Up VoiceOfReason.
Hapo nasapoti 100000%

VoiceOfReason said:
Hapo Lizzy wabakaji, wauwaji they are menace to Society kwahiyo they should be kept far away from community ili wasiwadhuru wengine..., I Dont Believe in Killing People Who Kill People.... Because thats makes us Killers as well..., lakini kifungo cha maisha its okay..., sio kuwakomoa tu bali kulinda Jamii...,

Now if you dont let go..., forgive... it will consume you my dear....., if one of your child is gone hili janga might change you and you might not be able to love the remaining children perfectly..., "An Eye for an Eye will make the all world Blind" ..... Gandhi.
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Bigirita said:
Hebu nikuulize dada Lizzy, katika makosa ya kwenye mahusiano, huwa una condemn then husamehi, au unacondemn na kusamehe au una samehe bila ku-condemn au hufanyi vyote?

Issue ni what precede the other.
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Kwenye mahusiano nasamehe..nimewahi na ntaendelea ila inategemea na kosa!As long as mtu hajanirobe of something irreplaceble napotezea!
 
Lizzy said:
Rev...we are commanded to do a lot of things but we don't follow through with it!If we did...we probably wouldn't need forgiveness!
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Note following can not be taken as an excuse! To me I consider the bible is a guidelines to life! in King James version both old and in new testament

  • the word forgive is mentioned 56 times
  • The word forgiven is mentioned 42 times
  • The word forgiveness is mentioned 7 times
  • The word forgiveth is mentioned 2 times
  • The word forgivenesses is mentioned 1 time
Therefore if you can not forgive then you should not expect forgiveness.
 
Lizzy said:
Kwenye mahusiano nasamehe..nimewahi na ntaendelea ila inategemea na kosa!As long as mtu hajanirobe of something irreplaceble napotezea!
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But kupotezea does not mean haujasamehe...., you can still forgive lakini ukapotezea...
 
kuna makosa yanayoleta maumivi ya muda mrefu moyoni ambayo NALAZIMIKA kusamehe.Kuna makosa yatakayokufanya uamke usiku na kubishana na usichokiona, ukienda kulala it takes you 4/6 HOURS BILA USINGIZI sasa ili kuepusha hayo mateso huwa mwishowe nalazimika kusamehe then with short time nakuwa nearly normal,

Shulen nlikuwa najipitishapitisha (stori stori )wakati wenzio wakisoma kuna ndugu flani alikuwa akinishauri nitafute ugomvi mkubwa (social BIFU) na selected individuals ili niwe na yakuwaza wakati wenzangu wakisoma

KUTOSAMEHE NI MZIGO!!!
 
marytina said:
kuna makosa yanayoleta maumivi ya muda mrefu moyoni ambayo NALAZIMIKA kusamehe.Kuna makosa yatakayokufanya uamke usiku na kubishana na usichokiona, ukienda kulala it takes you 4/6 HOURS BILA USINGIZI sasa ili kuepusha hayo mateso huwa mwishowe nalazimika kusamehe then with short time nakuwa nearly normal,

Shulen nlikuwa najipitishapitisha (stori stori )wakati wenzio wakisoma kuna ndugu flani alikuwa akinishauri nitafute ugomvi mkubwa (social BIFU) na selected individuals ili niwe na yakuwaza wakati wenzangu wakisoma

KUTOSAMEHE NI MZIGO!!!
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You have spoken my mind hasa hapo kwenye red! Be blessed

Rev Masa K
 
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