eliakeem
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- May 29, 2009
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Lol...counting the chicken before they hatch
Teh teh teh tihiii
that's known an appraisal. this's why also we apply an appropriate discounted rate and risk factor.
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Lol...counting the chicken before they hatch
1)SGR. $14B1. Taja project ambayo imekuwa financed na donations Kenya. Grants tunazopata huenda kwa sectors kama fighting HIV etc.
2. Uko na wazimu.
Kenya projects
SGR - $10 billion
Lapset - $40 billion
Roads - Over $10 billion (2500km currently under construction in different stages. Another 2500 at different stages of procurement.)
57 Dams - Over $5 billion
Energy - Many projects ongoing over $3 billion
There is a nice map here - President's Delivery Unit - Flagship Projects - National Roads Network
You can check all the roads under construction in all counties. Their lengths, cost and percentage completion.
Those are just the main ones. There is healthcare. Cancer, kidney, liver machines in all 47 county hospitals.
Airports
Sasa, leta projects za Tanzania.
Incoherence.Teh teh teh tihiii
that's known an appraisal. this's why also we applied an appropriate discounted rate and risk factor.
3) Tofauti kati ya Kenya na Tanzania ni kwamba Tanzania inatumia pesa yake wenyewe wakati Kenya inategemea kukopa, ukitegemea kukopa kawaida unapoteza Uhuru wa kujiamulia maisha yako.
1)SGR. $14B
2)LNGP. $45B
3(Uganda pipe line $4B
4)Tanzania to Uganda gas pipe line $3.9B
5)Rufiji hydroelectric dam $3.9B
Tanga cement plant $2B
Kweli unaona wewe ni ungwana ujumuishe projects ambazo zitakamilika 50 years from now?
Wapi zile projects ambazo construction yake imeanza.
Na zingine naona kwa hii list yako zinakaa private projects sio za serikali.
Be informed, Kenya haina miradi wowote ule mkubwa unaofikia $1B, hizo unazopiga ni porojo na uongo mtupu, mradi mkubwa kwa sasa Kenya ni Lamu port serikali ilitoa $500M sasa hivi hakuna pesa zingine.
Ninazungumzia mradi unaotumia pesa ya ndani, sio miradi ya kukopa na kuongoza deni la Taifa na kuuza Uhuru wa nchi.SGR sio mradi?
Alafu, unadhani hio Lamu port ni mradi wa mwaka mmoja?
The parent company of Accacia has agreed to pay. That in itself is addmition of guilt.You think $85bn sounds any better?
Acacia is a company valued at about $800 million, and has annual profits of a Kenyan bank. They were even unable to pay a $300 million fine.
It's just a case of stupid populism.
Even fining Apple $190bn is impossible.
So savaga 😰umeandika utumbo
Projects zote zilizoanza zinaenda na kukamilika kwa wakati, BRT, JKNIA imefikia 95%, May 2018 unafunguluwa rasmi, SGR unaanza kazi November 2019, Hospitali ya Mloganzila imeanza kazi this year, TAZARA Flyover imeanza kazi, nini inataka?.
Tafadhali niambie $40 ya LAPSET itatumika katika kitu gani na ni nchi gani itatoa hiyo pesa?. LAPSET died long time ago alongside with CoW.
The parent company of Accacia has agreed to pay. That in itself is addmition of guilt.
If the $190bn was just hot air, accacia would have simply closed it mines and gone or launched a case at World Trade Org for anti trust laws..and FYI.. the theft of 85bn has been going on for atleast 2 decades.
This is the reason Tz is lagging behind, you have been sufficuently answered
Hahahahaha, unachekesha wewe, hizo ulizotaja ni barabara au vipande vya barabara?, naomba utaje jumla ya urefu wa barabara zote na gharama ya pesa mnayotumia na wapi hiyo pesa inatoka.Ukimaliza hio flyover moja, miradi yenu major ya barabara inaishia hapo.
Hii ndio the major ones Kenya sasa hivi. Projects ambazo ziko na budget ya above Ksh2 billion
Under KURA (Nairobi only)
Upper Hill – Mbagathi
Upgrading of Old Nairobi road and Bishop Muge
Upgrading of Eastlands Roads Phase II
Ngong Road – Kibera – Kungu Karumba – Langata Road
Upgrading of Eastleigh Roads Phase II
Syokimau – Katani Road
Outering Road
Western Bypass
JKIA to Rironi
Waiyaki - Redhill
Lenana – Muchugia road
Mlolongo – Kware – Katani Link Road
Ngong road
Greater Eastern bypass
Construction to Bitumen Standards of Meru Bypass Roads
Under KENHA (majority over 100km each)
Loruk – Barpelo
Nuno-Modogashe
Eldoret Bypass
Kibwezi - Mutomo - Kitui
Mombasa – Mariakani
Kalobeiyei River - Nadapal
Lokitaung Junction - Kalobeiyei River
Lodwar - Lokitaung Junction
Loichangamatak - Lodwar
Kisii – Ahero –Isebania (A1) Lot 1: Isebania - Kisii
Kitale – Endebes - Suam
Chiakariga – Meru (C92)
OljoOrok - Dundori
Garsen – Lamu – Witu
Uplands - Githunguri
Nyaru - Iten
Ugunja-Nyadorera-Ruambwa
Mau Narok-Kisiriri
Busia - Malaba
Narok - Sekenani
Kisumu - Kakamega
Kakamega - Kaburengu (Webuye) New
Kisumu Boys - Mamboleo
James Gishuru- Rironi
Dualling of Athi River - Machakos Turnoff
Construction of Interchange at Kericho Jn (B1/C23)
Construction of Interchange at Ahero Jn (A1/B1)
Construction of 3 interchanges at Nakuru
Sasa, list the major road projects za Tanzania.
Ninazungumzia mradi unaotumia pesa ya ndani, sio miradi ya kukopa na kuongoza deni la Taifa na kuuza Uhuru wa nchi.
You must be ignorant, $300m was just a sort of down payment pending solution on how the company will restructure its finances to payback $190bn.Agreed to pay what? $300 million or $190 billion?
The way you talk most times shows just how brainwashed you are.
Agreeing to pay a fine does not equate to admission of guilt. If you are running a company you have to decide how to deal with a pyscho president if you want to remain in business.
Do you close down shop and lose everything or do you take a hit and recover in 3 years?
Also, shutting down does not mean the dictator will let you leave with your equipment. Supremo can easily nationalize your operation, making you lose much more than the $300 million fine.
Since you pretend to be an economist, you should know all options must be weighed.
Hahahahaha, unachekesha wewe, hizo ulizotaja ni barabara au vipande vya barabara?, naomba utaje jumla ya urefu wa barabara zote na gharama ya pesa mnayotumia na wapi hiyo pesa inatoka.
Tanzania ni kubwa Mara mbili ya Kenya, hii maana yake ni kwamba, urefu wa barabara moja ya Tanzania ni sawa na barabara mbili za Kenya.
Tanzania kwasasa ni nchi ya pili nyuma ya South Africa in Subsahara Africa katika road network za mikoani, hakuna sehemu ya nchi ambayo haijawahi kuwa connected, ninyi Kenya Northern part is cut off from the rest of the country.
Kumbuka kwa sasa mnatosheka na hio 1,500MW , kuongeza 2100MW fuse na transformer zote zitaungua.... Mwanzo kabla ya kumaliza kujenga hio dam itahitajika complete remodelling of the National grid ili muweze kupokea hio 2100MW ,For the case ya tz is just 2100mw which is easy hata kutumia ndani kwa kuzima vyanzo ambavyo ni ghali,remember hydro ndiyo cheapest of all.
You must be ignorant, $300m was just a sort of down payment pending solution on how the company will restructure its finances to payback $190bn.
JPM is not stupid, no company can write you a cheque of 190bn, they have to plan themselves and payback over years.
If Accacia/ barrick was not Guilty, they could be in WTO court right now and Tz would be facing international sanctions..