Obama's - Post Election Thread

Obama's - Post Election Thread

Much has been said about President Elect Obama's victory in the just concluded US elections.I was looking at the man's past record in regards to the continent of Africa and I believe there is reason to be optimistic knowing how this Continent has disregarded by many past US administrations. If anything at all Africa has been used and abused by these regimes and to me Obama represents a change from this and a challenge to the present African leaders to govern with responsibility and fairness.

As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Barack Obama has fought to focus America's attention on the challenges facing Africa:


  • stopping the genocide in Darfur,
  • passing legislation to promote stability in the Congo
  • to bring a war criminal to justice in Liberia,
  • mobilizing international pressure for a just government in Zimbabwe,
  • fighting corruption in Kenya,
  • demanding honesty on HIV/AIDS in South Africa,
  • developing a coherent strategy for stabilizing Somalia, and
  • travelling across the continent raising awareness for these critical issues.

BARACK OBAMA'S GENERAL VIEW ON AFRICA POLICY (SOURCE - OFFICIAL WEBSITE barackobama.com )


Barack Obama believes that strengthening weak states at risk of collapse, economic meltdown or public health crises strengthens America's security. Obama will double U.S. spending on foreign aid to $50 billion a year by 2012.

He will help developing countries invest in sustainable democracies and demand more accountability in return.

Obama will establish a $2 billion Global Education Fund to eliminate the global education deficit.

He will reduce the debt of developing nations and better coordinate trade and development policies.

Obama also will reestablish U.S. moral leadership by respecting civil liberties; ending torture; restoring habeas corpus; making electoral processes fair and transparent and fighting corruption.



Other key positions

US policy should promote democracy and human rights

In every region of the globe, our foreign policy should promote traditional American ideals: democracy and human rights; free and fair trade and cultural exchanges; and development of institutions that ensure broad middle classes within market economies.

It is our commonality of interests in the world that can ultimately restore our influence and win back the hearts and minds necessary to defeat terrorism and project American values around the globe. Human aspirations are universal-for dignity, for freedom, for the opportunity to improve the lives of our families.

Let us recognize what unites us across borders and build on the strength of this blessed country. Let us embrace our history and our legacy. Let us not only define our values in words and carry them out in deeds.

Source: Speech to Chicago Council on Foreign Relations Jul 12, 2004


Barack Obama on why he majored in international affairs in college

Q: Why did you major in international affairs?

A: Well, obviously, having lived overseas and having lived in Hawaii, having a mother who was a specialist in international development, who was one of the early practitioners of microfinancing, and would go to villages in South Asia and Africa and Southeast Asia, helping women buy a loom or a sewing machine or a milk cow, to be able to enter into the economy--it was natural for me, to be interested in international affairs.

The Vietnam War had drawn to a close when I was fairly young. And so, that wasn't formative for me in the way it was, I think, for an earlier generation.

The Cold War, though, still loomed large. And I thought that both my interest in what was then called the Third World and development there, as well as my interest in issues like nuclear proliferation and policy, that I thought that I might end up going into some sort of international work at some point in my life.

Source: CNN Late Edition: 2008 presidential series on Zakaria's GPS Jul 13, 2008


Moral obligation to intervene in Darfur to avoid spillover

Q: What about Darfur? You've called for a UN no-fly zone, but the Chinese and the Russians will probably not go along with it, so it'd be a US or NATO no-fly zone.

A: In a situation like Darfur, I think that the world has a self-interest in ensuring that genocide is not taking place on our watch. Not only because of the moral and ethical implications, but also because chaos in Sudan ends up spilling over into Chad.

It ends up spilling over into other parts of Africa, can end up being repositories of terrorist activity. Those are all things that we've got to pay attention to. And if we have enough nations that are willing--particularly African nations, and not just Western nations--that are willing to intercede in an effective, coherent way, then I think that we need to act.

Source: CNN Late Edition: 2008 presidential series on Zakaria's GPS Jul 13, 2008



Wrote 2006 law stabilizing Congo with $52M

Obama wrote the law signed in 2006 that provided $52 million in US humanitarian assistance to help stabilize the Congo, and he worked to approve $20 million for the African Union peacekeeping mission.

Obama also worked with Sam Brownback (R-Kans.), writing an op-ed in the Washington Post criticizing the Bush administration's failure to stop genocide in Darfur.

Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.160 Oct 30, 2007


Increased aid to Republic of Congo

[Obama had planned his trip to Africa since 2005]. It was abundantly clear that the atrocities of Darfur's civil war were a deep source of concern for him. Also, as a senator, Obama was successful in passing an amendment to a 2006 Iraqi spending bill that increased aid to the Republic of Congo.

The 15-day trip to Africa was organized to include visits to 5 countries, but the bulk of the journey was to be spent in South Africa and then Kenya.

After Kenya, Obama had planned brief visits to the Congo, Djibouti and the Darfur region of Sudan, site of the bloody conflict that was killing thousands of Sudanese a month and displacing millions more.

But Kenya, the homeland of his father, was the physical and emotional centerpiece of the trip. Kenyans had adopted him as one of their own, and had made him a living folk hero in the East African nation.

Source: From Promise to Power, by David Mendell, p.322-323 Aug 14, 2007



Visited largest slum in Africa, to publicize its plight

[Obama's African trip] would take us to one of the bleakest places on the planet. Kibera is recognized as the largest single slum in all of Africa, and thus in all the world.

Over 700,000 impoverished souls are packed into a tract of urban land that is just 2.5 square kilometers. Situated in the southwest quadrant of Nairobi, Kibera was first settled extensively in the 1920s by an ethnic group called Nubians.

The slum is represented in parliament by Kenya's current Prime Minister Raila Odinga, a close ally of Sen. Obama, who drew his attention to this sea of poverty.

Many residents lacked basic services, such as clean running water and plumbing. Sewage and garbage were dumped into the open; dwellings were made of canvas and tin with corrugated roofing; and some children appeared less than fully nourished.

The inhabitants, however, were positively gleeful at Obama's visit. Obama grabbed a bullhorn. "Everybody in Kibera needs the same opportunities to go to school, to start businesses, to have enough to eat, to have decent clothes," he told the residents, who madly cheered his words. "I wants to make sure everybody in America knows Kibera.

Source: From Promise to Power, by David Mendell, p.367-369 Aug 14, 2008


No-fly zone in Darfur;

Q: Darfur is the second time that the U.S. has had a chance to do something about genocide in Africa. The first came in Rwanda in 1994, when we did nothing.


OBAMA: The no-fly zone is important. Having the protective force is critical. But we have to look at Africa not just after a crisis happens; what are we doing with respect to trade opportunities with Africa? What are we doing in terms of investment in Africa?

What are we doing to pay attention to Africa consistently with respect to our foreign policy? That has been what's missing in the White House. Our long-term security is going to depend on whether we're giving children in Sudan and Zimbabwe and in Kenya the same opportunities so that they have a stake in order as opposed to violence and chaos.

Source: 2007 Democratic Primary Debate at Howard University Jun 28, 2007


U.S. funds for humanitarian aid to Darfur

The United States should raise the needed funds to ensure that the civilians in Sudan receive life saving humanitarian assistance. We should lead in contributing the lion's share of these funds so that we can convince others to give their fair share as well--the United States should support the immediate deployment of an effective international force to disarm militias, protect civilians, and facilitate delivery of humanitarian assistance in Darfur.

Source: In His Own Words, edited by Lisa Rogak, p. 26 Mar 27, 2007


Protested South African apartheid while at college

[While at college in the '80s] Obama became involved in the movement to demand that colleges divest themselves of financial interests that helped support apartheid in South Africa.

At a rally, Obama rose to speak in public for the first time: "There is a struggle going on. It is happening an ocean away. But it is a struggle that touches each and every one of us... a struggle that demands we choose sides. Not between black & white. Not between rich & poor. No, it is a choice between dignity & servitude. Between fairness & injustice. Between commitment & indifference. A choice between right & wrong."

By prearrangement, he was dragged off by students dressed as soldiers to dramatize the lack of rights in South Africa. He did not want to give up the microphone. The audience was "clapping and cheering, and I knew that I had them, that the connection had been made. I really wanted to stay up there, to hear my voice bouncing off the crowd and returning back to me in applause. I had so much left to say.

Source: Hopes and Dreams, by Steve Dougherty, p. 58-59 Feb 15, 2007

Focus on corruption to improve African development

During Obama's trip to Kenya, at an Aug. 28 2006 speech in Nairobi, he stung some Kenyan officials enough that they sent Obama a scathing official complaint, because Obama pointedly encouraged Kenyan officials to do more to fight corruption:

Like many nations across this continent, where Kenya is failing is in its ability to create a government that is transparent and accountable One that serves its people and is free from corruption. The reason I speak of the freedom you fought so hard to win is because today that freedom is in jeopardy. It is being threatened by corruption.

Corruption is not a new problem. It's not just a Kenyan problem, or an African problem. It's a human problem, and it has existed in some form in almost every society. My own city of Chicago has been the home of some of the most corrupt local politics in American history. But while corruption is a problem we all share, here in Kenya it is a crisis that's robbing an honest people of opportunities.


Source: Should Barack Obama Be President?, by Fred Zimmerman, p.29 Oct 17, 2006


Social Issues

Visited Kisumu, Kenya in 2006; encouraged HIV testing & research, the Senator and his wife Michelle were both tested.


Attended a ceremony for the 200 people who died in the 1988 bombing of the US Embassy.

Encouraged the South African government to respond more effectively to HIV.

Urged Kenya's government to end corruption.

Along with his wife, took a public HIV test.

Visited a malaria research institute.

Visited a program helping children orphaned by AIDS.

Visited his grandmother at Kogelo.

Source: Should Barack Obama be President, by F. Zimmerman, p. 27-28 Oct 17, 2006


Obama's sponsorship of bill on Congo.

SPONSOR'S INTRODUCTORY REMARKS: Sen. OBAMA: There is a country embroiled in conflict that has not yet received the high-level attention or resources it needs. It's the Democratic Republic of Congo, and right now it is in the midst of a humanitarian catastrophe.

31,000 people are dying in the Congo each month and 3.8 million people have died in the previous 6 years. The country, which is the size of Western Europe, lies at the geographic heart of Africa and borders every major region across the continent. If left untended, Congo's tragedy will continue to infect Africa.

I believe that the United States can make a profound difference in this crisis. According to international aid agencies, there are innumerable cost-effective interventions that could be quickly undertaken--such as the provision of basic medical care, immunization and clean water--that could save thousands of lives. On the political front, sustained U.S. leadership could fill a perilous vacuum.

EXCERPTS OF BILL:

LEGISLATIVE OUTCOME:Became Public Law No. 109-456

Source: Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act (S.2125) 05-S2125 on Dec 16, 2005




Implement Darfur Peace Agreement with UN peacekeeping force.

Obama co-sponsored implementing Darfur Peace Agreement with UN peacekeeping force

A resolution calling for peace in Darfur.

Calls upon the government of Sudan and other signatories and non-signatories to the May 5, 2006, Darfur Peace Agreement to cease hostilities.

Calls upon the government of Sudan to facilitate the deployment of the United Nations-African Union peacekeeping force, including any non-African peacekeepers.

Urges all invited individuals and movements to attend the next round of peace negotiations without preconditions.

Condemns: (1) intimidation or threats against camp or civil society leaders to discourage them from attending the peace talks; and (2) actions by any party that undermines the Darfur peace process.


Calls upon all parties to the Comprehensive Peace Agreement to support all terms of the agreement.

Legislative Outcome: Resolution agreed to in Senate, by Unanimous Consent.

Source: S.RES.455 08-SR455 on Feb 14, 2008


Sanction Mugabe until Zimbabwe transitions to democracy.


Obama co-sponsored sanctioning Mugabe until Zimbabwe transitions to democracy

A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate regarding the political situation in Zimbabwe. Expresses the sense of the Senate:supporting the people of Zimbabwe;

that the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission should immediately release the legitimate results of the presidential election and ratify the previously announced results of the parliamentary elections;

that President Robert Mugabe should accept the will of the people of Zimbabwe in order to effect a timely and peaceful transition to democratic rule;

that the U.S. government and the international community should impose targeted sanctions against individuals in the government of Zimbabwe and state security services and militias who are responsible for human rights abuses and election interference;

that the U.S. government and the international community should work together to prepare an economic and political recovery package for Zimbabwe;
that regional organizations should play an active role in resolving the crisis; and

that the U.N. Security Council should support efforts to bring about a peaceful resolution of the crisis and impose an international arms embargo on Zimbabwe until a legitimate democratic government has taken power.
 
Stop ad-hominem attacks and address the issues raised by Limbaugh. Ad-hominem attacks against Rush Limbaugh and the name calling means you can't refute what he said. If you say discredit Rush for using drugs then wouldn't you have to discredit your boy Obantu for admitting using illegal drugs? I have reason to believe what Rush Limbaugh is true due to past Obantu's behavior and what has been written about him.

Grow up man...the election has ended and the best run campaign has won. This is a civilized part of the world and here we don't go to exile to look for unconstitutional ways to "rid" the president elect. If you don't like him..bite it..he's won big. Put aside your witchcraft...the best way for you and your right wing thugs (Rush and Sean Hannity and all white supremacists) is not to smear the new President..but to learn how the country has overcome the politics of fear mongering and to stop all the racists tones. Once you learn that, and once you learn to better organize your campaign you may have a better shot of making the 2012 election results look somewhat "respectable". Otherwise the GOP brand will keep dying slowly from its own cancer.
By the way...Are you the same person who said Latinos ain't voting Obama? What the hell happen in NM, CO, CA, FL,??? Quit drinking that "Limbaugh rade"
 
Wewe dizaini utakuwa Mkenya wewe....

And what is Africa's policy on Africa? Does anybody know?
 
Wewe dizaini utakuwa Mkenya wewe....

And what is Africa's policy on Africa? Does anybody know?

Nyani,

Africa is not focused on policies, rather it is focused on personalities.

That is why everyday you will hear more about "Kikwete this" "Mrema that" "Mbeki this" "Mugabe that" than "policy this" "trade that" etc...
 
Ab-Titchaz,
You have done a great service to JF by compiling this info on Obama. Godbless!
 
Wewe dizaini utakuwa Mkenya wewe....

And what is Africa's policy on Africa? Does anybody know?


Nyani,

Of all points raised in the article this is the best you could come up with?

Obama's affiliation to Kenya should go to show you that the man had an affinity to the Continent and not just Kenya per se.Corruption abounds everywhere on the Continent and President-Elect Obama spoke about it even while he was a Senator from Illinois. Now by virtue of being the President of the US, the fight against corruption in will gain more traction.

In regards to the "Obama/Wakenya issue" I believe it is being overblown by individuals for whatever reasons.The Kenyans that I know, have no ground breaking expectations by Obama to bring food to their table and they will continue working as hard as they had been doing even before Obama was elected president.

This notion that some communities believe that the son of one of them is their son is neither here nor there. Obama is very proud of his Kenyan heritage, thank god and that is the end of the story.This idea of people waiting for Obama to help them fits very well with the narrative of "Lazy Kenyans just sitting around waiting for handouts". It is tiresome and boring.

Kenyans celebrated as did the world all over about the Obama victory.They took it a notch higher simply because they felt a sense of pride in someone who had come and lived amongst them in their mud thatch roofed huts and gone to the market carrying 'magunias'...oblivious of the fact that one day he would be the President of the USA...that is where the bond is.

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Much has been said about President Elect Obama's victory in the just concluded US elections.I was looking at the man's past record in regards to the continent of Africa and I believe there is reason to be optimistic knowing how this Continent has disregarded by many past US administrations. If anything at all Africa has been used and abused by these regimes and to me Obama represents a change from this and a challenge to the present African leaders to govern with responsibility and fairness.

As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Barack Obama has fought to focus America's attention on the challenges facing Africa:


  • stopping the genocide in Darfur,
  • passing legislation to promote stability in the Congo
  • to bring a war criminal to justice in Liberia,
  • mobilizing international pressure for a just government in Zimbabwe,
  • fighting corruption in Kenya,
  • demanding honesty on HIV/AIDS in South Africa,
  • developing a coherent strategy for stabilizing Somalia, and
  • travelling across the continent raising awareness for these critical issues.

The above list is how Obantu was finding himself. You have to remember Obantu's background. His mother was lily white and he looked nothing like his mother. His father abandoned him and he never knew him. Being a biracial child growing up in White society Obantu was confused and has always tried to find himself. I doubt he has genuine interest for Africa. Just look at how fast he threw his aunt under the bus for political expedience or how he never helped his brother.
 
I mean, let's face it, we didn't have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I'm not saying we should bring it back; I'm just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark. -Rush

You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.-Rush

Your friend has absolutelt ZERO credibility!! What exactly did he say? Two people took different planes so its Creepy? What is he talking about?
He must be on his happy pills again. And therre is a huge difference btwn experimenting with drugs and actually being an addict! So find another role model, you cheapen yourself by quoting this ignorant bigot.

Rush Limbaugh has just as much credibility as Obantu. Didn't OBantu say he never heard Rev. Wright hateful sermons in the 20 years he attended his church? How is that for credibility? Obantu is just a weird guy so I wouldn't put flying on a different plane from his family past him.
 
Dear Brother The Truth,

For a minute I thought we have lost you. But I know realize that you are emerging like Sarah Palin and not John McCain taking refuge in Alaska perhaps.

I hope we will have same constructive debate in 2012! Tell Nyani Ngabu I am still waiting for my Cognac Kavwasiye!

Hopefully Bobby Jindal, the man with proven leadership qualities (unlike Obantu, a community organizer) will run in 2012. I hope you have been watching how he handled the hurricane crisis last summer in his state and how he will continue to show leadership in the future. Can you imagine if Obantu was the governor during hurricane? It would have been disastrous just like it was with that New Orleans mayor, Ray Nagin.
 

By the way...Are you the same person who said Latinos ain't voting Obama? What the hell happen in NM, CO, CA, FL,???


Yep, I was but guess why they voted for him? They believed he will be more liberal on immigration and he will be. But guess what, when Latinos become the majority in America, blacks will be in for a rude awakening. I have asked this question before, name me one Latin country in the world where blacks aren't the underclass? Especially South and Central America Latinos, they are not too fond of blacks. So you better invest that welfare...sorry I mean stimulus check Obantu will send you back in your home country because as soon as Latinos become the majority in America ....
 
Bradley effect actually manifested but it was overshadowed by non-white votes. America is changing demographically. Although Bantus are celebrating Obantu's win in a " we've stuck it to the White man" manner, it will be them that they will end up hurting. Think about it this way, Latinos will become a majority in the US and if you look at any latin country on this earth, Bantus are usually the underclass e.g. Cuba, Colombia, Brazil etc. Latinos will do this to Bantus when they become the majority in America. Second, when Bantus take power, the situation tends to get worse for Bantus. There will be few Obantu cronies that will benefit similar to when Mandela took over South Africa. His ANC cronies got wealthy but the rest of the population didn't fair any better. The country went south economically. So only time will tell about Obantu, but if history is any indication I wouldn't be celebrating if I were you. I would sit down and weep...

I like your racist approach. But sire are you telling me Bush was better for obantus than Obama will. I am not sure whether Obama's presidency is a problem because of his color or what. I do not know where you are getting at. Obama himself and clever Americans called it silly season of politics. Give him a chance and see if America and obantus in US will be worse than now. I am sure he will prove you wrong. You can not compare Mandela and Obama, or US and SA, damn wrong.
 
The above list is how Obantu was finding himself. You have to remember Obantu's background. His mother was lily white and he looked nothing like his mother. His father abandoned him and he never knew him. Being a biracial child growing up in White society Obantu was confused and has always tried to find himself. I doubt he has genuine interest for Africa. Just look at how fast he threw his aunt under the bus for political expedience or how he never helped his brother.

Go back to Punjab you moron!
 
Obama hawezi kumaliza rushwa Kenya, bali serikali ya Kenya na wananchi wake ndio wanaweza kuitokomeza kwa kiasi fulani....Nishachoka na hizi habari za nchi zetu za Afrika kutegemea kusaidiwa na mataifa ya magharibi argh!!!!.
 
Hopefully Bobby Jindal, the man with proven leadership qualities (unlike Obantu, a community organizer) will run in 2012. I hope you have been watching how he handled the hurricane crisis last summer in his state and how he will continue to show leadership in the future. Can you imagine if Obantu was the governor during hurricane? It would have been disastrous just like it was with that New Orleans mayor, Ray Nagin.

And where the fX^K was your LAME DUCK PRESIDENT? So cause Obama is black your shallow and racists assumptions suggest that he would have been incompetent as a governor...uuh ? You are a freaking racist..there's no place for people like you here..you better go to the woods of Kentucky.
 
Wewe The Truth wacha porojo kama Nagin angekuwa ameharibu asingekuwa re-elected...wacha kuleta ubaguzi.

Two sources close to the Obama transition team tell CNN that Senator Hillary Clinton’s name has been mentioned as a possible candidate for Secretary of State.

One source close to Hillary Clinton tells CNN that as of early yesterday, Senator Clinton had not been contacted by the transition team about a possible cabinet appointment. This same source tells CNN that Senator Clinton would not necessarily dismiss such an offer.

A spokesman for Hillary Clinton, Philippe Reines, tells CNN “Any speculation about cabinet or other administration appointments is really for President-Elect Obama's transition team to address.”

On Monday night, while walking into an awards ceremony in New York, Senator Clinton was asked if she would consider taking a post in the Obama administration. She replied, "I am happy being a Senator from New York, I love this state and this city. I am looking at the long list of things I have to catch up on and do. But I want to be a good partner and I want to do everything I can to make sure his agenda is going to be successful."
 
Priest says it's because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion

COLUMBIA, S.C. - A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."

The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.

"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.

"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exits constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."

Risking their immortal soul
During the 2008 presidential campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.

But bishops differ on whether Catholic lawmakers - and voters - should refrain from receiving Communion if they diverge from church teaching on abortion. Each bishop sets policy in his own diocese. In their annual fall meeting, the nation's Catholic bishops vowed Tuesday to forcefully confront the Obama administration over its support for abortion rights.

According to national exit polls, 54 percent of Catholics chose Obama, who is Protestant. In South Carolina, which McCain carried, voters in Greenville County - traditionally seen as among the state's most conservative areas - went 61 percent for the Republican, and 37 percent for Obama.

"It was not an attempt to make a partisan point," Newman said in a telephone interview Thursday. "In fact, in this election, for the sake of argument, if the Republican candidate had been pro-abortion, and the Democratic candidate had been pro-life, everything that I wrote would have been exactly the same."

Conservative Catholics criticized Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004 for supporting abortion rights, with a few Catholic bishops saying Kerry should refrain from receiving Holy Communion because his views were contrary to church teachings.

Some say move is too extreme
Sister Mary Ann Walsh, spokeswoman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said she had not heard of other churches taking this position in reaction to Obama's win. A Boston-based group that supports Catholic Democrats questioned the move, saying it was too extreme.

"Father Newman is off-base," said Steve Krueger, national director of Catholic Democrats. "He is acting beyond the authority of a parish priest to say what he did. ... Unfortunately, he is doing so in a manner that will be of great cost to those parishioners who did vote for Sens. Obama and Biden. There will be a spiritual cost to them for his words."

A man who has attended St. Mary's for 18 years said he welcomed Newman's message and anticipated it would inspire further discussion at the church.

"I don't understand anyone who would call themselves a Christian, let alone a Catholic, and could vote for someone who's a pro-abortion candidate," said Ted Kelly, 64, who volunteers his time as lector for the church. "You're talking about the murder of innocent beings."
 
The above list is how Obantu was finding himself. You have to remember Obantu's background. His mother was lily white and he looked nothing like his mother. His father abandoned him and he never knew him. Being a biracial child growing up in White society Obantu was confused and has always tried to find himself. I doubt he has genuine interest for Africa. Just look at how fast he threw his aunt under the bus for political expedience or how he never helped his brother.

One thing I will grant you is the ability to come and defecate on this forum
with undertones that are truly condescending.

Prior to the nominations we were told Obama could not beat Hillary Clinton and her machinery...yet he did.Then we were told by the likes of you that Obama could not win Pennsylvania nor Ohio because he didn't pick Hillary as VP...yet the man did.So my point is that any assumptions you make about President Elect Obama, end up being just assumptions.

The mind set of the people you so much want to degrade with your comments has changed and people are independent thinkers so to speak.This notion of trying to act like you know Obama's mind can be thrown to the dungeons of the forgotten.We are rooting for the man to put out his agenda once he assumes office and rectify the wrong that Bush has done to the whole world
with his knee-jerk, selfish policies that favor a few.

Meanwhile my advice to you and your people is to take note of the fact that hating on people of the Negro ancestry is a played out stigma. The corrupt activities of Asian businessmen in cahoot with unscrupulous African leaders have siphoned East Africa of billions of shillings that would have gone a long way in strengthening infrastructure that would benefit the common mwananchi. The time is coming when fairness will be affirmed amongst our people and the playing field will be evened out in terms of accountability.
 
Kama Obama atamteua mama Clinton kuwa sec of state nina wasiwasi na sera ya "kuongea na maadui" kama itafanikiwa. kumbuka mama alikuwa anapinga kwa nguvu mno Raisi wa marekani kuongea na viongozi kama Ahmednejad, au Chavez, sasa sijui itakuwaje pale raisi na sec of state wanapokuwa na falsafa tofauti juu ya kudili na ishu kama hii. je mama akitumwa na Obama akaongee na viongozi hao atatii na kufanya kazi kwa moyo mkunjufu?.

hii nafasi kwa nini asimpe mmoja wa washauri wake wa masuala ya kimataifa?. anyway ngoja tusubiri tuone,
 
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