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Kang
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Mhh well aparently our "friend" McCain failed to do that. so he is even less capable than a child? I guess its true, the older you get the more you become like a baby, people have to start taking care of you all over again.
OBAMA!!!!
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For what position.....lead cheerleader?
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Obama's Attorney General
By Michael Isikoff
Newsweek
Posted Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:57 PM
President-elect Obama has decided to tap Eric Holder as his attorney general, putting the veteran Washington lawyer in place to become the first African-American to head the Justice Department, according to two legal sources close to the presidential transition.
Holder, who served as deputy attorney general during the Clinton administration, still has to undergo a formal vetting review by the Obama transition team before the selection is final and is publicly announced, said one of the sources, who asked not to be identified talking about the transition process. But in the discussions over the past few days, Obama offered Holder the job and he accepted, the source said. The announcement is not likely until after Obama announces his choices to lead the Treasury and State departments.
Holder, 57, has been on Obamas short list for attorney general from the outset. A partner at the D.C. law firm of Covington & Burling, Holder served as co-chief (along with Caroline Kennedy) of Obamas vice-presidential selection process. He also actively campaigned for Obama throughout the year and grew personally close to the president-elect. Holder has not returned a call seeking comment; the Obama transition team did not respond to e-mail messages.
The sources said the Obama transition team is still debating over who should serve under Holder in the key post of deputy attorney general. One top candidate, favored by Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and other former Clinton White House officials, is Elena Kagan, dean of the Harvard Law School and a former lawyer in the White House counsels office under Clinton. Another top candidate, favored by other Obama advisors, is David Ogden, a former chief of staff to Attorney General Janet Reno, who is currently heading Obamas Justice Department transition team. Kagan brings legal policy credentials; Ogden has more experience in the Justice Department trenches.
The only hesitancy about Holders selection was that he himself had reservations about going through a confirmation process that was likely to revive questions about his role in signing off on the controversial pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich. Although there is no evidence that Holder actively pushed the pardon, he was criticized for not raising with the White House the strong objections that some Justice Department lawyers and federal prosecutors in New York had to pardoning somebody who had fled the country. But after reviewing the evidence in the case, and checking with staffers on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Obama aides and Holder both decided the issue was highly unlikely to prove an obstacle to his confirmation, one of the sources said--especially given the Democrats more sizable post-election majority in the Senate.
A New York City native who graduated from Columbia University and Columbia Law School, Holder spent years as a federal prosecutora job in which he earned a reputation as tough and aggressive foe of public corruption. After serving in the pubic integrity section of the Justice Departments Criminal Division and later a District of Columbia Superior Court judge, Holder was named by President Clinton as U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. He became deputy attorney general in 1997 under Janet Reno and was viewed as a centrist on most law enforcement issues, though he has sharply criticized the secrecy and the expansive views of executive power advanced by the Bush Justice Department.
By Michael Isikoff
Newsweek
Posted Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:57 PM
President-elect Obama has decided to tap Eric Holder as his attorney general, putting the veteran Washington lawyer in place to become the first African-American to head the Justice Department, according to two legal sources close to the presidential transition.
Holder, who served as deputy attorney general during the Clinton administration, still has to undergo a formal vetting review by the Obama transition team before the selection is final and is publicly announced, said one of the sources, who asked not to be identified talking about the transition process. But in the discussions over the past few days, Obama offered Holder the job and he accepted, the source said. The announcement is not likely until after Obama announces his choices to lead the Treasury and State departments.
Holder, 57, has been on Obamas short list for attorney general from the outset. A partner at the D.C. law firm of Covington & Burling, Holder served as co-chief (along with Caroline Kennedy) of Obamas vice-presidential selection process. He also actively campaigned for Obama throughout the year and grew personally close to the president-elect. Holder has not returned a call seeking comment; the Obama transition team did not respond to e-mail messages.
The sources said the Obama transition team is still debating over who should serve under Holder in the key post of deputy attorney general. One top candidate, favored by Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and other former Clinton White House officials, is Elena Kagan, dean of the Harvard Law School and a former lawyer in the White House counsels office under Clinton. Another top candidate, favored by other Obama advisors, is David Ogden, a former chief of staff to Attorney General Janet Reno, who is currently heading Obamas Justice Department transition team. Kagan brings legal policy credentials; Ogden has more experience in the Justice Department trenches.
The only hesitancy about Holders selection was that he himself had reservations about going through a confirmation process that was likely to revive questions about his role in signing off on the controversial pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich. Although there is no evidence that Holder actively pushed the pardon, he was criticized for not raising with the White House the strong objections that some Justice Department lawyers and federal prosecutors in New York had to pardoning somebody who had fled the country. But after reviewing the evidence in the case, and checking with staffers on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Obama aides and Holder both decided the issue was highly unlikely to prove an obstacle to his confirmation, one of the sources said--especially given the Democrats more sizable post-election majority in the Senate.
A New York City native who graduated from Columbia University and Columbia Law School, Holder spent years as a federal prosecutora job in which he earned a reputation as tough and aggressive foe of public corruption. After serving in the pubic integrity section of the Justice Departments Criminal Division and later a District of Columbia Superior Court judge, Holder was named by President Clinton as U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. He became deputy attorney general in 1997 under Janet Reno and was viewed as a centrist on most law enforcement issues, though he has sharply criticized the secrecy and the expansive views of executive power advanced by the Bush Justice Department.
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Thought this was an interesting article!!! A long one though!
BARACK OBAMA AND THE GRAVEYARD OF HOPE
WAMBUI MWANGI (2008-08-11)
--------------------------------------------------
I am finding it very difficult to join in the jubilation about Senator
Barack Obama. Not that I want to deny the man his victory, but my
impulse to celebrate keeps deflating on the idea that the best thing
that happened to little Barack was not growing up in Kenya .
I have been imagining alternative trajectories for him if he had come to
know the world through the eyes of a Kenyan citizen, if his mother and
grandparents had not rescued him from our chaos and contradictions and
brought him up somewhere his intellect and talent could grow.
If he had grown up here, and had he somehow managed to retain most
elements of his current self, he would have been another outstanding,
intelligent and competent Luo man in our midst: and he would have been
killed.
Yes, we would have assassinated a Barack Obama if he had remained ours,
with us, one of us here in this schizophrenic cauldron we call home.
This is not going to stretch the imagination of any Kenyan - after all,
when we had that incredibly good-looking and charismatic home-grown
hero, Tom Mboya, we shot him to death. And when that austerely
intellectual and elegant leader, Robert Ouko, threatened to look overly
intelligent to the world, we killed him too. We killed Pio Gama Pinto
and we killed JM Kariuki. There is no reason to suppose that Barack
Obama, whose integrity of purpose and stringent sense of ethics even his
enemies concede, would have survived his Kenyan roots.
He is much too intelligent, too charged with the promise of history, too
bold in his claim to a shining destiny, too full of the audacity of
hope, for us to have let him survive. Kenya would have killed Barack
Obama, or at least his dream, as we inevitably destroy, in one way or
another, the best and the boldest of us. Goldenberg whistle blower David
Munyakei's challenge to his country to be bigger than our greed was met
with a whimper, and then with rapid abandonment. We did not deserve him,
either.
As for John Githongo, he should have known better than to take the idea
of public ethics seriously - this is Kenya, after all. Let him enlighten
people at Oxford instead; such considerations are too virtuous for us,
too sensible, too conducive to a promising future. We do not even remark
on the haunting wastage of all this shining accomplishment - Micere Mugo
sings her lyrical poetry for Americans, and we do not even know enough
to mourn the loss.
And yet we are all enchanted with the power of the idea of Barack Obama,
the hope of him, the beauty of his life's trajectory, the universe of
possibilities and probabilities that it conjures for the least of the
rest of us. If someone's cousin's friend's neighbour makes it to the
United States ... then we all have a chance. We have a strange
predilection for schizophrenic loves and loyalties; we let geography
dictate our alliances and imaginary lines decide our friends. It is as
if our social contract states that here, at home, we are obliged to
behave like fighting rats to each other but when abroad, when released
from the shackles of kin and clan and conclave, we can fly and soar and
master the sky.
When Wangari Maathai is abroad, we feel that her Nobel Prize is partly
represented in each of our Kenyan living rooms; when she comes home, she
is just another Kikuyu politico. We preen about our athletes winning yet
another international competition to anybody who will give us half a
chance, but when they are at home we turn them into more fodder for
militias.
Caine Prize winners are Kenyan by automatic assent, but Binyavanga
Wainaina is a Kikuyu writer when at home and Yvonne Owuor is indelibly a
Luo - we shrink them to fit the midget-sized visions we have of
ourselves.
It is clear to all of us, and the evidence continues to accrue, that we
have, collectively, a certain global competence, as Kenyans, that we
produce individuals of substance and historical purpose.
Being Kenyan, however, we prefer to drown in the pettiness of our
parochial quarrels when at home, and if one of us threatens to be too
hopeful, too ambitious, too intelligent, too creative or too
inspirational to fit into our trivial little categories of hatred and
suspicion, we kill them, or exile them from our societies, or we just
cause them to run away inside, hiding from us and from themselves the
grandeur of their souls, the splendid landscapes of their imagined
tomorrows.
Nothing but the worst for us, at home. We recognise each other by our
most rancid rhetoric. We insist upon it, we cultivate it, we elevate it
to an art
form: Kenyan, and quarrelsome.
Kenyan, and clannish... Kenyan, and counter-productive. Kenyan, and
self-destructive. Kenyan, and consistently heart-breaking. Genius
everywhere and not a thought to be had. Promise and potential
everywhere, and not an opportunity to be had. Money everywhere and not
an honest penny to be earned. Helicopters aplenty, but no help for the
needy. A land awash in Cabinet ministers and poverty.
I have been watching Kenyans getting high on Obamamania, and I am
wondering what we are so happy about? It is perhaps that we are
beginning to acknowledge what we should always have known - given a half
a chance, an ever so slightly conducive context, Kenyans are more likely
to over-achieve than not. At the faintest provocation, Kenyans will leap
past expectations without breaking their stride or breaking a sweat,
especially if they happen to have escaped the imprisoning edifice we
call home and found foreign contexts to flourish in, no matter how
alien.
I went to a town in the Canadian Arctic once, in the far north, where in
summer the sun shines even at midnight and in the winter the world is an
endless landscape of ice and snow. Here, far, far away from home, where
nothing was familiar except the gentleness of elderly Inuit women and
the comforting weirdness of the white residents, I was told that the
local dentist had, for many years, been a Kenyan. Everybody said he had
been an excellent dentist, out there in the desert of the cold. I was
unsurprised.
We are an adventurous people, we Kenyans, and we take to the world
outside our home as if born to a conquistador culture - we are brave and
brash and bold, out there. We buy and sell things, and make money at it,
out there. We go to school and excel and cover ourselves with
accreditations, out there.
We win things, out there. We get prizes, out there. We are at our best,
out there.
However, at home, for some reason we refuse to either acknowledge or
examine
- we have chosen simply to set aside this capacity. Here, at home,
nothing but the very lowest common denominator will do; nothing but the
basest and most brutal aspects of our selves are to be presented to each
other; nothing but the most cynical manipulation is the basis of our
political space. We prefer to be ruled by individuals whose mediocrity
is matched only by their mendacity, here at home.
We prefer to abdicate our adult responsibilities and capacity for reason
to "leaders" whose lack of virtue is as legendary as our attractively
exotic pastoralists. We do not only waste talent, here at home - we go
out of our way to suppress and repress it. We do not only deny dreams,
here in Kenya - we devour them, and ask each other, "Who do you think
you are?" As if the success of another is an affront.
In Kenya , grand vision and soaring imagination is illegitimate; here,
they just call you naive. Out there, you stand a chance of becoming a
hero; at home, you will have nothing but the taste of ashes in your
mouth. Mothers, take your children abroad.
Barack Obama has written two books, in which he discusses ideas. Ideas.
This is a man with vision and conviction, and enough good ideas that
even those who do not like the pigmentally-advantaged are listening, and
changing their minds.
Even those who think that his name sounds suspiciously like a
terrorist's are reading his books and listening to his speeches, and
changing their minds. This is a man with interesting and inspiring
things to say - which disqualifies him from any Kenyan-ness we would
have liked to claim.
Americans like the image of them that Barack Obama has painted in words;
which Kenyan leader would dare to build dreams bigger than his roots?
Which Kenyan leader would ever be so foolish as to attempt inspiration
instead of instigation?
Barack Obama has seduced the world by the power of his persuasiveness,
and while Kenyans raise another glass to the accomplishments of "one of
our own," it seems clear to me that we gave up our rights to him when we
gave up our hopes for ourselves. When we settled for incompetence, and
corruption, and callousness, we defined ourselves out of his universe,
and out of his dreams.
We rejected Barack Obama-ness when we allowed those pangas to slash our
dreams, when we watched our hopes spiral away in smoke. We allowed the
ones who had done this to become the only mirrors of ourselves, and then
squelched our disgraced selves back to the mire of our despondency.
Barack Obama cannot be a Kenyan, and Kenyans cannot grasp Barack Obama's
dream. We have already despaired of it, and of ourselves. His dream
would have died with ours, here at home, here in the graveyard of hope.
But oh, how we yearn to see ourselves reflected in his eyes...
*Wambui Mwangi is an assistant professor of Political Science at the
University of Toronto, Canada. This article first appeared in The East
African, June 15 2008.
BARACK OBAMA AND THE GRAVEYARD OF HOPE
WAMBUI MWANGI (2008-08-11)
--------------------------------------------------
I am finding it very difficult to join in the jubilation about Senator
Barack Obama. Not that I want to deny the man his victory, but my
impulse to celebrate keeps deflating on the idea that the best thing
that happened to little Barack was not growing up in Kenya .
I have been imagining alternative trajectories for him if he had come to
know the world through the eyes of a Kenyan citizen, if his mother and
grandparents had not rescued him from our chaos and contradictions and
brought him up somewhere his intellect and talent could grow.
If he had grown up here, and had he somehow managed to retain most
elements of his current self, he would have been another outstanding,
intelligent and competent Luo man in our midst: and he would have been
killed.
Yes, we would have assassinated a Barack Obama if he had remained ours,
with us, one of us here in this schizophrenic cauldron we call home.
This is not going to stretch the imagination of any Kenyan - after all,
when we had that incredibly good-looking and charismatic home-grown
hero, Tom Mboya, we shot him to death. And when that austerely
intellectual and elegant leader, Robert Ouko, threatened to look overly
intelligent to the world, we killed him too. We killed Pio Gama Pinto
and we killed JM Kariuki. There is no reason to suppose that Barack
Obama, whose integrity of purpose and stringent sense of ethics even his
enemies concede, would have survived his Kenyan roots.
He is much too intelligent, too charged with the promise of history, too
bold in his claim to a shining destiny, too full of the audacity of
hope, for us to have let him survive. Kenya would have killed Barack
Obama, or at least his dream, as we inevitably destroy, in one way or
another, the best and the boldest of us. Goldenberg whistle blower David
Munyakei's challenge to his country to be bigger than our greed was met
with a whimper, and then with rapid abandonment. We did not deserve him,
either.
As for John Githongo, he should have known better than to take the idea
of public ethics seriously - this is Kenya, after all. Let him enlighten
people at Oxford instead; such considerations are too virtuous for us,
too sensible, too conducive to a promising future. We do not even remark
on the haunting wastage of all this shining accomplishment - Micere Mugo
sings her lyrical poetry for Americans, and we do not even know enough
to mourn the loss.
And yet we are all enchanted with the power of the idea of Barack Obama,
the hope of him, the beauty of his life's trajectory, the universe of
possibilities and probabilities that it conjures for the least of the
rest of us. If someone's cousin's friend's neighbour makes it to the
United States ... then we all have a chance. We have a strange
predilection for schizophrenic loves and loyalties; we let geography
dictate our alliances and imaginary lines decide our friends. It is as
if our social contract states that here, at home, we are obliged to
behave like fighting rats to each other but when abroad, when released
from the shackles of kin and clan and conclave, we can fly and soar and
master the sky.
When Wangari Maathai is abroad, we feel that her Nobel Prize is partly
represented in each of our Kenyan living rooms; when she comes home, she
is just another Kikuyu politico. We preen about our athletes winning yet
another international competition to anybody who will give us half a
chance, but when they are at home we turn them into more fodder for
militias.
Caine Prize winners are Kenyan by automatic assent, but Binyavanga
Wainaina is a Kikuyu writer when at home and Yvonne Owuor is indelibly a
Luo - we shrink them to fit the midget-sized visions we have of
ourselves.
It is clear to all of us, and the evidence continues to accrue, that we
have, collectively, a certain global competence, as Kenyans, that we
produce individuals of substance and historical purpose.
Being Kenyan, however, we prefer to drown in the pettiness of our
parochial quarrels when at home, and if one of us threatens to be too
hopeful, too ambitious, too intelligent, too creative or too
inspirational to fit into our trivial little categories of hatred and
suspicion, we kill them, or exile them from our societies, or we just
cause them to run away inside, hiding from us and from themselves the
grandeur of their souls, the splendid landscapes of their imagined
tomorrows.
Nothing but the worst for us, at home. We recognise each other by our
most rancid rhetoric. We insist upon it, we cultivate it, we elevate it
to an art
form: Kenyan, and quarrelsome.
Kenyan, and clannish... Kenyan, and counter-productive. Kenyan, and
self-destructive. Kenyan, and consistently heart-breaking. Genius
everywhere and not a thought to be had. Promise and potential
everywhere, and not an opportunity to be had. Money everywhere and not
an honest penny to be earned. Helicopters aplenty, but no help for the
needy. A land awash in Cabinet ministers and poverty.
I have been watching Kenyans getting high on Obamamania, and I am
wondering what we are so happy about? It is perhaps that we are
beginning to acknowledge what we should always have known - given a half
a chance, an ever so slightly conducive context, Kenyans are more likely
to over-achieve than not. At the faintest provocation, Kenyans will leap
past expectations without breaking their stride or breaking a sweat,
especially if they happen to have escaped the imprisoning edifice we
call home and found foreign contexts to flourish in, no matter how
alien.
I went to a town in the Canadian Arctic once, in the far north, where in
summer the sun shines even at midnight and in the winter the world is an
endless landscape of ice and snow. Here, far, far away from home, where
nothing was familiar except the gentleness of elderly Inuit women and
the comforting weirdness of the white residents, I was told that the
local dentist had, for many years, been a Kenyan. Everybody said he had
been an excellent dentist, out there in the desert of the cold. I was
unsurprised.
We are an adventurous people, we Kenyans, and we take to the world
outside our home as if born to a conquistador culture - we are brave and
brash and bold, out there. We buy and sell things, and make money at it,
out there. We go to school and excel and cover ourselves with
accreditations, out there.
We win things, out there. We get prizes, out there. We are at our best,
out there.
However, at home, for some reason we refuse to either acknowledge or
examine
- we have chosen simply to set aside this capacity. Here, at home,
nothing but the very lowest common denominator will do; nothing but the
basest and most brutal aspects of our selves are to be presented to each
other; nothing but the most cynical manipulation is the basis of our
political space. We prefer to be ruled by individuals whose mediocrity
is matched only by their mendacity, here at home.
We prefer to abdicate our adult responsibilities and capacity for reason
to "leaders" whose lack of virtue is as legendary as our attractively
exotic pastoralists. We do not only waste talent, here at home - we go
out of our way to suppress and repress it. We do not only deny dreams,
here in Kenya - we devour them, and ask each other, "Who do you think
you are?" As if the success of another is an affront.
In Kenya , grand vision and soaring imagination is illegitimate; here,
they just call you naive. Out there, you stand a chance of becoming a
hero; at home, you will have nothing but the taste of ashes in your
mouth. Mothers, take your children abroad.
Barack Obama has written two books, in which he discusses ideas. Ideas.
This is a man with vision and conviction, and enough good ideas that
even those who do not like the pigmentally-advantaged are listening, and
changing their minds.
Even those who think that his name sounds suspiciously like a
terrorist's are reading his books and listening to his speeches, and
changing their minds. This is a man with interesting and inspiring
things to say - which disqualifies him from any Kenyan-ness we would
have liked to claim.
Americans like the image of them that Barack Obama has painted in words;
which Kenyan leader would dare to build dreams bigger than his roots?
Which Kenyan leader would ever be so foolish as to attempt inspiration
instead of instigation?
Barack Obama has seduced the world by the power of his persuasiveness,
and while Kenyans raise another glass to the accomplishments of "one of
our own," it seems clear to me that we gave up our rights to him when we
gave up our hopes for ourselves. When we settled for incompetence, and
corruption, and callousness, we defined ourselves out of his universe,
and out of his dreams.
We rejected Barack Obama-ness when we allowed those pangas to slash our
dreams, when we watched our hopes spiral away in smoke. We allowed the
ones who had done this to become the only mirrors of ourselves, and then
squelched our disgraced selves back to the mire of our despondency.
Barack Obama cannot be a Kenyan, and Kenyans cannot grasp Barack Obama's
dream. We have already despaired of it, and of ourselves. His dream
would have died with ours, here at home, here in the graveyard of hope.
But oh, how we yearn to see ourselves reflected in his eyes...
*Wambui Mwangi is an assistant professor of Political Science at the
University of Toronto, Canada. This article first appeared in The East
African, June 15 2008.
Nyani Ngabu
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Hebu toa utumbo wako hapa......so what if he's been asked to be AG?
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Obama's Attorney General
By Michael Isikoff
Newsweek
Posted Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:57 PM
President-elect Obama has decided to tap Eric Holder as his attorney general, putting the veteran Washington lawyer in place to become the first African-American to head the Justice Department, according to two legal sources close to the presidential transition.
Holder, who served as deputy attorney general during the Clinton administration, still has to undergo a formal vetting review by the Obama transition team before the selection is final and is publicly announced, said one of the sources, who asked not to be identified talking about the transition process. But in the discussions over the past few days, Obama offered Holder the job and he accepted, the source said. The announcement is not likely until after Obama announces his choices to lead the Treasury and State departments.
Holder, 57, has been on Obamas short list for attorney general from the outset. A partner at the D.C. law firm of Covington & Burling, Holder served as co-chief (along with Caroline Kennedy) of Obamas vice-presidential selection process. He also actively campaigned for Obama throughout the year and grew personally close to the president-elect. Holder has not returned a call seeking comment; the Obama transition team did not respond to e-mail messages.
The sources said the Obama transition team is still debating over who should serve under Holder in the key post of deputy attorney general. One top candidate, favored by Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and other former Clinton White House officials, is Elena Kagan, dean of the Harvard Law School and a former lawyer in the White House counsels office under Clinton. Another top candidate, favored by other Obama advisors, is David Ogden, a former chief of staff to Attorney General Janet Reno, who is currently heading Obamas Justice Department transition team. Kagan brings legal policy credentials; Ogden has more experience in the Justice Department trenches.
The only hesitancy about Holders selection was that he himself had reservations about going through a confirmation process that was likely to revive questions about his role in signing off on the controversial pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich. Although there is no evidence that Holder actively pushed the pardon, he was criticized for not raising with the White House the strong objections that some Justice Department lawyers and federal prosecutors in New York had to pardoning somebody who had fled the country. But after reviewing the evidence in the case, and checking with staffers on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Obama aides and Holder both decided the issue was highly unlikely to prove an obstacle to his confirmation, one of the sources said--especially given the Democrats more sizable post-election majority in the Senate.
A New York City native who graduated from Columbia University and Columbia Law School, Holder spent years as a federal prosecutora job in which he earned a reputation as tough and aggressive foe of public corruption. After serving in the pubic integrity section of the Justice Departments Criminal Division and later a District of Columbia Superior Court judge, Holder was named by President Clinton as U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. He became deputy attorney general in 1997 under Janet Reno and was viewed as a centrist on most law enforcement issues, though he has sharply criticized the secrecy and the expansive views of executive power advanced by the Bush Justice Department.
This is a shame! what kind of journalists are these; Kuhani of all people you shouldn't have brought this without saying a word on the journalistic skills implored here. Inasikitisha kuleta habari iliyoandikwa kizandiki kama hiyo.
Failed implies he tried but that's not the case. As far as I could tell McCain was marching to the beat of his drums. He didn't rely on a script. He went against his party on many occassions. Obantu on the hand couldn't have done that and won. If he went off the script written to him on the teleprompter he would have been nowhere. Look at him now, he is filling his cabinet with the Clintons and Clinton's people. That's not change. That's Bill Clinton third term.
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Kang
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Oh, so McCain lost on purpose then? Well that makes complete sense, thank you for the explanation.
As far as I know the Clinton admin was/is a very popular one in America so obviously some people did a good job then and they deserve to get the chance again, we should consider people on their merits.
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Ndo hivo mkuu, hata kazi hizi za kufagilia ni muhimu, nime-apply kuwa mfagiliaji wake mkuu in blogs in particular African related blogs. 😀
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Kang, mkuu, naona bado hujapata nyepesi za mwenzetu huyu Truth, ni muhimu - do not feed the animals! Huyu siku zote anaongea pumba na hayupo hapa kwa ajili ya debate kama my dear friend Nyani, bali jamaa huyu ana matatizo na ngozi nyeusi. Kwa hiyo hutaweza kumshawishi atakuudhi tu! Otherwise kama ni ligi unapenda, endeleza tu!
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Leo taarifa hii imesambaa katika international media:
Binafsi nadhani kuwa AlQaeda wanataka kutafuta angle ambayo wanaweza kuendeleza radicalism yao dhidi ya Marekani lakini wamegundua kuwa ni ngumu as Barack Hussein Obama ni rais na favorability yake iko juu duniani hata miongoni mwa Waislamu. Recruitment itazidi kuwa ngumu kwa hiyo wamejaribu kutafuta angle nyingine ya kumponda ili waje kumwita na yeye the Great Evil or whatever.
Wamejaribu kumfananisha Malcolm X na Obama, kitu ambacho ni very weak and poorly argued. Wametumia ile quotation ya Malcolm X aliyosema kuhusu House negoroes and field negroes, ni kutoka speech zake za zamani. Hata hivyo Malcolm X baada ya Hijja alikuwa reformed and distanced himself from these radical stance and that is what led to his death vis-a-vis the Nation of Islam.
Obama is not a Muslim radical and has never been a Muslim, and he has successfully shown that he is mainstream American something that despite Al Qaeda's efforts is actually a good thing in the eyes of the majority of people. but also Obama's experience and knowledge about different countries as far as Indonesia is very important in shaping his view of the world.
Katika statment hii ya Al Qaeda I can only conclude that this terrorist organization is worried about its future role and trying to get attention but soon they will be irrelevant!
Binafsi nadhani kuwa AlQaeda wanataka kutafuta angle ambayo wanaweza kuendeleza radicalism yao dhidi ya Marekani lakini wamegundua kuwa ni ngumu as Barack Hussein Obama ni rais na favorability yake iko juu duniani hata miongoni mwa Waislamu. Recruitment itazidi kuwa ngumu kwa hiyo wamejaribu kutafuta angle nyingine ya kumponda ili waje kumwita na yeye the Great Evil or whatever.
Wamejaribu kumfananisha Malcolm X na Obama, kitu ambacho ni very weak and poorly argued. Wametumia ile quotation ya Malcolm X aliyosema kuhusu House negoroes and field negroes, ni kutoka speech zake za zamani. Hata hivyo Malcolm X baada ya Hijja alikuwa reformed and distanced himself from these radical stance and that is what led to his death vis-a-vis the Nation of Islam.
Obama is not a Muslim radical and has never been a Muslim, and he has successfully shown that he is mainstream American something that despite Al Qaeda's efforts is actually a good thing in the eyes of the majority of people. but also Obama's experience and knowledge about different countries as far as Indonesia is very important in shaping his view of the world.
Katika statment hii ya Al Qaeda I can only conclude that this terrorist organization is worried about its future role and trying to get attention but soon they will be irrelevant!
Ibrah
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Nawashangaa hawa Alqaeda, yaani walidhani kuwa Obama angechukua msimamo tofauti na huo! Obama ni Mmarekani na Mmarekani yeyote anajua uchungu wa Ugaidi wa Sept 11. Yaani walitegemea Obama angeanzisha mazungumzo nao au angechukua msimamo laini dhidi yao. Walikuwa wanaota!
Lole Gwakisa
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Hawa jamaa ubongo wao una matatizo ya kimsingi.Katika dunia hii wanajiona wao kuwa na jibu la kila kitu.Wanaposhindwa na kutandikwa wanaona kama wanaonewa.Hawa Alkaeda are critical about anything but themselves.Watengeneze binadamu wao basi ili waweze kuwaendesha kama gurudumu , pengine itazipendeza imani zao.
Nilikuwa Ground Zero about 10 days ago na naweza kuelewa frustration ya watu wengine juu ya imani hii isiyo na mbele wala nyuma.Watanzania vilevile tukumbuke kuwa hawa jamaa waliua waTanzania mwaka 1998 na hatujalipa kisasi kwa hili. Kumtusi Barack Obama si tu anatusi waAfrika bali vilevile kutudhalilisha. Tutambue ubaguzi wa kiArabu na wasijifiche nyuma ya pazia la dini ya Kiislamu, dini ambayo inaheshimika.
Nilikuwa Ground Zero about 10 days ago na naweza kuelewa frustration ya watu wengine juu ya imani hii isiyo na mbele wala nyuma.Watanzania vilevile tukumbuke kuwa hawa jamaa waliua waTanzania mwaka 1998 na hatujalipa kisasi kwa hili. Kumtusi Barack Obama si tu anatusi waAfrika bali vilevile kutudhalilisha. Tutambue ubaguzi wa kiArabu na wasijifiche nyuma ya pazia la dini ya Kiislamu, dini ambayo inaheshimika.
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Lakini pia ni vyema tukikumbuka kwamba enzi za W. Bush na Guantanamo and other issues, AQ walionekana as if they are starting to make sense esp to many Muslims in Third World countries. Lakini Obama amebadili mtazamo wa dunia. and actually naona hata ma-experts wamekuwa na msimamo kama wa kwetu kuhusu AQ na Obama:
Actually naungana na Ukwelii na Lole Kwagisa, hawa warabu wametutukana wote. Yaani wanaona kama vile sisi waafrika hatuna uwezo wa kuwa huru kifikra, either we agree with them, or we are "House Negroes! Malcolm X wanayemtukuza ni wa zamani yule Malcolm X kabla ya kifo chake alikuwa tofauti kabisa na hata wao wngemwita "house negro"
Actually naungana na Ukwelii na Lole Kwagisa, hawa warabu wametutukana wote. Yaani wanaona kama vile sisi waafrika hatuna uwezo wa kuwa huru kifikra, either we agree with them, or we are "House Negroes! Malcolm X wanayemtukuza ni wa zamani yule Malcolm X kabla ya kifo chake alikuwa tofauti kabisa na hata wao wngemwita "house negro"
LOL... how exactly do you say "House Negro" in Arabic?
...hellow deluded wannabe truth the plumber,who is the president of United States of America?