Only Science is a true messenger of God

[kahtaan]

Mh!! Kama ilivyo katika sheria, endapo kama kunasheria inaleta mkanganyiko wa kuitafsri basi uunda kwa sheria nyingine mbadala! Ngoja nikuambie kitu ww kijana!! Wakati mwnyz mungu anashusha Qur'aan, wakati mwingne alikuwa anashusha enadpo kuna jambo linaloleta utata, katika ayah hizo ulizo sema hapo juu katk. Suraat Mwnyez AL-nisa, hiyo Ayah ya 4:129, ni ya kwanza, na ilileta mkanganyiko hivyo ili kutatua suala hili ALLAH SUBUHAN WATALLAH akamteremshia mtume MUHAMAD ayah nyingine 4:135 ili kuueleza umma wake!! Kwan ni dhair wanadamu, wanaume hutaman kutenda mambo mema kwa wake zetu na pia wanawake hutaman kutenda mambo mema ila tatzo ni Mitihan kutoka kwa mwenyezi mungu kwan huwezi kuingia peponi hivhiv kiurahis kama unaingia chumban kwako, ni lazima upitiwe na mitihan ndo ufaulu kwa mwnyz mungu!!

NAFIKIR UTAKUW UMEELEWA

Ustadh Papaa Azonto
Huyo max akikubali kuwa AMEKUELEWA ujue ana maleria yanayo mtuma hivyo!
Ni mtu anaejifanya haelewi!

Allah kaisha muita mtu kama huyu ni "summun bukmun umyun"

Na kila ukimuuliza swali, HAWEZI KUTOA JIBU HATA AFE!

unajua ni Kwa nini!?

Kwasababu quraan ni ukweli mtupu, na sio yeye tu!

Wako maalfu kama yeye wanaojaribu kupindisha quraan iki kupotosha watu,
Lkn wapi!

Uislamu unaongezeka kila siku!

We mpe daawa halafu wacha watu wengine wapate faida!

Lkn usitegemee atakujibu kitu!

 

[MaxShimba]

Jaman nipo hapa nasikilaz darasa la quran "kwakweli hiki ni kitabu cha M/mungu na ndio muongozo pekee kwa wanaomcha M/mungu i am realy enjoying ,natamani kila mtu angejua ukweli jamani njooni kwenye uongofu,njooni kwenye uislamu

I looked in detail that Bible was written to correct the sinful human beings and to bring them in their original position from where they fell. But there is no forgiveness of sin, salvation of soul, fellowship with God or eternal life ever offered in Quran or in Hadith

Is Quran infallible?:

Muslim scholars have argued that, Word of God should not contain any error thus Quran is infallible and does not contain any error. But it is not true. Quran contains major mistakes which makes Quran's validity in question.

Some of the contradiction in Quran:
Quran sometimes condemns sin but on the other side gives green flag to commit wrong things.

Quran says in Surah 17:32-34. "Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils). Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law). Come not nigh to the orphan's property except to improve it, until he attains the age of full strength; and fulfil (every) engagement, for (every) engagement will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning)."

But in Quran itself you can find that adultery is permitted as we read in Surah 2:230. "So if a husband divorces his wife (irrevocably), He cannot, after that, re-marry her until after she has married another husband and He has divorced her. In that case there is no blame on either of them if they re-unite, provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by Allah. Such are the limits ordained by Allah, which He makes plain to those who understand."

We see that Muhammad was willing to marry his adopted son's wife. So Allah permitted him by changing the rules as we read in Surah 33:50, "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful."

By all these things you can understand that Quran has so many misconception and mistakes which should not be there if it came directly from God or if it was word of God. Unlike Quran, Bible does not contain such mistakes. Bible's message is consistent and it never contradicts the theme and message of the Bible.

 

[MaxShimba]

Ustadh

unajua ni Kwa nini!?

Kwasababu quraan ni ukweli mtupu, na sio yeye tu!

It says the Sun sets in a muddy spring:

18:86 Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.

 

[kahtaan]

It says the Sun sets in a muddy spring:

18:86 Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.

Naona kale ka ugonjwa kanakoitwa amnesia!
Kamekunasa!
Na kama sio hako
Basi ni yale mafua ya nguruwe!
Hebu jifanye wewe sio max! Halafu soma hapa kama utaelewa kitu gani huyu max kaandika!!

 

[kahtaan]

[/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/I][/I][/B]By all these things you can understand that Quran has so many misconception and mistakes which should not be there if it came directly from God or if it was word of God.

Unlike Quran, Bible does not contain such mistakes. Bible's message is consistent and it never contradicts the theme and message of the Bible.

Why YOU ALWAYS LIED!

Answer this open BIBLE contradictions.

Which even a child will notice!

And you do not need to explain to anyone !
You can see! Its all there!!

1.Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?

JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.



2.Jesus' last words

MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

"JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

3.Earth supported?

JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

4.Heaven supported too!!

JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.

The sins of the father

ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

I DARE YOU OR ANY GALATIAN TO ANSWER THAT!!,
Eiyer and MOSSAD II can come for the rescue!

 

[Kikwajuni One]

I looked in detail that Bible was written to correct the sinful human beings and to bring them in their original position from where they fell. But there is no forgiveness of sin, salvation of soul, fellowship with God or eternal life ever offered in Quran or in Hadith

Is Quran infallible?:

Muslim scholars have argued that, Word of God should not contain any error thus Quran is infallible and does not contain any error. But it is not true. Quran contains major mistakes which makes Quran's validity in question.

Some of the contradiction in Quran:
Quran sometimes condemns sin but on the other side gives green flag to commit wrong things.

Quran says in Surah 17:32-34. "Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils). Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law). Come not nigh to the orphan's property except to improve it, until he attains the age of full strength; and fulfil (every) engagement, for (every) engagement will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning)."

But in Quran itself you can find that adultery is permitted as we read in Surah 2:230. "So if a husband divorces his wife (irrevocably), He cannot, after that, re-marry her until after she has married another husband and He has divorced her. In that case there is no blame on either of them if they re-unite, provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by Allah. Such are the limits ordained by Allah, which He makes plain to those who understand."

We see that Muhammad was willing to marry his adopted son's wife. So Allah permitted him by changing the rules as we read in Surah 33:50, "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful."

By all these things you can understand that Quran has so many misconception and mistakes which should not be there if it came directly from God or if it was word of God. Unlike Quran, Bible does not contain such mistakes. Bible's message is consistent and it never contradicts the theme and message of the Bible.

Wacha ku coppy na kupaste,yote haya yameshajibiwa siku nyingi.Lugha inakupiga chenga,mambo yko wazi.Tatizo ni elimu yako ya shule ya kata.

 

[MaxShimba]

Naona kale ka ugonjwa kanakoitwa amnesia!
Kamekunasa!
Na kama sio hako
Basi ni yale mafua ya nguruwe!
Hebu jifanye wewe sio max! Halafu soma hapa kama utaelewa kitu gani huyu max kaandika!!

Huyo ndo allah wako kashusha ayat, allah huyohuyo anadai ndie kaumba vyote. Sasa tumuulize, kivipi asahau alicho kiumba? My Foot

 

[MaxShimba]

Why YOU ALWAYS LIED!

Answer this open BIBLE contradictions.

​Lugha za Wakristo Ngumu sana.

 

[MaxShimba]

Why YOU ALWAYS LIED!

The Quran describes Allah as the best deceiver there is, a liar who is not above using the same evil and wicked schemes of his opponents.


For example, the Quran calls Allah a makr, in fact the best makr there is:

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30
​

Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:

Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99
So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50

Mungu wako ndio huyo. A LIAR.
​

 

[Kikwajuni One]

The Quran describes Allah as the best deceiver there is, a liar who is not above using the same evil and wicked schemes of his opponents.


For example, the Quran calls Allah a makr, in fact the best makr there is:

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30
​

Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:

Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99
So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50

Mungu wako ndio huyo. A LIAR.
​

The term khayru al -makreen is first used in verse 3:54 of the Quran:
And they schemed [against Jesus]and God is the best schemer.
This alternatel translated as "deciver" or "plotter" - the translation of "deceiver" is preferred by anti-Muslim elements,whereas "plotter" by Muslim apologists .I' ve chosen the more neutral "schemer"
The context of this verse can be found in Tafsir Al-Jalalayn,as follows:
God says :And they ,the disbeliever s among the Children of Israel,schemed ,against Jesus ,by assigning someone to assassinate him;and God schemed,by casting the likeness of Jesus onto the person who intended to kill him,and so they killed him,while Jesus was raised up into heaven;and God is the best of schemers,most knowledgeable of him [Jesus]

 

[Kikwajuni One]

Some killers schemed against Jesus,and so God schemed against the killers to fool them.God make someone else look like Jesus -a willing martyr ,by the way -and the killers murdered him instead (dont worry ,he is promised heaven)
So ,that is the context in which God "schemed"

 

[Kikwajuni One]

The term khayrul al-makireen is repeated in verse 8:30,again in the context of those who tried to assassinate one of God's prophets,in this case Muhammad himself .The leaders of Mecca pla nned to assassinate him

 

[Kikwajuni One]

The biblical god as a deceiver
jeremiah 4:10 then i said ,o" sovereign lord ,the people have been deceived by what you said ,for you promised peace for jerusalem .but the sword is held at their throats!

 

[Kikwajuni One]

Of relevance here is the fact that unlike the two Quranic verses -which show God stoppig people from killing by deceiving murderers -the biblical verse in which God deceives involves him tricking a population into thinking they would have "peace" when fact "the sword is held at their throats!"

 

[MaxShimba]

The term khayru al -makreen is first used in verse 3:54 of the Quran:
And they schemed [against Jesus]and God is the best schemer.
This alternatel translated as "deciver" or "plotter" - the translation of "deceiver" is preferred by anti-Muslim elements,whereas "plotter" by Muslim apologists .I' ve chosen the more neutral "schemer"
The context of this verse can be found in Tafsir Al-Jalalayn,as follows:
God says :And they ,the disbeliever s among the Children of Israel,schemed ,against Jesus ,by assigning someone to assassinate him;and God schemed,by casting the likeness of Jesus onto the person who intended to kill him,and so they killed him,while Jesus was raised up into heaven;and God is the best of schemers,most knowledgeable of him [Jesus]

Allah swears a lot in the Quran,he swears on the moon and he even swears on the souls of the disbelievers,but what does he use to swear Muhammad and the Quran on?

The Allah in the Quran and in Islam is not GREAT after all!

Why is that so??

Because he has to swear and make oaths by things that are LOWER THAN HIMSELF!

Lets take a closer look:

"I swear by the daybreak, and By the ten nights (i.e. the first ten days of the month of Dhul-Hijjah), And by the even and the odd (of all the creations of Allah), And by the night when it departs. .."

sura 89/1-4

(I swear by) the heaven and the Morning Star -....

sura 86/1

Allah swears by - the steeds that run, with panting (breath),

sura 100/1 etc

In other places in the quran, Allah swears by the Sun, the Moon and the Zodiac signs!

WHY does an all-powerful God/('Allah') even need to 'swear' by his puny creation and the things that he had made??

IF Allah is GREATER than his created beings, it is ludicrous that He should actually make an oath (swear) by those things.

 

[MaxShimba]

Of relevance here is the fact that unlike the two Quranic verses -which show God stoppig people from killing by deceiving murderers -the biblical verse in which God deceives involves him tricking a population into thinking they would have "peace" when fact "the sword is held at their throats!"

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"


Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

"People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths by sword and killing innocent people.

 

[kahtaan]

Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

"People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths by sword and killing innocent people.

VERY MERCIFUL BIBLE SAYS!

. God drowns the whole earth.

In-Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives.

In-Matthew 24:37-42,

gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.

2. God kills half a million people.

In-2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites.

3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn

.In-Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.

4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them

.In-Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.

5. Genocide after genocide after genocide.

In-Joshua 6:20-21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.”

In-Deuteronomy 2:32-35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children.

In-Deuteronomy 3:3-7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan.

In-Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war.

In-1 Samuel 15:1-9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites – men, women, children, infants, and their cattle – for something the Amalekites’ ancestors had done 400 years earlier.

6. God kills 50,000 people for curiosity

.In-1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant.-(Newer cosmetic translations count only 70 deaths, but their text notes admit that the best and earliest manuscripts put the number at 50,070.)

7. 3,000 Israelites killed for inventing a god.

In-Exodus 32, Moses has climbed Mount Sinai to get the Ten Commandments. The Israelites are bored, so they invent a golden calf god. Moses comes back and God commands him: “Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” About 3,000 people died.8. The Amorites destroyed by sword and by God’s rocks.

In-Joshua 10:10-11, God helps the Israelites slaughter the Amorites by sword, then finishes them off with rocks from the sky.

9. God burns two cities to death

.In-Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home.

10. God has 42 children mauled by bears

.In-2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them. (Newer cosmetic translations say the bears “maul” the children, but the original Hebrew,-baqa, means “to tear apart.”)

11. A tribe slaughtered and their virgins raped for not showing up at roll call

.In-Judges 21:1-23, a tribe of Israelites misses roll call, so the other Israelites kill them all except for the virgins, which they take for themselves. Still not happy, they hide in vineyards and pounce on dancing women from Shiloh to take them for themselves.12. 3,000 crushed to death

.In-Judges 16:27-30, God gives Samson strength to bring down a building to crush 3,000 members of a rival tribe.13. A concubine raped and dismembered

.In-Judges 19:22-29, a mob demands to rape a godly master’s guest. The master offers his daughter and a concubine to them instead. They take the concubine and gang-rape her all night. The master finds her on his doorstep in the morning, cuts her into 12 pieces, and ships the pieces around the country.14. Child sacrifice.

In-Judges 11:30-39, Jephthah burns his daughter alive as a sacrificial offering for God’s favor in killing the Ammonites.15. God helps Samson kill 30 men because he lost a bet.

In-Judges 14:11-19, Samson loses a bet for 30 sets of clothes. The spirit of God comes upon him and he kills 30 men to steal their clothes and pay off the debt.

16. God demands you kill your wife and children for worshiping other gods

.In-Deuteronomy 13:6-10, God commands that you must kill your wife, children, brother, and friend if they worship other gods.

17. God incinerates 51 men to make a point.

In-2 Kings 1:9-10, Elijah gets God to burn 51 men with fire from heaven to prove he is God.

18. God kills a man for-not-impregnating his brother’s widow.

In-Genesis 38:9-10, God kills a man for refusing to IMPREGNATION TO his BROTHERS WIDOW!

I FEEL PHYSICALLY SICK WRITING THIS!!

 

[Kikwajuni One]

And night the angel of the Lord went out and struck down the camp of Assyrians .And when people arose early in the morning behold ,these were all dead bodies.
2 Kings 19:34-35

 

[Kikwajuni One]

"...and my wrath will burn,and I will kill you with the sword ,and your wives shall become widows and your children fartherless."(Exodus 22:24)

 

[Kikwajuni One]

(1 Samuel 15:3 )
"Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has ,and do not spare him;but put to death both man and woman,child and infant,ox and sheep,camel and donkey"