Rabi Leo Baeck ni nani kwa Israel?

Rabi Leo Baeck ni nani kwa Israel?

Wickama said:
Punjab Singh, i find the use of the words in bold and the spirit of your question offensive and to be honest a bit disrespectful to Eiyer,
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Why am I wrong to call him little brother do you know my age? Or is it offensive racially speaking? Let Eiyer speak for himself.
 
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Wickama said:
Maoni kuhusu swali lako huwa wengi wanaichukulia prophecy ya Mathew 24:16 kuwa kama indicator kama alivyoandika huyu bwana;



source: Should Christians Flee to the Mountains in the End Times?

Pia kuna wanaoitumia Luke 21:6 kama ikieleza kitachofuata huko Yerusalem. Huwa wanaelezea kuwa 70 AD Warumi waliupora Mji wote na kubomoa kuta nyingi wakisaka Dhahabu.

"As for these things which you are looking at, the days will come in which there will not be left one stone upon another which will not be torn down."


The only conflict in especially the first narration is that it is not correct to assume Jesus was warning Christians. NO. Infact he was warning THE ISRAELITES of the TIME to whom he was sent and into whose synagogues he too prayed

Hayo yaache. Hebu wewe na jopo la wakuu Mkuu wa chuo, 2013, Ishmael, etc. mtoe duku duku kwenye hii transition ya maneno;

1. Yahweh (Hebrews)
2. Yahbe (also pronouced as Yambi) and Yah (Cameroon and Eastern Nigerian bantus), Rastafarians-Jah
3. Yambi, Nyambi, Zambi (central africa bantus like zambia)
4. Nzambe (kongo--- refer Yesu mwana wa Nzambe!!!!)
5. Zumbe (Zigua, Bondei, Sambaa plus other TZ bantus)
6. Sambwa (also prounced as Risambwa, Emesambwa) - Lake zone bantus (like Kuryas)

I assume, By and Large, Bantus were worshiping Yahweh all along. This is probably why you don't find idols being worshiped in this group of people. Worshiping was ALWAYS through ANCESTORS. Settling of Critical issues like calamities and droughts in this group were entrusted to a chosen people and were often accompanied with animal sacrifices (especially KONDOO), stories on droughts tell that it OFTEN rained when these guys did that!!!!!
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Ukipitia mwanzoni mwa thread ilijadiliwa kidogo kuhusiana na hilo jina YWHW ambapo Eiyer alisema hilo limeongezwa tu, kwa maana nyingine halipo Biblical, lakini nikiangalia huwa linatumika sana, ngojea tuzidi kuangalia asili ya hilo jina, hadi kwa sasa sijapata uhakika kuhusiana na madai ya Eiyer... kwa maelezo ya Eiyer, historia ya hilo jina ni sawa na historia ya ile nyota kwenye Bendera, kwa maana nyingine naweza kusema haieleweki...
 
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Mkuu wa chuo said:
Ukipitia mwanzoni mwa thread ilijadiliwa kidogo kuhusiana na hilo jina YWHW ambapo Eiyer alisema hilo limeongezwa tu, kwa maana nyingine halipo Biblical, lakini nikiangalia huwa linatumika sana, ngojea tuzidi kuangalia asili ya hilo jina, hadi kwa sasa sijapata uhakika kuhusiana na madai ya Eiyer... kwa maelezo ya Eiyer, historia ya hilo jina ni sawa na historia ya ile nyota kwenye Bendera, kwa maana nyingine naweza kusema haieleweki...
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Mkuu,pamoja na mashaka yangu kuhusu hili jina bado linamahusiano na Waisraeli kwasababu kwa mujibu wa baadhi ya tafiti nilizozifanya inaonekana jina hili au herufi zilizozaa jina hili zilitoka Babylon na waliozitoa huko ni hao hao Waisraeli na pia namna zinayoandikwa sio kwa sarufi za Kiebrania

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Hiyo hapo juu ni YHWH kwa lugha yake ya asili ambayo ni babyloniaaramaic
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Hiyo hapo ni nyota inayoitwa petagram,nyita hii ina mahusiano makubwa na uchawi pamoja na vyama vya siri na inada za shetani,ukitazama kwa makini ndani ya miduara hiyo miwili utaweza kuona YHWH zikiwa kwenye maandishi yake ya asili ya babyloniaaramaic

Hili linawezekanaje mkuu?



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Hiyo hapo juu ni Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh kwa kiebrania cha kale ambacho ndicho walichoongea waisraeli wakati wa Musa,unaweza kuona tofauti ya maandishi kati ya YHWH na Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh na pia hayo mawili hayana maana moja

Ehyea Asher Ehyeh ni NIKO AMBAE NIKO,hilo ndilo jina la Mungu alilopewa Musa na hata kuna connection kati ya jina la Musa na Yesu kwakuwa wote wawili walifanya kuwaokoa Waisrael na kama kuna mahusiano ya hayo majina mawili basi yana mahusiano na jina hilo la Mungu

Ngoja nifukunyue kwenye makabrasha yangu nione kama nitakutana na article inayozungumzia hayo kisha nitaweka hapa tuone
 
Eiyer said:
Mkuu,pamoja na mashaka yangu kuhusu hili jina bado linamahusiano na Waisraeli kwasababu kwa mujibu wa baadhi ya tafiti nilizozifanya inaonekana jina hili au herufi zilizozaa jina hili zilitoka Babylon na waliozitoa huko ni hao hao Waisraeli na pia namna zinayoandikwa sio kwa sarufi za Kiebrania

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Hiyo hapo juu ni YHWH kwa lugha yake ya asili ambayo ni babyloniaaramaic
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Hiyo hapo ni nyota inayoitwa petagram,nyita hii ina mahusiano makubwa na uchawi pamoja na vyama vya siri na inada za shetani,ukitazama kwa makini ndani ya miduara hiyo miwili utaweza kuona YHWH zikiwa kwenye maandishi yake ya asili ya babyloniaaramaic

Hili linawezekanaje mkuu?



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Hiyo hapo juu ni Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh kwa kiebrania cha kale ambacho ndicho walichoongea waisraeli wakati wa Musa,unaweza kuona tofauti ya maandishi kati ya YHWH na Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh na pia hayo mawili hayana maana moja

Ehyea Asher Ehyeh ni NIKO AMBAE NIKO,hilo ndilo jina la Mungu alilopewa Musa na hata kuna connection kati ya jina la Musa na Yesu kwakuwa wote wawili walifanya kuwaokoa Waisrael na kama kuna mahusiano ya hayo majina mawili basi yana mahusiano na jina hilo la Mungu

Ngoja nifukunyue kwenye makabrasha yangu nione kama nitakutana na article inayozungumzia hayo kisha nitaweka hapa tuone
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Jesus never spoke Yiddish the current Israeli language. Jesus spoke Aramaic.
 
Punjab Singh said:
Jesus never spoke Yiddish the current Israeli language. Jesus spoke Aramaic.
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Sizungumzii agano jipya hapo,you get it wrong ...

Ahano la kale lugha ya uandishi ni tofauti na agano jipya,lakini pia sio kweli kuwa alizungumza lugha hiyo moja tu bali alizungumza pia Kiyunani [Greek] lugha iliyoandikia Aganoi jipya,lakini pia alizungumza lugha ya Kirumi,lugha ya wakoloni wa Israel wa wakati huo

Pamoja na hilo hapo juu nimezungumzia agano la kale ambalo liliandikwa kwa lugha ya Kiebrania cha kale!
 
Mkuu wa chuo said:
Ukipitia mwanzoni mwa thread ilijadiliwa kidogo kuhusiana na hilo jina YWHW ambapo Eiyer alisema hilo limeongezwa tu, kwa maana nyingine halipo Biblical, lakini nikiangalia huwa linatumika sana, ngojea tuzidi kuangalia asili ya hilo jina, hadi kwa sasa sijapata uhakika kuhusiana na madai ya Eiyer... kwa maelezo ya Eiyer, historia ya hilo jina ni sawa na historia ya ile nyota kwenye Bendera, kwa maana nyingine naweza kusema haieleweki...
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Mkuu, hebu fuatilia ujirani wa maneno

Obadiah --- obadiyah
Haleluyah
Yahoshua


Ezekiel
Israel
Gabriel
Elohim

nadhani kuna Mungu kwa ------ YAH na pia EL (Eloi......)
 
Eiyer said:
Sizungumzii agano jipya hapo,you get it wrong ...

Ahano la kale lugha ya uandishi ni tofauti na agano jipya,lakini pia sio kweli kuwa alizungumza lugha hiyo moja tu bali alizungumza pia Kiyunani [Greek] lugha iliyoandikia Aganoi jipya,lakini pia alizungumza lugha ya Kirumi,lugha ya wakoloni wa Israel wa wakati huo

Pamoja na hilo hapo juu nimezungumzia agano la kale ambalo liliandikwa kwa lugha ya Kiebrania cha kale!
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Eiyer a mother language and a spoken language are different issues and it does not mean that because he knew Roman or Greek then his ministry was for such group of people remember his ministry was not for the Gentiles right? Btw I wonder now, if he had such divinity why he spoke only those few languages. As far as I understand Since Adam many prophets before Jesus spoke Syriac language. Jesus was an exception he spake Aramaic.

I picked this report from somwhere from a Canadian News Paper site:

Why the language of Jesus is at risk

KINDA JAYOUSH
SPECIAL TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL
Last updated Friday, Apr. 18 2014, 5:30 PM EDT


Father Makarios Wehbi reads from a Aramaic bible at Sts. Peter and Paul Melkite Catholic Church April 17, 2014 in Ottawa. Aramaic, which has been transferred from one generation to another for thousands of years through the inhabitants of Maaloula and their collective memory, could die today because the villagers fled their homes heading toward different destinations as refugees, says Father Makarios Wehbi, a Canadian priest who hails from Maaloula and has been active in preserving his language. (DAVE CHAN FOR THE GLOBE AND MAIL)


Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ, has survived for centuries and is still spoken in one place on Earth: the village of Maaloula in Syria, about 60 kilometres northeast of Damascus.

But Maaloula has not been immune to the civil war that has torn the country apart, and experts are worried that Aramaic, already designated as “definitely endangered,” will be a casualty.

Since late 2013, Maaloula has been held by the Nusra Front, an Islamist extremist organization affiliated with al-Qaeda, which prompted a number to flee the village. This week, after an intense battle, Syrian forces reclaimed the town. The civil war has taken its toll: The once-picturesque tourist attraction for pilgrims is now full of charred homes and bombarded churches and monasteries.

The damage – and continuing violence in Syria – could mean that the refugees do not return, which would be a significant blow to Aramaic.

“Aramaic, which has been transferred from one generation to another for thousands of years through the inhabitants of Maaloula and their collective memory, could die today because the villagers fled their homes heading toward different destinations as refugees,” says Monsignor Makarios Wehbi, a priest at Ottawa’s Sts. Peter and Paul Melkite Catholic Church who hails from Maaloula and has been active in preserving his language.

THE VILLAGE OF MAALOULA

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It is a beautiful village, carved in the Qalamun Mountains in Syria. Maaloula is more than 2,000 years old and is home to a number of ancient Christian sites and monasteries, including two of the oldest monasteries in the history of Syria and Christianity – St. Sergius and St. Thecla – making it a tourist destination for pilgrims.

Its population of 10,000 drops in the winter to fewer than 5,000 people, as many residents move temporarily to Damascus and Beirut to escape the cold.

But in the Syrian civil war, Maaloula is also strategically significant. The village is located near the main road that links Damascus to Homs, which is considered an essential supply route. That is why the government was eager to retake Maaloula from rebels – to cut off their supply routes and give the government more control of central Syria.

The exodus of Christians over the past year has worried experts, who fear that Aramaic speakers will integrate into their new communities and eventually the language will disappear. And although the village has been recaptured, many believe that the residents will not return because their homes have been destroyed, they are not wealthy enough to rebuild and the insecurity of the civil war continues.

“The village is badly damaged and security is very limited,” says one Maaloula resident who did not want to be named for safety reasons. “I do not think we will be able to go there to settle in a long time.”

“We are so happy [Maaloula] is free now, but the village is littered with land mines, many parts of it are destroyed and some homes have been torched,” says a former resident named Ward, who fled in late 2013 and has taken refuge in Damascus. “Most villagers are poor and I doubt they would have the means to rebuild their homes. And those who have the means are afraid that the general security situation is not stable yet or safe,” she added.

There are isolated communities around the world that still speak Syriac or Aramaic, but Maaloula’s Western Neo-Aramaic is considered the closest to the language of Jesus. Two small communities near Maaloula – Gubbadine and Baxa – speak a version that is almost the same.

“It is a very critical time in the history of the language,” Father Wehbi says. “If the residents of Maaloula finally decide to take refuge and settle in Damascus, Lebanon, Egypt or elsewhere, then we will be facing a risk of losing the language. It would be easier for them to speak Arabic or any other language that their children may use in schools and hear on television or on the streets of the new places where they resettled and lived.”

PRESERVING THE LANGUAGE

The closeness of the Aramaic of Maaloula to the language of Jesus was first discovered around 1850 when linguists visited the village. This version of the Aramaic language used to be transferred orally, but that changed over the past four decades when George Rizkallah, a professor at Damascus University, began to write wrote poetry in it. Several years ago, the Aramaic Language Institute was established in Maaloula.

Prof. Rizkallah lives in Damascus, where he gives lectures and holds activities with the aim of protecting the language.

Father Wehbi’s voice chokes with frustration as he describes the importance of protecting Aramaic, one of the Semitic languages that has various branches, including those spoken east of the Euphrates River – modern-day Iraq and North Syria – and those spoken to the west of the Euphrates, in Syria, in periods of history that predate Christianity.

UNESCO recognizes Aramaic as a “definitely endangered” language, and has called for the protection of Syria’s heritage against damages by the civil war.

Father Wehbi is working hard to co-ordinate efforts between Canada and Europe to protect the Aramaic language from extinction. He set up a Facebook page this year – Learn the Aramaic, JESUS language – to teach the language.

He began the individual effort with some of his close relatives to post short lessons and translations of Arabic, English and Aramaic.

He also connected with a Spanish Facebook page on the subject. “Sometimes we post items of the Aramaic heritage of Syria, we post articles and research. We have friends from all over the world,” he says.

Arnold Werner, a professor of Semitic languages at Heidelberg University in Germany, has also researched the Aramaic language for several decades – including spending two years in Maaloula in the 1980s – and has written a dictionary of the language.

“We hope [the violence] ends very soon,” says Prof. Werner, who is currently in Turkey carrying out research on languages. “This is a treasure of the world and it needs our help today.”

Prof. Werner has set up a charitable association, hoping to raise money to help residents of Maaloula rebuild and resettle there when the violence ends.

“This is my duty,” Prof. Werner says. “My children lived in Maaloula and loved it. They are determined to help in whatever way they can. It was a shock for us to see what is happening in beautiful Maaloula. We used to attend its famous festivals and religious celebrations. It is carved in our hearts and minds.”

THE CANADIANS WHO SPEAK IT

George Haddad, a Canadian of Syrian origin from Maaloula, is proud of his village and its grand history. Some of his extended family still lived there when the village was attacked in September.

As he speaks of Maaloula, his voice fades and he collapses into tears. “I feel the pain is crushing my heart of all that happened,” he says from Montreal, where he has been living for more than two decades.

Mr. Haddad and several members of his family have been living in Canada for many years, but they never stopped visiting Maaloula. “I always tried to go there regularly in the summers. I love my beautiful ancient village, our summer religious festivals and the tourists. I love everything about it,” he says. “I wish I can go back and visit. We all pray that we will have the chance to go back to our homes and to visit Maaloula.”

There are about 10 families from Maaloula in Montreal and a few others in Ottawa and Calgary.

Mr. Haddad tries to teach the language to his grandchildren. “For example, I would ask one of them to bring me water in Aramaic words. Sometimes they laugh with excitement that they are trying to speak the language their grandfather speaks.”
 
Punjab Singh said:
Eiyer a mother language and a spoken language are different issues and it does not mean that because he knew Roman or Greek then his ministry was for such group of people remember his ministry was not for the Gentiles right? Btw I wonder now, if he had such divinity why he spoke only those few languages. As far as I understand Since Adam many prophets before Jesus spoke Syriac language. Jesus was an exception he spake Aramaic
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Acha kubadili mada,hii mada sio ya kumhusu Yesu wala aina za lugha alizoongea wala Uungu wake,japokuwa nina majibu lukuki kuhusu haya madai yako hapa sio mahali pake

Stick to the mada please .....!!
 
Eiyer said:
Nakushukuru sana kwa majibu mazuri sana mkuu,

Tukio la mwaka 70 AD lipo kwenye unabii upi mkuu?

Sio ule wa kwenye Kumb la Torati?

Kama ndio huo,kwanini haukuondoka kwa damu ya Yesu?
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Daniel foretold the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple

Bible prophecy: Daniel 9:24-26
Prophecy written: About 530 BC
Prophecy fulfilled: 70 AD
During the time of Daniel, who lived about 2600 years ago, the Babylonians invaded Judah (the southern part of the land of Israel) and took many Jews, including Daniel, as captives to Babylon.

The Babylonians also destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the Temple, in 586 B.C.

In Daniel 9:24-26, Daniel delivers a prophecy that Jerusalem and the Temple would be destroyed, again. Within these verses, Daniel provides a chronology by which certain events would occur. First, the Jews would return from captivity and rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple. Afterwards, an "anointed one," or Messiah, would appear, but he would be rejected. Then, Jerusalem and the Temple would be destroyed, again.

These events later played out during the century in which Jesus had announced that he was the Messiah.
Daniel 9:24-26:
24 "Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.

25 "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.

26 After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
 
Ishmael said:

Daniel foretold the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple Bible prophecy: Daniel 9:24-26 Prophecy written: About 530 BC Prophecy fulfilled: 70 ADDuring the time of Daniel, who lived about 2600 years ago, the Babylonians invaded Judah (the southern part of the land of Israel) and took many Jews, including Daniel, as captives to Babylon
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in my opinion i think Deuteronomy 28:68 is the most clear prophecy "And the LORD will bring you back in ships to Egypt, a journey that I promised that you should never make again; and there you shall offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but there will be no buyer"

this verse refers to going into slavery by SHIPS. those jewish slaves taken into babylon did not use SHIPS. also, contrary to the prophecy they managed to return and rebuild.

Utabiri wa Deut. 28:68 specifically unataja MELI/MERIKEBU. Kisha unaweka bayana kuwa itakuwa safari ambayo hawatarudi toka huko utumwani. Navyojua mimi only Bantus from west, central, east and southern africa were SHIPPED to arabia, India, the oceanic islands, north and southern americas as slaves thus conforming to this prophecy and the form of transport. Non bantus were least affected.

Also those sold as slaves in those lands have never made a return journey to their ancestral homelands as per the prophecy.

cc Eiyer,
 
Wickama said:
in my opinion i think Deuteronomy 28:68 is the most clear prophecy "And the LORD will bring you back in ships to Egypt, a journey that I promised that you should never make again; and there you shall offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but there will be no buyer"

this verse refers to going into slavery by SHIPS. those jewish slaves taken into babylon did not use SHIPS. also, contrary to the prophecy they managed to return and rebuild.

Utabiri wa Deut. 28:68 specifically unataja MELI/MERIKEBU. Kisha unaweka bayana kuwa itakuwa safari ambayo hawatarudi toka huko utumwani. Navyojua mimi only Bantus from west, central, east and southern africa were SHIPPED to arabia, India, the oceanic islands, north and southern americas as slaves thus conforming to this prophecy and the form of transport. Non bantus were least affected.

Also those sold as slaves in those lands have never made a return journey to their ancestral homelands as per the prophecy.

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What the scriptures say (just a few of them-more at the end):

Isaiah 43
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Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west.
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I will say to the north, `Give them up!' and to the south, `Do not hold them back.' Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth-

In Isaiah 43:5-6, the prophet said that the people of Israel would return to their homeland from the east, the west, the north and the south. Isaiah lived 2700 years ago. Beginning at that time, a succession of empires conquered the land of Israel and forced many into exile. This led to a worldwide scattering of Jews. But, during the past century, millions have returned to Israel.-

Jeremiah 23:3-6
"I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number. I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing," declares the Lord. "The days are coming," declares the Lord, "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The Lord Our Righteousness.

The "math" idea:
I heard an interesting talk about the percent of Jews living in Israel as compared to the percent of Jews still living in the world. He predicted that most Jews would be back in Israel by 2015. I did not know where the person got the data from so I went home and looked up a reference for myself. My apologies here for not listing the correct reference for these graphs. I did not originally document it, which is atypical for me. When I find it, I will add it.

Raw data:

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[TD="colspan: 2"]6,780.00
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[TD="colspan: 2"]6,200.00
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[TD]5,759.40
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[TD]5,619.00
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[TD]4,821.70
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[TD]3,921.70
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[TD]3,022.10
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[TD="colspan: 2"]%in israel vs world
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[TD]1882
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[TD="colspan: 2"]0
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[TD="colspan: 2"]1
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[TD="colspan: 2"]6
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[TD="colspan: 2"]13
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[TD="colspan: 2"]20
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[TD="colspan: 2"]23
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[TD]1980
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[TD="colspan: 2"]25
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[TD]1985
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[TD="colspan: 2"]27
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[TD="colspan: 9"][/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]30
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[TD="colspan: 2"]38
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[TD="colspan: 2"]42
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]%in israel vs world
[/TD]
[TD]x
[/TD]
[TD]y
[/TD]
[TD]log x
[/TD]
[TD]log y
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]log y
[/TD]
[TD]ln x
[/TD]
[TD]ln y
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]1882
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1882
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]0.055556
[/TD]
[TD]18
[/TD]
[TD]1900
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]18
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1.25527
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]1900
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]2.890372
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]0.03125
[/TD]
[TD]32
[/TD]
[TD]1914
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]32
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1.50515
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]1914
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]3.465736
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]0.023256
[/TD]
[TD]43
[/TD]
[TD]1925
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]43
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1.63347
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]1925
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]3.7612
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]0.052632
[/TD]
[TD]57
[/TD]
[TD]1939
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]57
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]1.75587
[/TD]
[TD]0.477712
[/TD]
[TD]1939
[/TD]
[TD]0.477712
[/TD]
[TD]4.043051
[/TD]
[TD]1.098612
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]0.090909
[/TD]
[TD]66
[/TD]
[TD]1948
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]66
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]1.81954
[/TD]
[TD]0.778151
[/TD]
[TD]1948
[/TD]
[TD]0.778151
[/TD]
[TD]4.189655
[/TD]
[TD]1.791759
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[TD]0.178082
[/TD]
[TD]73
[/TD]
[TD]1955
[/TD]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[TD]73
[/TD]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[TD]1.86332
[/TD]
[TD]1.113943
[/TD]
[TD]1955
[/TD]
[TD]1.113943
[/TD]
[TD]4.290459
[/TD]
[TD]2.564949
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20
[/TD]
[TD]0.227273
[/TD]
[TD]88
[/TD]
[TD]1970
[/TD]
[TD]20
[/TD]
[TD]88
[/TD]
[TD]20
[/TD]
[TD]1.94448
[/TD]
[TD]1.30103
[/TD]
[TD]1970
[/TD]
[TD]1.30103
[/TD]
[TD]4.477337
[/TD]
[TD]2.995732
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[TD]0.247312
[/TD]
[TD]93
[/TD]
[TD]1975
[/TD]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[TD]93
[/TD]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[TD]1.96848
[/TD]
[TD]1.361728
[/TD]
[TD]1975
[/TD]
[TD]1.361728
[/TD]
[TD]4.532599
[/TD]
[TD]3.135494
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25
[/TD]
[TD]0.255102
[/TD]
[TD]98
[/TD]
[TD]1980
[/TD]
[TD]25
[/TD]
[TD]98
[/TD]
[TD]25
[/TD]
[TD]1.99123
[/TD]
[TD]1.39794
[/TD]
[TD]1980
[/TD]
[TD]1.39794
[/TD]
[TD]4.584967
[/TD]
[TD]3.218876
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]27
[/TD]
[TD]0.262136
[/TD]
[TD]103
[/TD]
[TD]1985
[/TD]
[TD]27
[/TD]
[TD]103
[/TD]
[TD]27
[/TD]
[TD]2.01284
[/TD]
[TD]1.431364
[/TD]
[TD]1985
[/TD]
[TD]1.431364
[/TD]
[TD]4.634729
[/TD]
[TD]3.295837
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30
[/TD]
[TD]0.277778
[/TD]
[TD]108
[/TD]
[TD]1990
[/TD]
[TD]30
[/TD]
[TD]108
[/TD]
[TD]30
[/TD]
[TD]2.03342
[/TD]
[TD]1.477121
[/TD]
[TD]1990
[/TD]
[TD]1.477121
[/TD]
[TD]4.682131
[/TD]
[TD]3.401197
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]35
[/TD]
[TD]0.309735
[/TD]
[TD]113
[/TD]
[TD]1995
[/TD]
[TD]35
[/TD]
[TD]113
[/TD]
[TD]35
[/TD]
[TD]2.05308
[/TD]
[TD]1.544068
[/TD]
[TD]1995
[/TD]
[TD]1.544068
[/TD]
[TD]4.727388
[/TD]
[TD]3.555348
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]37
[/TD]
[TD]0.313559
[/TD]
[TD]118
[/TD]
[TD]2000
[/TD]
[TD]37
[/TD]
[TD]118
[/TD]
[TD]37
[/TD]
[TD]2.07188
[/TD]
[TD]1.568202
[/TD]
[TD]2000
[/TD]
[TD]1.568202
[/TD]
[TD]4.770685
[/TD]
[TD]3.610918
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]38
[/TD]
[TD]0.319328
[/TD]
[TD]119
[/TD]
[TD]2001
[/TD]
[TD]38
[/TD]
[TD]119
[/TD]
[TD]38
[/TD]
[TD]2.07555
[/TD]
[TD]1.579784
[/TD]
[TD]2001
[/TD]
[TD]1.579784
[/TD]
[TD]4.779123
[/TD]
[TD]3.637586
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]130
[/TD]
[TD]2012
[/TD]
[TD]93.5
[/TD]
[TD]130
[/TD]
[TD]93.5
[/TD]
[TD]2.11394
[/TD]
[TD]1.878637
[/TD]
[TD]2010
[/TD]
[TD]1.970812
[/TD]
[TD]4.867534
[/TD]
[TD]4.537961
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Prediction based on the graph – 93.5% of Jews in the world will end up in Israel by 2015. I wonder how true this will turn out to be……..
 
Ishmael said:
Prediction based on the graph – 93.5% of Jews in the world will end up in Israel by 2015. I wonder how true this will turn out to be……..
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Mkuu, the trend may not necessarily follow the Maths. You can see in this article another scenario unfolding;

Israelis Leave Their 'Promised Land' Forced Out By A Battered Economy And Years Of Violence

http://www.rense.com/general44/israww.htm
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Eiyer said:
Acha kubadili mada,hii mada sio ya kumhusu Yesu wala aina za lugha alizoongea wala Uungu wake,japokuwa nina majibu lukuki kuhusu haya madai yako hapa sio mahali pake

Stick to the mada please .....!!
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Aren't you arguing about the language Jesus spoke to aunthenticate the name YHWH and the name written on the Pentagram. Of course I did not deviate from the post I was rebuting you claim through differences of the Testaments. The four Gospels you refer to were not written and used during Jesus life time they came 2-4 Centuries after his death so the issue of Old and New Testament don't hold here.

[American Christian Evangelism is always going into metamorphosis to cater the rulling elite and the few powerful previledged aristocrats copying the same way the Roman Emperor Caeser Agustus did thus distorting the original Christianity].

After all there is a proven research that the original bible was written in the ancient Amaraic language not in Greek, not in Hebrew not any Latin languages. Not in Arabic and not in modern Amaraic.
 
Punjab Singh said:
World Jewish Population, 2013 | Berman Jewish DataBank - World Jewish Population, 2013 | Berman Jewish DataBank
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Mkuu Punjab Singh, shukran sana kwa hiyo link. Tatizo langu na hata ipo siku niliuliza mchangiaji mmoja humu JF kuwa kama population ya Jews ni kama alivyoripoti kwenye link uliyoitoa hapo juu;

Population Estimates:The world's Jewish population is estimated at 13,854,800 at the beginning of 2013 by Sergio DellaPergola. This was an increase of 101,500 (0.74%) over the 2012 estimate by the author (revised from the 2012 version published at the Berman Jewish DataBank). Since the world's total population increased by 1.16% in 2012, DellaPergola notes that world Jewry hence increased at less than two thirds of the general world population growth rate.
Please note that several definitions of persons counting as Jewish are discussed by the author, including expanded definitions and core definitions. Figure 3 (page 16 of the PDF) has an interesting and useful schematic summary of the definitional possibilities.
The core estimate for the United States is approximately 5,425,000, second to the Israel estimate of 6,014,300.
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Niliuliza kuwa kama AHADI ya Mwenyezi Mungu kuufanya UZAO wa ISAACK kuwa mchanga wa bahari ni takriban miaka 4000 sasa, na baada ya miaka yote hiyo 4000 hawa jamaa ni Milioni 13 tuuu, inatia mashaka sana ama kuhusu ukweli wa AHADI au walengwa (yaani UZAO wa Isaack) SIO hawa wanaoitwa JEWS leo.

Hakuna majibu stahiki niliyoyaona.

cc Ishmael, Mkuu wa chuo, Eiyer,
 
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Mkuu Eiyer, mbona naanza kuona kama vituko, yaani Jacob Babel and the gate of God found in Africa!? kulingana na title ya hiyo video...
 
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