Reasons why i Hate Jubilee

[Sammuel999]

Chill. Read and understand.
I said EVEN IF Jubilee delivered heaven, you would still have voted for Raila.
That's because your mind has been locked since 2013.

No....just go back to my posts last year i was Jap Damu....but Ruto became arrogant....And i want to know what happened at westgate eladde what happen to ouko and also who were the real thugs responsible for PEV 2007 which is in the TJRC report but Jubilee cannot commision it for some reason


I want Galana to be brought online


I want more money to come to Nakuru County government and less Power from central Govt


I want Turkana to get more money from its resourses so that we can end hunger...


I want Mau forest to be Replanted and illegal Rutos tribesmen be removed from there


I want waiguru to go on trial

I want To know where Eurobond went

I want KDF out of somalia and Migingo and Ethio kenya Border secure again

I want to see The UK/Australia type of government in Kenya where the party leader is officially the president where Kenyans can vote for the party and not individual people ......so that who ever happens to be party leaders becomes president so as to reduce this silly grip on power that is hurting Kenya....however much the party changes the party leader idc


I want Development in my home area not just in the other persons area


I want a leader who respects the comstitution amd not one who will praise it when it favours them and when not he do as he pleases btw ( why was KDF In tanks and APCs deployed at Rutos Sigoi Home-- je bypassed Parliamentary approval and he is still walking free- that amounts to breach of the highest law on the land)

I am not supporting Raila based on tribal vendeta rather his track record of tetearing my rights indirectly since 1978.....


Tom Mboya would be my preffered candidate but who killed tom mboya again???.....

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[MkamaP]

MK anapita kimia kimia. Alafu anakuja kusifia katiba ya Kenya. Nchi sio katiba bali misingi ya utawala bora. Haya yote yanatokea kutokana na utawala mbovu wa Jubilee.

Katiba under uncivilized people is nothing. Hata imeandikwa kabisa, usitupie lulu nguruwe maana wataikanyagakanyaga ni kurudi kukufanyia pia.

 

[kennedy0000]

So please do tell me what jubilee has done to personally make ur day to day life better ......

Apart from Huduma Centres which you all like using!!.....name them you personally not as a country


Usianze kuniambia expansion of ports do you export or import on a personal level? creation of electricity
.....smh!!....Raila has done plenty and I havent Agreed with you anywhere hapo i just was avoiding a long as reply...


Ngojeni 8th watoke ikulu ndio TJRC iwekwe Tuone nani atalala ndani

Miss use of government office

Literally riding in Presidential jets in Jubilee regalia to campaign in marsabit cos they are so sure they will win and nothing will happen ....we will sue them to poverty !!

I use many roads constructed and completed by Jubilee.
I use JKIA expanded by Jubilee.
I know of hospitals equipped by Jubilee. Hopefully I'll not need to use them.
As you mentioned, I've used Huduma a few times.
I recently registered for a business smoothly after the ancient requirements were removed.
I will be using the SGR soon.

Other people have benefited in many different other ways.

And I've got news for you. Uhuru is not going anywhere. I wish there was to place an online bet. Would have put in like 50k.

 

[MkamaP]

Hizo servers zenu walishachakachua tayari, baada ya kuchakachua ndo waka m-kill. Wasingekuwa wamechakachua wangemshikilia hata somalia. Done .

 

[Sammuel999]

geza kenya haitachomeka

Mtaangalia Election ziishe tupae angani


Hata Kenya vita ikianza nakaa hapa nipambane na nchi yangu


Kila nchi ambayo ni demokrasia ha kisasa imepitia taabu zake

USA had a 25yr Civil war
South and North Korea war
Colombia Narcos war and Farc Rebels
South Africa ANC struggles
East na west Germany
The IRA terrorist in UK in the 70s

So Kenya Iko transition ...hamtawai kuwa demokrasia ya maana tanzania bila kutokubaliana....hata ujichoche aje ....democracy is essentially that agreeing to disagree.....

Am better of in this middle income country than that LDC shithole down south...anyday any lifetime in any of the multiple imfinity universes that i may exist i will choose kenya!

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[kennedy0000]

So please do tell me what jubilee has done to personally make ur day to day life better ......

Apart from Huduma Centres which you all like using!!.....name them you personally not as a country


Usianze kuniambia expansion of ports do you export or import on a personal level? creation of electricity
.....smh!!....Raila has done plenty and I havent Agreed with you anywhere hapo i just was avoiding a long as reply...


Ngojeni 8th watoke ikulu ndio TJRC iwekwe Tuone nani atalala ndani

Miss use of government office

Literally riding in Presidential jets in Jubilee regalia to campaign in marsabit cos they are so sure they will win and nothing will happen ....we will sue them to poverty !!

I use many roads constructed and completed by Jubilee.
I use JKIA expanded by Jubilee.
I know of hospitals equipped by Jubilee. Hopefully I'll not need to use them.
As you mentioned, I've used Huduma a few times.

No....just go back to my posts last year i was Jap Damu....but Ruto became arrogant....And i want to know what happened at westgate eladde what happen to ouko and also who were the real thugs responsible for PEV 2007 which is in the TJRC report but Jubilee cannot commision it for some reason


I want Galana to be brought online


I want more money to come to Nakuru County government and less Power from central Govt


I want Turkana to get more money from its resourses so that we can end hunger...


I want Mau forest to be Replanted and illegal Rutos tribesmen be removed from there


I want waiguru to go on trial

I want To know where Eurobond went

I want KDF out of somalia and Migingo and Ethio kenya Border secure again

I want to see The UK/Australia type of government in Kenya where the party leader is officially the president where Kenyans can vote for the party and not individual people ......so that who ever happens to be party leaders becomes president so as to reduce this silly grip on power that is hurting Kenya....however much the party changes the party leader idc


I want Development in my home area not just in the other persons area


I want a leader who respects the comstitution amd not one who will praise it when it favours them and when not he do as he pleases btw ( why was KDF In tanks and APCs deployed at Rutos Sigoi Home-- je bypassed Parliamentary approval and he is still walking free- that amounts to breach of the highest law on the land)

I am not supporting Raila based on tribal vendeta rather his track record of tetearing my rights indirectly since 1978.....


Tom Mboya would be my preffered candidate but who killed tom mboya again???.....

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So you stopped supporting Jubilee because of arrogance? Wish Kalonzo and Raila's humility could have benefited Tseikuru and Kibera for the last 30 years.

I want Galana to be brought online - Pilot project revealed more water is needed. Dam construction now in progress.

I want more money to come to Nakuru County.. - GOK sends 30% to the counties. Up from the constitutional minimum of 15%. You want irrigation, better roads and at the same time more money to the counties. You can't have your cake and eat it. There are more important national government projects.

I want To know where Eurobond went - Raila says it never arrived. JP Morgan stated they sent it to CBK. Only Raila can tell us what he means.

I want Turkana to get more money from its resourses... Again, you can't have your cake and eat it. Turkana needs national government resources to sell their oil. I'm sure the % stated by Uhuru was after careful analysis and calculations.

I want KDF out of somalia - Stand alone KDF left Somalia years ago. We are now fighting as Amison together with other African countries.

I want to see The UK/Australia type of government - You should have said that during the referendum or the collection of public views. We want to grow the country. Not conduct elections or referendums every 2 years.

 

[Sammuel999]

Prices went up this years after the drought. Everything from maize, milk, potatoes, tomatoes, dhania, onions.
When the rains returned, potato prices for example have now reduced from like Sh4000 per sack to about Sh1200.

So, any objective person will not blame Jubilee. Especially not after a whole 4 years of stable prices.

Still, Jubilee has an irrigation plan with 50+ dams planned or under construction across the country. Raila has been opposing most of them.

Fyi
They Could have done alot that really mattered


SGR is Pointless big time...but National Pride makes you Blind

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[kennedy0000]

I want waiguru to go on trial

Best body for this is EACC.

Frankly, I also want Mudavadi in jail for Goldenberg and Cemetery land, Wetangula for Tokyo, Raila for Molasses, Triton and Kazi kwa Vijana, Kidero for Mumias and Nairobi robbery, Joho for drug dealing and forgery... etc.
The list is endless.

 

[Sammuel999]

I use many roads constructed and completed by Jubilee.
I use JKIA expanded by Jubilee.
I know of hospitals equipped by Jubilee. Hopefully I'll not need to use them.
As you mentioned, I've used Huduma a few times.


So you stopped supporting Jubilee because of arrogance? Wish Kalonzo and Raila's humility could have benefited Tseikuru and Kibera for the last 30 years.

I want Galana to be brought online - Pilot project revealed more water is needed. Dam construction now in progress.

I want more money to come to Nakuru County.. - GOK sends 30% to the counties. Up from the constitutional minimum of 15%. You want irrigation, better roads and at the same time more money to the counties. You can't have your cake and eat it. There are more important national government projects.

I want To know where Eurobond went - Raila says it never arrived. JP Morgan stated they sent it to CBK. Only Raila can tell us what he means.

I want Turkana to get more money from its resourses... Again, you can't have your cake and eat it. Turkana needs national government resources to sell their oil. I'm sure the % stated by Uhuru was after careful analysis and calculations.

I want KDF out of somalia - Stand alone KDF left Somalia years ago. We are now fighting as Amison together with other African countries.

I want to see The UK/Australia type of government - You should have said that during the referendum or the collection of public views. We want to grow the country. Not conduct elections or referendums every 2 years.

Lol Using Kibera everytime Raila is mentioned and You know very well an MP in the previous Constitution and this constitution cannot do anything to change Kibera is stupid when you fully know that Uhuru Kenyatta was president and Kibera still existed sma alipoingia kibera ilitoka kenya ikaenda nchi ya Raila?? What was Raila supposed to do?? Go to table a motiom in parliament for ultra modern housing for kiberans?? Oooh wait ....we have a slum upgarding project that started and ended with Raila as prime minister


That Kibera BS goes both ways Mr. Know-it-all Uhuru As president can do much to change Kibera than Raila as minister Forever

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[Sammuel999]

I use many roads constructed and completed by Jubilee.
I use JKIA expanded by Jubilee.
I know of hospitals equipped by Jubilee. Hopefully I'll not need to use them.
As you mentioned, I've used Huduma a few times.


So you stopped supporting Jubilee because of arrogance? Wish Kalonzo and Raila's humility could have benefited Tseikuru and Kibera for the last 30 years.

I want Galana to be brought online - Pilot project revealed more water is needed. Dam construction now in progress.

I want more money to come to Nakuru County.. - GOK sends 30% to the counties. Up from the constitutional minimum of 15%. You want irrigation, better roads and at the same time more money to the counties. You can't have your cake and eat it. There are more important national government projects.

I want To know where Eurobond went - Raila says it never arrived. JP Morgan stated they sent it to CBK. Only Raila can tell us what he means.

I want Turkana to get more money from its resourses... Again, you can't have your cake and eat it. Turkana needs national government resources to sell their oil. I'm sure the % stated by Uhuru was after careful analysis and calculations.

I want KDF out of somalia - Stand alone KDF left Somalia years ago. We are now fighting as Amison together with other African countries.

I want to see The UK/Australia type of government - You should have said that during the referendum or the collection of public views. We want to grow the country. Not conduct elections or referendums every 2 years.

Lol.......Stand alone KDF left Somalia ???

Wait .....why are Kenya army vehicles planes jets and ships in use in Somalia then???.....why not amisom UN regalia??

Why does the somali parliament want specifically KDF out of Somalia?????

Why does alshabaab specifically want KDF out of somalia


(I know they are the best in there but u never here alshabaab producing 3 hours documentary on how they took over UPDF and Burundian camps just KDF)

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[kennedy0000]

Fyi
They Could have done alot that really mattered


SGR is Pointless big time...but National Pride makes you Blind

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Galana irrigation has not gone anywhere. It was just delayed by findings in the pilot programme.

It took longer than expected to find the best maize variety for the conditions there. From what I understood, it was also found out that the heat caused too much 'evaporation', and hence more water was required.
A bigger dam was therefore found to be necessary.

This is a project with lots of science involved.
Science involves lots of data and experimentation.

I wish you could get the reasons behind, instead of jumping to conclusions.

 

[kennedy0000]

Lol.......Stand alone KDF left Somalia ???

Wait .....why are Kenya army vehicles planes jets and ships in use in Somalia then???.....why not amisom UN regalia??

Why does the somali parliament want specifically KDF out of Somalia?????

Why does alshabaab specifically want KDF out of somalia


(I know they are the best in there but u never here alshabaab producing 3 hours documentary on how they took over UPDF and Burundian camps just KDF)

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Please let's not argue about this. A little reading will do you good.
Amisom has units and it is not uncommon to find an Ethiopian unit or Kenya+Uganda unit or Burundi-Senegal unit.

Fact remains that KDF is not in Somalia as KDF but as Amisom.

 

[Sammuel999]

I use many roads constructed and completed by Jubilee.
I use JKIA expanded by Jubilee.
I know of hospitals equipped by Jubilee. Hopefully I'll not need to use them.
As you mentioned, I've used Huduma a few times.


So you stopped supporting Jubilee because of arrogance? Wish Kalonzo and Raila's humility could have benefited Tseikuru and Kibera for the last 30 years.

I want Galana to be brought online - Pilot project revealed more water is needed. Dam construction now in progress.

I want more money to come to Nakuru County.. - GOK sends 30% to the counties. Up from the constitutional minimum of 15%. You want irrigation, better roads and at the same time more money to the counties. You can't have your cake and eat it. There are more important national government projects.

I want To know where Eurobond went - Raila says it never arrived. JP Morgan stated they sent it to CBK. Only Raila can tell us what he means.

I want Turkana to get more money from its resourses... Again, you can't have your cake and eat it. Turkana needs national government resources to sell their oil. I'm sure the % stated by Uhuru was after careful analysis and calculations.

I want KDF out of somalia - Stand alone KDF left Somalia years ago. We are now fighting as Amison together with other African countries.

I want to see The UK/Australia type of government - You should have said that during the referendum or the collection of public views. We want to grow the country. Not conduct elections or referendums every 2 years.

That is the essense of democracy

What is relevant today may or may not be tommorow


Eti we should have said that during referendum....so if a national issue comes along we should have thought about it in 2006???

Kenya is Spending 25$ per voter this elections against Ghanas 0.7$
Or Rwandas 1$ or SA 2.45$


Technically we could ve doing as much as 30 referendums ( by this years election budget) every 5 years


Do you know what that will mean???

A developed Democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah!!!....but we are busy not trusting each other cause someone will steal elections to remain in power and use more money guarding one election instead of doing 30 refendums and elections every 5yrs

Secondly

Did Raila not submit a referendum proposal last year to the old IEBC and IEBC was against it before Raila even collected the signatures?





Lol eti we want to grow the country amd not hold a referendum every two years [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

do you know the meaning of a state/nation/ country?

Do you know tje meaning of democracy?? This half baked education we are receiving in kenya coupled with propaganda is on a mayhemic level now!!

A country is when a group of people who AGREE on a common objevtive come together to form one entiry and in the Process choose REPRESENTATIVES tp voice their opinions on each amd Every Single Issue affecting them.....Referendums are supposed to be on A DAILY BASIS were we a country of 50,000 people to get the entire populace opinion But we are 40mn .....When 1/2 the country is saying this and the rest is saying this referendums should come into place YOU GET?????? Not running police BATTLE ON IEBC HQ because they have refused to acknowledge The other half and Week in week out demonstrations

Secondly when You 25$ per voter on an election and become the 2nd most expensive on earth you dont have ground to say we dont need referendums every two year- we need them on a weekly basis

1.TJRC report implementation referendum
2.Constitutional changes referendum
3. County Budget allocation
4. KDF in Somalia Referendum
5. SGR or Galana Referendum
6. 8-4-4 or 2-7-3-2 referendum
7. And individual county issues


How many deaths can we avoid if we did that??

And in the process lift the countrys investor and political confidence???



Please dont kennedy0000
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[kennedy0000]

Lol Using Kibera everytime Raila is mentioned and You know very well an MP in the previous Constitution and this constitution cannot do anything to change Kibera is stupid when you fully know that Uhuru Kenyatta was president and Kibera still existed sma alipoingia kibera ilitoka kenya ikaenda nchi ya Raila?? What was Raila supposed to do?? Go to table a motiom in parliament for ultra modern housing for kiberans?? Oooh wait ....we have a slum upgarding project that started and ended with Raila as prime minister


That Kibera BS goes both ways Mr. Know-it-all Uhuru As president can do much to change Kibera than Raila as minister Forever

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Well, I'm hearing nothing but praises for the current Kibera MP Ken Okoth.
We were hearing nothing but praises for Raphael Tuju or Peter Kenneth when they were MPs. I wish I could hear something good Raila did in Kibera.

Uhuru sent a very strong delegation of Waiguru and co. For the first time Kibera was seeing decent toilets and clinics. Until one night the youths there burnt them down.

 

[Sammuel999]

Galana irrigation has not gone anywhere. It was just delayed by findings in the pilot programme.

It took longer than expected to find the best maize variety for the conditions there. From what I understood, it was also found out that the heat caused too much 'evaporation', and hence more water was required.
A bigger dam was therefore found to be necessary.

This is a project with lots of science involved.
Science involves lots of data and experimentation.

I wish you could get the reasons behind, instead of jumping to conclusions.

U literally dont see my point here do you???

Why postpone a project of such great importance ...last year 20 kenyans starved to death according to Red cross ....and go build a pointless Railway??? Eeh??? Its like u have all been brainwashed to a point of no return

The government is supposed to
Provide Cheap Food
Cheap clothing
Housing
Water and an Education to sll its citizens its literally in the constitution


The only thing all governments have been doing is education part


Go to SA, Morocco, Egypt, NewZealand, Australia, Hongkong,london see how governments are doing Social housing for its citizens in kenya its vice versa...we are supposed to build our own houses, schools coz govt is shit, water, hospitals-public
is shit

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[Sammuel999]

Well, I'm hearing nothing but praises for the current Kibera MP Ken Okoth.
We were hearing nothing but praises for Raphael Tuju or Peter Kenneth when they were MPs. I wish I could hear something good Raila did in Kibera.

Uhuru sent a very strong delegation of Waiguru and co. For the first time Kibera was seeing decent toilets and clinics. Until one night the youths there burnt them down.

Lol.....go read slum upgrading project in Kenya


Who tabled the motion in parliament for funding

Who launched it

And go see immediately Jubilee took power how money meant for slum upgrading was reduced by 70% and NYS funding was increased from 210mn$ a year to 950mn$ a year....how did it go with NYS AGAIN???
Oooh wait they are currently on strike cause there is no money


Only 31 housing units have gone up in Kibera since Raila left 1500units ....mehn...GTFO ....its like ur coded to hate Raila since birth!!


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[technically]

Numbers of Kenyan lost since 2013 Uhuruto waanze kuongoza Kenya....

The white house disappeared Man after election.

Will Kimani disappeared until today....

The death of Jacob Juma..

Kupotea kwa Mashahidi wa kesi ya Uhuru na Ruto kule ICC..

The death of lawyer (Mwendwa ) kama sikosei na wateja wake..

The death of Nkaiseri baada ya kushauri kuwa Raila akiuawa nchi itaingia kwenye machafuko.......

Masikini sasa watu wameingia mpaka jikoni kuanza kujipakulia baada ya jamaa kuwakatakia kuunganisha serves za chama na IEBC...
.

Kenya sio nchi salama tena......

 

[kennedy0000]

That is the essense of democracy

What is relevant today may or may not be tommorow


Eti we should have said that during referendum....so if a national issue comes along we should have thought about it in 2006???

Kenya is Spending 25$ per voter this elections against Ghanas 0.7$
Or Rwandas 1$ or SA 2.45$


Technically we could ve doing as much as 30 referendums ( by this years election budget) every 5 years


Do you know what that will mean???

A developed Democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah!!!....but we are busy not trusting each other cause someone will steal elections to remain in power and use more money guarding one election instead of doing 30 refendums and elections every 5yrs

Secondly

Did Raila not submit a referendum proposal last year to the old IEBC and IEBC was against it before Raila even collected the signatures?

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Kenya is spending so much on elections, mostly because of demands by Raila and the civil society. From biometrics, to tallying and transmission technology to legal fees etc.
I'm not saying its bad, but since they demanded for all these, we should not complain of the cost.

Raila collected funny looking signatures which were not even the required number.

Democracy is good. But at some point its good to accept that we have moved forward. This 'second revolution' they keep talking about happed years ago.
Kenya needs to spend money on the important issues, disease, illeteracy and poverty. Constant politics does not help the economy.

 

[MK254]

Kajikausha na mbwembwe zake kuwa Kenya ipo juu kidemokrasia. Cc MK254

Umeniquote ili nije kusema nini, binafsi huyu jamaa bwana Kuria hunikera sana, huropokwa ovyo bila kushirikisha akili, na hili ni jambo la kawaida pande zote mbili na watu wao wanaolipuka vijimaneno halafu viongozi wao yaani Uhuru na Raila wanapiga kimya bila kuwadhibiti.

Kifo cha huyu jamaa kimeniuma maana ni kijana Mkenya aliyekua anafanya kazi kwa bidii kwa ajili ya kuboresha nchi yetu. Sijajua sababu za kwanini wamvamie na kmwulia mbali tena kwa mateso, nchi hii ni yetu sote. Binafsi mimi ni mjasiria mali hivyo 'utulivu na amani' ni mtaji kwangu, hata leo hii ashinde Raila na kuwa rais wangu, nitampokea maana nia yangu ni tudumishe amani ili niendelee na bisahara zangu.

Nimepatwa na huzuni sana kuona tukielekea huku, demokrasia yetu ndio bora ukanda wote huu, hiyo sio siri, matukio kama haya nayachukulia kama ugaidi na sio sera za nchi.

 

[kennedy0000]

U literally dont see my point here do you???

Why postpone a project of such great importance ...last year 20 kenyans starved to death according to Red cross ....and go build a pointless Railway??? Eeh??? Its like u have all been brainwashed to a point of no return

The government is supposed to
Provide Cheap Food
Cheap clothing
Housing
Water and an Education to sll its citizens its literally in the constitution

You are also not getting the point. At no time has Galana been postponed.
Right now there are maize planted there.
The dam construction, I believe, is in the financing stage.
Galana timetable was only delayed. The wheel is still rolling.