Religion and Science hazishindani

Mokaze · Jan 30, 2021

Venus Star said:
Na siwezi kukulazimisha uelewe. Huenda ninaongea katika frequency ya juu sana kiasi kwamba huwezi kuelewa.

Ni kweli unaongea kwenye frequency ya juu sana kiasi kwamba ubongo wa mwenye akili kamwe hauwezi kupokea hizo frequency zako (figment of your own imagination).

Mfano Kwanini Bwana Yesu alisulubiwa?? Why was Jesus crucified?? after replying to the question, a coming Question could be; How was he crucified??. Sasa hapo unaona katika upande wa dini kuna "Why na How" katika jambo moja la kusulubiwa kwa Yesu, sasa utasemaje kwenye dini kuna Why pekee??

Katika Sayansi watu wameisha kupatia mifano ambapo "Why" na "How" are involved in a single event, eg Newton and gravitation.

Inaonekana Wewe unataka kutengeneza jambo lako maalumu (speciality of your own) na unataka watu wakatae the universal aacceptable speciality na washike hiyo yako,🤣.

Ndiyo maana nasema hiyo high frequency yako ni figment of your own imagination unayoipigia chapua (hyped) ili ikubalike kitu ambacho hakiwezekani.

Asante.

Venus Star · Jan 30, 2021

Mokaze said:
Ni kweli unaongea kwenye frequency ya juu sana kiasi kwamba ubongo wa mwenye akili kamwe hauwezi kupokea hizo frequency zako (figment of your own imagination).

Mfano Kwanini Bwana Yesu alisulubiwa?? Why was Jesus crucified?? after replying to the question, a coming Question could be; How was he crucified??. Sasa hapo unaona katika upande wa dini kuna "Why na How" katika jambo moja la kusulubiwa kwa Yesu, sasa utasemaje kwenye dini kuna Why pekee??

Katika Sayansi watu wameisha kupatia mifano ambapo "Why" na "How" are involved in a single event, eg Newton and gravitation.

Inaonekana Wewe unataka kutengeneza jambo lako maalumu (speciality of your own) na unataka watu wakatae the universal aacceptable speciality na washike hiyo yako,🤣.

Ndiyo maana nasema hiyo high frequency yako ni figment of your own imagination unayoipigia chapua (hyped) ili ikubalike kitu ambacho hakiwezekani.

Asante.

Good.
Ndio maana nimesema sikulazimishi kuelewa.
Japo sasa ninakutaka utoe mifano halisi kulingana na thread yangu.
Ninakili kusema kwamba hujaelewa context ya thread hii ndiyo maana hata nikikutaka ulete mifano halisi unaishia kuleta vitu vya ajabu.

Siwezi nikakuita mbumbumbu lakini ninachojaribu kusema ni kwamba leta mifano ya kisayansi kwa masuala ya kisayansi na leta mifano ya kidini kwa masuala ya kidini.

Mfano wako wa kuuliza kwanini yesu alisulubiwa msalabani!? Mwanasayansi yupi unaweza kumuuliza swali kama hilo!?
Sayansi deals with nature how works.
Ninakutaka uniletee mifano ya kujibu swali la WHY kupitia scientific processes.

Asante.

Kiranga · Jan 30, 2021

Venus Star said:
Rejea kwenye mada. Hapa tunaongelea HOW for science and WHY for religion.
Wewe unamaelezo gani Mzee!?

Upo sawa kweli kuanza kuniuliza issue zako personal!?

Mimi nimeanza kukuuliza issue zangu personal au wewe ndiye uliyeanza kuniita mimi kijana hapa?

Ushashau wewe nwenyewe umeniita kijana hapa?

Bloody moron. Bloody mindless sea urchin moron.

Hujajibu maswali yangu.

Thibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako.

Define what is science.

Define what is religion.

Venus Star · Jan 30, 2021

Kiranga said:
Mimi nimeanza kukuuliza issue zangu personal au wewe ndiye uliyeanza kuniita mimi kijana hapa?

Ushashau wewe nwenyewe umeniita kijana hapa?

Bloody moron. Bloody mindless sea urchin moron.

Hujajibu maswali yangu.

Thibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako.

Define what is science.

Define what is religion.

Nenda kwenye mada mzee.
Tunaongelea Religion vs Science.
Usilete confusion hapa. Huo ni utoto na ujinga.
Tunaongelea jambo la religion vs science wewe unataka nithibitishe kuwa wewe ni kijana wangu!!

Back to topic:
Wewe kama unamaelezo yanaoendana na definition weka hiyo definition na maelezo yake.

We are not in interrogation session mzee. Hii ni free social media. Kama unamawazo yako yaweke wengine tutayapima na wewe utayatetea.

Basi nakusihi rejea kwenye mada achana na primitive ideas.

Asante.

Kiranga · Jan 30, 2021

Venus Star said:
Nenda kwenye mada mzee.
Tunaongelea Religion vs Science.
Usilete confusion hapa. Huo ni utoto na ujinga.
Tunaongelea jambo la religion vs science wewe unataka nithibitishe kuwa wewe ni kijana wangu!!

Back to topic:
Wewe kama unamaelezo yanaoendana na definition weka hiyo definition na maelezo yake.

We are not in interrogation session mzee. Hii ni free social media. Kama unamawazo yako yaweke wengine tutayapima na wewe utayatetea.

Basi nakusihi rejea kwenye mada achana na primitive ideas.

Asante.

Thibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako.

Define what is science.

Define what is religion.

Kama hujaweza hata ku define terms unazoongelea, hujui mjadala ni nini.

Kama huwezi kuthibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako, huna credibility. Unabwabwaja tu.

Venus Star · Jan 30, 2021

Kiranga said:
Thibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako.

Define what is science.

Define what is religion.

Kama hujaweza hata ku define terms unazoongelea, hujui mjadala ni nini.

Kama huwezi kuthibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako, huna credibility. Unabwabwaja tu.

Kiranga acha kuropoka.
Rejea kwenye mada. Hatuwezi kuanza kujadili vitu vilivyo nje ya mada.

Tunaongelea HOW for science and WHY for religion.

Kama umeshindwa kutoa definition na kunitaka mimi nikuletee ni kukosa kujiamini.
Kama umeshindwa basi sepa.

Huna mamlaka ya kuniamulia chochote cha kufanya. Ni akili za kijima na kikoloni.
Hahahahahaha!!!

Kiranga · Jan 30, 2021

Venus Star said:
Kiranga acha kuropoka.
Rejea kwenye mada. Hatuwezi kuanza kujadili vitu vilivyo nje ya mada.

Tunaongelea HOW for science and WHY for religion.

Kama umeshindwa kutoa definition na kunitaka mimi nikuletee ni kukosa kujiamini.
Kama umeshindwa basi sepa.

Huna mamlaka ya kuniamulia chochote cha kufanya. Ni akili za kijima na kikoloni.
Hahahahahaha!!!

Thibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako.

Define what is science.

Define what is religion.

Kama hujaweza hata ku define terms unazoongelea, hujui mjadala ni nini.

Kama huwezi kuthibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako, huna credibility. Unabwabwaja tu.

Venus Star · Jan 30, 2021

Kiranga said:
Thibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako.

Define what is science.

Define what is religion.

Kama hujaweza hata ku define terms unazoongelea, hujui mjadala ni nini.

Kama huwezi kuthibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako, huna credibility. Unabwabwaja tu.

Kiranga acha kuropoka.
Rejea kwenye mada. Hatuwezi kuanza kujadili vitu vilivyo nje ya mada.

Tunaongelea HOW for science and WHY for religion.

Kama umeshindwa kutoa definition na kunitaka mimi nikuletee ni kukosa kujiamini.
Kama umeshindwa basi sepa.

Huna mamlaka ya kuniamulia chochote cha kufanya. Ni akili za kijima na kikoloni.
Hahahahahaha!!!

Yoda · Jan 30, 2021

Sio kweli,science haiwezi kukubali mwezi ulipasuka vipande viwili halafu ukajirudia

Mike_ said:
Dini na sayansi ni vitu ambavyo vinawezakwenda pamoja vizuri tu.

MUNGU alimuumba mwanadamu akampa ROHO, NAFSI , MWILI

ROHO asili yake ni Mungu ndio inayo mdrive mwanadamu kuamini kuwa there is someone greater than him, Ni part ya mwanadamu inayomfanya mwanadamu kutafuta.

NAFSI inahusika na intelligence pamoja na reasoning, SCIENCE NI MATOKEO YA KAZI ZA NAFSI kuwaza, kufikiri ,kuvumbua na kutafiti,
Sometimes NAFSI ikishiba sana maarifa hupenda kufanya reasoning ya vitu ambavyo viko juu ya uwezo wake ambavyo hufanya akili kuishia kuchanganikiwa zaid kwa sababu maarifa ya binadamu ni limited kwa baadhi ya vitu.

Mambo kama ORIGIN OF LIFE , UWEPO WA AFTERLIFE,na KIPI KINAFANYA MWANADAMU AWE NA THAMANI YA KIPEKEE KULIKO VIUMBE VINGINE.

Kiranga · Jan 30, 2021

Venus Star said:
Kiranga acha kuropoka.
Rejea kwenye mada. Hatuwezi kuanza kujadili vitu vilivyo nje ya mada.

Tunaongelea HOW for science and WHY for religion.

Kama umeshindwa kutoa definition na kunitaka mimi nikuletee ni kukosa kujiamini.
Kama umeshindwa basi sepa.

Huna mamlaka ya kuniamulia chochote cha kufanya. Ni akili za kijima na kikoloni.
Hahahahahaha!!!

Thibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako.

Define what is science.

Define what is religion.

Kama hujaweza hata ku define terms unazoongelea, hujui mjadala ni nini.

Kama huwezi kuthibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako, huna credibility. Unabwabwaja tu.

Venus Star · Jan 30, 2021

Kiranga said:
Thibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako.

Define what is science.

Define what is religion.

Kama hujaweza hata ku define terms unazoongelea, hujui mjadala ni nini.

Kama huwezi kuthibitisha mimi ni kijana kwako, huna credibility. Unabwabwaja tu.

Kiranga acha kuropoka.
Rejea kwenye mada. Hatuwezi kuanza kujadili vitu vilivyo nje ya mada.

Tunaongelea HOW for science and WHY for religion.

Kama umeshindwa kutoa definition na kunitaka mimi nikuletee ni kukosa kujiamini.
Kama umeshindwa basi sepa.

Huna mamlaka ya kuniamulia chochote cha kufanya. Ni akili za kijima na kikoloni.
Hahahahahaha!!!

zed B · Feb 1, 2021

Yoda said:
Sio kweli,science haiwezi kukubali mwezi ulipasuka vipande viwili halafu ukajirudia

Mbn nasikia Kuna ufa mkuu

Nundu_Tanzania · Feb 1, 2021

Venus Star said:
Unaweza ukawa na faith na daktari, baba, mke wako, elimu, Mungu nk.

Hapa umepotosha. Labda kwa sababu ya lugha. Neno faith si sawa na neno belief. Hivyo neno faith linahusiana na Mungu kinyume chake ni upotofu.

safuher · Feb 1, 2021

Scars said:
"hearsay"

Mkuu hili neno lina maana gani

safuher · Feb 1, 2021

Venus Star said:
wanaosema kuwa jua linazama kwenye tope.

Duuh waumini gani hao aisee

Aelknes · Feb 1, 2021

Hivi hakuna mjadala bila kejeli na dharau...😬😬

Scars · Feb 1, 2021

safuher said:
Mkuu hili neno lina maana gani

Ni maneno yanayotoka kwenye vyanzo ambavyo sio vya uhakika na hayathibitishiki kua ni ya kweli kama rumors au mtu fulani aliambiwa na fulani kua fulani alifanya jambo fulani

maxime · Feb 1, 2021

Yaani utuambie mtu anazaliwa na mwanamke mwenye bikra alafu isipingane na sayansi?

maxime · Feb 1, 2021

Venus Star said:
Duh!!!
Ngoja basi twende details katika swala hili.

Vivyo hivyo kwenye sayansi kuna mambo mengi tu yamewekwa na hutakiwi kuhoji.
Kwa mfano tukianza na atomic structure, hakuna proof yoyote inayotueleza kuwa Atom ipo kama tulivyo karirishwa.

Big bang theory vivyo hivyo ni maelezo tu yasiyo na proof yoyote maana unaletewa taarifa za miaka billions.
Kuna mambo mengi tu ambayo sayansi inafanya mambo yale yale kama ya dini.
At the end of days sayansi itapitia katika scientific research na kuweka conclusion kujibu swali la How.

Sio kweli kwenye sayansi kuna mambo hayatakiwi kupingwa.... bali unatakiwa kupinga ukiwa na data. No data no right to speak... kaa kimya kama hauna cha kuongea. Sayansi imeweka misingi ya kuendea jambo "hypothesis".. actually unapata umaarufu kwenye sayansi kwa kumpinga tafiti ya mwengine with facts.

maxime · Feb 1, 2021

Venus Star said:
Tatizo lako unakikbilia kwenye maswali ya darasani.
Mimi nimekueleza kuwa lengo la sayansi ni kujibu maswali How.
Twende taratibu tu utaelewa tu.
Tuanze na Newton. Tungeweka namna ya maswali yote yanavyo ulizwa
What, where, who, which, when, why, how yote hayo. Lakini ninachoongelea hapa sayansi yenyewe imejikita katika kujibu swali lipi.

Scientific research from observation, hypothesis, experiment, conclusion and Generate theory lengo lake ni kujibu swali la how. Ndiyo maana scientific research zina involve experiment.

Sijui umenielewa hapo!?

Pill: Tunakuja kwenye theory ya Big bang. Ndio maana nikakuambia ni hivyo hivyo tu sawa na dini. Wapo wanakashifu dini nyingine lakini upande mwingine unatoa maelezo kuthibitisha.

Ukiwafuatilia waumini wa Big Bang wanakupatia calculations na ndio maana kuna somo linaitwa cosmology msingi wake ni huo Big Bang.

Ninataka uniletee scientific research inayojibu swali la why.

Kubali kwanza kwenye sayansi kila kitu kinahojiwa. Maana umeanza kujipinga.

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